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@ MusKeetoo, arguing with Chibuebemis like talkking to a chair. . .He is a programmed robot. . .

ijawkid: How are you sure about the figure??.....where are the pictures of these humans??......


You have no choice but to believe in evolution because you don't believe the first set of humans were created and then set to reproduce there kind....

And may I ask:::....where did humans evolve from??...

I don't believe in evolution, i said some how agree with evolution because it has provided some evidence that humans evolved. . It might be tenous but all the same it makes some sense. . .DNA sequencing, has done that already. . .It is actually the reason why many theist accept evolution in Europe and America. . . .If all humans came from one man and one woman, DNA can be used to trace it. . . .

I have to disagree with the bolded
...Our solar system could not and never came into existence as a result of an explosion............
the features of our solar system is so just made for US for it to be a product of an explosion........

Then how do you explain the debris scattered all over the solar system?. . .Asteriods and comets and other floating bodies that are scattered all over the solar system orbiting the sun aimlessly and causing destruction came about because of what?. . .What accounts for the debris all over our solar system?. . .Its very clear that they are left over materials from the explaosion that gave birth to our solar system. . .Comets have water in them. and they brought water to the planet. In fact, they are just rock, dust, water ice, and frozen gases. . .They have landed into the earth and have been studied. . .

You might ask:::::....why didn't our solar system have more than one SUN after the explosion??.......why just ONE??.......I'm trying so hard to fix myself in your shoes........

Because many solar systems have just one sun. . .many solar systems created after a super nova have only one sun. . .There pictures from hubble and other space observatories are all over the net showing these things. . .

It was also made for the dinosaurs too...........it was made for all living things....

yet they all went extinct and lived for many years before humans came around?. . .

Ask your scientists how we landed in this planet that ofcourse was a product of an explosion...........

They said we evolved. . .They have been able to provide some evidence even though i do not find it convincing. ..Where is the evidence that some god spoke birds into life using the hebrew language?. . .

Are you not exhibiting the quality of FAITH by saying the bolded??.......

If there is LIFE and other humans or homosapien in other planets where is the proof??.........

I just believe and it is possible that my belief is false, but based on the fact that we have billions of trillions of planets its possible that life will exist on some of them since life exist on earth which is also a planet. . .It is impossible for humans to know if other planets have life in them..they are too far away. . .We can only see them through very powerful telescopes that are in placed space. . .We can never know cos its impossible to know

I know about the varying conditions ooo......
I'm only making a pe®tinent point which ofcou
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Ok. . .

Who created the varying conditions??.....chÀnce created them ??......

I'm not shÍfting the goal post.........

I don't know but its possible that chance created them. . .Just as chance and mindless forces creater hurricanes, rainbow and heavy storms. . .

Remember I'm here to show you that the universe had a beginning................

So?. . .

ijawkid: The first humans that existed were given birth to BY WHO??........

By humans, who else?. . .I think I some what agree with evolution here. . .that humans evolved gradually over time because DNA sequencing agrees with that, it shows that morden day humans can trace their ancestry to a group of humans that lived in africa about 200,000 thousand years ago. . .

And I'm happy you know not all stars were formed from the explosion of other stars....and such planetary bodies are the earth,sun and moon..........

False, our own solar system came about as a result of an explosion, the resulting left over from the explosion still remain and are orbiting the sun. . .The asteriods and coments are the left over materials from the super nova explosion, that gave birth to our solar system, they are just orbiting aimlessly round the sun, colliding with earth other and forming dwarf planets, many are also colliding with other planets as well. . .

These bodies were made for US........

really?. . .Why not for the dinosours that lived for millions of years before us?. . .

Why are we humans here on earth??.........why earth??........

I don't know. . .

You can keep on searching for Life in other planets,but I would want you to answer why we humans are on planet earth....why earth..?

There are billions of trillions of planets out there in the universe, so its VERY possible that there is life out there, we just can not know because it is impossible for us to know. . .if life is out there which i believe there is, then why are they also there?. . .

I know conditions here on earth are different from that in space....that I know!!!!..........

My point is if that scientist did not carry out that experiment would the grain of salt and the bottle have gone to space by itself??.........

Someone had to kick start the experiment abi??..........

What is this? shifting the goal post again. . .I just wanted to show you that comparing the earth and what happens inside it with a very different environment like space is just ludacrious. . .They are not the same. . .if explosions destroy things here on earth it doesn't mean it will destroy things outside in speace so the environment and conditions are very different..they are not the same. . .Grains of salt behave very differently here on earth and in space. . .life does the same to. .It survies here but will not survive there. . .

Na so o my bro....

Nothing do u baba. . .

ezme: Ijawkid stop threatening people with warri.

P.S; you be like who I see for NNPC Junior staff club this night cos the guy just dey speak ijaw dey threaten the girl when dey sell fish and he no want wait him turn.

That must be ijaw kid. . . .

musKeeto: Little wonder Christians will quickly forgive the Israelites, even pity them for their 'God-given ignorance' in the old testament.. The genocides, slavery, killings...

But according to this same African Yahweh slaves, adopted 'spiritual beings' of a foreign god, our continent continues to suffer because our people were making sacrifices to the wrong gods...

Smh.

And now 'egbesu' that supposedly should protect from 'harm' is considered esoteric occultic knowledge because it isn't from Yahweh.

Yet, the 'iddiots' will queue and purchase handkerchiefs and olive oil at obscene prices for spiritual protection from unseen forces..

Damn, I'm so pissed right now.. How could a group of people be so illogical?

Illogical is an understatement . . . .

ijawkid: You no go shut up??........

Where were you when the ??.......

You don hear say mazaje wan shoot me you don run come..........

I want you LB in particular to come to warri........you go fit??....

Come to your home and let the practicals begin...

What happened when the ijaws and istekiri's were at war?. . .Stop threating people with warri . . .Will you bring your cousins forward or not?. . .

honeychild: You did not answer my question. You asserted that there is no consciousness after death. I tell you some people have been trying for decades to show you that same truth from the Bible.

I ask this because you were a Pentecostal Christian. When the JWs showed you that scripture in your bible reading days, how did you react?

JW have never shown that to me specifically . . .The bible says the dead will rise again for judgement . . . .Its appointed unto man once to die and after that judgement. .Is it the unconscious that will be judged?. . .

ijawkid: Have I ever LIED to you or ya fellows before??........

I suspect say charm even dey ya waist as u dey talk..........

And why should you use your own gun??...

E be like ya gun has passed through the shrines of egbesu too.....

I will use my own gun so that you don't give me a bad gun that will jam . . .Stop talking and accept the test already . . .Logicboy will be there and at lest 2 other atheist that agree to witness it. . .I will sponsor their flight and hotel accomodation for 3 days. I am NOT kidding. . .Just get your people ready and take the challenge already . . .

ijawkid: What if I say all this story you just narrate na a figment??.....

Where is the evidence that this your story isn't a hoax??...

I can drop you a number to call . . . . .I will come to Nigeria and take your test. ..I am NOT kidding. . .Just get your cousins ready. . .They must be shot at . . .10,000 euros, NO kiddo . . .

musKeeto: What's really interesting is if this 'egbesu' works, it would go a long way in confirming that 'african powers' not the Jesu Christi exist... But a power that supposedly protects one from 'bullets and death' is termed 'evil/demonic' because it's african?


God sic have mercy....

According to the slave masters that brought the "good news" of Jesus, everything that has to do with african belief is demonic and satanic . . . .

Logicboy03: seriously bro?

you couldnt open something more intellectually challneging?



You're on a downward spiral bro.

This one had me laughing so hard . . . . .

honeychild: @ mazaje,
Not to derail this thread, but when you were a Christian, did the Jehovah's Witnesses ever read Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6 and 10 to you? And if they did, what was your response to them?

Eccl 9:5, 6- for the living are conscious that they will die, but as for the dead, THEY ARE CONSCIOUS OF NOTHING AT ALL.

But the same bible says that the dead in christ will be risen again. . . .

Reyginus: Smh. Somebody wants to die.

if you have any body that can be shot at without the bullet penetarting you can also bring the person forward . . .It is time for all claims to be tested. . .You will win 10,000 euros as well. . . .Keep up or shut up. . .No time for storie or them say them say . . .Lets put it to test, end of stories. . .No long talk. . .

ijawkid: Make I check the site sef...e fit be scam sef.......

Brother no be scam, if you are serious and not LYING as usual, take up the challange you will win a million dollars, if you can bring any body that will be shot at without the bullet penetrating into his body . . .I will come to naija and will shot who ever you bring. . .If the bullet does not penetrate I PROMISE to give 10,000 euros and be shot at as well. . .I am NOT kidding. . .The only condition I will place is that I will use my own gun . . . .

bolaino: After all is said and done my belief in the supernatural is still strong.

Sure, it doesn't matter what evidence you have been given, the need to believe is there so you must satisfy it because you have built your views round it and you are truly convicted. . .Here is one of my post on another thread where we had a similar discussion. I actually wasted my time and money on this juju nonsense with a friend here that believes in it but after it failed he still refused to believe that juju does not work. Here it is. . . .

I have this friend here that completely believes in juju. . .The guy seriously dislikes me for my unbelief, you know how it is when you were a believer and someone tells you things like god does not exist or that satan and juju do not exist, you know the kind of feeling you will get, the kind of feeling of great surprise and disgust, the kind of feeling that goes like this " why should some one talk like this" or "what is this fool saying about god not existing or Satan is not real and juju is a myth"? I bet you all know the kind of feeling, cos we were once all there before . . .It will sound completely stupidddd and senseless to you when some one tells you he does not believe in god or some of the many things you strongly believe in. things you have been condition and indoctrinated to believe are real. . .I didn't tell the guy that I do not believe in god, just told him that I do not believe in juju, because he is so ignorantly blind and TOO superstitious. We had a deal, he told me that I have not meet the right juju that is why i am blabbing and he vowed to go to Nigeria and get a very good juju for me that will work, he was SO CONFIDENT. He told me the usual stories about how he saw people doing this and that and how he used juju as a cultist in the university to do so many things in Nigeria. He told me that he has used juju himself and told me how his father and his grand father were great juju men, told me how he gave his friends and relatives juju to use, according to him some even took the juju to Europe and US, he said they did so many things with the juju, got riches. got women, got favors bla bla bla . . . .Told me that yahoo boys come to him and he takes them to the baba who gives them the "do as I say juju" so that what ever they tell their mugu the mugu will obey without complains bla bla bla. . .

We had a deal, I bought a return ticket for him. The deal was for him to go and bring the otomopkoh(juju) as he calls it(He is yoruba). We will go to one of the casinos and use it because he claimed his relatives in italy have used it to make big money through gambling there(he has always wanted to go to naija get the juju and raid all the casinos ), he also claimed he will come with the "do as I say juju" as well, he will tell people to give him money and they will obey without question, he was so CONFIDENT. He vowed to enter a bank, meet the cashier or manager and tell them to give him money, he vowed that who ever he meets in the bank will give him money without questioning him once he uses the do as I say juju. . .He swore heaven and earth that his juju is 100%, he claimed it belongs to their village bla bla bla and cost only 50 thousand naira. . .It was so serious that I just had to engage him out of anger and give him the money. . .He went to Nigeria came back with the juju and showed me. We went to the casino in Aalborg. As usual it failed. . .He placed 20 euros and lost, placed another 20 and lost. He tired 5 times in total and lost 100 euros. . .He was genuinely shocked. The next day we went and tried again, he won 180 euros initially but still lost all the money after a few tries. . .

He tried the do as I say on one woman and received the embarrassment of his life. . .But he STILL believes in juju. . .He still does NOT want to believe that juju does NOT work. . .I am VERY serious. . .He still believes that juju is real. . .After wasting my money. . .The stupidddd fooooool still holds unto his mythical juju belief. . .I am still fixated on this juju nonsense. . .Belief is actually stronger than I thought it was. . .You can HARDLY make some one change his/her beliefs. . .This guy saw his juju fail him despite his TOTAL confidence and belief in juju but still find ways to either blame himself or the juju man that gave him the juju, forgetting that he swore heaven and earth to me of how the man's juju has been tried and tested by him before which actually is not true. . .He just heard stories but was telling me that he saw it, he took people there and it worked for them, he said it worked for him too bla bla bla. . .Belief is a very strong thing. . .I am way past all these endless stories, if you make a claim just prove it else shut up. . .

dare2think: Don't you just love it when religuous people have to believe in down-right foolishness just to justify their 'spirituality'.

I would imagine that this 'mysticism' had more authencity before the white men came uninvited to our lands.

WTF were all our JuJu ancestors looking at when their fathers, mothers, uncles, sons daughters were been packaged like sardines on to the ships? what were they doing??

Let me guess?

Running the hell away froms bullets and mortars that was tearing them to peices!

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Abeg go and sit down with all your juju and blood money rituals. Hundreds of years after the invention of the camera, still no one can capture one, just one, the juju magic. All is hearsay after hearsay or threats after threats.

Tell this Juju men to give us constant electricity or invent the another way to fly in the air. Ill give them my eternal respect.

Well said man, well said. . .

ijawkid: your calculations are based on assumptions bro......I cannot simply say because today humans give birth to there kind therefore the first humans who ever existed were giving birth to........my problem here is the origin........not all stars were formed from an explosive process.....

The first humans that existed were given birth to . . .Sure, not all stars were formed by explosive process, but many stars were formed that way. . .I was just trying to counter Freksy's point that explosion can not result to order . . .

My point is the earth we live in and the stars that makes lÍfe thrive aren't results of an explÓsive process
........that is why we humans are in it..........

How do you know this?. . .There could be life on other planets out there from other stars that were born from explosive processes, we just do not have the ability to know if there is life on other planets that orbit other distant stars out there for now. . . .

Isn't the earth part of the universe??...don't we experience the force of gravity here too??.......

The earth is very different from space, the conditions here on earth allows you to walk and not to be in a weightless condition. . .Here on earth when you throw something up it must come down, but out there is space it will keep going up and never come down. . .The envirments are vert different, life can survive here on earth but life can not survive out there is space for more than 120 seconds on average . . .Your entire body will just disintegrate . . .The conditions here on earth are very different from what is out there in space. . .I told you about a NASA scientist that put some grains of salt together in a glass bottle out there in space in the international space center and the grains of salt clumped together and formed a round like ball . ..Here on earth when you put salt in a glass bottle you particles act very differently. . .Out there in space is not a the earth and as such comparing events that happen here on earth to what happens out there is a dumb thing to do. . .

I guess you know......

Na for my mouth you wan hear say black man yansh BLACK?.......

Na so

Freksy: Explosion usually is chaotic, like the explosion of a nuclear bomb. Naturally, do they result in better organization? Do the bombs that fall on cities in wartime produce superbly designed buildings, streets and signs with traffic laws? On the contrary, such explosions cause wreckage, disorder, chaos, disintegration. And when the explosive device is nuclear the disorganization is total, as experienced by the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.

A mere "explosion" could not create our awesome universe with its amazing order, design and law. Only a mighty organizer and lawmaker could direct the powerful forces at work so that they would result in superb organization and law. Scientific evidence only provides solid backing for the Bible's declaration:

"The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.."—Psalm 19:1(New American Standard Bible)

The conditions on earth is VERY different from out there in space, the universe is not a human society or the earth and as such has no reason to behave like the earth, you can not even survive a second in space, but you survive here on earth, so i don't even know what you are talking about. . . .Supa novas do happen and they give birth to new stars, which then give birth to new solar systems, our own solar system came about as a result of a super nova explosion . .. there are picture evidence available taken but observatory like the hubble space telescope for all to see. . .You can keep shouting that scintific evidence provides backing for the biblical declaration but it doesn't make it so. . .

Freksy: Lol. You have seen it all. That's a perfect order of how the things you see today on earth came to be. Recall that it was presented by one of those some of you describe as "ape-man" and "illiterate". It staggers you so much that you begin to say I am lying, that none of those things read like what happens in genesis creation account. You failed to see that I provided scriptural reference(s) for each of those stages, and anyone can look them up and see you as a blatant liar.

The truth is what they wrote down is not what you copied from the christian apologetic website, by the way, what you posated is NOT you own making or writing, you copied it from the cosmic finger website a website I am already familiar with. . .So, stop claiming that you wrote it. . .Its not your writing but a copy paste. . .The author completely tries to force the bible to agree with what mordern science has revealed. . .He even lies againt the bible. . .the bible is very clear, it talks about non existening things like a firmament that was created on the second day of creation to divide the waters above and the waters below, it talks about god creating the sun, stars and moon on the 4th day of creation and placing them in the firmament to give ligft unto the earth and other nonsense. . The author whose writing you copied, used scientific knowledge and tried to force it to blend with the bible by changing everything, he talked about clouds of dust, eaarths core etc, things the writers of the genesis myth never knew. . .Christians and Jews that are honest and know better just say it is an allegory, instead of lying to themselves and trying to force what science has revealed to agree with the bible which is actually a dishonest thing to do. . .

ijawkid: And mazaje you also said or scientists said that our earth,the moon and the sun all came about through the formation of Gases...........can you please show us a photograph too of that??............

We don't have the image of how our solar system came about but we can see how other solar systems are forming. . .We can also make calculated deductions from what we see around. . .Take a look at our solar system. . .Where do you take all the asteriods and comets came from?. . .they are obviously a result of the left over materials from super nova explosion that formed our solar system. . .

And have at the back of your mind that what you call explosions aren't just mere random explosions....we've seen how explosions here on earth leads to total chaos and not orderliness.........whÉn the twin tower was exploded new towers werent formed nor was there orderliness.......

Who told you that the universe must behave like the human society?. . .

Someone is behind what ever your scientists are viewing out there..........and you know who that is.........

WHO?

ijawkid: And how does thi§ show that all planetarÝ bodies came into existencÉ through an explosion??........

What is this?. . .Google the images of nebulae taken by the hubble space telescope, you will see that is is obviously an explosion. . .Dust every where, and new stars every where as well. . .You can ever see it from their brighness that they are not so bright. . .The images speak for themselves. . .How the supanova explosion gives rise to new stars is not yet know, even though so many theories are being floated around, but we know that new stars arise after a super nova explaosion, there are way to many pictures taken by hubble. . .

I can see maybe planet earth was formed as a result of the explosion of a star and when that happened we coincidentally found ourselves inside the earth.........

Stars are formed after a super nova explosion. . .The debris and dust come together after many many years to form planets. . .Through collision under the force of gravity. . .An american scietist tried the experiment with grains of salt in outer space, in the international space center. . .he put many gains of salt in a glass bottle, and they all came together and formed a round ball. . .The videos are on youtube

Formation of gas dust as a result of the explosion of a star or stars in no way explains the origin of the universe.........

Who is talking about the origin of the universe, you keep shifting the goal post. . .I was just trying to show Freksy,that explosions do bring about order, since our own solar system came about as a result of the explosion of another star. . .

Maybe you can show us a photo taken 13 billion years back.........can you??......ask your scientists to provide it........

What is this?. . .Scientist have shown images, what have you guys shown?. . .Writings of primitive men that thought the earth was made before the sun?. . .

Freksy: The science of mathematical probability offers striking proof that the Genesis creation account must have come from a source with knowledge of the events. The account lists 10 major stages in this order: (1) a beginning; (2) a primitive earth in darkness and enshrouded in heavy gases and water; (3) light; (4) an expanse or atmosphere; (5) large areas of dry land; (6) land plants; (7) sun, moon and stars discernible in the expanse, and seasons beginning; ( sea monsters and flying creatures; (9) wild and tame beasts, mammals; (10) man.

This is your own making and remains a lie, you actually copied this aplogist material from cosmic fingers website. ..they are the authors making and have nothing to do with what was written in genesis. . .heavy gases, eh?. ..where does heavy gases appear in genesis?

(1) a beginning ....................................................................................................1:1
(2) a primitive earth in darkness and enshrouded in heavy gases and water .....1:2

Day One
(3) light .................................................................................................................1:3,5

Day Two
(4) an expanse or atmosphere ..............................................................................1:6-8

Day Three
(5) large areas of dry land ......................................................................................1:9,10
(6) land plants ........................................................................................................1:11

Day Four
(7) sun, moon and stars discernible in the expanse, and seasons beginning ........1:14-16

Day Five
( sea monsters and flying creatures .....................................................................1:20,21

Day Six
(9) wild and tame beasts, mammals .........................................................................1:24
(10) man.....................................................................................................................1:26,27

You are just lying here and you know it. . .Nothing you have up there reads like what appears in genesis creation account. . .

Science agrees that these stages occurred in the above general order. What are the chances that the writer of Genesis just guessed this order? The same as if you picked at random the numbers 1 to 10 from a box, and drew them in consecutive order. The chances of doing this on your first try are 1 in 3,628,800! So, to say the writer just happened to list the foregoing events in the right order without getting the facts from somewhere is not realistic. To say it is false will make one a blatant liar before others.

Sciences agrees with which stages?. . .the stage that says the earth was in existence before the sun and stars were made?. . .

ijawkid: If you get 1 million dollars make I run naked for road............

Make ona come bayelsa or warri.......make ona just come......

There is a foundation called James randi foundation that has promised to give any body 1 million dollars, any body that can perform or prove any supernatural ability under a controlled environment. . .If you are serious you can make arrangements for your cousins to go there and test their bullet proof juju, if it works they will be given 1 million dollars cash. . .if you are game, you and pour cousins can be invited. . .Go prove the supernatural and earn a million dollars. . .put your hands where your mouth is. . .

ijawkid: What about the ones wey survive the shots??.........besides the JTf's too smelt there heads.........

You are the one lying to yourself and not me........

people survive gun shots all the time, 50 cent survived 5 bullets shot at very close range, same with Tupac. . . i am talking about the bullet not penetrating them. . .that is a lie and has never happend. . .Once a bullet hits its target and the target is not wearing a body armour it must penetrate. . .

ijawkid: So if no be me you no go shoot??...........

I have voluntÉers......if I have to be the one then it means I would be delving intÓ spiritism which ofcourse would contravene my scriptural stance....

Seriouly, I am not kidding, I will come and shoot them on their leg, if it doesnt penetrate, i will drop 10,000 euros and they will also shoot me on my leg. . .

ijawkid: I'm sorry to say this mazaje..but I'll have to say it...........

You must be a grown azz fool to believe in the bolded............

Explosion giving birth tÓ order??.....

Make I laugh my belle full abeg..........

The problem is that we have pictures and images of such explosions taken by the hubble space telescope, do you know anything about a nebulae? it is not something that I believe, it is something that evidence has been provided for, go and have a look at the images that hubble space telescope has taken, and stop yapping like a fool. . .You can see pictures of new stars that formed after old stars explode. . .Kepler has images of new planets forming out of the dust and debris. . .Keep believing in fairy tales that talk about some imaginary deity speaking things into existence in the hebrew language. . .You can't even show any picture or image. . The scietist have their images and pictures to show you of nebulae and planets forming. . .

Logicboy03: You see, Ihedinobi needs to force the lie about being outside time because of the origin of the universe. Time started with the big bang. God has to be outside time if he created the big bang.


Ihedinobi is trapped between the bible and science....he took a scientific god so he could be in the ring with atheists.....

Only that the bible god did not create the big bangg. . .The bible god created the heaven and the earth together in the beginning, before going on to create the earth with water in it before all the stars and our sun together with the moon on the same day. . .The bible god knows nothing about the big banggg and planetary formation. . .

frank3.16:
is crexx now a christian? i thought he used to be an atheist... oboy, whn u repent?

He made the post when he was a christian, he joined nairaland as a christain. . . .

Logicboy03:


I cant wait for Ihe's failed response to this. Majaze has hit the nail on the coffin. The bible says one thing about god, the apoloigist claims another

He keeps going on and on about nothing. . .Firstly the bible NEVER says god exist outside time, that is his own making. . .Bible only says god is the beginning and the end in some places, and that god is everlasting in other places. . .It never says god exist outside time. . .Everlasting and eternal all denote time(un ending time) they are not the same with outside time. . .What does it mean to be outside time?. . .The same god that talks about the future in some parts the bible, eh?. . .Only gods that exist in people's imaginations will allow failures like Ihedinobi to defend their existence. . .

musKeeto: -My words shall come to pass
-and he regretted that he had made man
-i know the beginning from the end
-and god rested on the seventh day

And someone claims this same God's always in the present...

You should hang out with Christopher Nolan. Help him make Inception 2.

Even the bible says that god is the beginning and the end which denotes time yet we have some silly liars telling us that god exist outside of time. .Where in the bible does it say god exist outside of time?. . .The bible says god is eternal which denotes time(endless time). . .Where does the bible say god exist outside of time?. . .I don't know where these goons get their crazy ideas from. . .God exist outside time, where is it written in the bible?. . .

FOLYKAZE: This Section is helpful. I see the lies in Religion and delusion from God. And at the end, I became Atheist

As long as people like Ihedinobi are the ones left to defend christanity and the christian god then more people will only become atheist. . .

Mr_Anony: @Mazaje, I just read your story....
I want to point out just one little detail: You do realize that you were placed in the exact same position as the early christians. They were faced with people totally ignorant of God's gift in Christ Jesus. They didn't just abandon their faith rather they evangelized. As a true christian, you ought to have jumped at the opportunity to share the gospel of Christ.

Perhaps later on in this thread, I'll tell you how I came to become born-again.

God's gift of Jusus christ? Why not Mohammed's final revelation to man kind? Or Shiva's revelation of the truth. . .Religion is nothing but following a people's tradition which are nothing but mythology. . . .They people had their own truth and as such do not need my own truth. . . .