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BraveGuy: Your guess is a FAILURE. I didn't copy, I wrote them from what I already knew.

You write or comment as if you know everything about who I am, but you're very very far from reality. You are the one copying and pasting what you don't even understand - if you did, it would have been pardonable, but you don't even have a clue!

So, you believe EVERYTHING you read from Wikipedia? That is a FAIL, too!

Stop talking thrash, by the way Wikipedia is very well referenced. . .it is a very credible source, much better than the christian apologist websites you keep copying and pasting from. . .By the way rabbis who are also professors of Jewish history all attest to the fact of what is written in the Wikipedia entry I posted. . .They are Jews, professors of Jewish history and practicing Rabbis. . .You don't even know what come is in the Hebrew language yet you are here blabbing nonsense. . .Below is a documentary where some of them were interviewed and gave their candid opinion on the authorship of the hebrew bible. . .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qalTJzk4kO0

. . .The consensus among biblical scholars is that Moses did not write any part of the books attributed to him because of the writing styles first and other reasons. . .

BraveGuy: It is apparent from most Books of the Bible whose names are associated with which Book of the 66 Books of the Bible. For example, the first five Books of the Bible, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy are called the Books of Moses. Why? Because Moses wrote them. So, it .

Pls stop going to christian apologist sites to copy and paste rubbish verbatim, Moses did NOT write anything inside the first 5 books attributed to him. . .Moses did not even write anything inside the book of Genesis. Some of the stories in the book of genesis were written hundreds of years before each other. . .


Here are the different Hebrew writing styles, and this remains the main reasons why Rabbis today have stated that Moses did not write any part of the books attributed to him. . .The Hebrew TRADITION assigned the authorship of the books to Moses but when Rabbis studied the different writing styles they concluded that Moses did not write anything inside the bible. . .

From Wikipedia. . .

Archaic Biblical Hebrew from the 10th to the 6th century BCE, corresponding to the Monarchic Period until the Babylonian Exile and represented by certain texts in the Hebrew Bible (Tanach), notably the Song of Moses (Exodus 15) and the Song of Deborah (Judges 5). Also called Old Hebrew or Paleo-Hebrew. It was written in a form of the Canaanite script. (A script descended from this is still used by the Samaritans, see Samaritan Hebrew language.)

Standard Biblical Hebrew around the 8th to 6th centuries BCE, corresponding to the late Monarchic period and the Babylonian Exile. It is represented by the bulk of the Hebrew Bible that attains much of its present form around this time. Also called Biblical Hebrew, Early Biblical Hebrew, Classical Biblical Hebrew (or Classical Hebrew in the narrowest sense).

Late Biblical Hebrew, from the 5th to the 3rd centuries BCE, that corresponds to the Persian Period and is represented by certain texts in the Hebrew Bible, notably the books of Ezra and Nehemiah. Basically similar to Classical Biblical Hebrew, apart from a few foreign words adopted for mainly governmental terms, and some syntactical innovations such as the use of the particle shel (of, belonging to). It adopted the Imperial Aramaic script (from which the modern Hebrew script descends).
Israelian Hebrew is a proposed northern dialect of biblical Hebrew, attested in all eras of the language, in some cases competing with late biblical Hebrew as an explanation for non-standard linguistic features of biblical texts.

Dead Sea Scroll Hebrew from the 3rd century BCE to the 1st century CE, corresponding to the Hellenistic and Roman Periods before the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem and represented by the Qumran Scrolls that form most (but not all) of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Commonly abbreviated as DSS Hebrew, also called Qumran Hebrew. The Imperial Aramaic script of the earlier scrolls in the 3rd century BCE evolved into the Hebrew square script of the later scrolls in the 1st century CE, also known as ketav Ashuri (Assyrian script), still in use today.

Mishnaic Hebrew from the 1st to the 3rd or 4th century CE, corresponding to the Roman Period after the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem and represented by the bulk of the Mishnah and Tosefta within the Talmud and by the Dead Sea Scrolls, notably the Bar Kokhba Letters and the Copper Scroll. Also called Tannaitic Hebrew or Early Rabbinic Hebrew.

As I aforementioned, the Rabbis studied the different biblical Hebrew and realized that Moses did not write the books attributed to him. . .According to rabbi Boteach, Genesis chapter 2 was written in Archaic Biblical Hebrew while genesis chapter one was written in Standard Biblical Hebrew and the writing styles are centuries apart. . .Meaning when genesis chapter 2 was written the writing style used in genesis chapter one had not yet been invented. . .it came hundreds of years later. . .

Rabbinical Judaism calculated a lifespan of Moses corresponding to 1391–1271 BCE. if we are to go with this age then its clear that most of the books assigned to Moses were not written during the time of Moses because the standard biblical Hebrew style of writing which covers most parts of the hebrew bible and the books assigned to Moses was invented during the 8th to 6th centuries BCE, a period when Moses had long died. . . Get your facts right and stop copying nonsense from christian apologist sites. . .

italo: I have nothing to lose if you choose to remain a non-entity behind your keyboard.



The tilma of our Lady of Guadalupe is there, the incorruptible Saints are there, Lourdes Medical Bureau is there.

Hard Evidence of miracles!

You are a liar. . .from the economist article it says. . .

"Since most patients now have some sort of medical treatment before coming to the shrine, disentangling its impact from the Lourdes effect is also increasingly difficult. The Medical Bureau is investigating one woman with polyarthritis, which had crippled most of her joints, who was able to move again after her rituals at Lourdes (a place whose damp tries even the able-bodied, let alone the arthritic). Blood tests showed changes in the levels of certain immunological molecules linked to the disease before and after her declared cure. But since she had also been taking cortisone for her illness, however ineffective it proved for the symptoms, an unexplainable cure was harder to pin down."

italo: I said read about Lourdes Medical Bureau so that you will know that no miracle is certified there by the Church without scientists certifying it as defying the law of nature.
Every scientist is invited to be a part of this Bureau, including Atheists. And Atheist doctors have been known to become Catholic because of what they have seen.
The non-entities like you prefer to wallow ignorance, hiding behind your keyboard.
Get up and find things out!

Here is a very balanced and well written article on Lourdes Medical Bureau from the economist magazine. . . . .Your claims are misleading or just false. . .

http://www.economist.com/node/304212

Uyi Iredia: I presume you know the typical Christian's answer to this question. That said my point has been made, their prayer doesn't preclude the fact that they work, which topples the patently false statement you made of Nigerians praying for 24 hours without working. I am inclined to think that was a hyperbole.

False, many christians believe that prayer alone can change things. . .You hear them say things like" Only prayers can change our leaders" or "Only prayers can save us from this situation". . .The there was a great backlash over the statements from the Igbo cardinal who said that Nigerians should stop praying and fight for there rights. . Most people in Nigeria believe that prayer alone is what will solve most of the countries problems. . .Many people just pray without working, others pray more and work less. . .Nigerians are too prayerful. . .Its sickening. . .The worst part is the prayers are all futile because its obviously not working at all. . .

anony stopgap: Hmm ok you know what, here's my phone number Give me a buzz or send me a text and we'll make arrangements.

Please reply and acknowledge you've gotten it so I can edit my number out of the post.

I have gotten it. . Thanks., . .

anony stopgap: Same with mine it has been blocking my responses on this thread. Apparently I'm banned until tomorrow

Edit: So when would you like us to have that chat?

Today will be Ok, 10 pm Nigerian time because am presently in naija. The thing is when ever I drop my email address for you I get banned and the post gets hidden. I don't even know what to do. I don't want to drop my skype id here, I'll prefer to send it to you via email. . .

He wasn't a christian. . .

Orikinla: God, our one and only maker and owner who alone gives us the breath of life is our only hope of survival on earth. And we are the living proof of the abundance of His infinite grace. Only God never disappoints and never fails. He even allows His sun to shine on the wicked and still gives them the breath of life as He even said that it is not His wish for the wicked to perish, but to repent and be saved. But as much as God gives the wicked chance to repent, His word says there is no rest for the wicked and God shall overthrow the wicked wherever they are, from the cheating partner by your side to the greedy ruler Oga at the top. Of course as you can see in Nigeria and Syria that there is no rest for the wicked. And until we rest our hope in God and God alone, we will never know peace in Nigeria. Our lip service and eye service cannot save us. Only God can save us.

When has god ever saved any body any where?. . .So all the christians that were boomed and destroyed in the churches by BH as they went to praise and worship him were saved by your god how?. . .

Toluwarni: Mazaje, the fact is that you're confused, If you don't Believe in God or satan, Fine... Let it Be. I think you're scared you may be wrong... To me you've got nothing to lose worshipping Yahweh.. Lemme ask you a question, what religion were you before converting to atheism??

I am NOT scared of being wrong. . .I just want to know why satan is invisible when every christian believes he exist and is going around causing trouble. . .By the way is satan omnipotent and omnipresent?. . .Is satan every where?. . .Can he be in Nigeria and England at the same time, tempting people and causing trouble?. . .Why do christians blame him for everything?. . .Why must he be invisible?. . .

Image123: Don't be thick, spirits are INVISIBLE.

But they appear to some people, eh?. . .Why appear to some and not all?. .Why mujst they be invisible when people that believe in them agree that they exist?. . .Can't you see how ridiculous the whole idea is?. . .

Image123: Is this the same mazaje? Why is he peddling false information and premises on invisibility? You don't see spirits like you don't see oxygen.

I can see oxygen, in fact liquid oxygen exist and can be seen. . .Why does satan need to be invisible when people like you believe he exist?. . .

nnofaith: can i play the devil's advocate here?

Sure you can. . .

kmanning: I wonder what u'll gain from this thread. Since u don't believe in His existence, why bother urself? U better regress to agnotism if u still feel unjustified with ur (un)believe. No amount of explanation can help u. I leave u to God's mercy.

Why is satan invisible na?. . .

Why is satan invisible?. . . Theist tell us that god fails to show up because of the free-will thing. Why has Satan stayed as invisible as god? He does not appear any where or to any body, he is also invisible.Theist say that their god stays hidden for some very strange reason I can't understand, if theists know he is there already and he is real and they really know and believe he is watching there is NO reason to stay invisible. Again why does satan stay as hidden as god? When every theist believes he is there and is watching? If satan wanted to disrupt god's plan as theist's tell us why is he not in the middle of every where bidding for souls? How exactly could satan make anyone do anything? By hiding he's showing his impotence. Some claim he has weird telepathic powers, but if satan could "get in our heads," that takes away our free will and makes a mockery of the whole "judgment of god thing.". Why is satan invisibe when theist he exist?. . .I just can't understand this whole tale. . .

Emusan: With your shallow brain you can still say "if I have any objective means of measurement that shows that the earth is 6000years old I sholud bring it"

I gave you an assignment you called fring groub. Did you know how RATE was formed?
RATE-Radioisotopes Age of The Earth, it's a group well known in U.S that make use of AMS-Accelerator Mass Spectrometer by using radioactive materials C-14, C-12 e.t.c so browse and see.

This is not a group of scientist but a group of fraudsters that hide under the certificates they have in their various scientific fields to promote their religion. . .They are not well know within the scientific community in the USA and their claims have been debunked many many times. . .How does AMS-Accelerator, Mass Spectrometer and using radioactive materials C-14, C-12 show that the earth is 6,000 years old?. . .Pls tell me. . .

vedaxcool: Honestly u sound confused , mixing up issues to fool who precisely? U denied initially that there was no author to the story, your response evidently had little to do with what I wrote which clearly focused on the mai tasine riots, now u claim a fame seeking muslim convert? Truly u never fail to disappoint, . . ., the story is indeed on Saturday's Trust, I bought a copy! And this is just one example of a christian being arrested for action relating to bh, www..com/talk/topic,107598.0.html

The post here on the thread has no author. . .The allegations in the entire stories are all false and the figment of the writers imaginations. . .Maitastine was never the handy work of CAN. . .Northern muslims should better learn to accept responsibilities for their own wrong doings instead of putting blame where non exist. . .You are yet to show a that any christian is a member of the BH group, that remains a lie. ..Even the link you posted shows no such thing. . .No christian has been arrested or confessed to be a member of BH any where, you are simply telling lies as usual. . .From the link you posted. . .

"A guy dies whilst making love to his wife. A few days later the undertaker calls her and says, "Your husband still has a hard-on, what shall I do with it?" The wife replies, "Cut it off and shove it up his arse!" The undertaker does as he is told. On the day of the funeral the wife visits her husband for the last time and sees a tear rolling down his face, so she whispers in his ear, "It phyuking hurts doesn't it!"

What has this got to do with a christian arrested for BH related actions?. .

tbaba1234: Let's be careful about stories of these kind. It serves no purpose, the country is volatile enough.

All this does is increase suspicion, which we do not need.

Finally, the one that deserves respect at all times has spoken. . .

vedaxcool: ^
if u are a serious minded person, you would have compared the above article with the Republican congressman, Newt Gringrich calling for the nuking of Mecca! Advice if u feel strongly about your case, closet christian, u would start a thread about it, derailing a thread with your HATE Message! As usually, u never disappoint in being a disappointment!

Fristly Newt Gingrich has never called for Mecca to be nuked any time. This is not hate message but a statement made by the Grand Mufti who is the highest official of religious law as well as the head of the Supreme Council of Islamic Scholars in Saudi arabia. . . From the report its says

"The Grand Mufti, who is the highest official of religious law in Saudi Arabia, as well as the head of the Supreme Council of Islamic Scholars, cited the Prophet Mohammed, who said the Arabian Peninsula is to exist under only one religion"

This is not some random person but one of the highest islamic scholars in Saudi Arabia(and in the world) and he sited the prophet of Islam. . .

By the way name dropping doesn't mean anything. . . .Here is another of such garbage that was going all over the internet on social media some months ago. . .Garbage can contain the names of real people, it still doesn't stop it from being garbage. . .

Confessions of a repentant terrorist:How Ibb, Buhari, Atiku Others Sponsor Boko Haram!
While terrorism and wanton acts of destruction go on unabated in Nigeria, another can of worms has been opened regarding the identities of the real sponsors of the deadly Boko Haram group.

Sheikh Haliru, a founding member of the dreaded jama’aful Ahlul sunna wal Liddawati wal Jihad also referred to as the Boko Haram sect who has since found a new faith made startling revelations recently when he named some well placed Nigerians as the financial backbone of the sect.

Sani Haliru who was born to a Nigerien father and a Nigerian mother grew up in Wulari, in Borno State where his mother hails from. Like most boys, he became an Almajiri at the age of ten and was trained for four years. At 14, he was sent to Kano where he studied at Sheikh Abubakar Gumi School of Arabic Studies. Apart from being studying at the feet of the popular Sheikh Gumi, Haliru prided himself as a mentee of the late Al Quaeda leader, Osama bin Laden.

Incidentally, as revealed by Haliru, his new faith is in Jesus Christ who he hated and persecuted for 44 years. Before he became a born-again Christian, Haliru saw fire and blood as a jihadist. Narrating his past experience, he said “I took part in the Kaduna riot of 1992 and in several northern states of Nigeria, but the state I operated more from was Borno, where I was the State Commander/Chief Strategist.

In the early months of May 1986, I was among the 36 Jihadist hardliners, who went on a rampage to attack Christian students of the University of Sokoto. In that same week, the Federal Government of Nigeria under the leadership of General Babangida mobilized us and provided some military vans and Army uniforms which our men used and started killing innocent and defenceless Christians all over the Northern states. I and the son of the Emir of Kano, who is now a Christian by name Rev. Paul Ado Bayero, were among the Muslim fanatics who pulled down the sculpture of Jesus at the University of Ibadan .

The following year, March 5, 1987 to be very precise, the “Evil Genius” General Ibrahim Badamasi Babangida secretly armed us through one of his close aides by the name of Captain Hassan Abubakar (now a Pastor with a fast growing church in Lagos). We went to go and kill some targeted Christians including Rev. Nuhu Kure (Throne room founder) after the destruction we committed at the College of Education in Kafanchan, Kaduna State And of recent, I was the leader of the team of soldiers of Allah that destroyed Church buildings and properties in Bornu State”

The former jihadist claimed to have been to eight different countries namely Sudan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, Egypt and Niger Republic. And when he was asked if he received any training in those places, he disclosed that he was trained as an Attack Strategist in Libya and Pakistan alongside Nigerians and non-Nigerians alike. One of the proofs of the training as he disclosed was a mark which he carries with him till date. The mark is in form of a sword held in a hand. That is regarded by those who went through the training as the “license to kill for Allah”.

When Sani Haliru was asked about the identities of the fellow Nigerians who were his course mates in Libya and Pakistan, he said “they are scattered all over the country and we were not too many then”. He however gave a few names, those he mentioned included Ali Baba Nur, Asari Dokubo, Jasper Akinbo, Mohammed Yusuf, Salisu Maigari, Danlami Abubakar, Cletus Okar, Ali Qaqa, Maigari Haliru and Asabe Dantala. He spoke further that Asari Dokubo of the Niger Delta People’s Volunteer Force was a year ahead of him in the Libyan training camp in Benghazi.

But who financed the training in Libya, Haliru was asked. From his response, it was obvious that the person was obviously a highly placed Nigerian as he said “you will not believe me and only God will judge the Chief sponsor of terrorism in Nigeria whose name I will not mention because he is so powerful and even the president of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan, is so much afraid of the man”.

And to prove that he harbours no fear about unveiling his sponsor, the erstwhile extremist dropped the bombshell. He said “the man is no other person than the man they call IBB. As I am talking to you now, General Ibrahim Badamosi Babangida has more than 600 men and women Jihadists on his payroll. They are scattered all over the Country and he can use them to destroy Nigeria”. He disclosed that the former military President still has his agents in the Nigeria Army, the Police, the Air Force and in strategic economic positions.

He alleged that Babangida’s loyalists can still be found in top political positions, in the National Assembly, in both the print and electronic arms of the media and even in Aso Rock, Nigeria’s seat of power.”

While describing General Babangida’s influence, the repented Boko Haram pointman revealed that he attempted to divulge some of the information at his disposal to the State Security Service, he however said it was the unimaginable that happened. “I was arrested and detained for two days because IBB’S men are so many in SSS as well. After I was released by the grace of God, they (the Police) warned me never to blow up the polity or provoke violence and I should keep my so-called-born-again with me or else I will go to jail”, Haliru said.”

He also gave indications that IBB might not be alone in financing terror in the country as he alleged that he has the names of six traditional rulers and seven present and former Governors as well as several top military and security officers who are co-sponsoring the Boko Haram sect. Speaking further, he said “I have documented evidences to prove that General Mohammadu Buhari, Alhaji Abubaka Atiku and other top politicians and traditional rulers are some of the people behind Boko Haram”.
When Haliru was asked if it meant that General Babangida, the Muslim traditional rulers and Governors that he accused of sponsoring Boko Haram to kill Christians and burn churches in the North are not aware of the passage in the Qur’an that says there must not be compulsion in Islam as Mohammadu Buhari asserted in a widely publicized interview on Saturday, the 21st of April, 2011, Haliru’s reply went on to reveal more. “: I have worked so closely with Mohammadu Buahri for five years, and I can prove it that General Buhari is the most notable outspoken jihadist hardliner in Nigeria who is also strategically sponsoring Boko Haram”, he said. He said with Buhari;s statement, it was evident that the former Head of State was being hypocritical. He based his submission on Surah Al-Baqarah Chapter 2:195, it is written here that you must use your wealth to champion Jihad of all kinds or else destruction is waiting for such a person on the last day.

“And spend in the Cause of Allah (i.e. Jihad of all kinds) and do not throw yourselves into destruction (by not spending your wealth in the Cause of Allah), and do good. Truly, Allah loves Al-Muhsinun (the good-doers).”

Haliru also indicted Governor Isa Yuguda of Bauchi State as an ally of the Boko Haram sect. Narrating his experience when he was arrested and detained years ago, Haliru said “ soon after my immediate boss Mohammed Yusuf was killed in 2009, about 23 of us were arrested in one of our hideouts in Bauchi. But when Governor Isa Yagiuda heard about it, he immediately arranged for me to be free. Even before his official broadcast in 2010 that he was using his position as the executive Governor of Bauchi State to free 28 prisoners from Bauchi Central Prison, I was already a free man along with several of my colleagues”.

vedaxcool: ^
You always shame yourself with your dullness , I am sorry to say, this article was posted on todays saturday Trust under the column Another Dimension! The name of its author is Umar Ibrahim Tafida, unless u are a CAN operatives who sponsor terror, because from our discussion, u are vastly ignorant man, as u have repeatedly claimed to be a muslim, yet u have repeatedly been shown to be a severely ignorant individual who couldn't have possibly been a muslim in the true sense of the word! Now why didn't u deny prof. Dauda exist? Or the fact that he was once a CAN secretary? The allegation is coming from prof. Dauda an ex CAN secretary, off course the rest of you rebuttal seems more desperate than reasonable! Where is your list of the commissioners of Bauchi? Oh we should take the word of an atheist who is easily swayed by his ignorance to fart out lies when the occasion calls for it? Please get out here, and what did NL law states about using multiple IDs? Remember that this allegation are suppose to be contained in a a govt. Assembled committee which looked! In sensible society such things are never waved asside yet for an atheist who pretends to be rational (the most irrational bigots I have ever met are NL atheists) dismissing an allegation that have real life people involved is quite lame and shows how lazy u guys are! Allegations like these can easily be debunked by the people involved e.g CAN or by the govt. Who simply have a report on the Mai Tasine riot containing elements of this allegation! It is very clear whenever u see Veda X Cool, u sense of reasoning simply fails u, as my contention was in relation to the Mai Tasine riot! As usual u showed yourself as being remarkebly too slow! Why are u jittery? Are u a closet christian? You typical are a disappointment do you know christians have actually been arrested as boko haram suspect? Or that two christian faction fighting over power in their church resulted in one faction attempting to bomb a church? I usually regret exposing u as being too ill equip for rational discourse!

Can you post the link to the saturday Trust that has this story?. . .This garbage has been going round on face book since last week. . .Who is prof Dauda?. . .Who are the christians that were caught as member of the BH group? Name them please? No christian has ever confessed to belonging to the BH group any where. . .The spam boot blocked me something it does frequently here. . .That is actually the main reason why I opened this id and I use this to post a lot as well. . .Carry your cries some where else please. . .I said Ganaka was the catholic arc Bishop of Jos not a baptist preacher in Kaduna. . .This story has no truth to it. . .Its nonsensical to say that a christian organisation is sponsoring boko haram which is an extremist islamic sect to kill people in churches, homes e.t.c. Using the same theory of the writer i think you can also accuse christians of sponsoring violence between muslims in Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Pakistan e.t.c. The only way the muslims in the north will know peace is when they at things objectivity based on the reality on ground and not spreading falsehood by telling us garbage about a fame seeking moslem convert that seems to have lost sense of direction other than to paint christians or CAN in bad light. . . .All my life I have never seen where a Northerner owns up to his problems, they always shift blame to others and the gullible followers will always believe the lies and deception.

The problem with we northerners is that we always want to shif blame and never accept reality. Back in the days we always say the reason why the north is not developed is because of the south, or we say the south doesn't want the north to be united so that power will continue to stay in the south. Now the story is Boko Haram is caused by Christians. For goodness sake when will the north seat down and say yes we take responsibility of our failures and we will seat down and address it? That's the only way this problems that have bedeviled the north since Maitatsine and now Boko Haram will stop. If not even after Boko Haram is trashed we will see a more deadlier Islamic terrorist group emerging in the future.

vedaxcool: Please Front page!!!

Stories like this have little chance of making most papers in the country. I just read the story on Saturday trust newspaper, and it was in a column! The allegations are weighty especially as it is coming from an ex member of CAN, muslims cannot continue to sleep while evil and taguth is running the land, muslim Journalist need to take this matter by horn, we need to get a hand on the report submitted to shagari using the FOI and press for a full inquiry into the matter if allegations contained are found to be true, regardless of whether these CAN operatives are behind boko haram or not, the Mai tasine issue wrecked havoc upon innocents, muslims and non muslims alike! In addition, prof. Dauda must be interview by journalist on the truthfulness of his allegation, and how about the two operatives in Sudan, if they are alive they too should be interviewed! It is time we muslims investigate these calamity called bokoharam and other more sinister plot against muslims, who have continued to destroy lives and property and brought great suffering in the land, sitting back while we are being attacked by an enemy within is just playing fiddle while Rome burns!

Stop jumping on conspiracies. This garbage will not make front page because it is what it is. . Pure garbage. . .The writer of this drivel did not mention his name or reveal his identity, that alone should let you know that it is garbage. . .Firstly Ganaka was NEVER a commissioner in Bauchi state, he was the former catholic arc Bishop of Jos and not a baptist preacher. . .Paul Gindiri was actually a muslim man that converted to christianity. . .No journalist that knows his worth will touch this garbage. . .Northern muslims should face boko haram and the damage it is doing to the name of islam and stop peddling lies, it will not save them. . .This garbage has been making rounds on facebook, yet no body that knows what he is upto will ever touch it, only the conspiracy wing nuts will feast on it. . .

There is nothing to this story, its is just a baseless conspiracy. . . .There is no there, there as long is this conspiracy is concerned. . .Throwing and dropping names to a false story doesn't make it true in any way. . .

ijawkid: Does it matter??.....I thought we were just purposeless apes walking around the surface of the earth with no future.......

I shouldn't be asking you this sef na that pleatton I suppose dey ask....

Mazaje how are you doing??...........

How does atheism equate to humans being purposeless beings?. . .

Am good brother, how you dey?. . .

Deep Sight: i addressed these questions to Plaetton on another thread, but I now think this merits a thread of its own. These questions are for strict materialist atheists. To avoid all mystery, the questions are intended to contest the basis of morality of the strict materialist atheist.

1. Is it wrong or evil to kill animals and please state the reason for your answer.

Nope, humans are omnivorous, animal meat is part of our food. . .Not wrong to kill animals for food or when they pose a danger to human life. . .

2. Is it wrong or evil when animals kill other animals and please state the reason for your answer.

When an animal kills another for food, its not wrong. . .If it doesn't it will die. . .

3. Is it wrong or evil for a cannibal to kill you for the purpose of consuming your meat as food for his sustenance.

Your answers please.

Yeah, its wrong because as humans we have developed other methods of getting and processing for for our survival. Methods farming and animal husbandry have been developed fully. . .So taking another human life for food is wrong.

Mr anony: Not so my friend I am defining human well-being based on the designer's purpose. That's what is objectively good for humans.

So your god sending his alleged chosing men to kill of others, ravage their women, loot their lands is objectively good as long as it is part of his plans, eh?. . .Well done. . .Let me hear you call any muslim terrorist a savage. . .

Life is sacred, most religions agree to this. . .

Mr anony: I am not an atheist but I'll answer. Here are some truths for you

1. The Cosmos has a beginning

Sure. . .

2. There is such a thing as objective good and objective evil.

Not true. . .Let's take the sharia law for example which muslims believe is a perfect example of justice that contains objective good, tyo many non muslims sharia is actually an evil system of living. How then is there objective good or objective evil. . Let me give you an example of an objective evil, it is wrong to kill babies for the wrong doing of their parents, if that is true then the bible god is evil, because he ordered the killing of many babies for the imaginary crimes of their parents, crimes like worshipping another god. . .

3. There is such a thing as justice

Sure. . .

4. Truth is valuable

Sure. . .

5. Life is sacred

Sure. . .

6. Man is not merely a material being

Maybe. . .

7. S[color=#000000]ex[/color] is sacred

Sure. . .

Emusan: Anyway, you've been carried away with your atheism. That's why I said you should do a research on the so called RATE group. Over the years evolutionist had made us to understand many thing but recently more light has been sheld on it which exposed the lies they're feeding us.

I asked you a simple question, do you have any scientific method of measurements that shows that the earth is 6000 years old?. . Do you know anything about scientific methods of dating?. . .What am i to do with a fringe group of scientist?. . .If you have any objective means of measurement that shows that the earth is 6000 years old bring it forward. . .