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Azaland:
What amazes me is that a lot of people are so interested in these JW people. There must be something special about them.
I wish to find out. I'll do my research.
I wish Christendom all the best.
Who are they?

Jesus said for being peaceable and friendly his disciples will be the talk of the whole world {Matthew 5:14-16} yet they will be hated for his sake {Matthew 24:9} because they will always stick to what he taught them! John 15:19

So even though they're relatively small in number across the globe they're a formidable force that all people must reckon with!

Courz:
So, you like Sisters in trousers to your Kingdom halls, assembly and Field service? Do you like to greet Disfellowshipped people too?

Have JWs ever sent anyone out of the Kingdom Hall whether they're disfellowshiped or female wearing trousers?

TrumpBiden:
A cultist with zero self awareness is talking 😂😂😂
The irony.
I don't take rapists like you serious

OK why can't you think of something else apart from JWs?
Are you sure you're not trapped in your thoughts about this organization? Matthew 5:14-16

oroje1:
now let's be logical, how's that a lie? If you left a company 10 years ago and thereafter you're taken back on that company, would you still be in touch with the current running of that company,,?, just reason about that and conclude for yourself if what you're saying about them here is correct

They can't breathe without tapping from what JWs are doing but i don't know why people aren't pirying them because if any normal people leaves a religion the next thing is to get a better one and forget about the past but this people keeps dwelling on the past instead of moving forward!

Courz:
Eyah. You're angry with the Governing body, aren't you? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ọmọ i've told you and i will still tell you always that they are the representatives of my own God so whatever they say is final!

Courz:
How do you feel now that you Jehovah's Witnesses are no longer different? You are now with Christendom. How do you feel now that Watchtower is showing so much love for Money that they can compromise and change their rules? Why are they afraid of Satan's world? No backing from Jehovah?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Can you think without JWs? Matthew 5:14-16

babasolution:
What bad in IFA n Sango worship

What did those religions say about the afterlife?

Courz:
I told you and your fellow JW miscreants that more changes are coming. Watchtower will do what Apostates want. They have no choice else They will crumble. Look at them rebranding themselves to look like the people you call Christendom or faithless.
Say the Truth, do you like the new Changes? Are you prepared for more serious ones that are coming?

Can you think something else apart from JWs? Matthew 5:14-16

TrumpBiden:
🤡 😂😂😂😂

What a piece of shit!!!!

No let am pain you say you have to think about JWs day and night na Jesus make am so! Matthew 5:14-16

TrumpBiden:
The clown has absolutely nothing to say 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You can clearly see he's realized just how foolish he is

Bugaa wọn!

Courz:
How market for your Governing body? See them begging people to come back to your Cult. Even doing the bidding of Apostates just so that they can get members. What's happening? Something is wrong isn't It? Do you like Sisters wearing trousers to your Kingdom hall, assembly and Field service?

What does our sisters in India where before?

Courz:
Are you angry over the Governing body update? How do you feel that Governing body are listening to Apostates and making changes accordingly?

How market?

Courz:
Mad MaxinDhouse, you are mute. You have nothing to say.

Your Governing body said your Sisters can now wear trousers to Kingdom hall and other changes they made. Do you like the changes? It appears a lot of you JWs are very angry. Take It easy okay. More changes are coming o.

How market?

Deadi Bodi get accident yeepa!
Confusion breaki bonu yeepa!

Business gone wrong, OP wants to attack JWs but now what is happening?

Bugaa wọn #

cocoduck:
I would like to call you stupid, but i will let that fly. I won't reply you, because it is either you are stupid or you are just pretending to be.

Our circuit assembly is ongoing and many are getting baptized each day of the assembly so leave whoever is not ready to listen at least if they know a better performing organization that's practicing Christianity they only need to present it that's all!

Westerhoffe:
Deuteronomy 21 (KJV)
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¹⁵ If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
¹⁶ Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:
¹⁷ But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.

Guy if you're interested in polygamy it's OK go ahead but remember there's no Bible law that prohibit women from marrying more than one husband!

Veecruz:
In other words, you would never expose.your mother even after seeing all the bones of dead people in her wardrobe and you see her chopping another one, because she is your mother, right?

Are you saying everyone is a politician?
If some women are killers my own mom isn't that's why i'm chatting with you now otherwise she should have killed me!

Veecruz:
So if your father was a politician you would not see nor talk about the evils politicians do and all politicians are good because your father is a politician right? See how unjust your judgment is.

So in other words your mom is also a killer since she's a woman, right?

Veecruz:
This is off point but i cant resist not answering it.

The question is "more what"! But was there any lawful thing that David had not already been given?

FOR LO, HE WAS A BUSH MAN, NOT EVEN A CITY BOY O, BUT A BUSH MAN WHO WAS GIVEN A WHOLE PRINCESS TO MARRY.

AND AFTER THAT HE LIKE NO 4. CONTENDER TO THE THRONE OF PRESIDENT.

FROM BUSH BOY TO PRINCE AND THE PRESIDENT CONTENDER.

IF YOU MARRY DJ CUPPY, OR NED NWOKO'S DAUGHTER, HAVE YOU NOT ALREADY HAD EVERYTHING?

Please, the argument is over and your thoughts on polygamy being allowed by God is destroyed. Stop being a devil and stop inviting people to sin.

Whatever you mean with this is your personal opinion!

MiddleDimension:
If his wife agrees, yes! Or have you forgotten that men are the ones who usually do not have any problem when it comes to their daughter's marriage?

OK o!

Veecruz:
O you are confessing that your mother kills children, because she is a woman because you could not answer a simple questiion.

This is the thread: https://www.nairaland.com/7998307/women-always-kill-potential-children

Check and read what the OP said about women even though he's a product of women!

Ask the true disciples of Christ: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

MiddleDimension:
@ bolded

I want you to provide evidence to SHOW THAT THE SO-CALLED SUFFERING ANY ONE IN THE BIBLE SUFFERED, IS DUE TO ''POLYGAMY''.

IT WILL BE A MASSIVE SHAME ON YOU IF YOU GO AND POINT AT THE COMMON ISSUES PEOPLE HAVE IN HOMES, POLYGAMY OR NOT AS PRESENT IT AS ISSUES WRONG WITH POLYGAMY!

At this point, I know you are going to say jealous, envy, hatred, etc, are all product of polygamy. Well, lets see if that is true and that you don't find it in dangerous levels in momogamy as well!

First of all, lets look at monogamies in the bible and see if these ''problems'' exist.

Adam and Eve

Adam and Eve was a mogamous marriage yet, we could find all the things you listed above in dangerously high levels!

Cain and Abel offered sacrifices to god and the bible says Cain became FURIOUS and SCOWLED in ANGER! (gen 4:5). His anger reached such a dangerous level that god had to warn him to be careful. God said: ''because you have done evil, SIN IS CROUCHING AT YOUR DOOR AND IT WANTS TO RULE YOU, BUT YOU MUST OVERCOME IT.''. Because the anger and jealousy was so great, he turned around and did the worst: KILL ABEL! That's case No1.

Case No2: Isaac and Rebecca

This is another monogamy, whose ONLY CHILDREN were TWINS, and as you will see, IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO CLOSE YOUR EYES, that there was a dangerous level of ENVY, HATRED, JEALOUSY, ATTEMPTED MURDER, CURSE, FAVOURITISM AND THEFT.

Even though Cain and Abel were twins, the bible says: Isaac prefered Essau while Rebecca prefered Jacob (Gen 25:28). That's favouritism which you think polygamy breeds! the favouritism was at such a dangerous level that when Isaac wanted to bless Essau, one of Rebecca's children, she plotted and STOLE the blessings for Jacob. When Essau heard it, he said: ''THIS IS THE SECOND TIME HE IS CHEATING ME'' (Gen 27:36). In vs 41, it says: Essau HATED Jacob and that he will KILL Jacob. In vs 44, Rebecca said to Jacob to stay with his uncle until his brother's ANGER had cooled down.

So, can we say these are due to monogamy?

Now, lets look at polygamy and see if there exists virtue and some of God's loftiests ideals.

Lamech (Gen 4: 18-22)

The bible says Lamech had two wives and he had three sons. The first one, Jabal, was the father of those who did agriculture. The second was the father of musicians, and the third one was the father of those who made crafts.

When the bible says ''they are they fathers of...'' it means they were so accomplished in their chosen careers that when you mention those careers, they are the first ones that will cone to mind. They became famous for these professions due to their hard work, dedication and delligence.

According to sociologists, there is a strong correlation between career success and a very well adjusted home.

Jacob's polygamous home

When the other brothers plotted to kill Joseph, Reuben, Jacob's first born who DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME MOTHER WITH JOSEPH BY THE WAY, planned to save him. Also, take note that his brothers hate him not because he had a different mother, but because ''joseph loved him more than the others''(Gen 37:4). Also, see that all his brothers who hated him, were also children of different mothers. They also loved Benjamin and protected him even though he was born of Rachel, Joseph's mother. Judah said he PLEDGED HIS LIFE FOR BENJAMIN (Gen 44:32).

After Joseph had been sold and Reuben.came back to the well and dis not find him, the bible said he TORE HIS CLOTHES IN SORROW! (Gen 37:29)

What about Gideon, who the bibke says.had many wives yet NOT A SINGLE EVIL WAS RECORDED TO HIS NAME INSTEAD, HE WAS MENTIONED IN HEBREWS 11 AS A MODEL OF FAITH TO THE BORN AGAIN.

I know you are shocked because you hope is, I will never find something like this from the bible!

You all are SERIOUSLY TO IGNORANT TO HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS ISSUE YET, YOU CONFIDENTLY STEP UP WHENEVER THIS DISCUSSION ARISES.

When God told Peter that he should not call unclean what to him is clean, He was rebuking you chriatians from having an opinion based on prejudice! (Acts 10: 15)

Peter did not know enough about what is clean or not clean in the sight of God. So, out of his partial or total ignorance, he called unclean what to god is holy. Just as you are sinfully calling polygamy unclean when to God it is Holy, admirable, blessed, functional, good and praise worthy.

Let me tell you the dangers of not knowing your God's stands on issues and then go on to have an false knowledge about it.

Because Peter thinks the gentiles are not of God because they have not carried out all the purifications prescribed in the law of moses, and because they are not 'decendants' of Abraham, is the reason why he pulled back from the them when he saw Paul and the jews coming in the way. (Gal 2:11-21) As a result of that move, he denied the gentile christians the benefit of his annointing which they would have got if he stayed with them! The bible says: ''People learn from one another, just as iron sharpens iron'' Proverbs 27:17.

Yes, God could still have got the same benefit to the people whether or not Peter choses that he be used as agent of God in the process, as his reach is not limited by soace or time. But why would god do things himself when he has an ambassador in you? The reason ge gas you there is that you might share in his work to save man.

So, Peter, in withdrawing from the gentiles for fear and ignorance of what God considers clean, committed a grave sin against the lord!

In the same way too, because you have chosen to not know the truth and mind of God concerning popygamy, you are committing a grave sin against the lord! Because it shapes your mind and attitutde in a negative way to that holy institution and those who come from it!

Don't worry there's nothing wrong with both whether polygamy or polyandry after all God never condemned any!

MiddleDimension:
My dear the scripture you quoted has got nothing to do with the topic at hand! You all should even listen to yourselves when you speak!

My dear, Polygamy is TRUE, RIGHTEOUS, CHASTE AND PRAISE WORTHY! YOU ALL THINK JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE IGNORANT OF A THING, THEN IT BECINES BAD! A THING IS NOT BAD BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE IT!
AND YES, THERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE VIRTEOUS, AND WILL ADVICE THEIR MOTHERS, SISTERS, OR FEMALE FRIENDS TO BECOME A SECOND WIFE!

Your daughter brought a young man to you so that you can assist him to become financially strong in order to take care of her and her children to be born so you did everything within your capability to assist the young man just because he's the one your daughter chooses to marry.

If the same man now your son in-law comes to you for advice on polygamy what will you tell him, to go ahead or discard the idea?

JobZoneNews:
Where did you read that he answered them with fire before then. He is lifeless. Baal has no life.

Of course Baal can answer them!

Remember that it was a challenge if the false prophets of Baal haven't performed such tricks before they wouldn't have accepted such a challenge.
The magicians in Egypt performed a number of signs until God stopped their demons from supporting them! Exodus 8:1-19

MrPresident1:
According to eleri jehofa, he isn't?

According to the Bible David is yet to qualified for everlasting life!

He must bow for Christ's counsel within the 1,000 year reign of Christ Jesus and accept the standard God set in the beginning not injustice that humans introduced along the way.

So he must learn to do away with swords {Matthew 26:52} with anger {Matthew 5:22} forgive and pray for his enemies {Luke 6:27-28} with polygamy {Matthew 19:4} failure to do all these he will return to hell because apart from Born Again disciples of Christ no one is qualified for everlasting life until the end of Christ's 1,000 years reign! Revelation 20:5

Whoever fail to master Christ's personality within the 1,000 years will perish no matter who he is for all have sinned and fallen short of God's glory! Romans 3:23

MrPresident1:
Genesis 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

A man can be one flesh with many women, but for the woman it is corruption; she gets corrupted, her field gets sown with different kinds of seed

2 Samuel 12:7-9
King James Version
7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;

8 And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.

This is David, the man after God's heart, God telling him he would have given him more women if he asked

You know nothing.

So David is qualified for everlasting life shey?

MrPresident1:
A stupid question. We are talking about the reign of the Branch; when he has destroyed all the evil ones from the earth and he has reordered everything as it should be.

The women will be fully independent and capable and they will not need any man to provide for them. But because it is not right that a full mature woman should not have a man in the kingdom, they will accept polygamy

Besides, the Law of the Lord will be in full force all over the earth, and all the shenanigans that make polygamy undesirable in this present time, all the shenanigans of Satan to destroy the home and the family, will finally be ended!

So the standard God set in the beginning:

One Adam and One Eve wasn't PERFECT as God declared shey? Genesis 1:31

Beautifulday:
Bro! You don wyne my brain with the second paragraph. I no understand am

After the confusion at the tower of Babel {Genesis 11:1-9} fallen angels came down to claim territories for themselves and they were influencing people against themselves to fight over the territories as worshipers of these fallen angels.
The true God was patient until they've all settled down that was when He called one of their worshipers named Abraham to introduce Himself and promised this man a lot. God didn't drag territories with the fallen angels but took Abraham to a place where there aren't inhabitants and asked him to settle there.
After the Israelites returned from Egypt they met people on the land God promised Abraham so they had to send them away or destroy them because they're all worshipers of fallen angels.
Before they settled on that land God told His people to provide a sacrifice for those demons to leave the territory! Leviticus 16:10

That's why none of those gods (demons) has any right to operate in the land of Canaan not until the Israelites themselves began inviting the demons back by worshiping them!

MrPresident1:
Lying criminal that you are. The verse is talking about the time of the Branch, when the Branch starts reigning. In that day, when Israel is redeemed from all her enemies, it will be an anathema for any woman not to have a man over her. So, the woman will be fully independent, yet because it is the law of the Lord, they will take and accept polygamy. There will be none of all these evils associated with modern day polygamy because the Branch is in charge of the whole earth, reigning from Jerusalem, and his word will be LAW.
Isaiah 4:1-2
King James Version
4 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
2 In that day shall the branch of the Lord be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.
Let's God's curses come upon the deceivers as soon as possible

Will you approve polygamy for your mom or daughter?

Ken4Christ:
Our Lord Jesus never gave explicit instructions that Christians should marry only one wife. The Apostles didn't either.

Jesus gave but you're not listening to the Holy Spirit!

If you know that polygamy is bad for your mom, sister or daughter then what do you have to say about this statement of Christ?

“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean." Matthew 7:12

Christ Jesus said:

"But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you. I leave you peace; I give you my peace. I do not give it to you the way that the world gives it. Do not let your hearts be troubled nor let them shrink out of fear" John 14:26-27

So how come you're not learning from the Holy Spirit that polygamy doesn't give peace in any home?
And why are you in support of what you will not want for your own mom, sister or daughter?

Veecruz:
They know! For when people want to sin then they start pretending and acting like they dont know The Truth!

Hmmmmmmmmmmm but i don't agree with you that all of them knows!

For because of not knowing the righteousness of God but seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God. Romans 10:3

The point of emphasis is they don't know the righteousness of God!