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Roycemadeit:
Doctrinal unity? Many religious groups have their own unified doctrines.

Perhaps i need to school you on what doctrinal unity truly means!

It simply means there will be peace among them but today all these religions have weapon carriers among them which means they don't agree that's why they resort to violence using weapons to settle their disparities. Matthew 26:52🥱

MightySparrow:
But I have not seen your organization remove it from your New World Translation. Don't you believe the verses?

Go and make your research not just swallowing false doctrines.

There are many things added by the clergy claiming Jesus said so but if you're not really interested in the truth you won't know.

MightySparrow:
1. Yes Jesus is real to me and my own church.
How to identify the true disciples.
Very easy:
Mark 16:15-18
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
You fulfill all these, you are true disciples.

OK you're not a Bible student so never mind continue with your religion because the original writing of Mark ends at 16:8 real Bible students don't just swallow whatever we see rather we do verification. Act 17:11 compare to 1Thessalonians 5:21
If that's what Jesus truly said then how come no disciple even in Bible times could fulfilled those things?🥱

Why should you continue with a church where you are abused?

Find another church and continue with your God unless you are using such lies as cover for something else that you don't want to disclose. Nobody ties you down in any church just as no one ties you down in an abusive relationship/marriage.

So coming to social media to tell people a pastor abused you is useless it simply means you're having something secret behind that you don't want to disclose and the only way to punish him is by tarnishing his image/blackmailing him!🥱

Roycemadeit:
Combination of preaching!

Jesus sent his disciples to preach and teach globally! Matthew 28:19-20

Roycemadeit:
Doctrinal unity!

Jesus said his disciples will have the same line of thought regarding doctrine! John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10

Roycemadeit:
Political neutrality!

Jesus said his disciples won't be a part of world political struggles. John 17:14-16

Roycemadeit:
Refusal to participate in war!

Jesus said his disciples will be as wise as serpent and harmless as dove! Matthew 10:16 compare to Matthew 26:52

If all these points doesn't proves that God is behind a group then what exactly do you expect to see as evidence that an organized people are disciples of Jesus the man who taught all these things in the Bible?

For your information when Jesus said his disciples will serve as his witnesses globally {Act 1:8} it doesn't mean they will bear the group name CHRISTIANS rather he meant they will represent the core values of his teachings everywhere they are found.

Your blind arguments just proves what i said earlier:

You are now fighting tough to overturn what you once said that i silenced you with facts.

So my friend i understood you very very well!🙂

God wanted to bless mankind by using an organized people who will teach all of us about Him regarding these questions:

* How did life begin?

*Why are we here?

* Why do innocent people suffer?

* What happens when a person dies?

* If everyone wants peace, why is there so much war?

*What will happen to the earth in the future?

So God chose a nation called the Israelites but to jeopardize this wonderful plan a powerful spirit creature who has been judged and sentenced to death is using his remaining days to cause confusion, his intention is that if he doesn't live forever then no creature will live God should just continue to live alone but God foretold that both humans and angels who proved to be loyal will enjoy everlasting life this made Satan really angry so he is battling furiously to make sure that such a thing does not happen.

That is why we have thousands of different schools of thought all claiming they have knowledge about God.

So how do you distinguish between true and false religions?

Do you remember the six questions asked in the beginning of this post?

Well it's only the true religion that can adequately provide satisfying answers to all these questions and more that is why Satan is using false religions to create enmity for the one and only true religion! Matthew 24:9

Expanse2020:
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Should we be bringing the news from CNN, BBC out for you for your eyes to clear

So you believe CNN and BBC than finding the truth?
This means whatever they say about your religion and terrorism is true shey?🤔

sonmvayina:
The Ecclesiastes you quoted actually supports my point. Not yours.
The spirit returns to God because it is the same image and likeness as God. And the body as it returns to the ground.
So it has all the attributes you assign to God.

It simply means the breath of life {Genesis 2:7} not another form of you, that's why the Bible says all creatures have the same spirit because we all have the breath of life in us! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20😁

sonmvayina:
Satan's job is to tempt.

How do you think a loving God is the same person sending Satan to tempt His loyal servants and at the same time judging them for their failures?

How does that even make sense to you?😁

Expanse2020:
Your book
Wey your top leaders are raping minor up and down reported in the news.

Why do Muslims jump from pillar to post when discussing matters of serious concern?
You asked for the Bible that's the best i mentioned it then you are talking about lies spread by haters of God's organization!
OK how many of such cases have you found in your own locality?
Come on if you are not biased and just seeking ways to attack other people's faith you should be balanced with your inquiry. Everyone knows that all churches of Christendom hate Jehovah's Witnesses for the way we speak the truth so when you hear bad reports about a group you need to think of what enemies of such a group can do.
Such news only come from Western nations where parents are not allowed to discipline their children so whenever a child feels like getting his or her freedom from strick parents the next thing they do is report that his or her parents are abusive and the enemies of God's people will take it up from there.
Jehovah's Witnesses are in Arab countries where parents used to discipline their children using cane so you won't hear such from Arabic nations, Asia and Africa but in countries where the children are pampered to being spoilt that's where we such reports are coming from.
Next time you hear of such reports think like an adult not just swallowing false stories if you love you own life.
Remember we are not joking here rather we are all discussing about how to worship God acceptably but if you're just seeking support for your religion then you don't need the truth!

MightySparrow:
Yes, there is and I belong to it already.
1 Corinthians 12:27
Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

Here are the questions can you do well to answer?

MaxInDHouse:
Is Jesus real?
If Jesus is real can we find a gathering of his real disciples today?
How can we identify the gathering of Jesus' real disciples?
What should they be doing in our time?

Expanse2020:
Which one is correct OOO... Mormor own ba

Jesus said by their fruits. Matthew 7:16-18

According to God's word any of the translations that cannot be used to achieve what Isaiah 2:2-4 says is not a working transaction.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses translation is doing the work!

lawani:
DO YOU THREATEN LAW ABIDING UNBELIEVERS THAT THEY WILL CEASE TO EXIST IF THEY DONT BELIEVE?

Do you believe in life after death?
If not then how does having such belief and teaching others become a crime?

Expanse2020:
Is king James bible not the best Bible and among the contemporary writers 😂

If it is how come people using it are still hating, fighting and killing themselves?

What God promised is after we have come to understand His message people believing in Him will no longer learn war anymore {Isaiah 2:2-4} so that version is not doing what God's word promised therefore it's not even a correct translation!🤔

When you come to social media there's a lot of bashing here and there over the flaws of Churches claiming Christians so you you'll hear people saying things like:

"This church is fake, that church is a cult"

So the questions we need to ask ourselves is:

Is Jesus real?
If Jesus is real can we find a gathering of his real disciples today?
How can we identify the gathering of Jesus' real disciples?
What should they be doing in our time?

Though most religionists claiming Christians don't like to talk about these things but then if you are interested let's hear your views.🙂

What exactly should Christians be doing as the assignment Jesus gave them?

If you don't know the answer to the above question then you are not free from the delusion that's affecting others around you.

Imagine some twenty centuries ago a carpenter builds chairs, benches, tables, beds, roofing stands and all other things that's made of wood but after 2,000 years people claiming carpenter have nothing to do with wood works rather they are packing leaves in cartons claiming what they produce are the same as the works of carpenters back in twenty centuries ago.

Now if you knew what carpenters does would you agree these ones are truly carpenters?

Of course you won't but when you don't even know the works of real carpenters anything they present to you goes!🤔

In his illustration Jesus said:


“ ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied. “The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ “ ‘No,’ he answered,‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’ ” ‭Matthew 13:28-30 NIV‬

Instead of complaining about a fake currencies when thousands of it's kind are in circulation why not focus on the original money so you can help innocent people to identify it by its features?

Talk about the true Christian group and how Jesus said we will recognize them. That will make your effort count as honest hearted and sincere individuals will work on what you presented but going about talking about one fake pastor out of hundreds of thousands is a wasted effort because it won't yield any positive result rather you will continue to get backlash from their gullible followers who don't know what to search for in Christianity!🤔

lawani:
ISSUING THREATS OF ETERNAL DAMNATION OR DESTRUCTION AGAINST LAW ABIDING PEOPLE ISN'T COVERED BY FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Where are your ancestors?
Dead!
Do you have a hope of seeing them again?
No!
So how does the idea of seeing my loved ones again translate to threat?

The Bible God never promised to torment anyone after death what He promised is resurrection (bringing back to life) those who proved to be virtuous {Job 14:13-15} so they can live forever! Psalms 37:29

So open up that this truth is what you don't want to hear and of course nobody is forcing it on you that's where freedom of speech and expression comes to play.

It's like two politicians wanting to campaign and tell voters what they have in mind to do for their citizens then one is saying the other person shouldn't talk.
Why?
Because his campaign method is killing opponent's ambition!🤣

Boye1int:
though I don't like argument but trying to prove any point about Christianity is the must dumbest thing any living being will do because it's the most deceiving organization I have ever seen after Islam...

Exactly what anyone will say when you only know fake all your life without identifying the original. Real Christianity is not what you people know so i don't expect you to understand that it's the best thing that has ever happened to mankind!🙂

sonmvayina:
I don't understand, Have you not seen Tinubu rebuking the inspector general of police before, does it mean he is not a member of the government?
Don't superiors rebuke their subordinates? Does it means they don't work together..?

You only rebuke when someone did opposite of what he or she is asked to do but you said spirits are like robots doing only what God asked them to do.

So how come they are rebuked o!🤣

Roycemadeit:
Several different religious traditions have teachings against violence and have produced communities committed to peace. The existence of peaceful Jehovah's Witnesses is therefore evidence of what Jehovah's Witnesses practice, not automatically evidence of divine appointment.

There you go again deceiving yourself!🥱

If people who knows themselves in one community agreed how does that makes them peaceful?

It simply means they have a ruler who understands his people but when a group goes round the world to achieve that among people who are of different languages, culture, background, race and social status then it's no longer about a human ruler but God at work! Galatians 5:22-23

So stop deceiving yourself!🙂

sonmvayina:
Now we are getting somewhere.
That is why God put the spirit within the physical body so they can think. In Deuteronomy, he said, I place both good and evil, life and death in front of you...they have brain to think and choose, but spirit don't as soon as they step out of the body at death they forget their past life.theyare pure and like God.

There is no life after death what God promised is a resurrection {Job 14:13-15} so at death no life in form of spirit survives the body what God's word said is the ENERGY (BREATH) sustaining life not a form of life on its own. Ecclesiastes 12:7

So the breath in all creatures having physical bodies is the same! Ecclesiastes 3:19-20

Default mode again!

Courz:
How does it feel to keep seeing Apostates being right while your Confused Governing body being wrong over and over again? If some group of people have been preaching that path A is right to follow, people die in the process then they turn around and say path A is wrong but path B is the right way. Then they turn around again and said path B is wrong but path C is the right way, will a wise person depend on these group of people to show them directions? In real life, do wise people listen to such confused people?

Courz:
How does it feel to keep seeing Apostates being right while your Confused Governing body being wrong over and over again?

What is the name of your church Mr apostate so we can leave JWs and join you in worship? John 6:66-69🥱

Boye1int:
until you stop attacking kemical I don't care the amount of accounts you are using...

Nobody is attacking you you're the one giving yourself unnecessary headache over what you can't change!🥱

lawani:
If you are making spurious claims while insisting people have to believe to be saved then that can't be described as a promotion of peace. It is infact a recipe for war.

Now it's clear you don't know what you are saying!🥱

There is freedom of speech, expression and worship so whatever i say is not imposed on anyone it's when you are forcing your ideas on people using weapons to threaten them that could lead to violence but when you declare your beliefs just as you've been doing on this forum how does that translate to force?

Just say the points i'm making is disturbing you that's all!🙂

Boye1int:
imagine the amount of people you are deceiving...

Deceit should have negative effect on the victim nah!🥱

Boye1int:
Oga stop disturbing this beautiful thread because of your clueless religion, stop defending nonsense beside i never see any black Jesus anywhere if you have one post it here.

Time registered: September 22 2026!🤣

So you quickly registered another moniker to attack anyone trying to reason with you shey?

God will heal you o?🥱

Roycemadeit:
Jehovah's Witnesses are God's uniquely chosen organization. You made that claim, the evidence for it has to come from the evidence you present.

This is where you got things wrong again!

Of course when i present evidence but you want to disprove it then it means you need to present something that can stand at least beside what i presented nah!🙂

You can't say i'm wrong after giving you all reasonable points showing that this organization have gone round the world to gather people from all the nations and turned them to peace lovers something the world really need in our time as world leaders are building destructive devices worth billions of dollars whereas their citizens are dying of hunger.

So before you can sincerely say i'm wrong surely you have to present another group that has achieved something closer to that globally nah!🙂

Dtruthspeaker:
It is not what you say but what you prove/what is proven. And it is proven that God of the Bible is, you and i and everybody's God whether you like Him or not! Ok bye

Why not ask Him when he called Himself the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob?
Ọmọ it's not about creation but those doing His will!🥱

Dtruthspeaker:
Bye

I told you my own God differ from yours, bye!

Akir2025:
Now,Having known the Silly Mistake Adam made ,Why is it a Sin to Be Nude since that is the Creators Original Plan?

A Bible study will help you!

The Bible said he knew that he is naked not before his wife but to God who created him so what he is doing in essence is alienating himself from his Creator which worsen his case.

Originally Adam and Eve are couples so they don't need to put on clothes when only the both of them are in their garden but for him run into hiding after hearing God's voice it simply means he doesn't want God to interfere into his private life anymore!🤔