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Templee333:
Unfortunately, my Jehovah's witnesses brothers in enugu state didn't house me.

You that's not straightforward shey?
Who will house a faithless man as a believer?
Ọmọ i'm talking about faithful servants of God who knows our spiritual language. Definitely you have displayed your faithless attitude so nobody will take you seriously as one of us.
The people you are talking about already know you're faithless!🙂

LordReed:
Where in Jeremiah 50:39 or Isasiah 13:20 does it say Babylon the CITY? Isaiah 13:5 even tells you it is the ENTIRE NATION not just the city.

Hmmmmmmmm, now check the first verse of Jeremiah 50 so you can know the city Jeremiah was talking about!

LordReed:
The so called prophecy about Jerusalem says they will dwell safely, look up the last time there was violence in Jerusalem.

NO!
The prophecy says Jerusalem will remain inhabited unlike Babylon that will no longer exist!

Regarding Jerusalem's security that is SPIRITUAL not PHYSICAL because peace will only reign globally when God's Kingdom come!

sonmvayina:
i am Not God....

So what happens to
"we are God having human experience" 😟

Guy you are just funny walahi talahi!😂

FayaBall:
Yet you have been crying and complaining about God removing the inhabitants of the land to give it to Isreal.

That means both you and your talks here and everywhere are fictional. As people are saying your screws are loose

Just imagine how he's been crying yet it's all because of the same book he called FICTIONAL!🥱

LordReed:
Quote the bible verses that you are talking about and tell me how they were fulfilled.

Among thousands of prophecies there is one that nobody can deny!

In the Bible the God (as you often say) promised to destroy one ancient nation that was really great back then (Babylon) history revealed the this nation was truly great in the 7th century b.c.e.

Of course we may conclude that this prophecy might have been written after the destruction of Babylon but what about another strange thing God said about this nation?

She will never be inhabited, Nor will she be a place to reside in throughout all generations. No Arab will pitch his tent there, And no shepherds will rest their flocks there. Isaiah 13:20 compare to Jeremiah 50:39

But regarding Jerusalem that the Babylonians destroyed centuries before Jesus see what this God said about JERUSALEM:

And people will inhabit her; and there will never again be a curse of destruction, and Jerusalem will be inhabited insecurity. Zechariah 14:11

Today Jerusalem is inhabited even though it's not by its former inhabitants but that name remains till our day. In fact people are traveling to Jerusalem but what about Babylon?
Well it has remain a ruin till today.

Please is that also coincidental?🤔

Roycemadeit:
P.S. A constitution, for example. Human beings have used constitutions to organise societies, establish common principles, protect rights and hold people accountable. Do we now need to attribute that achievement to divine inspiration too? 😂

Can you walk at night in the midst of people who organized the highlighted system?

Can you walk up to anyone in the same community confident that they will house you because their so called "CONSTITUTIONS" have molded them?

Well among Jehovah's Witnesses throughout the world i can do all of that.

Funny atheist!😂

They are ORGANIZED yet you're scared to walk at night and they are even using weapons to keep their so called CONSTITUTIONS!

Roycemadeit:
Obviously, you need to know who you are engaging with... I am a humanist and just as you have shown preference to people with shared affiliation to your denomination, religion dethrones humanism, I would not care about your religious label so much say, "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what partnership is there between righteousness and lawlessness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness?"

The yoke is what you can never ever understand because It's not about being neighbors but close associates that have a lot in common!

Roycemadeit:
Is this a matter of odo cancel odo? 😂

Perhaps you're not used to idiom and metaphors!🥱

Roycemadeit:
Matthew 10:34–36 (New World Translation)
Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword.

And we read about the activities of his disciples and himself using SWORDS!🥱

Roycemadeit:
Think about it. What should bring us together is our humanity, not the religious labels we attach to ourselves.

Come on stop lying publicly jọọ!😂

You've been saying it all these while that anyone who believes in a God be it Bible or Quran needs to be examined mentally.

So you don't have to come and preach humanity here when all what you see in religious people is foolishness.

For your information once you're not a JW i must love you as my neighbor so whatever you choose to be: Atheist, Buddhist, Judaist, Traditionalist or any other doesn't make me judge or hate you but close bonds only exists between my brothers and i.

Check out what Jesus taught us:

For neighbors Jesus said we must love you as we love ourselves {Mark 12:31} this law has been given to the Israelites thousands of years before the birth of Jesus {Leviticus 19:18} so the Israelites knew it.

But

For fellow believers Jesus gave us a NEW COMMANDMENT:

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another..By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35

So the love i have for all my neighbors no matter their religion or background is what i must have for you but for Jehovah's Witnesses ọmọ it goes beyond that o!

For instance if i travel to any country throughout the world today i become a stranger instantly once i have no relatives or friends there but where JWs are no matter the tribe or race ọmọ i'm home.

WHY?

Because of the love Jesus said we must have among ourselves.

You can be scared of strangers just as i would also be but once i found out that he or she is one of Jehovah's Witnesses i must put my life on the line to house him just as Jesus put his life on the line to save his disciples.

Do you see the difference now?🙂

Roycemadeit:
It proves that human beings can organise themselves around a shared book and interpretation.

Na wah for atheism!😂
Now present another book that has been used to achieve the same purpose or another organization that has successfully achieved this!🥱

jmichael259:
The update and my reply was about blood components. Their stand on blood transfusion and what was written in the Bible has not changed. At least check your dyslexia before engaging in public forums.

When faithlessness is playing its part there is no explanation that can help the faithless.
External whole blood:not good for our body system just as unbled fowls are not good for consumption.
Blood components: can help to boost our blood and provide energy just as eggs (which also contains blood components) can be eaten boiled, fried or used as raw with milk to boost the blood in our bodies.
So it's a new discovery that must be looked into but then faithless people will only concentrate on the changes claiming you must not change anything as if they are part of the system before?🙂

Roycemadeit:
Just as one used it to enslave people for years in the name of God and God did nothing...

That's where you got it wrong because it's not necessarily that the person in whose hand you first saw it knew anything about it.
Someone may find it and think of how to use it for the wrong purpose that's why you need to know what it should produce just as the food we eat when you misuse it and got harmed it doesn't mean the food is poisonous rather you don't know how to make the best use of it.

Take for example the JWs have used the same book to unite people throughout the world and make a global family of peace loving worshipers just as it was written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and repeated at Micah 4:1-3
This is what the world needs and organizations have been trying to achieve this through lots of programs like OLYMPIC, FIFA, UNESCO, UNICEF just to mention a few but today only the organization using this same book (BIBLE) has successfully made it possible!🙂

Roycemadeit:
If pounded yam and vegetable soup mysteriously landed in a community that had never encountered either, how would they know what they were, how they were prepared, or whether they were even meant to be eaten?[/b]

So someone who knows about it must explain and surely it must be one who brought it.
That's the point!

Continue deceiving yourself!😂

StoryHaven:

Guy, you have shown that you are a baby in the JW that you practice.

See, I dont time for your ignorance.

If he did not see me as a best friend, he wouldn't tell the wife,
" James, (not my real name) his my best friend,"
The wife told me that herself.

In fact, we are more than best friends we are like brothers. If that pains your harder.

We are childhood friends, represented our secondary school together in inter-schools art programmes. Started doing exhibitions together from the age of 14, travelled to Gambia together in our early 20s, lived in Gambia for years, travelled to another country where we are now together, still holding exhibitions together.

Omo, I dont need to tell you all this, and I might not reply you again.

If a JW could call the church a cult and you read it and did not react to it. It shouldn't be when I retaliated and showed the more reasons why JW is more of a cult that you should be gnashing your teeth.

Stay blessed.
You dont worth a response from me again.

StoryHaven:
And the Op's friend a Jehovah witness found a Winners Chapel member as his best friend.

That's how you view him but let's hear from him nah!🙂

StoryHaven:
It surprised me why you did not wonder why he chose me as his best friend too.

You called him your best friend nah i'm 100% certain that he only view you as a neighbor never as a real friend.
Why?
Because real friends supports each other when choosing marriage mate. Can you think of marrying anyone from your best friend's side?
NO!
Best friends think of spiritual activities, pray and work together towards achieving it.
Does he pray with you as one of his real friends?
NO!
Best friends are encouraged by friends and families to continue with their friendship.
Does his family members take you seriously as a friend to their family?
NO!
Ọmọ i have thousands of your likes too who often refer to me as their best friend but let me tell you the truth.
If you are not one of Jehovah's Witnesses i only view you as my neighbor not my friend because the scriptures say we shouldn't be unevenly yoked with unbelievers and from the standpoint of any serious minded JW you remain an unbeliever!🥱

Templee333:
MaxInTheHouse

Your OP found his best friend only among Jehovah's Witnesses!🥱

StoryHaven:
Avoid a cult that believes they are the only sect God relates with. They are the only ones going to heaven. It is dangerous to your soul.

Funny enough it's the member of this CULT that you choose as your BEST FRIEND!
Well we can understand:

Maintain your conduct fine among the nations, so that when they accuse you of being wrongdoers, they may be eyewitnesses of your fine works and, as a result, glorify God in the day of his inspection. 1Peter 2:12
I want to believe it's his occultic attitude that draws you closer to him not his find conduct!🙂

StoryHaven:
Jehovah Witnesses after very long years of not allowing members to accept blood transfusion, recently announced that members can now accept blood, but not the full blood though, but blood components.
To me, it's a cunning way of correcting an agelong error that has made lots of believers lose their lives.

Was there any corrections in the first century among Christians?
If there was please what makes you feel modern day Christians shouldn't make any corrections if there is a need?
Well blood components totally differs from whole blood and for your information millions of JWs won't still accept either of the two.
Why?
Because if all the available alternatives fails surely there is no components that can save the patient.
God never condemn the eating of eggs but Israelites were told not to eat animals that aren't bled properly. And let me remind you that egg contains few blood components that can help boost human blood. So we realized that while the whole blood is not good for our body it's components could be useful!

StoryHaven:
Mind you, I love Jehovah Witnesses. My childhood friends who happens to be my best friend is an elder in JW. And we still remain best friends.

Funny enough most people often say this but why is it that you can't say the same with members of Christendom churches?🙂

Roycemadeit:
Imagine an isolated English-speaking community that has never encountered Christianity. They have no churches, missionaries, pastors or prior knowledge of the Bible.

One day, a Bible mysteriously lands in their community. They discover it, read it from Genesis to Revelation and interpret it without anyone teaching them what to believe or telling them that it is God's word.

What do you think would be the most likely outcome?

Imagine a community that has never experienced cooked food but always eating whatever they they could see raw.
If pounded yam and vegetable soup should MYSTERIOUSLY land in their midst what do you think they will do with it?

Funny atheist!
Dear Mr Atheist, books are taken from place to place and it's those who knows it's value that carries it to different places after spending a lot to print it so stop deceiving yourself with childish nightmares!😂

Roycemadeit:
I don't think y'all know anything. You keep running with interpretation here and there, but God is silent. That's why you would wake up tomorrow and update your tenets. I have been telling you that is all human and their bias cherry-picking verses in the view that it is what God wants.

God won't speak to you if that is what you are expecting because you and i can think of a better way forward but when we can't that is the time God steps in by using His holy spirit to direct us.

So when we get things right and live peacefully together then you should know God is involved because there has never ever been a time when such a thing is possible among humans!🙂

MrEar:
Today, people who have chosen to live their life after christ (Christians) have a great adversary against them. The adversary is NOT Atheist, Muslims, Buddhist, Taoist, Traditionalist etc.
The adversary are the so called christian religious leaders, Popes, Bishops, Pastors, Apostles, Elders, Governing body etc.

Abeg what concerns the leaders of a well organized religion with people who don't have trust in their own leaders?

See what the Apostles said:

Remember those who are taking the lead among you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as you contemplate how their conduct turns out, imitate their faith. Hebrews 13:7

Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over you as those who will render an account, so that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to you. Hebrews 13:17

Please if you don't have trust in those leading your religion that's your own problem don't cross the line abeg!🥱

If you want to practice traditional religions nobody is stopping you jọọ let's hear word!😂

Roycemadeit:
According to the Tanakh, Satan is an accuser operating under God's authority.

Simply because you're an atheist you want to confuse yourself shey?😂

Please who should the so called ACCUSER accuse justifiably?😂

The same person who accused God claiming God lied is now working for the same God he accused shey?😂

Ọmọ ask make we enlighten you if you're not interested that is understandable but cooking what is not and expecting right thinking people to agree with you is really really hilarious!😂

Roycemadeit:
God only gets credited with outstanding performance when the evidence is absent and human logic is asked to fill in the gaps. When things go wrong, somehow it's all part of his mysterious plan. When things go right, it's proof of his intervention. Isn't that convenient?

All these are story for the gods.

If you don't want to believe God is working among JWs then point out a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses because our God has used His true worshipers to prove that He is alive! Isaiah 43:10🙂

YES!
Because Satan is fighting tough against the salvation of mankind so he's always imitating whatever God arranged for His worshipers that's why God allowed centuries of confusion {Matthew 13:25} until the endtime before separating sheep-like people from goat-like ones.
Matthew 13:29-30🙂
Note that with the clear separation today not even you with all your grievances can point out a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!

All you're doing now is lying to your own soul despite seeing the truth clearly before you that only this group has fulfilled what God promised in the Bible.

Why? Because God has allowed centuries of confusion for us to learn from their mistakes and know how to maintain our stand in the truth. Nobody is talking about perfection but you can never ever find a better performing group than God's people!🙂

Roycemadeit:
Exactly my point. So, for centuries, humanity was supposedly left in religious confusion, with different denominations interpreting and misinterpreting God's word, until the mid-19th century when your founder finally figured out how God wanted to be worshipped.

Are we then to believe that God allowed generations of people to live and die without the truth, only to reveal it through one man in the 19th century? Was misleading humanity for all those centuries part of God's plan?

Roycemadeit:
MaxInDHouse I will never worship man-made God 🎶

Better!
Now present a better performing God than that of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!🙂

Roycemadeit:
God's organization has been making changes here and there. Is it because God or His Organization doesn't know what's better until later?

That is how our God has been doing from time immemorial it's always one step after another that is why we have the old and new covenant!🙂

Roycemadeit:
Your interpretation is internally understandable within your theology, maybe as pronounced by The Governing Body, but it is not something the Hebrew text independently establishes.

Ọmọ that's why millions are saying "if the world is full of JWs there will be peace globally"🙂