SIRTee15:

Eledumare predates the Yoruba bible and Ajayi crowther.
Where do U think Yorubas got the words odu, odumare, osumare.

Yorùbá believe Olódùmarè is the one all other Gods are work for they don't call any of them IDOLS!

justlove91:

Though this question is not directed at me, I will answer for myself.

I truly truly prefer to live there rather then here.

But what are you waiting for here since you prefer that side and the only thing blocking your joy is death?

Emusan:

Usual method
Well, they have started correcting it now that is why you we hear something like:
Yahweh,
Your name is Yahweh
You're the miracle working God
Your name is Yahweh.
Yahweh eee
Yahweh eeh
You're glorious, so glorious in your name!
We're talking about Psalm 83:13 what appeared their isn't JEHOVAH.
Any translation that use Jehovah their is wrong.
Do you understand that simple fact?

The fact is that any organization that's calling the right name with the right work of faith will fulfill what God promised because they are using the right name:

For then I will change the language of the peoples to a pure language, So that all of them may call on the name of Jehovah, To serve him shoulder to shoulder. Zephaniah 3:9

What God promised in the Bible book Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 will be extremely difficult for those who don't know the right name or the right work to do! Act 1:8

During creation there were two persons one is greater and giving orders to the lesser saying let this be like this or that.

“Let us make man in our image" Genesis 1:26

The greater brought the lesser to life:

"Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago" Proverbs 8:22

Both worked together during the creation of all other things:

"Then I was beside him as a master worker" Proverbs 8:30

So when David said what is quoted above he's being inspired to write what will happen in the future times when the lesser will be given a seat beside the greater in heaven that's why it's understatement referring to Jesus (lesser) as Son of David who is great grand child of Adam one of the creatures made by the lesser himself! Colossians 1:15-16

AbuTwins:

Moses's books were written thousands of years ago so how do you expect it to be preserved?
I have given you the Qur'an verse earlier about what Allah says!

So in a nutshell you can't claim you believe Moses or Jesus when you don't know what they taught you can only speak for your Allah whose words are found in your Quran!

Now talk about "MUSLIMS"
Are you sure that all those going to the mosque to bow towards the black stone in Mecca are PRACTICING what your Allah says?

SIRTee15:

Ayelala is the name of an idol not God. Yoruba call God Olorun or Eledumare.
And idol worshippers never forbade anybody to use the name of their deity anyhow.
Its even common for them to swear or curse in the name of their deity.
Try another trick.

Yoruba didn't use the word 'Olorun mi o' as exclamation mark until they extrapolated it from the English language oh my God

Ọlọ́run or Elédùmarè came with Àjàyí Crowder's translation and the word IDOL comes with British mentality from what Yorùbá people believe all are Gods nothing like IDOL it's your own religion that refers to their Gods as IDOLS!

AbuTwins:

They have their laws which was for their time!
Moses taught eye for an eye!
Jesus taught charity (overlooking retaliation)!
Allah says:
And We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, it shall be for him an expiation. And whosoever does not judge by that which Allah has revealed, such are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong­doers - of a lesser degree). Al Maidah:45

You're not quoting Moses or Jesus rather you are quoting Allah.
So what exactly did Moses and Jesus taught that you believe you're PRACTICING today?

SIRTee15:

Oh my God originated from the English language.

Most of you only stays within one locality and start claiming you're knowledgeable.


Have you been to any other place apart from where they born you?

In Yorùbá land here when people see what amazes them it's the name of their God they will shout in amazement.

Go to Ìlàjẹ in Ondo state you will hear them shout:

"Ayélála Ìgbòkokò!"

That's "My God" in their own languages.

Does it mean they saw their God each time they utter such or they're greeting their God?

AbuTwins:

You believe them entirely and follow what is inspired to the Prophet!

So what exactly do you know that Moses and Jesus taught that you are following today?

Catapault:
African-American Professor Recounts His NDE

This man says that there are many levels of heaven. The astral plane is the next level up from here, and is where we go when we 'die'.

He says that just like money is our currency here, ie what you can use to enjoy a higher living standard, on the astral plane, the currency is the ability to move up to higher levels of heaven.

He says that just as someone can bribe you here to do something unpleasant, and pay you 5 million dollars, there are people on the astral plane that can bribe a soul to come to Earth and live an Earth life for x number of years, and they will tell you the exact life you will live, the suffering you will endure, and how long you will live, and the payment you get for that is that when you return, you will move up to a particular higher plane than the astral plane.

He said many souls accept the bribe since an earth life is just a few years compared to the equivalent of 3,000 to 4,000 years of an astral body.

Those who refuse the 'bribe' and wish to proceed naturally to the higher level take much 'longer' - often the equivalent of thousands of years - to get there.

Because Earth is a ROUGH place that trains you with the right spiritual experiences which enable you to advance up the ladder to the greatest heavens, much quicker.

Incredible testimony.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTobOwDaiSM&ab_channel=AboutFreedomShow

If you truly believe what this people told you i'm asking you in person:

Between here and the other side which they've told you so much about where do you want to live now?

SIRTee15:


Thomas said “Ὁ Κύριός μου καὶ ὁ Θεός μου", literally meaning the Lord of me and the God of me.

If this is an exclamation mark coming from the mouth of a Jew, and it not blasphemy then I don't know what else to say to U.

Delusion is free.

A Muslim here has finally admitted Jesus is divine while a Christian continues to wallow in deliberate self inflicting ignorance.

People often explain saying "Oh my God" at the sight of something that amazes them it never meant that what they saw is their God!

AbuTwins:

Good question!
Simply defined, a Muslim is one who submits to Allah through His Prophet.
So by this definition, those who submits to Allah through Prophet Noah are Muslims!
So by this definition, those who submits to Allah through Prophet Moses are Muslims!
So by this definition, those who submits to Allah through Prophet Jesus are Muslims!
So by this definition, those who submits to Allah through Prophet Muhammad are Muslims!

What do you mean by SUBMIT?

Is it just to claim those people are prophets or to put what they taught into practice?

AbuTwins:

No, Sir! You were a Mosque-goer or an Alfa-follower not really a Muslim!

I love this walahi talahi!

Please who is a real Muslim?

Solajinspiratio:

Zipporah Mushala.

What this person told you is more important than what you read in God's word shey?

Who did this to you nah?

Emusan:

But NWT used the word never found in the manuscripts. Is that not fraudulent insertion?
I never said KJV is not RELIABLE I only said it made mistake for USING JEHOVAH which never appeared in the manuscripts and this is supported by many scholars. Reason why we have other translations to compare.

Guy instead of arguing blindly here on NL why not go to all those places of worship where they use to sing:

JEHOVAH is your name, JEHOVAH is your name
Mighty father, great in battle
JEHOVAH is your name.

Stop them from using the name since you believe it's a mistake not just trailing only JWs up and down.

SIRTee15:

How can Thomas use God's name as an exclamation mark as U claim when he knows Moses law doesn't allow it.
A Jew for that matter. He saw Jesus and he shouted 'my God'as expression of shock!!!
Very funny

So the title "GOD" is the name Moses talked about when he said Israelites shouldn't use God's name in vain shey?

Abeg stop quoting me because small time now you will start using multiple monikers to insult me claiming you're many people!

Emusan:

Yes!
My scholars have pointed that out as the FOUR Tetragrammaton letter never appear in that verse in any known manuscripts.
Do you then agree that NWT made mistake also for using that name in that verse?

NO!
That's why we are using NWT but since you think the KJV is not reliable then why are you still using it?

SIRTee15:

Do not call the name of your God in vain. The 4th commandment.
“You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

What correlation has this nonsense got to do with my post?

AbuTwins:

Of course sir the OP is not for JWs. You don't believe in the Trinity! Nor that the father, son and Spirit are coequal, coeternal with distinct personalities! Na those Christians wey believe such i dey ask!

Have found the word TRINITY in the Bible or is there anywhere the Bible said Father, Son and Spirit are coequal?
Well i was a Muslim too so i know why you're happy arguing with deluded religionists who are claiming Christians when what they believe is not found written in God's word!

AbuTwins:

So which Bible verse(s) proves without ambiguity that the Spirit is God Omniscient?

fxmasterz
Kobojunkie
MaxInDHouse
Flows001
Jaycee07
Ken4Christ
BeigJawnson
Aemmyjah
HISSCRIBE1995

Please when next you want to argue with your friends don't include me i believe whatever is found written in the Bible not dogmas!

Solajinspiratio:

Divine Revelation: Jehovah’s Witnesses Founder Charles T. Russell Is Agonizing In Hell.

Instead of talking about what God said in plain words you're quoting the nightmares of some deluded Churchians shey?
Continue deceiving yourself!

PastorAIO:

Why are you lying? It's so self defeating. You should know that I am not convinced by your lies. Where did Satan say that there is No Death? The wages of Sin is death was said at a later part of the bible. god said that on the day that he eats a fruit on that day he will surely die. That too was a lie. There was no death on that day.

How old was Adam when he died?
Because the highlighted shows you need more knowledge to understand that Adam died the very day he sinned:

"However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day" 2Peter 3:8

Adam lived 930 years {Genesis 5:5} and no man lived up to 1,000 years meaning all sinners dies within one day!

Ohyoudidnt:

Quite an interesting but appropriate question

The Holy Spirit was given to Jesus by his father so it's not Jesus' property that's why he begged his father to give his disciples the same active force in other for the (as imperfect humans) to meet up with the responsibility of disciple making which they can't do without the spirit of God!

Michael547:

If God does not need a name, How do you explain psalm 83:18 in the screenshot below?

I think King James made a mistake!

Aemmyjah:

Does Jesus who you also address as God need a name?

Hen nah!

StillDtruth:

Off point!
You are the one misleading others now.

Until you present a single Nairalander who is not misleading then i will believe you're mentally stable because from what i noticed about mad people everyone around them are misleading!

Catapault:


The overwhelming majority of near-death experiencers state that they did NOT want to return. But they were told that it was 'not their time' to be there, and that they still had some work to do here.

They describe the level of joy, acceptance, and love there as 'indescribable' by our standards.

I've read testimonies of people who say that there are COLOURS that exist there that don't exist on earth.

Nothing ever withers or decays like here on Earth.

Like here where you build a house and a few years later it needs repainting etc.

No such thing there.

Plus green grass looks perfectly green, and everything looks exactly as it should look, just as though it was created today, ie fresh and new, etc etc.

That this Earth plane is just a poor and lousy imitation of there.

There is no night time.

It's always DAYTIME (with no sun), and there is no sleeping.

You don't even need to eat or drink, but you can if you want.

It's usually the newly arrived people that do that, because they are used to such, coming from Earth.

After a while they don't bother.

There's no gravity, so you have houses and buildings on the ground, and up in the air.

One more thing. Do you know why we experience the passage of time here?

It is because we are suffering. Even our so-called rich people are suffering.

Afterall, there is always something to worry about, no matter how rich you are.

Ever noticed how when you are having a good time, TIME passes by so quickly?

But when you are suffering, it passes by slowly?

It's because TIME is an illusion of the mind. It is the state of your Consciousness that determines if there is 'time'.

In conditions of TOTAL enjoyment and satisfaction as exist there, (ie our biggest state of enjoyment here multiplied by 2,000) you do not experience the passage of time AT ALL.

Everything happens in what is called 'The Eternal Now'.

It's very hard to explain or understand in our dimension.

Now imagine being in that situation, and then they now tell you, oya it's time to go back!

It's like they are sending you to hell.

That's why they say that if there is any hell, it is this Earth you are in now. Nowhere else.

Many people fall on their knees begging not to be sent back here.

As you're begging, you'll suddenly find yourself on the hospital bed, getting revived by doctors, and voila! You're back.

I want you to make this personal!

If you truly believe what this people told you i am asking you in person:

Between this side and the other side which one do you prefer?

PastorAIO:

Although The Serpent said 'you will not certainly die'. Very different from 'you will certainly not die'. It introduce the issue of probability by stating that the death was not certain. It never said there was a certain death.

God said DEATH is the wages of sin but Satan said there is NO DEATH whoever is claiming that death doesn't end the existence of physical creatures is on Satan's side!

Catapault:


99% of near-death experiencers do not utter this rubbish you said. These are real human beings like you who went through a trauma that a fool like you has never experienced, so you need to humble yourself, quit being an idiotic jerk, and respect/ponder upon what they are telling the world.

The fact that their experience contradicts what your religion says should make you question the accuracy of your British-handed, zero evidenced ‘holy book’, instead of trying to mock them.

The links have been provided for you to read their accounts.

If you were intelligent, you would quietly spend some hours to read those accounts, to educate yourself on transition.

Please between this side and the other side which one would you prefer?

They are just envious of God's people being preachers and teachers of God's word so they also want to teach but the incoherency really makes me laugh!

What is hard in Jesus been a MESSENGER of God asking his father to send that active force which He uses in accomplishing His purpose to imperfect humans who are willing to work with God in gathering obedient ones globally?

Aemmyjah:

Don't mind him
Why must Jesus ask?
Since they are equal, Jesus could send his own spirit

Àbí o, since God and Jesus share the same spirit why couldn't Jesus just send his own spirit instead of asking the father?

Aemmyjah:

So Jesus will ask God to send himself to the Apostles? Was it that same God that someone else wanted to buy?

If the spirit of God is God himself that means Jesus will tell/order his father to send himself (the father) to Jesus' disciples!

Solajinspiratio:

Archangel Michael revealed to Daniel the sinful lifestyle and unrepentant condition that brought Fela Kuti to Hell after his death on Earth in 1997.

GOD:
"But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die" Genesis 2:17


SATAN:
“You certainly will not die" Genesis 3:4b

So if Fela is alive somewhere now who lied in the beginning between the two persons above?