FayaBall:

See as e pain devil wey dey reason like lizard yansh.

This is what POLITICS does to people's brains, they becomes sceptical about everything around them and any idea that seems unfriendly to their selfish ambitions becomes evil.
If you check the profile of such a person you'll see that politics has entered into his bones so the greatest tool politicians uses to recruit gullible people to pick up weapons against their neighbours going to kill or getting killed is RACISM.

So for now this guy hates not only Jesus but also anyone who believes in Jesus the only thing hindering him now is the idea of freedom of worship otherwise if this one finds a group of killers who has been unleashed to kill believers in Christ he will gladly join them in order to terrorize Christians!

Reflect7:

No wonder their prayers are answered, and they dominate the world. Behind the scenes they worship the real Jesus. They gave you the fake white one to worship. How long will you be their fools? This video shows TWO POPES kneeling down together in a small room behind the scenes to worship the BLACK Jesus and BLACK Mary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqYvxzR5cv8?si=siW67X3HEHy_OOFm

Please i want to get something clear!

Are you saying people don't need Jesus or you think it's only when Jesus becomes a black man that he can save?

ThothHermes:

Very funny. The same thing goes for Jainism, Buddhism, and all other religions with a pacifist slant.
Jainists for example forbid the killing of all living things including animals. They are strictly vegetarians.
So, what is special about what you've written?

Imagine a school where people are expected to come and pay before they are taught and the one where teachers come to your own home to teach you freely at your own convenience is there a difference?

All those groups you mentioned which among them is bringing the message to your doorstep?

If you don't know the difference i will explain.

I was a soldier and in the military the best form of DEFEND is to ATTACK. Someone may say he or she doesn't believe in killing at all and that's his or her faith but then what is he or she doing about those who believe in fighting for their rights?

Jesus of Nazareth was described in the Bible as the commander in chief of all the heavenly armies {Revelations 19:13-14} he is the world's most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} he commanded us to go and meet people in their homes with the message of peace {Luke 10:6} the implication of that is to attack them not physically but their hearts in which the crave for revenge hides and unlike human soldiers whose casualties are dead or wounded we catch them alive and sound in health! Luke 5:10

So with Jehovah's Witnesses organization we don't kill anyone yet we win their hearts over from door to door, house to house, village to village, town to town, city to city and country to country! Act 1:8

That's what makes the difference not just claiming we don't kill yet doing nothing to help those who are fighting and killing in the community!

Reflect7:

And you are a pathetic slave to western imperialism and white supremacy masquerading as a ‘Christian’.

OK Sir! Titus 3:2

MightySparrow:

John.1.14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The Word became flesh.......
What became Moses?

Because he existed before we exist means he's no ordinary human but in the context of being a prophet both himself and Moses are prophets and Gods not to be worshiped that's why both of them directed worshipers to the only true God who is Jehovah!

AbuTwins:

Even God was involved in the violence in the Bible! How will you say you won't be involved?
Who was the one killing in Numbers 31?
Who was the one killing in 1 Samuel 15:3?
Anyone can be called terrorist sir especially when they are your enemies!

This is where Christendom, Islam, Judaists and others failed woefully. God didn't tell Israelites they had any enemies rather what they are killing are enemies of pure worship.
So if you're worshipers of the God of Israel the law says you are brothers not enemies therefore whatever dispute you have should be resolved by those taking the lead in pure worship.
The wars you people are fighting today totally differs from what happened back then you are fighting and killing the worshipers of your own God instead of using God's word to resolve the differences!

Reflect7:

Fanatical rubbish.

OK nah!

ThothHermes:

You self talk true. Who is seeing your "good works" and glorifying your father in heaven. The only thing you're doing is getting doors slammed shut in your face.

Many have seen it and they are speaking up!

Reflect7:

You are beyond stupid and brainless.
Even after EUROPEANS have presented their ancient images of the Hebrews and Jesus showing them as blacks, your little dumb head is still saying “Jesus was never a black man.”
Do you actually hate your skin colour and race this much?
Who did this to you?
You are an utter disgrace.

Thank you, you're a blessing to this generation Sir! Romans 12:21

Beautifulday:

The scents of most candle is an invitation to demons.

One thing about demons is imitating whatever God's people used in the past but for a wrong motive so gullible individuals won't know that it no longer worth being considered.
For instance imagine someone turn a rod into snake now didn't Moses do the same?
But the won't suspect that Satan is the one behind it because there's no reason for such unlike when God asked Moses to do so.
Today demons will convince gullible people that since it was used in Bible times it is still acceptable in pure worship.

Michael547:
So why did Jesus himself not fight for political power while he was here on earth in order to solve our problems?

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It was used in Bible times for lighting but i just can't figure out why such is still in use now that there are many sources of light better and safer then candles!

ThothHermes:

Standing tall over the others?
You dey catch cruise abi na wetin?

Of all the religions ever mentioned today which is most talked about on this forum?

Well i will help you it's JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES and that's the only organization practicing what Jesus taught exactly as he laid it down! Matthew 5:14-16

MightySparrow:

That's the issue. That's why we render the Bible book of John 1:1-2

Different religions claiming Christians rendered the two verses differently it's what they're able to produce with their rendition that matters to me personally! Matthew 7:16-18

MightySparrow:

Your rendition gives another meaning to the real meaning. Jesus existed in heaven as the Word. He had an existence before the earthly existence. Was Moses incarnated?

Whatever meaning your own religion gives it is your church doctrine whether real or not what should matter most is the produce afterwards.

MightySparrow:

Is there any difference between the godship of Moses and that of Jesus?

NO! Both of them are God's prophet and it's when they walked on earth that they served as Gods Moses was declared "God" by the Creator {Exodus 7:1} Jesus was also given whatever title he bear by the Creator! Isaiah 9:6 compare to Matthew 28:18
So when God declared that He will send another prophet like Moses we don't think of their godship as anything other than privileges to serve under the most high God who gave them the privilege! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

AbuTwins:

Yes, I believe the first 9/11 attack and the purported Hamas Oct. 7, 2023 attack was an Israeli Mossad job!
That's my believe.
I am in full support of people defending their territories and protecting their family & properties as they deem fit!
I am also against whoever kills civilians, infants, unarmed men and women without recourse to their names whether Israeli, Hamas, USA, Iran or whatever!

Well there's no sitting on the fence violence is evil that's why Jehovah's Witnesses don't get involve in violence so whoever is involved has no business with our God no matter the name they call their country or religion!

MightySparrow:

I am a trinitarian.
John 1:1 mentions two gods, right?

I have told you this times without number that the title GOD was used in the Bible for Moses and others so when God promised to send another prophet like Moses to the Israelites {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} and through Isaiah we read that this promised God will be born in the midst of Israelites {Isaiah 9:6} we know that he is not to be worshiped by God's people just as we don't think of worshiping Moses or other Gods mentioned in the Bible book of Psalms 82:6

That's why we render the Bible book of John 1:1-2 as:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. This one was in the beginning with God!

So we are not confused regarding what John wrote in that verse!

MightySparrow:

Again, old friend!
You explanation is logical but not exact.
There is nothing unscriptural for Satan to reveal any truth. Truth is truth and cannot become lies because of the source.
Devil revealed the identity of Christ
Matt.8.29 - And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
Devil revealed of Paul.
Acts.16.16 - And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
Acts.16.17 - The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.
Which of the claims of this demonic is not true?
Balaam revealed the identity and prophesied about Israel.
Num.24.16 - He hath said, which heard the words of God, and knew the knowledge of the most High, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open:
Num.24.17 - I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.
Num.24.18 - And Edom shall be a possession, Seir also shall be a possession for his enemies; and Israel shall do valiantly.
Num.24.19 - Out of Jacob shall come he that shall have dominion, and shall destroy him that remaineth of the city.
Which of the claims of Balaam was wrong?
In the spiritual world are similarities and connectivity. After, the Devil was ousted out of heaven, he still found his way to the meeting of sons of God. How did he know the time of meeting? Who invented him? What was his mission? Why was he given admittance?
The spiritual world is a continuum. Overzealous of men make unrealistic interpretations of the Bible.
Is Jesus the Son of God?
Was Paul a servant of God
At the Mount of 'Temptation' Satan claimed the ownership of the earth. Jesus didn't rebuke him. Why? He was making a statement of fact. Luke 4: 6.
Truth is truth no matter the source !!!

The word we're talking about is
(prosekynēsan)
And it's use in the context of discussion it may be rendered OBEISANCE and WORSHIP.
So if a believer is applying it since he knows the only true God {John 17:3} he won't say that it's worship when it involves someone who isn't the true God rather we will take it as obeisance but trinitarians who believes that Jesus is God always render this word as worship when it involves Jesus as for God's people Jesus is not our God so we render it as OBEISANCE!

That's what we're discussing!

Lawag3:

were Jesus says he is God?

Politicians claiming religionists are the people showing interest in Jerusalem today because of it's historical background if we want to talk about blessings from God the city lost it in the first century!
If you care to know this is what Jesus Christ the Son of the living God said about Jerusalem:

This is why I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and be given to a nation producing its fruits. Matthew 21:43

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you. For I say to you, you will by no means see me from now until you say, ‘Blessed is the one who comes in Jehovah’s name!" Matthew 23:37-39

Jesus said Jerusalem will never know PEACE until the inhabitants say "blessed is the one who comes in the name of JEHOVAH/YAHWEH"

So have the inhabitants of Jerusalem changed their attitudes towards preachers sent to them by God's only begotten Son Jesus Christ?

NO!

In fact last year their parliament passed a bill forbidden the mention of that name "Jesus" in their country! And immediately God sent them a warning message in the form of a crow which tore their national flag on their national house of assembly.

And what did they have to say?
Well instead of admitting they have committed a blunder they were heaping the blame on the surrounding nations claiming they sent the bird!

So JERUSALEM is a CURSED city today until they welcome all preachers in the name of Christ Jesus!

jaephoenix:

And if they agree they are poorly made, u would ask all the atheists on Nairaland the same question.
Stupido, u asked me if I'm poorly made, and I replied u. Stop making yourself look foolish further

You mentioned my name expecting me to join in what is fruitless/unproductive i told you why i'm not interested then you paste the below drawing instead of imagining me in the midst of millions working together to make the world a better place you assumed i'm alone flying.
Is that not hilarious?
Well try to see me in the midst of millions who are working as one family and BENEFITING themselves!

Aemmyjah:

Kindly tag someone else among your atheists friends that is poorly made

THE TRUTH

Jehovah created humans in his image {Genesis 1:26} as the greatest teacher Jehovah taught Jesus to become productive therefore humans are always trying to teach/impact in others what we know. Of all the creatures on this planet only humans have tamed other creatures teaching them how to do things differently from the way they naturally does.

So don't be surprised that even an atheist wants to impact in others what he thought he knows but then instead of arguing with him on the topic he raises let him tell you the benefit of what he's trying to impact for instance if all the people around him are doing things the way he feels/thinks how will it benefit everyone? And since he's so sure of what he has how many has he impacted the knowledge or ideas in their hearts so we can observe them to see the benefits?

That is when you will discover that atheists are completely empty because in that aspect they are just unproductive yet they want to impact in others what they feel they know!

jaephoenix:

The Bible is a book adored by Christians. It has been found to contain a lot of errors, lies and contradictions and thus not a reliable book.


Maxindhouse

Why did you mention my name when you know that i will only give you one evidence?

The promise JEHOVAH made and fulfilled it in the gathering of His worshipers: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Whatever is written in that book is believable until you people are able to tell me how the book made it possible for individuals from different geographical locations on this planet to come together in millions and formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers during the time when such seems extremely impossible!

Please if you can't address that you don't need to mention me because i'm much more intelligent than fruitless arguments so tell me what is fruitful as in profitable than what that book as made possible in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Thank you!

Aemmyjah:

Hamas is not terrorist?
You are an hypocrite

This is why i left Islam!

When talking about killing for the religion you will see many of them pick up weapons with different motives but since they are fighting in support of whoever is leading them they will acknowledge all the fighters as Muslims even though such ones doesn't give a damn about what their Allah, prophet or Quran says it's when you're talking about what is lawful that they will tell you people doing things their religion condemns aren't Muslims but when such ones are fighting in support of their religion they are Muslims!

AbuTwins:

I don't blame the government of Hamas for any terrorist acts they did in October 7, 2023. The fight between Palestine and Israel didn't start then! Find attached data from 2000 to 2007!
I don't condemn Hamas! I condemn killing of civilians, infants and women!
They will only condemn them if the attack was one way and not in both ways!

So it wasn't a terrorist attack then Hamas was fully involved as if a retaliation therefore you're in support of the attack don't call it a terrorist attack!

SIRTee15:

Adonai is an Hebrew word my friend, so why should non Israelites call their God by an Hebrew name?

For instance Oluwa means LORD in Yorùbá language but when talking about Yorùbá Gods we have Obaluaye, Sàngó, Ọ̀ṣun, Olókun and many more all these Gods are LORDS to their worshipers so if a Chinese man noticed that the Yorùbá people have names for different Gods yet each worshiper refers to his own God as Oluwa the Chinese will also tell you the name of his own God then tell you that's his own Oluwa.

It's the name that is unique not the title!

It's because Islam was built on politics in their teachings they meant peace all through but with politics there's no way they can achieve such peace even among their fellow Muslims!

SIRTee15:

U Jehovah witness will never cease to amaze me. U will see the truth gidigba like this, yet deny it.
What is the English word for Adonai in the English bible.
Can the English word be used for anything else in the bible.
Can adonai be used for anyone else apart for God.

It's a title Israelites use for God but not the name of their God which means other nations can refer to their own God as their own Adonai but when talking about the name God of Israel has a particular name that all the nations knew back then just as their Gods also has names!

Janosky:

God in the flesh wey no know Matthew 24:36.

jaephoenix:

Lol. Idiota has been found out on a lie and the only thing he can say is that I'm a kid

Grow up kid then you will learn how to reason intelligently for now you're not fit for mature talks in the midst of intellectuals.

AbuTwins:

No I don't condemn Hamas.
I only condemn terrorists who kill kids, women and helpless individuals who are not fighting them!

If you condemn terrorists who killed kids, women and harmless individuals what do you say about the government of Hamas who failed to bring such ones in their midst to book by publicly condemning their acts?

You see it's not just about saying you don't condemn Hamas but think of what the government of that country did when members of their own society did what is evil.

Imagine some individuals among those living in the southern part of Nigeria going to the east and killing babies, women and harmless individuals but the kings, governors and elders of Yorùbá didn't condemn such a thing will you say they're not the ones behind them?

Aemmyjah:

You went to partake of the emblems in a group you call falsehood? You're very unwell!

Now you're talking!

Can you see that he's gradually running mad?

How can someone say a group is teaching heresy yet he keeps following them back to back to the point of partaking in their religious activities?

Ọmọ colo don enter o.
I no dey follow am talk again because it's like standing beside the road arguing with a madman!

AbuTwins:

They are in majority and also call themselves Christians!

I'm sorry this is why i left Islam because we're taught to believe in the power of numbers not facts.
This is what the man called CHRIST said:

“Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and FEW are finding it" Matthew 7:13-14

So according to the man called CHRIST is the majority the determining factor when talking about Godly wisdom?