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Kemical23:
Any Christian child we come across it one day, that on the last day everybody will rise up and face judgement both the dead and living...
Those preaching it today are just victim of brainwashing because that is the most useless thing any sensible person will believe...

The highlighted is another lie it's not everybody that will rise up o!🥱

Kemical23:
you see your life...

That is advanced knowledge not quiting like you who got stuck in false religion now thinking there is no true religion!🤣

Kemical23:
imagine going to hell with China, India,. Korea and japan with their billion population..
After the Christian hell then I will go to the Islam hell believe me hell is going to very enjoyable place...Very dumb belief...

That is where you failed woefully because the Hebrew translated Hell simply means Grave so all people good, bad, holy, unholy, righteous and unrighteous goes there because that's the last home for all mankind until God brings us back to life!

Kemical23:
lol

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Dtruthspeaker:
"A delusion is a fixed, unshakable belief that remains firmly held despite clear, contradictory evidence or logical proof to the contrary".

Who is the first sinner?

Adam!

Who knew God face to face yet rebelled against God?

Adam!

So where will Adam who brought all mankind into this situation be?

Heaven or your so called Hellfire?

That is what delusion is!🥱

Later some atheists will say these orientals don't believe in spirits!🥱

Who took your bread nah?🥱

Cry cry baby!😁

Courz:
All these long talk is nothing but Trash. Just admit it that your Governing body has proven the point of this thread to be nothing but facts! When we argued with you on Blood Transfusion, you were clearly against it. You kept mentioning Alternatives to Blood being better than Blood Transfusion. Now, your Governing body have realized that if they don't change this doctrine, Governments of different countries will come for them, close down the Cult, seize all their properties and assets and freeze their accounts. Your Governing body are in trouble. They know they have more to lose if they continue. So, they came and finally accepted Blood Transfusion. None of you JWS are talking about Alternatives to Blood now. With the way you JWs behave when these changes come, you are further destroying your image. Look at how you JWS are the laughing stock all over the world. Your Governing body are very confused people. Now, there is no difference between you JWs and other Churches. More changes are coming. The One True Religion title for you JWs is gone.

Kemical23:
I didn't offend you so why are begging...

You are offending yourself and your future!🙂

Dtruthspeaker:
Revelation 20:10 already told you the answer and no need flying Off Point. it is very clear that you are trying to force your wish to become a real eyeity. If na so street beggers for dey live for Lekki phase 1.

Ọmọ talk about your own God i'm talking about mine who hates to see people suffer {Genesis 6:5-6; Habakkuk 1:13} in fact He can't bare the sight that is why He is no longer seeing most things instead He designed few angels to go about taking note of the evil people are doing to themselves {Ezekiel 10:12} and reporting back to Him. Genesis 18:20-21

So i'm talking about my own God please talk about yours who is capable of roasting people alive in the fire. Jeremiah 7:31

Sand2022:
The whole religion is built around the Gov body, not Christ.

That is where you failed!

In the beginning Adam and Eve knew only one God before they were compelled to rebel against the one and only true God.
Later many people are calling on the name of that same God but deceitfully that is why God called Himself the God of Abraham so from that time God only recognizes anyone who associates with Abraham.

Does that make Abraham their God?

Later the same God transfered the same blessing to Isaac and to Jacob so whoever you are once you are against Isaac or Jacob know that you are against the only true God.

Does that makes Isaac and Jacob the God faithful people must worship?

Later God chose a nation which was formed by the twelve tribes of Jacob's sons so whoever you may be once you kick against the nation of Israel you have automatically made yourself an enemy of the true God.

Does that makes the nation of Israel the God of faithful people?

Later the nation splitted into two and God chose the southern two tribes called "Jews" so when you choose to stand against the Jews automatically you've made yourself an enemy of the one and only true God.

Does that makes the Jews God to faithful people?

Today God has chosen the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses that is why faithful people throughout the world assemble ourselves with them just as Jesus said that the wise people whose spiritual eyes are sharp like that of eagle will gather around the body of his anointed brothers who have deadened their bodies to the things of this world. Luke 17:37

That is why all other people are bitterly complaining about how their religious leaders keep on exploiting them for money and material things of the world but the Governing Body remains steadfast in dispensing spiritual food for the flock under their care. Matthew 24:45

So whatever you say makes no practical sense until you tell me why God has been fighting for certain people in the past when He is the Creator of all humans.

Today Jehovah is fighting for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses that is why you can never ever present a replacement nor a better performing group than those following them!🙂

Roycemadeit:
Acts 17:11 praises people who examined the Scriptures to determine whether what they were being taught was actually true.
1 Thessalonians 5:21 says, “Test everything; hold fast what is good.”

I love this!🙂
So can you now tell me what is the name of your own God and where you do worship?
The Beroeans believe in God and the scriptures that is why they focused on the fulfillment of what the scriptures says o!😁

And regarding Paul's letter to Thessalonians what form of worship is good to you o?😁

Roycemadeit:
And Proverbs 18:17 says the first person to present an argument can appear right until another person examines and questions it.
That's exactly what I'm doing. I'm not disputing that you have verses. I'm asking whether those verses actually say what you claim they say.

When you question the beliefs of someone or some people it simply means you have what is of greater value and benefits so can you present a better group than Jehovah's Witnesses?😁

Roycemadeit:
You say Isaiah 65:15 identifies Jehovah's Witnesses. I'm asking where it says that.

God says He will allow false religionists bear any name Satan used to mock His faithful people but He (God) will later call His own worshipers by another group name.
The name "CHRISTIANS" has been defamed by false religions claiming they believe in God but going about fighting and killings people during the dark ages something Jesus or his disciples never did. Is that not what most atheists like you often refer to when talking about Christians Crusaders?
So it's after Jehovah's Witnesses have gotten certain facts about God and Jesus that separated us from all other religions God gave us that group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15
You may choose to argue but all the religionist claiming Christians know that we are no part of them!😁

Roycemadeit:
You say Luke 22:36 means Scripture. I'm asking where Luke says that.

Now it's clear that you are just arguing blindly because initially what you asked is where God's word refers to scriptures as sword!😁

sonmvayina:
Spirits are body less and therefore brain less. They don't have brain like humans to decipher. They don't have any ego...

Ọmọ each body part of humans is the physical resemblance of the senses of spirit beings that's why God said "let us make man in our image" {Genesis 1:26} so don't think because they only have spirit bodies they can't think!😁

Dtruthspeaker:
Since you just confessed that they would be tored up forever, then it is clear that you are wishing.

Who will be tormented forever?

Is it people created by God and given the opportunity to live?

Who begged God to create them so that they must live by His rules or roasted forever?

What Jesus meant is not people being roasted forever rather we will continue to think about them as we see what happens to them just as we remember Noah's contemporaries drowning and the people of Sodom and Gomorrah burning but roasting people in fire is against God's will! Jeremiah 7:31

martinskelly:
it's really PATHETIC!.
This "kind" is going to lead "its
kind" to Generational hazard.

He wants to criticize faith simply because he has lost it but then he's going totally astray.

Just imagine if he actually means thieves are innocent because some carelessly display what they have then it makes rapists should be innocent because few ladies dresses indecently!

Kemical23:
are you this jobless? Do you know what is call common sense and humanity...

Ọmọ if you actually typed what i saw with your own hands please you've known everything even science in itself knows nothing beside you!

Kemical23:
If you phone miss now they will blame the innocent thief...
Go and work and stop expecting miracles up and down..

A thief INNOCENT?🤔
Walahi talahi atheism is a crime against common sense and humanity in general!😁

Dtruthspeaker:
The wicked will not go into oblivion until they have paid every farthing of torment they have given everyone to the last drop

Death is the wages of sin says God's word but life is the gift! Revelation 6:23
If people are to pay for their sins how many years are they to spend in your so called Hellfire to pay for sins they committed in less than 70 years of their lives?🤔

Dtruthspeaker:
God is to treat the wicked.

Wicked don't deserve life so He said they will return to dust {Genesis 3:19} today righteous people dying are temporarily in their graves but God will bring them back to life {Job 14:13-15} as for the wicked they don't deserve life so they are best to be used as manure in the dust of the earth! Psalms 9:17

Revelation is from Jesus {Revelation 1:1} our teacher who always use parables! Matthew 13:13

That is why many parts of the book of Revelation is written in parables. Fire means complete destruction not life for wicked people.

sonmvayina:
Because spirit have a brain to think shay?

Funny atheist!😁

So intelligent creatures don't have brains shey?

Is this what pastors in churches of Christendom has turned you to simply because you hate them?😁

sonmvayina:
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Have you not been following my point since for ever? Haba.....what goes you?
The stories don't make sense because the authors were not writing history. They are writing a story with a spiritual message. That is what you are supposed to take from it and live by. Not worship the characters. It is idolatry.

Go and tell others not me!😁

You are really funny!🥱

All these questions has been answered you just want to prove stubborn!😁

If the Bible mentions the name God's modern day worshipers will bear which of the group claiming Christians won't adopt the name?😁

God hid that name until 1931 so that after separating sheep-like ones among goats the group name was pronounced! Isaiah 65:15

And as for the sword it's clearly stated in the Bible book of Ephesians 6:17


Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. ‭Ephesians 6:17 NIV‬ Paul said the scriptures is sharper than physical swords {Hebrews 12:4} so when Jesus said his disciples should go for sword he was referring to spiritual sword that is able to reach into the hearts and divide people's thoughts not physical swords that can only hurt them in the flesh but can't change their minds!🙂

As for changes in doctrine that's the only evidence JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are truly working on the scriptures not just following a human as the founder of their group. Imagine if nothing changed in what Charles Taze Russell taught 100 years ago how can it be established that he is not the real founder of the one and only organization that keeps on improving day by day?

Well God's word says about Jehovah's Witnesses:


The path of the righteous is like the morning sun, shining ever brighter till the full light of day. ‭Proverbs 4:18 NIV‬

Who are the religionist whose path keeps getting brighter?

Ọmọ nah Jehovah's Witnesses who keeps on improving in what they are doing!🙂

Roycemadeit:
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Max, this isn't about who is smarter. It is about who can actually establish what they are claiming. So let's keep the questions simple:

1. Where does Isaiah 2:2-4 specifically identify Jehovah's Witnesses?

2. Where does Isaiah say Zion, Jerusalem and the mountain of Jehovah represent your 19th-century organization?

3. Where does the Bible say political neutrality and refusing weapons identifies one modern Christian organization?

4. Why does being peaceful prove divine appointment rather than simply prove that your members follow an interpretation?

5. Where does Luke 22:36 say the “sword” means Scripture?

6. Where does baptizō mean to vow?

7. If your organization has the correct understanding of God's will, why have its doctrines repeatedly changed, including expectations surrounding 1914, 1925 and 1975 and more recent changes concerning blood components?

8. Why present Putin's award to one Jehovah's Witness family as evidence of something unique to all JWs when other non-JW families received the same award?

9. And where is the actual source for the claim that Terrence Howard said there would be no murderers if everyone were Jehovah's Witnesses?

These are the questions. You haven't answered them. You've introduced other claims, changed the subject, quoted more verses, and questioned my intelligence.

And that is precisely why this isn't about who “outsmarted” whom.

If your position is true, establish it. Don't replace unanswered questions with more erroneous assertions and ignorance.

Roycemadeit:
Is someone saying that every other Christian denomination is violent? Your argument is that Jehovah's Witnesses are uniquely identifiable because their members have committed themselves never to take up weapons. But that still doesn't prove that Isaiah was predicting JW. It only shows that JW has interpreted those passages in a particular way and organized its members around that interpretation.

It's after studying the Bible that we knew God's will for mankind just as Isaiah predicted {Isaiah 2:2-4} of course any religion that members are into politics will surely end up using weapons to settle disparities among themselves that's what Jesus meant when he said his disciples are no part of the world's political struggles! John 17:14-16
So what made it possible for JWs to achieve this is being politically neutral which all other religions just can't do!🙂

Roycemadeit:
And there's an interesting point about your use of the word “vowed.” Jesus himself said, “Do not swear an oath at all” and James 5:12 gives essentially the same instruction. You said, "your members have made a solemn vow never to take up weapons," where does that particular organizational vow come from, and how is it different from the kind of oath Jesus told his followers not to make?

Do you know the meaning of the word BAPTIZE?
Well it simply means VOWING to live the rest of one's life in harmony with the teachings of Jesus {Act 2:38} what Jesus said is SWEARING because someone doesn't believe what you said not vowing to do God's will! Matthew 6:33

Roycemadeit:
The number of Buddhists on my street has nothing to do with whether Buddhism is a global religion. A religion's global reach is not measured by who happens to live next door to me. That is a rather impressive attempt to turn one's neighbourhood into a census of humanity.

If you say something is known everywhere but in your own street it's not even found please how is it known?

I can see that you are determined to overturn your former comment that i outsmart you in reasoning but no amount of denial can change that, JWs are the one and only Christian group so if you want to know the truth about what Christians should be doing now look at the JWs and stop deceiving yourself!🥱

sonmvayina:
Max, you said j.man rose with a spiritual body? And he ate with his apostles and got on a boat with them and Thomas put his hands in his side......
Have you ever seen a spirit before? Have you seen somebody's spirit level their body when they die?
Sometimes you just throw words around thinking nobody will notice.. I do pay attention to details.. nothing passes me by.

It's only the God of Israel that's sending His messengers (angels) to His worshipers as for any other spirit that's operating in any other part of the world such ones are DEMONS so don't mix things together.
Angels and demons are spirits the difference between the two is that while angels operates in accord with God's will demons does things that's pleasing only to themselves!🥱

sonmvayina:
So the person who wrote things fall apart lied about okonkwo? Or the person who wrote Cinderella lied about the witch?

Go and live your life by Okonkwo and Cinderella but since they are LIES i can't live my own life by those fables.🥱

Boye1int:
Do are they paying for pages that make it to front page, busy body....
If christians can preach their gospel then the awaken will also goes on....Though God name is popular commodity that everybody wants to get involved with...

False religion gave you people the chance to speak had it been true Christianity has always stood alone people like you will have nothing to say!🥱

lawani:
Buddhism does not claim to own absolute truth.

Exactly!

A Yorùbá adage says:

"Tí oògùn ẹni bá dá ni lójú o yẹ ká lè fi gbárí"

Loosely translated

"If you're certain of your charm you should be bold to use it anywhere"

So tell the atheist that Buddhism can't stand Christianity {John 14:6} when it comes guarantee!🥱

Roycemadeit:
Buddhism immediately qualifies as a global religion. Its influence is not confined to one geographic location,

How many Buddhists do you have in your own street?
At least Jehovah's Witnesses are known in your street, district, state and country and these are people who have vowed never to raise weapons against their neighbors just as the Bible God foretold.
That is the clear difference.
When talking about philosophy, education and the rest people from different continents have achieved that but for people in all the nations to vow never to raise weapons against their neighbors (something that surely will bring lasting solution to all our problems globally) no religion has ever achieved that.

So the influence of Buddhism is limited only to orientals!🥱

Dtruthspeaker:
Revelation 20:10/20:15/21:8 "casting into fire to be tore mented day and night" they would be alive in the fire !

The highlighted is what the Bible is against, life is God's gift {Romans 6:23} so if anyone doesn't deserve to live such a person returns to oblivion! John 3:16
The Bible book of Revelation is written in SYMBOLIC TERMS that the reader needs to find the meaning of those symbols.
Fire represents complete destruction life is a gift only for the righteous {Psalms 37:29} but as for the wicked they will no longer exist! Psalms 9:17; 37:9-11

Cry cry baby!🥱

He don dey pain am!🥱