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FxMasterz:
If Jesus didn't believe they worship His God, He would not join them in their synagogues.

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. ‭John 8:44 NIV‬
Jesus in the above statement is talking to people who don't worship in the same temple shey?🤣

FxMasterz:
Lying, subtle abuse, false doctrines that have no scriptural roots, new lights that make previous lights into darkness, etc, are not the fruits of Christ's disciples.

FRUIT differ from understanding.

The apostles made errors in their understanding of scriptures and later corrected themselves yet they fulfilled what was prophesied regarding first century worshipers of God.

That is what Jesus meant by FRUIT!🙂

Jesus said:


People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. ‭Luke 21:26 NIV‬


But what should faithful servants of God be doing at that time?

Jesus answered:


When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.” ‭Luke 21:28 NIV‬

It's just painful that false religions have blinded many claiming Christians while they are still putting faith in human governments! 2Corinthians 4:4😟

Propaganda used to blindfold ignorant people in the dark ages!

The only place God promised mankind as permanent abode for the righteous is planet earth:

The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it. Psalms 37:29

“Happy are the mild-tempered, since they will inherit the earth" Matthew 5:5

What about the wicked?

God said:

The wicked will retreat toward the Grave, All the nations who forget God. Psalms 9:17

Death reigns due to inherited sin from Adam {Romans 5:12} so God promised to bring back his loyal servants {Job 14:13-15; John 5:28-29; Act 24:15} His loyal ones God declared RIGHTEOUS and individuals who lived by their God's given conscience God referred to as UNRIGHTEOUS. Both will regain life through the ransom sacrifice of Christ but individuals who deliberately chose to be evil and wicked God will forget them in their graves that is the meaning of second death because they are all useless regarding God's purpose including death and grave! Revelation 20:14-15

In all the nations there is one thing or another affecting their mentality that is why Jesus sent his disciples out to help honest hearted individuals in different nations throughout the world {Matthew 28:19-20} Jesus did not stop at that he goes further saying through the help of God's holy spirit his disciples will be found in all the nations of the earth {Act 1:8} there will be love that everyone can testify to among them {John 13:34-35} so that they will see one another as one family {Mark 10:28-30} just as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob promised to do in the end time! Isaiah 2:2-4

So nothing can solve the problem affecting the nations that is how it will continue until God comes to wipe away all opposers of God's kingdom:


The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small— and for destroying those who destroy the earth.” ‭Revelation 11:18 NIV‬


Different tribes are affected with the virus of hatred spread by Satan {Revelation 12:12} that is why anger is everywhere leading them to kill one another {Revelation 6:3-4} but God will give the order and Jesus with his angels will kill all opposers of peace on planet earth! Luke 19:27

Where most people failed woefully in their study of the Bible is picking words above deeds of a religion.

There is nowhere in the Bible that Jesus speaks against the TEACHING of any religion as heresy because all of them are interested in understanding what was written so interpretation is bound to be different but what Jesus taught us to focus on is the outcome of such interpretation or teaching. Matthew 7:15-20

So according to Jesus Christ how can we know the religion that's teaching HERESY?
Is it by their TEACHINGS?
Of course not! Rather it's by what they are producing with their teachings.

Jesus is the archangel Michael according to some religions claiming Christians but then no verse in the Bible explicitly says that just as no verse in the Old testament explicitly say the name of the prophet who will prepare the way for the Christ is "John" neither is there any verse in the Old testament that explicitly say the name of the Christ will be "Jesus" therefore whoever says John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth were fake prophets in the first century surely has a point. But such arguments are like a cause for stumbling! Luke 7:23
So why do faithful Jews in the first century believe that John the baptist is the foretold Elijah and that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ?
They studied the scriptures and compare what is happening to the claim made by Jesus of Nazareth!
This young man said John the baptist is the foretold Elijah {Matthew 11:14-15} whereas John himself denied being the promised Elijah! John 1:21😟
All the things written in the scriptures that the coming Elijah would do it what John the baptist fulfilled without living any so those listening to Jesus believed through what happened not waiting to see it written explicitly in the Bible!🙂

According To Daniel Michael will rise in the endtime as a means of salvation for all faithful servants of God {Daniel 12:1} resurrection will take place due to his activities {Daniel 12:2} many will find his activities confusing while those who are pure in heart will understand! Daniel 12:10

Which prophet named "Michael" has fulfilled any of these prophecies?

We all know that only Jesus of Nazareth did and just as the scriptures foretold that he will resurrect those sleeping in death Jesus raised a lot from the dead. Matthew 11:5

Jesus knew that his disciples can't grasp everything so towards the end of his earthly life he told them that the holy spirit will reveal the rest to them {John 16:12-13} the apostle Paul was inspired to write that the Lord (Jesus) will use the voice of the archangel to raise the dead {1Thessalonians 4:16} the same thing Daniel foretold! Daniel 12:2

Is Michael one of God's spirit sons in heaven? YES!
Did Jesus claim to be one of God's spirit sons in heaven? YES!
Is Michael the head of all the angels in heaven? YES!
Did Jesus claim to be the commander in chief of all the angels in heaven? YES!

So what else could hinder anyone from understanding this secret?
Simple! It's the false doctrine TRINITY!

Most people are blinded by the false doctrine of Trinity to the extent that they find it really hard to agree that Jesus is one of God's spirit sons instead they want to put Jesus in the person of God Almighty something that makes no practical sense at all!😟

But let's leave all that aside and focus on what Jesus himself said regarding how to IDENTIFY the true church of Christ. Jesus said there will be many false prophets {Matthew 7:15} false prophets attracts followers after themselves {Matthew 24:11} so since they are false there is no way they can produce anything good out of those following them as they themselves are greedy {Matthew 7:16-18} while Jesus' real disciples will be making disciples who are dedicated preachers and teachers throughout the earth {Matthew 28:19-20} false prophets will only gather followers to enrich themselves! 2Corinthians 11:12-14🙂

Expanse2020:
answer my question first I was the one who asked you first

So you know the question makes no practical sense!🤔

Expanse2020:
if he didn't abolished it so how come those that doing polygamy... Was said that one wife one husband of he didn't abolished it. How come swine, dog, pig that was forbidden was later be eatable to the christians.

Jesus was a Jew so he kept all those laws but now that his disciples must go and make disciples of people from all the nations such laws no longer applies {Act 15:28-29} because it was meant only for the nation of Israel until the arrival of the Christ! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Expanse2020:
how does this connected to the question?

If your Allah once allowed drinking alcoholic beverages but today forbids it then your question makes no practical sense. So answer the question if you are sincere with yourself!🤔

Expanse2020:
But Jesus was sent to fulfill but not to abolished any law
Where you guys now twisting bible at your own perri

Did Jesus abolish any law?
Can you quote a law where God said a man should marry more than one wife?🤔

femi4:
End of the conversation
You choose to avoid answering the question

It's OK thanks!🙂

Expanse2020:
were they pagan?
Or was it Jesus that declared more than a wife is abomination.

Can Muslims drink alcoholic beverages today?
Was there a time Allah permitted alcoholic beverages?🤔

Expanse2020:
Was the Jesus forbidden that too.

God didn't give all the rules at once it was a gradual process. So when Jesus came there are lots of changes in what faithful people believe because the laws given to Israel was to guide them until the Messiah arrives {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} but they things Jesus taught will lead us to have everlasting life! John 3:16

femi4:
I didn't ask for an epistle..just answer the question now

The skin came from where?


2. This is Eve talking about God here post garden of Eden

Adam made love to his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth,[a] saying, “God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him

How many people claim God gave them children today?
Are they all worshipers of God?

Well it seems you don't know what it means to talk about God and when God is talking to someone!🤔

femi4:
So the skin of animal came from where.

God clothed them because they said:

"We are naked" Genesis 3:10 compare to verse 21

When God forgives the person regain the line of communication again but that never happened to Adam and Eve because they were perfect humans.

For your information no sacrifice can wash away the sin of Adam and Eve the reason why Jesus' blood can wash away our sin is because we are born in sin it's not by our doing that we became sinners but we inherited it. But Adam and Eve chose to practice sin wilfully {Hebrews 10:26} that is the sin against the spirit of God. Matthew 12:31-32

When you don't understand where the law is coming from you may be confused on whether to obey or not but when you are sure it's from God and you deliberately chose to break it all what remains is God will confront you if you will instantly beg for mercy but when you decide to shift blame then there is no forgiveness for you.

That is exactly what Adam and Saul the first Israelite King did unlike David who immediately said:
"I have sinned against God"

So Adam, Eve, Saul and most Pharisees in the first century knew exactly that they were standing against God's spirit!😟

femi4:
lolz
Clothe or skin of an animal..abeg go read your bible.

Clothes in ancient times were made of animal skin nah so God made the first cloth for them but never talked to them again after driving them away!😟

femi4:
lolz
The first remission of sin via blood of animal happened in garden of eden
Gen 3:21
The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them.

God gave them clothes but never talked to them again.
That is a sign they have been condemned forever!

Expanse2020:
So Abraham
Joseph
Jacob
David
Solomon
Even Job
Moses and others were acting outside the God plan?
And God favour them than those one with a wife

None of them is a Christian that is why they could marry more than one wife since Jesus has not come to declare how we are going to live in Paradise.
Remember that Adam's children married one another but later it was forbidden. Do you think anyone could marry his own sister after it has become forbidden claiming Adam's children did the same thing?🤔

femi4:
Adam n Eve were forgiven but God chased them out of the Garden

Adam and Eve were never forgiven they have lost their lives completely so they will never ever be resurrected!

Explore2xmore:
@Maxindhouse has redefined God and reinterpreted scripture to that view

At least you agree with all the religions claiming Christians as they are saying Jesus is the God they are worshiping.

And most of them claims God is three in one!🤣

FxMasterz:
What blasphemy!

What is the meaning of segregation?
Did Jesus agree that all Jews claiming worshipers of the God of Moses truly worships his God? John 8:44🙂

FxMasterz:
How can you claim to be sharing the same line or thoughts with Jesus by calling Him angel Michael or saying He starter reigning in 1914 contrary to the Scriptures? Even believing that being a part of an organization is superior to having the Spirit of God in you, all in blatant disregard for the very Word of God. Are you a comedian?

Present your own church and let us see what you people are producing. Matthew 7:16-18
When Jesus was teaching in the first century most Jews believed he was lying while others believe he is deceiving his audience.
WHY?
Because he held a different opinion from all other teachers of God's word.

But only himself and his disciples were producing the FRUIT expected of true worshipers of God in the first century!🙂

GravityDefier:
At the bolded, yes he can't.

My question is IF the ATROCITIES OF HIS MAGNITUDE is forgiveable (from what he is believed to have done from the beginning of time to date).

He is a perfect being who knows what he is doing not imperfect human unaware of what he is doing. Secondly perfect beings have all the things they need to enjoy life and also see God face to face while imperfect humans are struggling to understand what is happening around them.

That is why God promised to forgive imperfect humans no matter what they did because they don't know what they are doing. Once a person understands what is happening around him but chose to go against God's will that grace is no longer there again for such individuals! Matthew 12:31-32

Ajsmart:
So, God will also forgive Adolph Hitler of Germany and King Lepold of Belgium for the millions of innocent people they murdered, right?

Forgiveness has nothing to do with how many people they killed what they will face as problems is when they are resurrected to see those people in the same Paradise with them but then Adolf Hitler must humbly treat them as his neighbors just as Jesus commanded if he refuses that is when he will be destroyed but until then he doesn't know what he's doing because Satan is the one controlling him!

It's lack of knowledge that's disturbing you because what God promised all His faithful worshipers is EVERLASTING LIFE {John 3:16} so whether on earth or in heaven everlasting life is assured for faithful servants of God!

Explore2xmore:
John 3:16 says God loved the world. If this framework divides the saved into two permanently separate classes with different eternal destinies, it creates some confusion. How does equal divine love result in unequal eternal outcomes? The verse does not limit God’s love by class or destination; it applies to the world as a whole.

GravityDefier:
IF the devil should ask God for forgiveness at this point.

The devil has been sentenced to death in the garden of Eden and all the armies of heaven (angels) are waiting to see how the devil will be destroyed.

So he can never ever ask for forgiveness. What he intended to do now is to annoy God to the point of destroying everything.

Explore2xmore:
Interesting how God so loved a segregated world and sent a segregating prophet.

Why couldn't your Muhammad welcome all forms of worship?🤣

FxMasterz:
I do not segregate.

Jesus is the Christ and he SEGREGATES in his life time!

There were different sects all claiming worshipers of the God of Abraham, Isaac , Jacob, Joseph and Moses in the first century:
Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other teachers of the law who were all Jews even though Jesus affirms that the salvation of mankind is of the Jews {John 4:22} yet Jesus still segregates among the Jews telling people that it's only those with whom he shared the same line of thought are his fellow worshipers and family in the faith.
So if Jesus despite being Jew excluded Mary (his mother) and his brothers from being called his fellow believers (family in the faith) ọmọ stop deceiving yourself in Christ Jesus there is SEGREGATION if you're not sharing the same line of thought.
Here is what his real disciples said:

Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them. Romans 16:17

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. 2John 10

Paul and John are talking about those claiming CHRISTIANS but failed to agree with whatever the apostles and elders in Jerusalem concluded. Act 2:42

So stop deceiving yourself and answer the question:

What is the name of your own church?

Everyone knows that there are different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming Christians so which one is the truth among them?🙂

Explore2xmore:
I see your means of passing information derives from subtle abuse.

Where is the abuse o?😟

This is the Bible not your Quran where you can't answer any question so what you should do is humbly learn not trying to imply what those who knows nothing about God told you.

Meanwhile you haven't answered one single question with that your Quran o!

Perhaps you have forgotten here is the question again:

Where did God create Adam and Eve in the beginning?

Please quote it from your Quran!🙂

No human is going to heaven because it was never created for humans in the first place. Jesus promised to take good care of his corulers since Jews in Jerusalem rejected him and his teachings but Jerusalem on mouth Zion where David ruled as king is the place God wanted to establish rulership of Christ. Isaiah 9:6-7

So Jesus promised the few selected humans to rule with him another place {John 14:1-3} they can't go there as humans because heaven wasn't meant for humans so they must be transformed into another being before they can be taken there {Luke 20:34-36} they can't marry no gender difference (male/female) bodies in heaven that is why Revelation 14:1 says all of them in their number 144,000 were seen on mount Zion (heavenly government house) with the lamb of God who is Christ!

God's original purpose for mankind has not changed billions of obedient mankind will live forever on planet earth! Psalms 37:29

If you want to learn opportunity to do so is there but when you choose to argue based on what the false religions in the world infused in your head that's your own cup of coffee!🙂

What is the essence of creating earth and putting humans there if heaven is where God intended for humans?

Muhammad knew nothing about God that is why he was mixing everything together.

New heavens and new earth are symbolic terms and it simply means new governments and new subjects who are willing to live with righteousness {2Peter 3:13} not another planet. God has promised never to destroy earth in fact He said this planet earth will last forever! Genesis 8:21-22; Psalms 104:5; Ecclesiastes 1:4

Explore2xmore:
Now it is very clear how different your views of God and eternity are. Your eternal paradise consists of a merged heaven and earth however new you claim these to be. The questions still remain about a specially two classes of saved people then where exactly is hell since you have located your own heaven in a new earth? Invariably then is why God comes down and not formerly mortal go up to meet the supreme?

All these things came as consequences of rebellion against God so all of us must experience one difficulty or another in this system of things {Matthew 6:34} the government that is under God's control is the only solution to all these problems that is why Jesus said we should continue to pray and work towards it. Matthew 6:10, 33

In the beginning God never intended to allow human government (human rule) but that is what Adam and Eve wanted they thought they will be independent completely and at the same time rule over the coming generation of humans as God's but they died off and even in their own eyes they witnessed how evil began and spread among their children to they extent that they grieved over the death of their own children.

So whether someone is a believer or not all these evil things awaits everyone in the system of things under human governments.

The secret is no human can remain 100% just when we have families and friends nepotism will always play it's own part in the way we handle matters hence injustice will prevail. That is why another person who is not from among humans is needed to set matters straight among us {John 8:23} and he really proved to be neutral even when it involves choosing between his own mother and fellow believers! Matthew 12:46-50

Today billions of people are still blinded by the propaganda Satan started in the garden of Eden thinking a human can rule them and make things better this is the real issue that is causing all these problems!😟

The only reason people marry more than one wife is wealth but God gave the wealthiest man only one wife.

So Jesus said if we want to correct the issue of marriage we need to go back to the BEGINNING of marriage! Matthew 19:4-5

FxMasterz:
Many organizations say the same things you said above.

Oya mention the name of your own church nah if you are not ashamed? Isaiah 65:13-14


Why hiding behind anonymous nah?😂

Ọmọ it's only the spirit of the true God that can make LOVE reign in the midst of millions of people from different nations throughout the world as if they are all from ONE tribe o. John 17:22

So continue lying to your own soul!🤣

FxMasterz:
Hope you know that there are many organizations that satisfy this criteria.

I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35

Whatever Jehovah's Witnesses call their Jesus is the truth if they succeeded in doing the above!

WHY?

God's word confirmed that the first and foremost attribute of God is LOVE {Galatians 5:22} because God is LOVE! 1John 4:8

No matter how much you hate God's organization you can't change what Jesus the only begotten Son of God said so continue wailing everyone knows that only Jehovah's Witnesses met this criteria that's why none of you can mention any other religion as yours because you've all failed!🤣

FxMasterz:
Jesus didn't promise eternity to any organization! The Bible says if you don't have the Spirit of Christ, you are none of His.

Continue joking with your soul.
Jesus promised us that we will know his real disciples by the love they have among themselves.
I present the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses known globally for the love they have among themselves you ignored only to keep claiming self righteousness!😂

ccjoe:
No wonder, now i see they're not from scriptures but some organisational believe...that settles it then.

Ok jàre.🤣