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Badgers14:
Thanks for the confirmation. Really appreciate.


Another question, what if 5 inches was used to demarcate the walls of the bathrooms and the thin wall of the kitchen storage but 9 inches was used in all other places. Would that be plausible?

How much financial benefits would you derive from using 5" or 6" to demarcate the areas you mention as opposed to the rest of mind that using the conventional 9" as already advised to you by professionals here.

Are you seeking professional validation to engage in poor construction practice?? I doubt if you can get that here. You have been well guided, use 9" throughout your build. Had I known is a brother to Mr Late.

Rubbiish:
Na wa for una oo
Read my post carefully sir
I never compared the content of this thread to football betting thread, i only made reference to the thread because someone stated that no thread has ever gotten to 1000 pages on NAIRALAND.
It was never an issue of which thread was better...

Apologies if I misread your views!

We're returning soon with update on this project. Work is progressing at snail speed but progressing nonetheless to the point that we may beat the 5years projection....

Rubbiish:
Football betting thread in business section can go over 2000 pages within two weeks.

Betting na good thing?? Expecting to reap where you did not sow and end up losing what you sowed.

Even if betting thread reach one million over night, its of no significant value to any reasonable individual. As such its a misplaced comparison to compare it with this thread that has contributed to enermous learning and benefits for DIY home owners, professional builders and businesses here.

Value derived from 1000 pages of this thread is beyond measure and the testimonies if to be stated would eclipse any that would come from a 10million page betting thread.

Pls!! No compare. Let's jeje celebrate this threads 1000milestone of genuine value on people's lives in nairaland and forget wasteful ventures.

We are here learning and enjoying how to, and new ways of building houses in a cost effective way while networking and making friends that may last a life time.

Offcourse not forgetting bad experiences from fraudsters parading as professionals that have wounded silent many here. They're being weeded out from this thread hence it's survival. It continues.

Kudos again to Hajji M.

Mayor78.

Congratulations guys on reaching this milestone Page 1000.

May we experience new openings in our lives through the network on this thread.

Congrats Hajj M.

Mayor78

write2obi:
Good morning to all our existing and intending customers.

Obi how are things, yet to hear from you. Still waiting for your visit nwanne!

write2obi:
Sefcon doors 08069515662

Many thanks Obi.

KolaShangOne:
Termites don't eat Melina wood. They sold something else for you bros or it didn't properly mature before cutting.

Even an Iroko wood will get eaten by termites if it's not old enough.

Melina isn't good when exposed to sunlight. It twists. But a mature one is not food for termites.

In fact even an immature one isn't food for termites.

Bros! Are you joking me?
Termites shop malina die.
My roofing caracas was done with a combination of woods. As I set to reroof the building, loo & behold! only malina among were the wood severely affected by termites despite treatment.

Were they from a matured malina tree? I may have to take sample to botanist for wood culture experiment to find that out.

Did the roofers did that to check if they are buying a matured malina at onset? I doubt very much is the routine. Indeed most wood sellers in the East would advise you against using malina for roofing if you have problems of termite.

Malina yes may be cheaper, immaculate clean looking, and soft to nail but unsafe for roofing, door framing, and even as ceiling noggings in a termite infested areas as our place. Its a no no no!

It may however be good for household furnitures as they appears clean looking woodwise.

From my experience and others in our area using it for roofing is a waste and at great risk regret of regret in the nearest future.

In our place people use ugolo wood, and ukpi. Please ask the botanist what they are called in English or their botanical name for equivalent in your location.

Carpenters may complain that the Ukpi and ugolo are hardwood and difficult to nail. Tell them you will buy concrete nails and add money to their workmanship.

The contractors may prefer malina because they are cheap and good use for cheap roof estimates. Let them know that you want hardwood and will pay for the difference in price. A stitch in time saves nine.
The cost difference works out cheaper than tearing down your roof after lltwentyess than twenty years.

rabcnesbit:
Hi, just quickly, so what do you think of this malina (or is it melina) wood? He claims it's the best in quality? Thanks

Malina is a cheapwood and performs very badly against termites and other wood insects even after wood treatment. I have previously had very bad experience with malina, termites finished my roof woodwork, doors and door frames. I wouldnt say of using its performance on other furnitures but for door, door frames, or roofing especially in termmite or wood ant infested areas, it's no.no no for me. Decision yours though.

EgunMogaji:
No no no.

First, he needs a site inspection by a licensed structural engineer who will do some calculations.

Then a licensed architect needs to review the plans based on suggestions set forth therein by the structural engineer.

Then a licensed iron bender with a metallurgist degree from anywhere except that school that Dino attended should create the requisite iron works.

Then a licensed carpenter should select woof of the finest structural grain to make concrete forms.

Then a licensed builder needs to do the aforementioned work as prescribed by the architect

But the concrete mix should be inspected by a state laboratory to ensure strength before pouring.

Above all, all this must be supervised by a professional site inspector that is also licensed.

Anything other than this and the OP is just wasting his money and shouldn't be cheap and he won't get ripped off by quacks. You know we just hate when people share their stories on here when they get taken.

Nigerians and their shortcuts

LOL!
This exactly what I will do in my next build at Zangon Kataf.
Ndi ala!

write2obi:
come to the market and ask of selfcon doors. Sorry for the late reply, i've been away from the thread for some time now.

Thanks. Am not around too, is it possible to get their numbers please.

akinolaolujide:
How does one post PDF on this forum lemme send a copy of the condition of engagement to the group.

PDF

akinolaolujide:
My opinions are strictly to construction cos you can easily avoid being cheated if you follow the right channel in doing things that is what am saying. Doing you know good Architect can give u possible cost implication of various stages of works and materials needed?. That is if you cant employ a QS. U can even hire them on consulltancy bases when u need expert opinions. Most of you believe in the trades men more than these professionals. Becos you believe its cheaper no to involve them, because all this isuess they went to school. And all these people can be reported to their professional bodies and even license seized if needs be. Not one person who does not belong to anybody and is for nobody. As long as clients seek shortcuts and do it myself attitude this wahala not go end the criminals go just discover new methods.
As for the fuel pump thieve u should have reported him and made sure him and his manager are delt with. By not reporting you are encouraging them.

Enough of this your they can't pay or do the right thing, follow the right channel, engage the right professionals stuff.

With MSc in Architecture you shouldn't be advertising yourself or advocating for jobs here on Nairaland. Go for real jobs and leave us 'can't pay cockroaches' to keep looking for awoof consultancy here.

Your likes drew the Taj Mahal, Empire State Building, and some of the magnificent state of the art buildings dotted the world over.

MSc Architects 'your type on high horses' I must add, if an insurmountable credentials as you're claiming here surely has no business trolling here for jobs.

Just go through your post to appreciate how subtle condescending you've been yet claims to be a high pedestal professional.

You want kobo kobo builders to employ the services of an Architect, QS, Civil Engineer, Electrical Engineer, Project Manager, Builder, so that these professionals can now go ahead to employ the serservices of tradesmen and artisans for the same single 5 or 4 or 3 Bedroom project or else we as kobo kobo builders (Hajji M, abeg) shouldnt complain of shoddy job or fraud.

We can go and employ all these people for simple family homes so that when we graduate to start our industrial complexes and spiral plaza we will by then employ God, Gods and Angels to handle them.

Give us a break!

Spyder888 is neither an Architect nor an Engineer yet he produces, and reproduces elegant buildings after buildings and still dishes out valuable and beneficial suggestions, advise and general information on building to the overwhelming admiration of most of us.
Please!!!

Obi, nna biko nyegodu m number ezigbo ndi na ele Turkish doors na afia Ogidi. Daalu!

money121:
Thanks soo much... You start this project with bismillahi may you complete and move in.. In Aliamudulilahi..
Really appreciate sir.. Thanks for your patronage and thanks for believing in ursef and me..
Becos we have a lot of frauder online but with Trust u still deal with me without seeing me.
thnks soo much regard to ur family...and I need more clients from u.. Let ur friends in abroad know that u have one loyal n trustworthy man here in Nigeria that will handle they roofing project...

At the bolded, why let his or her friends in abroad ONLY Dont you handle roofing projects for people based in Nigeria??

abouzaid:
the guy also failed to realise that the cost of cement is actually determined by the manufacturers with dangote playing the leading role rather by the traders.

Dangote is a Nigerian, and he is a trader albeit a high scale commodity trader. He is a chief culprit in the business of greed trading in Nigeria. So also the Olarenwaju's at Ojo Oba market.

The point is that they didn't give time to increase the price of goods but now expect to be given time to sell off old stocks that may not have been imported within the dollar hike period.

We go blow grammer here all we like but it can't change these traders affinity to cheating and greed as they held us spell bound without option.

The essence of venting is to let them know we knew of their tendencies for greed and cheating such that their holy than thou attitudes is patronising to say the least.

spyder880:
Good morning bro, I think the problem is just as it is in every other Nigerian sector. Things are not working the way it is supposed to.

My knowledge of economics taught me that the price mechanism is a process controlled by the market forces of demand and supply. Where demand outstrips supply, price should rise, and vice versa.

But due to the wide swings and suddenness of the rise of all materials in this country, everything cannot return to normal immediately. Take for instance the man who imported his materials the time dollars was selling at N520, and is just bringing his goods in now dollars are seriously going down in value, he cannot afford to bring down his prices or he will take a big loss. It will take time for the prices to return to normal.

I am encouraged by the rapid drop in iron bars. That one continued to crash all through last week.

The prices will all come down with time, as newer dealers try to get more customers, and we pray for some stability in the economy so we can get a steady price for many of our materials.

Good morning Oga Spyder! Yours was a good take at optimism towards improving cost for customers like us as dollar to naira exchange improves for the later. It will be good to give importers time to sell off goods they imported imported at high exchange rate, but let us remember that they didnt allow us to buy up the goods they imported at lower exchange rate before dollar starts to rise. It is even arguable if most of them import any at all during the short period that dollar rose.
What is good for the geese should be equally good for the ganders.
They hiked the prices on goods imported with low rate, they need to lower the prices as dollar are coming down irrespective of whether they import with high rate.

I doubt though because greed and cheating too much for average Nigeria trader body. Na God go help us because we knew Nigeria traders too well. Oga you wan make I close shoop? I imported with high exchange!!

money121:
You are highly welcome..
So when should we be expecting you?

I will hail you in the soonest possible time.

money121:
LongSpan 0.45mm #1700 per MTR
0.55mm #2200 per MTR

Steptiles 0.45mm #1800 per MTR
0.55mm #2300 per MTR

Metcopo 0.45mm #1900 per MTR
0.55mm #2400 per mtr

Many thanks Money!

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This oyinbo people I dont know what to make of them. Imagine this one delivering a factory made measure to make roofing caracas. All dimensions are taken, sketched and cut exactly to nearest measured millimetre. Na waa, I am just wondering if our carpenters and engineers here can give us similar services without stories 'Oga the wood wey you buy no reach',
Oga no be my fault we be say the length no reach, na as the engine de cut am be that!
Oga na small problem now we go come amend am but you go put small money!
Oga we no get light since last month the work never ready!
Oga we no dey oyinbo land I never see person wey do roofing caracas for workshop-ooh!
Oga you wan turn us to winch, how you wan make we measure your roof and doam for another place.

Our people will come with ndless limiting excuses as they look for ways to dealt with you? I wonder oooo!!!

That's the problem with Nigeria. When price of materials goes up exponentially for whatever reason, it stays at that point.
The cost of this very important building material 'cement' went up sharply because of increase in dollar to naira exchange rate, now the dollar to naira has crashed, cement price hasn't come down as reports from above suggests.

Even where the price of roof and roofing materials are coming down, it still has little significant because you can't roof without building.

Nigeria traders are shylock fraudsters ready and willing without mercy to pounce on their customers at any given opportunity all the time.
I no know whether God go bless them for their unreasonablilities.

Did anyone have news on current price of cement, and rods??

Can you please give update on the current price of roofing tiles and aluminium roofings thanks

amanikondo:
I shipped some commercial floor cleaning machines and the custom could not figure what they are they call them tractors.

Lol! I bow for Nigeria Custom officers! Tractors ke? I can't stop laughing here. Abeg no blame them, too much equipment for oyibo land that customs can't catch understanding. But to call an industrial floor mop machine a tractor is something else.

bereiweris:
pls House i need ur help planning on moulding blocks during 2nd week of may bt people are advising me not to cause of the rains in port harcourt bt i reali want to mould den so i dont gulp up the little money ve saved. please how do i go about moulding during this said period. ur advice wud b very much appreciated. Tnx

Nothing wrong with moulding around mmonth of May if rain no too much. A little bit of rain after moulding would even save you the cost in terms if labour and water of watering the blocks. If the blocks set few hours after moulding b4 rain you have no problem. You can also protect unset ones with waterproof cover. Moulding blocks yourself saves you lot of money. Start now, dont wait till may, you will be amazed how many you get before heavy rain. Get as much moulders as possible to site. I did that and enjoyed the benefits, you can as well.

mufutau55:
That no mean say he no get the dough.... The kobo-kobo part be say he wan come home at interval to do the work himself; which is the best way... but not be say money no dey for that guy pocket o... But for me I for show you the holes wey dey my pocket.
Hajji M.

Many no go mind that kind holes becos e resemble CBN~Deziani~Dasuki holes

mufutau55:
Kopell is right o.
For EgunMogaji, nah chicken change... the man just dey hide the loot. Ask am if he no know Dasuki.

Hajji M.

Lol!
So na you dey talk this? You forget say EgunMogaji house na kobo kobo build and na your footsteps wey e dey follow.

kopell:
waithing the make you fear, if the total area of the house no pass 515 SQM he no pass between 2.9 to 3.2 million including wooden and gutters if you choose to used motopo Aluminum 0.55mm all round. Though this may depends on your roofing hight and design sha.

Kopell you get heart shaa o! See as you call N2.9m to N3.2m as if to say na Somalia currency.
Oboy I no dey sleep again for the total size of my roof we go dey around that 500+sqm.

Walahi anytime wey sleep wan come small, I go begin dey think roof skeleton first before roof measurement, and trusses, rafters, purlins all those words ever first heard on nairaland just dey remember when our people still dey use raffia leaves for roofing.

Roof over our head na compulsory part of building and to achieve am na God hand we dey.

Just making an analogy to stress that instead of three in wahala prone areas, build one in high end area to minimise stressful relationships with tennants.
Upper market surely is a relative term. Upper market in Maiduguri say there GRA wey you fit get land for N1m can't be same with Lagos where land in parts of Ikeja GRA goes for more than N400m.

mavverick:
Good points noted here.
where can one build high class property for upper class tenants for 50m, in some places land alone is 50m. I guess it depends on your definition of upper market ?

@Egunmogaji you asked 'weekly ke' to my earlier point that oyibo pay wages weekly. O'course weekly. It may not be so in US but it is very common here in Europe to be paid weekly, forthnightly, rarely monthly.

In general to the point of renting solution, it would be fair for landlord/ladies to collect their rents monthly through compulsory standing order at onset with option of biannual or annual pay whichever suits the tenant especially for those that let at lower market space.
The cost of non payment far outways the loss from enabling tenant to live free for years in your house while you pursue case at court. Our courts na wahala.
Again if tenant has problem with invading privacy or space with incessant monthly rent reminders, the tennant have been provided an option already (biannual, or annual). Nigeria tenants cant be scratched with small knives. If you give space, they will always come with story.
It makes more sense to me to build one letting property at the cost of N50m targetting upper market tennants than spend N20m each on 3 seperate properties targetting Bob's and Jane's especially if I am not on ground to manage these properties myself. Stress free investment should be the target.