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Roycemadeit:
Where exactly did God warn the Canaanites?

So how come the Gibeonites in the same territory choose to make peace with the Israelites?

Note that the Gibeonites only heard what this God did to the Egyptians they live in the same place but wisely went to make peace with the people whose God is the Almighty. They said:

“Your servants have come from a very distant land out of regard for the name of Jehovah your God, because we have heard about his fame and about all he did in Egypt" Joshua 9:9

So stop deceiving yourself this people live in the same territory but got the warning message unlike those who expected God to open the cloud and speak to them!🙂

Roycemadeit:
Your Bible describes Israelites as terrorists, carrying out organized violence against other populations, acting on God's command.

Joshua 6:20-21 describes the destruction of Jericho, including “men and women, young and old.”

The folks who were murdered, raped, killed while living in their own land, would call the invaders loving people abi?

How do you people think for God's sake?

Why not use your inner sense to judge matters?

Back then the only way people claim lands is through war and invading the inhabitants of any place but instead of the Bible God to do that He allowed His worshipers to be enslaved in the land of Egypt for over 400 years so that they become helpless, in fact the Egyptians were killing males born to Israelites with the intention of reducing male fighters perhaps they could think of revolt. Now the God of Abraham didn't send Moses to go and deliver His people from Egypt during his youthful vigor but allowed Moses to become an octogenarian with his elder brother before saying
"go and deliver my people in Egypt"
Now judge for yourself.

If you hear today that the smallest state in the US decided to leave and to come and occupy a space here in Africa the size of Algeria what would you say?

"Impossible" not so?

But now imagine the US with all their military intelligence refused to let this small population leave and it turned to war between the US and the small population until the US government surrendered and say "please you can go now" after destroying almost half of the US please which country in Africa will say they wouldn't allow such people to occupy the land they choose?

You people just read the Bible without thinking deep!

Ọmọ back then God used the same logic people use to occupy land but due to His mercy He sent a warning message to all the inhabitants of Canaan that He is the Almighty God and He is coming with the Israelites when the people themselves knew that that is the same way they do occupy lands taking it by force but now they decided to wait and fight against a people whose God singlehandedly defeated Egypt the world power back then without a military force!

Ọmọ judge for yourself nah!🤔

Even when the Israelites got to Canaan the most powerful tribe in Canaan didn't think of fighting the Israelites but surrendered humbly saying they will serve both the Israelites and this wonderful God!

So if those who are not strong like the Gibeonites decides to fight the most powerful nation who are coming with the most powerful God over the land that Abraham has paid for ọmọ who is at fault?🤔

Roycemadeit:
A snake is an animal acting according to its nature.

Exactly what i'm saying!

So if that's the nature of snakes how come you feel that humans who supposed to be virtuous do not need to be taught before you declare them INNOCENT?

Are criminals born evil from birth?
Of course they look innocent at birth just like a snake but it's when they grow without sound doctrine that they become evil even worse than snakes.
So when God destroy instead of focusing on what He destroyed try to reason deeply than merely judging matters without thinking deeper because a baby snake looks harmless until it grows just as human babies do but today we have people who are worse than vipers among us!🥱

Roycemadeit:
Show me the offense committed by the human child.

What did that child personally do that made the child deserving of death?

This is really funny!

Why not wait until a snake bites before judging it simply because of what it's ancestors are doing?🙂

Roycemadeit:
I don't see the child committing an offense. You claim the child was guilty, so show me what the child did.

Do you see baby snakes killing people?
Is it not when they grow up that they do things like their parents?

So what does a baby snake that is SO INNOCENT does to you before you kill it?🥱

lawani:
Nations go to war over religion. Terrorists kill over religion.

This is a big lie my guy!🙂

Anyone threatening you doesn't do so because of God who no man can see rather they want to take something from you which they can see and valuable to them.
Those you call terrorists are after your land where you have natural resources that's valuable so they only come using religion as cover because with false religion they can brainwash even your own people to join them in fighting you!🥱

Seun:
What did the infant do to deserve death?

What does a baby snake do before you kill it?🤔

Roycemadeit:
What threat did the infant pose? What personal wrongdoing did that child commit?

What makes children innocent?

Please answer with sincerity?🤔

MightySparrow:
Pst Adeboye talked about tithe a and hell and that became an issue. There is Taze Russell miracle wheat scandal, you want to sweep it under the carpet? Miracle wheat is no miracle?
Here to debunk lies and hypocrisy

What is miracle wheat again nah?

Guy you think this is about jokes shey?🤔

Roycemadeit:
For God so hates the world that He will destroy it because it disbelieves in His Son.

You love deceiving yourself!🙂

If all the inhabitants of planet earth are Jehovah's Witnesses this planet will become a paradise instantly.

That is what sincere and honest hearted people are saying so if you now think God who is about to make that change hates you then you need to check yourself!🥱

Roycemadeit:
Who told you? God?
The same God that doesn't know right and wrong, the same God that punishes children for innocence.

Who are the innocent children that God punished?
Atheists with confused state of mind!😁

When children are kidnapped is the kidnaper in need of children or targeting the parents to get something from them?

Ọmọ God destroys when people are becoming a threat to the lives of others just as you too will approve the killing of evil people!🙂

lawani:
RELIGION ISNT MORE THAN AND WILL NEVER BE MORE THAN A NEW EXCUSE TO FIGHT WARS. BEFORE RELIGIONS PEOPLE FOUGHT WARS ONLY OVER TERRITORY

You just love deceiving yourself.

There is no religion that is about war every one fighting and killing only does so because they want to get something by force.

So when you see people fighting never think it's about God because we can't see God it's what we see and want that people are fighting for!🥱

lawani:
If you believe a monster who is deleting law abiding people for unbelief is God then who does not believe in God is more reasonable than you are

If you call people who depend on weapons to settle disparities Law-abiding surely you still have a long way to go because being able to abide by law doesn't mean you have become perfect rather it simply means you take to corrections/reminders when someone calls your attention without the threat of weapons.

So there is nothing like law-abiding when you carry weapons about to force people into doing what you think is good for one and all. That is why God promised to destroy all those who can't simply abide by virtue unless they are threatened with weapons.🥱

MightySparrow:
No comment on the miracle wheat scandal?

You need to step up with your IQ miracles/magic are supernatural acts so it depends on each person to determine whatever you want to call supernatural acts.
Meanwhile miracles do occur at the times most unexpected that is why most people who lived during the time of Jesus didn't believe what eyewitnesses say about his miracles.

Roycemadeit:
Motice the language he is using: “our God promised.”

Did our God personally come to you and make that promise? Did you hear him say Isaiah 11:9?

Who told you that there should be right and wrong?
Ọmọ if you don't believe in God then there is no reason claiming something is right or wrong nah!🤔

Roycemadeit:
Someone begging to be reinstated after being excommunicated doesn't prove that weapons are unnecessary. It only proves that social consequences can influence someone who values membership in the group.

Just as it will be when mankind in general agree on what God said and there is no group of people to associate with outside God's organization.
As long as there are groups they can associate with then there will always be evildoers.
So that is why our God promised to destroy all those who are not believing the same thing as we do.


For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. ‭John 3:16 NIV‬

Now is the time to know what the Bible says and why you need to believe in it! 🙂

Roycemadeit:
And you're making the same mistake with weapons: you're confusing the tool with the person using it.

No!
When the society approves the use of weapons as a means of settling issues that gives room for more destructive devices to be invented and the whole thing turn worse!
Only humans know how to make devices that can destroy lives and when people now depend on it as means of settling issues you have opened the door for what you can't contain.
Among God's people we depend only on God's word and if anyone feels he doesn't want it we will leave him for God to judge such a person the means God will handle the matter is not ours to figure out for Him!🙂

MightySparrow:
That is the delusion I am talking about. Which organization is claiming that Satan is controlling them? When you claim, 'only true religion', by whose standard: God's or GB's?

When Jesus said he is the only Way, Truth and Life many of his contemporaries also said Jesus and whoever believes in him are deluded.
So if you are not interested in the only true religion it's OK but claiming you believe what Jesus said some 2,000 years ago when you can't present any group following his footsteps is self deceit.
Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and many other first century Jews disagree with Jesus and his disciples.
WHY?
Because they claimed it's Moses who is not present they believe but as for the current prophet God was using in their time they said he is a fraud.
So your type has always been on this planet claiming they worship the same God with us but we will always tell you that you are not worshiping our God if you are not on the same page with us!🥱

Scientists have confirmed that blood transfusion is not safe for many reasons but it's fractions is what we are working on because when God says we shouldn't eat blood he wasn't talking about human blood but that of animals {Genesis 9:4} so after discovering that fractions of blood differs from whole blood we adjusted our understanding.
We eat egg and egg contains fractions of blood in it but then if someone should strangle a fowl for consumption without shedding it's blood then such a person is going against God's law whereas the same doesn't apply to eggs.

So in a nutshell what we are now saying is that after thorough research we have come to know that it's the whole blood that's not good from one body to another whereas it's fractions is useful just like an egg!

holashayo:
God's command on not consuming blood is different from blood transfusion because it has different purposes. We consume blood for satisfaction and pleasure but blood transfusion saves lives.
Blood is life, so it is life for a life not life to be eaten.
If blood transfusion is against God's command why then did God endowed medical doctors the ability idea of blood transfusion.
God created the world perfectly, one for another.
So eating blood is just the same as killing while blood transfusion and other medical aspects are life saving.

Funny atheists always seeking the attention of faithful servants of God, no one has your time again now until you people tell us the name of your church.

Meanwhile if we see any sincere individual who wants to learn we will engage but as for you faithless guys continue ranting in vain!🥱

MightySparrow:
Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That has been the core course of your organization. Catholics are attacked, Anglican, pentikostals, and others.Why are always asking for which church someone belongs?

Try to be sincere each time you are commenting at least.

That organization says Jesus is the one directing them and this man called Jesus you yourself knew how he attacked false religions claiming worshipers of his God in the first century when he keeps on speaking about the things they ought to do but failed to do {Matthew 23:23} but do you see any of his disciples in their letters to the congregation mention any of the religions Jesus talked against?

Please try to be sincere, i don't speak about any religion it's the organization claiming Jesus is the one directing them that's speaking against false religions claiming they belong to the same God with him. So if you're quoting me please say exactly what i said not what the organization (Jesus) said. You can only ask me to expatiate on what Jesus (organization) said since i believe in Jesus and the organization but claiming that is what i said makes you a liar o.

Imagine me saying you said any individual who doesn't pay his tithe will go to HELLFIRE how will you feel? But that is what your Daddy G.O said (not you) and you believe he the man of your God. So instead of quoting him and claiming you said it rather i will quote exactly what you said!🤔

MightySparrow:
So if your organization is an imperfect, perfect congregation of people, why are you talking against other denomination's imperfections?

That is Jesus you are talking about not me. He is the one who has the right to judge but as for me i only present the one and only true religion.
Have you ever seen me talk against Islam?
That's my former religion so had i want to talk about falsehood in religion that's the one i know very well but i don't because that is not my job what Jesus told me is to preach and teach about salvation which could only be attained through pure worship.
Your problem is that you don't study me rather you just feel like complaining about me.
Can you quote where i talk against any religion?
It's when you come after me that i keep on asking for a better performing group than the one i presented!🥱

lawani:
There will never come a time when all human beings can be trusted to do the right thing.

Well our God promised such a time:

They will not cause any harm Or any ruin in all my holy mountain, Because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah As the waters cover the sea. Isaiah 11:9

So when we are diligently taking this understanding to all places that is what Jesus called the doing of God's will! Matthew 7:21-23

MightySparrow:
Do flaws are the emblem of His disciples?

Unity, Peace and Love among imperfect humans!

The flaws is as a result of their imperfect state but despite that they remain united in peace and love that's why they were noticed in the first century not because of supernatural acts that happens in all religions!🙂

Roycemadeit:
Having the right mentality and obeying moral rules is one thing; dealing with someone or something that doesn't share that mentality is another.

Jehovah's Witnesses only depend on the mentality and it's really really effective that when anyone is excommunicated in our midst without the use of weapons they started begging us to temper justice with mercy despite the fact that we don't use weapons at all!🙂

Roycemadeit:
But Max, you've just moved the argument from how society actually works today to what you believe your God will supposedly do in the future.

How wicked society works!

Instead of depending on mental state of right and wrong you think it's by building destructive devices that you can achieve peace so each person keeps thinking of how to build stronger weapons therefore when it comes to dialogue which humans suppose to use you people keep your weapons will in a corner making the dialogue arrangement useless.

That is what Jehovah's Witnesses have overcome globally among us! Isaiah 2:2-4

lawani:
Do you agree that the government of Sweden is right?

Do you eat meat?
What do you use to kill the animals you eat?
Ọmọ what we are saying is humans should be able to settle disparities peacefully among ourselves if we have the psychological weapon: mentality of right and wrong which animals don't have!🙂

Jesus never said i won't see flaws among his disciples since they are not perfect for now but that people from different schools of thought will commend them. Matthew 5:14:16
That is what you are now denying!🙂

MightySparrow:
They are not emulating you but commending you. That is good but that doesn't really mean they know you. Like I said, you are under the the costume of a masquerade. Who knows what is inside? I for one, I have your members around me, they have not disappointed me in their behaviour. I don't say all are not doing well but the those I have seen. Ahhh!!?!!.Hmmmm

Roycemadeit:
Why your organization needs courts, police protection, security arrangements or any other institution that deals with people who don't share that mentality.

We don't need any of them our God said we will see reasons why He must destroy all those who are not members of our faith because if everyone is our member this earth will become a paradise!

So you have judged yourself as you said it's not members of our faith that's causing the problems leading you people to believe in the use of weapons! Revelation 6:3-4🙂

honesttalk21:
Have I stated acceptance of the veracity of the original statement? Why do you think that means anything? I am only letting the op know what is and isn't but you see an opportunity to engage me so engage.

If i should ask you questions about your Muhammad now it's going to turn to stories upon stories.
That's the funniest thing about you Muslims, you quickly jump into the comment section to talk about Jesus or his disciples quoting what the Bible say but your own Muhammad has no real story to follow.

Father, mother, wife, children and followers are all confusing stories so that different story books were written about the same man some you people call strong while some you call weak.

Is that what you think about the Bible?🙂

FxMasterz:
"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them." Ephesians 5:11.

A Pharisee, Sadducees, Scribe or ex follower of Jesus will say the same nah!

So to prove you know how to distinguish between light and darkness can you now present a group that's performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses?

In the first century Jesus exposed all forms of false religions but he didn't leave his audience in the dark rather he presented the group that's performing excellently in God's sight by pointing to his disciples saying they are his brothers and sisters {Matthew 12:46-50} so if Jesus is God's son it means his disciples who are following his footsteps are equally God's children! John 1:11-12

I present to you the one and only organization of true believers: Jehovah's Witnesses and i am one of them.

Oya present the group you are associating with just as Jesus did because people can see their fine works as a group.🙂

Roycemadeit:
The answer is: both can matter. The soldiers' discipline and obedience are the mentality, while their weapons provide a physical means of protection and enforcement. Remove either one and you change the security arrangement.

Question:

Do you think the youths holding weapons have all what they want in life?

If they don't what makes them feel it's better to subject themselves to the rule of law instead of using the weapons to forcefully collect whatever they want from vulnerable ones like those two feeble old men?

Is it the same weapons they are carrying that's doing that work or the mentality that there should be right and wrong?🤔