₦airaland Forum

AgirlsNightmAre:
I think you should do more Bible study and abandon circular reasoning
Avoid the trap of eisegesis

Bible study with who?
Jesus was called the founder of cultism in his time and he foretold that his true disciples will also be accused of cultism {Matthew 10:25} so tell me how Jesus' disciples can prove that they're not cultists before those who don't want them to say anything about their leader who was accused as founder of cultism! Act 4:18; 5:28

Perhaps you don't know me, i am Maximus if you left JWs for no recognizable group i'm not accusing you but i left Islam for JWs and i can tell you a thousand and one reason why JWs is the one and only group worshiping the true God!

oteneaaron:
STOP LYING.
If you are bold enough and sure that nothing will happen, let us know your real name and your congregation.
I will personally report you to the body of Elders in your congregation and your circuit overseer, showing them screenshots of your activities on Nairaland and links to the many debates you have done on Nairaland with Apostates.
You know very well that you will lose your ministerial servant position and if you're not careful, you will be disfellowshiped.
You are bringing reproach on Jehovah's Name.

Just beg me to stop tormenting you people because according to God's word JWs will condemn any tongue that rises against us in judgment! Isaiah 54:17

This is not an Apostate site, Apostates have their own sites where anyone who is interested can go there to pick whatever you like in there but Nairaland is for everyone so if they come lying against God's organization we will poke their lies!

Tell Rottennaija, RusselRutherfo, Acholardey, AgirlsNightmAre or any other to forward their questions RESPECTFULLY, ONE by ONE and let's see if they can establish anything against God's organization.
Paul said "against this organization there's no law" Galatians 5:22-23

Courz:
Look around you!! Your Cult is being exposed!!! You are not being disrespected for Christ because YOU JWs DON'T FOLLOW HIM!! YOU ARE BEING DISRESPECTED BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO RESPECT YOURSELF. The False picture of your Cult is now in the open!! You cannot hide your Dirts forever!! God and Jesus are working together to expose you all!!

Hen present a better performing group that that God and Jesus are working with nah!

Jesus said:
that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one. I in them and you in me —so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. John 17:21-23

Tell me the ORGANIZED people globally known as having the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} i present JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

So if different religions including atheists are speaking against us it's exactly what Jesus foretold!

AgirlsNightmAre:
Mind your words Jesus was no founder of cultism.
Don't insult the King, all things has been subjected under his feet including you, so next time don't frame him for something he was not guilty of.

It is enough for students to be like their teachers, and servants like their masters. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household! Matthew 10:25

Jesus was surely accuse of being the founder of CULTISM by those who don't believe him and that's exactly what most Jews still think about him till today!
So if you're accusing a religious group of being cultists then you have to think twice because Jesus said his true disciples will also be accused of being CULTISTS!

oteneaaron:
STOP LYING
Can you confidently show the Elders in your congregation all your comments, thread and debates with "Apostates" on Nairaland?
You know very well that you could get disfellowshiped for the things you do on Nairaland.
You have continuously kept bringing reproach on Jehovah's Name by arguing with "apostates" on Nairaland.

So you're shocked that you missed the import of what JWs believe, shey?
That's why you need to know exactly how we apply our rules instead of jumping in the wrong conclusion.
Nairaland doesn't belong to APOSTATES!

AgirlsNightmAre:
When I want to have a good laugh I just come to read your comments on Nairaland
You're good at circular reasoning, qouting people out of context and bringing up unrelated points to the discussion
You don't seize to amaze me
Are you not aware that the preaching you do contains several things that is different from the Good news Paul told Christian's to proclaim which was handed over by the Lord Jesus himself. At Galatians1:8 it reads: "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. "
Have seen how reckless it is to preach to someone something you can't prove from the scriptures as a main scriptural dogma or taking verse out of context to suit a particular doctrine?

Well if you ask me i will tell you that any religion apart from Jehovah's Witnesses are the ones Paul was referring to as accused.
So do you want us to make a research on the scriptures to know what exactly Jesus taught or you just concluded that JWs are the ones in the wrong?

Courz:
But you are depriving others from knowing the truth about your Cult! You are not addressing issues posed to you. You are denying the obvious errors in your doctrines and you are calling people who have found the truth about your Cult names! You have also been lying to people you preach to about what is really happening in your Cult, e. g the unpleasant and controversial doctrines, the strong amount of control the governing body has over your lives, the conditional fake Love amongst JWs, the real behaviour of JWs and NOT the false righteousness they put when they go about to preach, the child sexual abuse cases, the nefarious activities your Cult are involved in, etc. You are trying to hush these exposures but it is a good thing people already have their experiences with you JWs.

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, Jesus was accused of being the founder of cultism {Matthew 10:25} so if you accused a group then you must address their members respectfully not like criminals, remember AgirlsNightmAre told you that JWs are GOOD and LAW ABIDING people. So you don't have any moral right to disrespect them simply because of their Faith!

oteneaaron:
MaxInDHouse is not obeying the instructions of the Governing Body.

David Splane clearly warned JWs against arguing with "apostates" on any online forum or social media platform.

If MaxInDHouse was exposed in real life and the body of elders in his congregation see all of his comments and threads on Nairaland, I am 100% sure that any two of the following would happen -

1. He will be summoned to a judicial meeting and be warned to stop responding to people on Nairaland and be REPROVED

OR

2. He will be summoned to a judicial meeting and if he doesn't stop, but keeps on with his comments on Nairaland, he could get disfellowshiped.

MaxInDHouse cannot even obey a simple instruction from the Governing Body.

See the video below to see the instruction David Splane gave to MaxInDHouse and other JWs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Y2vxZjYBk

You missed the import my guy!

Nairaland doesn't belong to Apostates so if i'm chatting with people here it's those who want to talk about their experience in life and we can both share it. But Apostates have their own sites, that's where JWs mustn't go!

Maynman:
Obey them and make them happy. They are your masters from watchtower, talk more about them be proud of them.
Without them the ORGANIZATION won’t run smoothly.

You you know what you're sarcastically saying?

Well let me enlighten you!

You're indirectly judging yourself and all others speaking against this organization because this group are making the organization of people from different races live peacefully together as brothers and sisters throughout the world because they subject themselves to this governing body. But there's no nation, tribe, country or organization under this heavens that's running smoothly without people threatening or intimidating themselves with WEAPONS and armed security operatives.

So my friend you're indirectly echoing the words of Terrence Howard!

Courz:
If I am entitled to my personal opinion, why are you imposing your demon inspired expressions on others and you say if people don't accept them, they will be destroyed at Armaggedon?

This supposed to be a question but you're not asking RESPECTFULLY so let's go dancing!

Your PERSONAL opinion is to reject any teaching that you feel is demonic but you have no moral right to deprive others from listening if they choose to!

Maynman:
Hope you are obeying them? You know the consequence if you don’t right?

How do you obey the authority in your country?
You know the consequences if you don't, right?

Maynman:
Won’t you tell us about the governing members that makes the ORGANIZATION to run smoothly?

Please read AgirlsNightmAre's comments and SEE how EVIL this men could be! Matthew 10:25

AgirlsNightmAre:
I'm not talking about the preaching work, if its that one they do it well
You're diverting

2 - 0 against enemies of God's organization!

So the EVIL LEADERSHIP of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES organization successfully gathered people in millions throughout the earth and made them GOOD, LAW ABIDING, ZEALOUS preachers and INDUSTRIOUS TEACHERS of the word of their God.

That's really interesting.
Who will help me read Jesus' words aloud nah?

BY THEIR FRUITS YOU WILL KNOW THEM! Matthew 7:16-18

So the leadership of the organization is wrong from what you read in that book but they've successfully achieved those two things shey?

No wahala!

Courz:
MR INTELLIGENT OF THE STUPID!! Just accept that your IQ is way below the questions I asked and bow your head in shame as you FAILED to display COURAGE in answering the questions. You knew what you were about to type will be used against you and will rub your beloved Freemason Cult further in the mud!

You are entitled to your PERSONAL opinion my friend, if you won't RESPECTFULLY address me then keep whatever you think you know to yourself, i'll surely keep mine Sir!

oteneaaron:
COWARD.
Keep beating around the bush.
Simple question you no even get liver to answer.

I remember Cool and the gang!
Hoo la la la
Let's go dancing
Hoo la la la
Reggae dancing

Courz:
Nope. It has been established that you are a Coward and you have absolutely no conviction that you can answer those questions. The spirit of boldness your cult keeps yapping about in your books cannot be foumd in you. You will make a blunder! You dodge deep questions. And your IQ cannot handle them. That is what your conduct so far has shown. Nobody gives a shit about politely asking you questions because YOU ARE NOT POLITE. Don't expect Politeness when your track record in this forum shows the opposite. This is a lesson for you. Lesson they don't teach in Kingdom Hall.

AgirlsNightmAre has poked one of your bubbles of stupidity and proved that you're just arguing blindly!

But you're entitled to your opinion, it's a free world!

AgirlsNightmAre:
I don't have anything against JW's I'm just shocked that upon all the modern discoveries and the number of scholarly ones among the rank and files the still stick with a teaching that was and borrowed from the Adventists and derived by calculating a pyramid.
And Maximus I know you're trying to defend your religion, I always did the same but when the truth knocks hard on your face it's hard to let it go scott free.
I was embarrassed the day I read THE FINISHED MYSTERY.........................I no fit continue story for another day
Have a nice day man

So have you found a better performing group where you can join them to preach and teach to work for Jesus of Nazareth? Matthew 28:19-20

AgirlsNightmAre:
If you've read about RottenNaija's ordeal, something similar happened to me I reach the crossroads, I will say a crisis of conscience.
The JWs are good and law-abiding people but the leadership has continued to enforced man-made rules and promoting of mere speculations as a central doctrine coupled with a sugarcoating of their history and forcing scripture to fit organizational policy.

JWs are GOOD and LAW ABIDING people but they were people from different races throughout the world GATHERED under one umbrella by the same LEADERSHIP!

Oh how sweet is the word of Jesus Christ of Nazareth:

By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

So the EVIL LEADERSHIP successfully gathered millions of GOOD and LAW ABIDING people from different races throughout the world that's filled with EVILDOERS and CRIMINALS!


I will always sing Jehovah's praise with courage! James 2:18-26

AgirlsNightmAre, you're not far away from God's Kingdom, just humbly accept that you were too presumptuous!

Courz:
[s]Unnecessary story. Your diversion tactics won't work. Do the needful. I have quoted you again.
Why did your founder say he is more inspired than Jesus and that he should be followed and not Jesus?[/s]

Quote me RESPECTFULLY if you want to hear anything from me!

oteneaaron:
COWARD.
Answer the questions you were asked.
Show us how intelligent you are.

How many are you?
And on whose side are you?
Hope it's on the side of Jesus Christ of Nazareth?
If not then the "US" is a confusion!

Oh thank you Emusan!

Emusan:
Okay!



How does this relate to the meaning of exegesis you gave above?



What is the correlation between this statement and the meaning of exegesis you gave above?



So it's translation that is helping JWs to be a zealous preachers and industrious teachers

But yet both you and your organization still cherrypick from other translations



But your post never addressed the meaning of exegesis

Courz:
MR MAN!! ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!! What is this? Oteneaaron was patient enough to divide the questions for you. You say NO!! You are a Coward!! You don't trust your intellectual skills. You are about to commit a blunder!!

The problem with you guys is that you failed to grasp the meaning of my profile name:

"MaxInDHouse"
Well it simply means Maximus in the house!

Maximus was a fearless Roman soldier who can't be intimidated by the number of enemies approaching.
So all of you can continue agitating profusely while i keep playing around with your intelligence.
If you as in you Courts can't forward your own questions RESPECTFULLY then keep whatever you know to yourself while i keep mine to myself, or better still continue typing epistles upon epistles on what you think about Jehovah's Witnesses it's a free world!

So you have no business with what we're discussing here, it's like a Muslim trying to support one church against another church, the matter is none of his business!

oteneaaron:
Why are you asking a question to which you already know the answer?
JESUS the Christ of Nazareth never existed in actual history - you can go thru the previous thread where we had the debate to see the reasons why I say that.
He story is a MYTH and an ALLEGORY that describes the part to ascension that every human soul must eventually go thru.
And just like the MYTHS of many other similar "Christos" from antiquity that came before him, the ALLEGORY about the ancension of man is a common theme.
Why don't you answer the first question Courz asked you?
Question #1 for MaxInDHouse from Courz - -
Why did your founder say he is more inspired than Jesus and that he should be followed and not Jesus?

Courz:
But you partner with others who also are Not JWs as long as they are siding your arguments and going against my views like you did in the ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TIED TO FREEMASONS thread. So, why are you pointing fingers when four fingers are pointing right back at you? Are you scared of committing blasphemy that you don't want to answer the questions?

I will never ever side with anyone who debunk the existence of Jesus Christ of Nazareth!
Because that's the main reason why you're raising questions against jw.org.
Only JWs are PRACTICING what Jesus taught so there's no way i can side with anyone who debunk the existence of the major character of the Bible!

oteneaaron:
Lol
MaxInDHouse is such a coward right?

Do you believe in Jesus Christ of Nazareth?

I'm not talking to a mob.
I'm not Deborah Samuel.
So if you won't forward your question ONE by ONE then leave it, afterall i'm not the one hungry to know about your beliefs it's you who is hungry for mine!

Courz:
oteneaaron, I talk am! He won't answer. He is afraid! The spirit of boldness haff disappeared!!

Partnering with those who outrightly debunk the existence of your God just to spite another religionist!

Courz:
This quote in Bold makes me laugh so hard.

oteneaaron:
Instead of answering the questions he asked, you have started running around in circles.
But no problem, there is no need for any further back and forth.
I will help @Courz out.
Question #1 for MaxInDHouse - -
Why did your founder say he is more inspired than Jesus and that he should be followed and not Jesus?

Do you believe in Jesus Christ?
Well let those who claims they believe in Jesus ask their questions in CHRISTLIKE manner!

This is how right thinking individuals question the beliefs of others RESPECTFULLY and they are RESPECTFULLY answered!

Nicollas01:
Respectfully,Why do Jehovah’s Witnesses say there is no burning hell in the Bible, when there is a lake of fire in the scriptures . I'll be reading the comments

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for respectfully and politely asking this question, we know many like you must have observed how zealous and industrious we are in preaching and teaching about our God in your neighbourhood but keep wondering why our interpretation of the scripture totally negates what other religions believe.
This is the answer to your question!


In the beginning God never had any intention of making anyone to suffer, His plan was to see how humans with the intelligence He gave them could make the planet more beautiful than how it was when there are just a pair of humans. Genesis 1:26-28
But sadly the first human pair decided to become rebels so God punished them in line with what He has told them, it's either they obey His wise counsel and keep living or disobey and return to non-existence! Genesis 2:17; 3:19
This is why we are all growing old, getting sick and dying. Romans 3:23; 5:12
Some of the descendants of the first pair just happens to prove otherwise in their own ways so they makes God happy to have created them {Genesis 4:4} so there's a reward that awaits such ones in the future, they will be called back to life again when all evildoers are gone {Job 14:13-15 compare to Psalms 37:9-11; Proverbs 2:20-22} but people who don't care about God will be forgotten in their graves they will not be remembered! Psalms 9:17

So when Jesus of Nazareth came to this planet as the world's most wonderful counselor he taught so many things using idioms, symbolic terms and parables {Matthew 13:13,34} most times when he speaks about evildoers or unrepentant sinners Jesus always compare their condition after death to things thrown in garbage sites where fire is burning you and i know that whatever we throw into such place can't be retrieved {Matthew 10:28} that's what he meant by "LAKE of FIRE" it simply means the type of death where those who goes there can't come back, all Adam's descendants supposed to be remembered and called back to life because we're not the ones who stubbornly ate what will kill us so our punishment of death supposed to be a temporary one but most people choose to follow Adam's rebellious acts so their own death is permanent: THE SECOND DEATH! Revelations 20:15

Thanks once again, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Nicollas01:
Thank you

Courz:
Simple questions you cannot answer!! You are afraid! You are asking yourself, "what if I commit blunder? Who will bail me out? Why is Watchtower disgracing us like this. ahn ahn".
Little boy! Take each question and answer! You say NO! CHAI! This is shameful!

Simple instruction!
ONE by ONE!

lekanamisu:
He is the savior of the world
To the Islamist He is the Al Masiyu
A Nabiyi

I wonder why Arabs kept the highlighted in the language not understood by everyone!

Jesus is Al Masihu (Arabic) Messiah (Hebrew) Christ (Greek) Saviour (English) of the world!

Courz:
Oh. So you remember respect for someone's religion but you JW mindless minions have never shown respect for other people's beliefs. Including you. You boast about your religion being THE BEST. THE BETTER PERFORMING GROUP. Anyone not in your Cult will be destroyed!! Are you aware that message you spread is similar to the JOIN ISLAM OR DIE mantra that was propagated to spread Islam? How is this showing respect to other Christians? You say your teachings are right and no error can be found in them while the teachings of others are False. Is this respect to you? So why can't people point fingers at your religion, pick it apart and scrutinise your teachings same way You JWs pick the teachings of others apart? Your Watchtower Library has several criticisms of almost all religions in it. Why are you crying out that others are doing the same to you?
You should be ashamed of yourself for being afraid to answer simple questions posed to you! Are the questions hard? Do you understand English? If you are truly not a coward, answer those questions or better still KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT if you know your response will further expose the weaknesses of your doctrines and religion. Your fellow JW bro decided to take the shameless route and commit Blasphemy! If you know that is the same route you have in mind, SHUT UP YOUR MOUTH!!!

oteneaaron:
Fear Fear.
Why don't you pick each question and answer it ONE BY ONE?
Stop disguising.

Funny people!
You want to question your neighbour's choice of religion but you're not ready to do so politely, no wonder Muslims are killing you people like no man's business!

Ask your question ONE by ONE and i will attend to you, your grievances can't do anything!