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that your answer is not acceptable.
you are sitting in the fence.
he is ideologically tied to the struggle while making money out of the struggle and living fat (not just well) off the same struggle?
i love that struggle.

it is not a trick question.
you can use a lifeline; call a friend or ask the audience

which successful campaign are you even talking about?
is it the shooting and killing of a defenseless civilian that has been circulating the web?

you have come again.
there shall be no bombardment.
the govt officials are profiting from this criminality.
they will want to maximize the looting at the risk of any bombardment.
try and understand that.

@ poster
stale gist.

Nnabuchi c:
My own view is from a positive side cos i am a positivist, basically we all knw Rome was not built in a day. the world is in a global transformation and it takes time for underdeveloped nations to get to the pase of developing nations, while developing nations are looking forward to be developed as well,  any political scientist will understand wat am saying. Belive it or not from ten years to come u will not belive u are in Nigeria again. peace be on this Land

is this an extract from a novel??

ibime, you can vouch for Asari?

[quote author=Aloy_Emeka link=topic=305465.msg4299599#msg4299599 date=1249413387]Singapore, Dubai, where most structures are owned by Nigerians

Tuesday, August 4, 2009
It is common knowledge that Nigerians are highly enterprising. What may not be generally known, however, is that most of the beautiful buildings on parade in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, and Singapore, are owned by Nigerians. KUNLE AWOSIYAN reports.

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Dubai



http://odili.net/news/source/2009/aug/4/618.html

It may sound unbelievable but it is true that some of the beautiful buildings in Dubai and Singapore are owned by Nigerians.

This was revealed by a team of Lagos State officials who recently returned from the Middle East after a two- week manpower development training in the cities.

Speaking to the Nigerian Tribune at the arrival hall of the Murtala Mohammed International Airport, Lagos on Thursday, the General Manager, Lagos State Infrastructure Maintenance and Regulatory Agency, (LASIMRA), Mr. Joe Igbokwe, said he was sad to learn that some of the edifices in the cities were owned by Nigerians.

“Our leaders have lost tracks and have taken our money to develop foreign lands, leaving Nigeria to decay everyday,” he said.

As he put it, “Singapore and Dubai, these are people we were better than about 30 years ago. Singapore was able to transform from a third world country to a first world country through dint of hard work and the commitment of the leadership.”

“We went there to see how they did it. Dubai and Singapore are now the destinations of the world and the pride of the Middle East. How come the people of Dubai were able to transform a desert to what it is today? That is what we went there to study, we are loaded and are ready to replicate this in Lagos,” Igbokwe added.

According to him, when compared with Singapore and Dubai, the roads in Lagos and Nigeria as a whole are nothing to write home about, adding “we are very far behind. There are massive constructions everywhere in Dubai; the power there is non-stop. If they take light in Dubai, they may not be able to work because of the heat.”

He stated that Nigeria could not progress unless it is able to solve the problems in the energy sector, adding, “We need power and roads to be able to move. Everywhere in Dubai is air conditioned; even shops for ordinary people are air conditioned. They invest so much in the power sector because that place is hot.”

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Singapore
“We have not got there probably because we don’t have that kind of planning and we are not challenged like Singapore. Nothing has challenged us in Nigeria, even the civil war; we learnt nothing from it, which is why we remain like this. I don’t know whether to cry or shed tears. We can replicate what is happening in Dubai and Singapore in Nigeria,” Igbokwe stated.

Corroborating Igbokwe, the Chairman, Lagos State House Committee on Education, Mr. Alawiye King said that Singapore had succeeded because it had invested massively in education.

According to him: “The two weeks I spent in the cities showed how its government had been able to invest so much in human capital and that had transformed into what they are getting today. We have seen massive and aggressive infrastructural renewal in Dubai, we went there to see how they did it in such a short period of time,” he said, adding that he would soon sponsor two bills on the floor of the House on how to move education forward in the state.”


Porto Dubai
The Palm Jumeirah, Dubai's man-made isles, is a 30 square-km island group that took five years to raise from millions of tons of Persian Gulf sand and quarried rock.
To the Secretary, State Consultancy Board, Mr. Lateef Lawal, Singapore and Dubai had stable political system, which had aided their development, saying, “they invested so much in human development and they made sure that they go into real development. The shortest building in Dubai is 25 or 30-storey and they are even going higher.”

He noted that Singapore operated direct investment which it had transformed into heavy development, calling on the Federal Government to learn from the idea. “We should start and concentrate on massive infrastructural renewal. In the area of power, we should not run away from it, we have to go back to our original master plan.

“Federal Government should as a matter of urgency come to the rescue of Lagos State, because there is the need for it to put in place massive investment in the state as the commercial hub of the country,” he said.

The officials were drawn from the Ministries of Physical Planning and Urban Development, Environment, among others while some others were also drawn from government agencies, such as the Lagos State Infrastructural Maintenance and Regulatory Agency (LASIMRA), State Consultancy Board and the Lagos State House of Assembly.[/quote]is this not the same Joe Igbokwe that was writing plenty articles in the papers a while back?
he has joined govt to chop his own portion!! na wa forthis country o.
what did he go to learn there that he did not already know or find out otherwise?
did he need to go there to know that Singapore is in a different league?
the bazaar continues.

day of a thousand laffs

too good you mean?

after all my begging, you are still ignoring me and my questions.
so what should i deduce from your silence?

rasputinn:
Hehehehehehe

Nairalanders no go kill person with laff

Why the fuss about an ordinary sum of 3 billion naira.Though,some senior commanders of MEND have spoken out to dissociate themselves and MEND from that saga,anyone who thought the militants would disarm forever just because of 3 billion and some bungalows has displaced Ali baba as Nigeria's king of comedy.Do the math,how much has Uduaghan been giving the Delta MEND monthly,how much has Sylva been giving them(never mind that he said he's stopped),from these two states alone,they'd have got the 3 billion from just the two state governments in about nine months,not factoring in the endless oil bunkering they engage in with the active connivance of the Navy,plus bank robberies and protection monies from multi nationals etc etc

That aside,MEND still wants to retain a semblance of legitimate struggle for resource control,so without the FG adopting the principle of true fiscal federalism,they'll still give MEND(especially the criminal elements within them,who I guess make up to 97% of the rank and file) an excuse to bear arms and carry out acts of economic sabotage

make God bless you.at least i am not alone in seeing through this charade.
this is pure criminality masquerading as militancy.

tensor777:
@mbulela

Yes you doubt the capabilities of the armed forces to deal a sudden, massive, and decisive blow to the bandit groups operating in and around the niger-delta.

You doubt that these militants would be able to withstand a coordinated combined-arms assault on their positions in the delta.

The only thing preventing the launching of such an operation is the number of civilian casualties that would ensue given the nature of the terrain, not any firepower they bandits imagine the possess.

now you are making sense to me.
a more important fact (not a doubt) is that the govt does not have the sincerity needed in this matter.their hands are stained.
when you have unofficial advisers like Ibori, how you wan take solve ND matter?

the last post was for ibime

bros, leave that small matter attend to my questions.
thank you.

http://9jahiphop..com/2009/08/flexgate-tufacerkelly-scandal.html
end of discussion.

you are off point.

are you sure you are on the same page?
what exactly are you talking about?
what personal problem are you referring to?
which superior power are you referring to? JTF?
is this a joke?

tkb417:
nor mind dem

today wey you try come out from the sports section, na wa o.

how did this get to the home page?

thank you for your mercies.
But for your mercies, i would have been consumed.
thank you for the blood that spoke, speaks and yet will speak better things than the accuser of the brethren can ever accuse me of.
thank you, Lord.

tensor777:
@ mbuela

You are the one coming with a lot of assumptions and negativism about both yourself and your nation. Address your own problems and stop bothering yourself about militants.

try and enlighten me, what is my problem?
what assumptions?
that militant leaders are making millions in the name of a 'struggle'?
that Asari and Soboma (just two examples) are better off today than they were before this militancy began?
that the criminality in the ND is a direct result of this militancy?
that voting billions for the amnesty program, depicts the true intention and purpose of the program?
that Timi Alaibe is one of the problems of the ND, considering the billions that govt has voted to the NDDC with little result, visible to the human eye?
that state govts have been paying militant groups millions (a conservative estimate) and these funds can never be accounted for as it is termed security vote?
that Nigeria is a failed state?
that most of the people proferring solutions to the ND issue are beneficiaries of the stalemate?
which of the above are assumptions and what is my problem and negativity that you refer to?
your kind answers will be appreciated.

thank you for your response but i am not satisfied.
you have not addressed my issues adequately.
asking for the SNC and true federalism to be conveyed is a very generic and vague solution and does not look like a solution profered by a group of persons who want this matter to be resolved urgently.
are there no short term goals that can be set,which will be visible to ordinary folks (like specific development in the ND) which can stand as a pointer that the govt is serious or not in the resolution of this matter?
did you say Timi Alaibe? i am waiting for a confirmation that that was a typo. because in my view, he is one of the problems of the ND.
bros, i repeat that the only ideology evident in this militancy is that of money.
secondly, the crooks in high places (govt officials) are benefiting from this ND militancy, hence do not even want it to end.if it must end, there must be a bazaar and unrestrained looting because the opportunity might not present itself again.
therein lies the reality of the failed state we call Nigeria.
meanwhile, we the people suffer continually.
i still they wait for specific answers to my simple minded questions.
just answer them simply, in addition to addressing my issues raised here.
cheers.

my point still stands.Irrespective of the other faction's comments on Sahara.
in my view, they are all the same. approaches may differ but the uniting thread is the monetary ideology that they all share.
i will reconsider my view if someone can answer a couple of the questions i asked earlier, rather than all these long rhetorics.

they are all getting richer and building houses all over the ND, while encouraging criminality in their rank and file.
which kind just cause be that?
which of them have been able to articulate a solution to the problem?
which of the above named persons or their ilks are poorer in the cause of this 'struggle'?
which of them have not been enriched in the process?
how do they intend maintaining this riches if this 'struggle' ends?
these are questions i will love you to answer.
the only ideology these militants know is money.
all the major militants in ND are better off financially and physically than they were 5 or 6 years ago.
go and figure.
how come ND militant leaders' wealth has risen astronomically within the time of the struggle?
example of the leaders i am referring to are prince Harry, Okah, victor Ben, Asari, Soboma and Ateke Tom,boyloaf,Tombolah and Fara

please devoid of insults o!
if you want us to have a conversation.

ibime, good morning/afternoon/evening (depending on where you are)
could you please address my questions.
i am eager for answers.
thank you.

when una wake up, i will be expecting answers to my humble questions.
thank you.

judicial killing is wrong o!!
we about to create another monster that will consume us.
ND militancy is still pending.

isuomo:
Guys i delibrately stayed out of this thread for a while and allow Nairalanders to pass comments on falsehood, i don't know which AIT is owing 4 months salary because my sister who stays with me here in Lagos and is an editor with the organisation has not been owed a dime in her 23 months of working with the company she has indeed had two substantial increases to her salary and she found it amusing when i pointed out the Saharareporters story to her. My sister was previously CBS in America before relocating after her masters degree just over 2 years ago and i know she will not work for anyone without pay; as we type they have just concluded a recruitment exercise for presenters/newscasters and two of the new intakes came from Atlanta and London respectively and if anyone is subscribed to Daarsat, you should be seeing them on your screens soon.
I love Saharareporters gr8ly and they have had several scoops over the years but on this one i am sorry it is purely a hatchet job. Is Dokpesi my kind of businessman? probably not but he is threading places feeble men dare not and for this he should be helped.
The guy that said AIT is now a platform for PDP, either you dont watch the station or you domicile in foreign climes. Anyway it is good Dokpesi will know what some people think about him

with all due respect, i doubt the authenticity of this write up.
I have also gotten first hand response from staff of AIT who confirmed that salary backlog is not a new thing there.
so who do you answer to that?
new intakes from Atlanta and london for AIT?
i seriously doubt it.
the fact that AIT is in trouble is old gist.
i dare Dokpesi to refute it in any of his responses to Sahara.
why did he ignore that issue?
he confirmed the text message?

my point still stands.Irrespective of the other faction's comments on Sahara.
in my view, they are all the same. approaches may differ but the uniting thread is the monetary ideology that they all share.
i will reconsider my view if someone can answer a couple of the questions i asked earlier, rather than all these long rhetorics.

they are all getting richer and building houses all over the ND, while encouraging criminality in their rank and file.
which kind just cause be that?
which of them have been able to articulate a solution to the problem?
which of the above named persons or their ilks are poorer in the cause of this 'struggle'?
which of them have not been enriched in the process?
how do they intend maintaining this riches if this 'struggle' ends?
these are questions i will love you to answer.
the only ideology these militants know is money.
all the major militants in ND are better off financially and physically than they were 5 or 6 years ago.
go and figure.
how come ND militant leaders' wealth has risen astronomically within the time of the struggle?
example of the leaders i am referring to are prince Harry, Okah, victor Ben, Asari, Soboma and Ateke Tom,boyloaf,Tombolah and Fara

they are all getting richer and building houses all over the ND, while encouraging criminality in their rank and file.
which kind just cause be that?
i beg free me joo.
this amnesty no go work because it is built on a faulty foundation on both sides.

bros, all of them na the same.
prince Harry, Okah, victor Ben, Asari, Soboma and Ateke Tom.
there is no ideology (apart from money) in this 'struggle' (please not the inverted commas).
which of them have been able to articulate a solution to the problem?
which of the above named persons or their ilks are poorer in the cause of this 'struggle'?
which of them have not been enriched in the process?
how do they intend maintaining this riches if this 'struggle' ends?
these are questions i will love you to answer.
i repeat, anyone who believes that these militants are fighting for any just cause is delusional (with all due respect).
they are just capitalising on this failed state we call our country.