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as for me during sunday school i prefer sitting on the front pew so i can hear d preacher and ask questions. but during the main service i love sitting at the d back role

happy sabbath brothers and sisters....
Which is your favourite position during a church service? In front where you can see the pastor very clearly? in the middle row? or at the back or extreme of the church? do you prefer to sit beside same sex or someone of the opposite sex?

MyJoe: This is a topic I am interested in. Can you please oblige me with how you came to know this for certain?

the egyptians were black people. just go through ancient paintings and manuscript. but the issue of a black Jesus am not sure. but one sure fact is that Herod during the time of Jesus was a black man. so that will tell you that blacks were a strong people up until the ist century.

tales by moonlight

Nigeria... a very RELIGIOUS COUNTRY.

redsun: Bad leaders don't come from good people,they come from bad people.The leadership of a country is the reflection of the people as a society.The same reason why nigerians burn their fellow citizens alive for stealing petty things like loaves of bread is the same reason why they have evil leaders.

A typical nigerian can be seen in the person of bluetooth that sees himself as a saint,but going by his utterances,he is an evil incarnate.

so can you describe nigeria based on what you just said

Alfa Seltzer: banned for using caps lock

funny you

since am the first to comment, let me start by giving my own description.
Nigeria- GOOD PEOPLE, GREAT NATION, BAD LEADERS

Describe nigeria in simple and understandable context.

no one knws wer he is?

JEEZ..... ARCHBICHOP OF WHERE

Good News!!!!! ASUU strike has just been called off. I'm watching it live on the cartoon network.....

frosbel: Some people think there are 2 Gospels !

yeah....i see it also....buh i discard them because they are total heresy...no need arguing with them

frosbel: Correct , but the other way round, the Gospel is the good news of the kingdom and we cannot be a part of the kingdom until we believe that Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose for our justification into the kingdom.

on point....so thread closed

please where is OBADIAH777? is he fasting just checking in the wellbeing of a brother

Kirinwa: I want to commit suicide.Am tired of life.All my efforts are going down. I need advice on the best way to kill myself.I have no friends to cheer me up.

if you cant succeed here on earth, what makes you think it is easy overthere?

i dont think there is reason for any argument. the gospel is talking about the birth, the death and the resurection of Jesus Christ and hoping for the kingdom of God to come. so believing in the death and resurection of jesus Christ and hoping for God's kingdom to come is the gospel. that was what all the apostles were preaching about

DrummaBoy: It was about a week ago while studying scriptures that God opened my eyes to Romans 14. I call that chapter the end of all tithe argument. The first thing I grasped from that chapter is that there are some doctrinal issues in Christendom that is not worth sweating about. They are just as Jesus said in Matthew 23:23, incidentally he was talking about tithe, not weighty issues. On such matter Paul advices that he that does them; to the Lord he does them. He that does not do them; to the Lord he does not do them. Whoever does or does not do them is not condemned. This applies to tithe too. He that tithes and truly does it to honor God, to God he does it and he will be blessed. He that does not tithe; and believes tithe is extinct and obsolete and that if he tithes he is keeping the law and fallen from grace; such an individual does it unto the Lord. And, believe it or not, he will be blessed because he does it in faith.

Now the tone of your first comment is why I asked you the question. You said at the last day, every man will receive what is due. What such a statement means to me is that though in one hand you allow liberty to tithe or not; in another hand you choose to judge those who do or who do not. Your position will be known if you truly can answer this question: Do you tithe? And why do you or do you not tithe?

Now I brought up the question of Romans 14 for a number of reason.

1. Majority of those who tithe do not belong to the category Paul is talking about. Those who tithe and belong to these category are those who are truly honoring God with their finances with a basic minimum of 10%. The majority of others are doing it to keep church rules; to be blessed; to make heaven; to be acceptable to Pastor; and out of sheer ignorance. Those who do this are not doing it in faith and are sinning against God.

2. Romans 14 births the reality behind the tithe: there is liberty to tithe or not to tithe. The question of paying tithe is heretic because it makes nonsense of what Jesus has payed for on the cross; it return us to Moses who demanded that tithes be payed to levites. ETC. If it was a question of giving tithe; then there is the allowance made to do it or not to do it. Many leading churches make the paying of tithes prerequisite to full membership of their assembly. This is sin. People should be permitted to decide whether to give or not to give.

3. Romans 14 permits us to define the tithe for what it truly is: a means of sustaining the levithical priesthood that is now obsolete and thus the tithe is also obsolete. If anyone chooses to give a tenth of income or whatever, such an individual is embarking on a free will offering; however, a constant one.

So I have tried to paint the true position of Romans 14: a liberty to do or not to do in regard to not-weighty matter of Christendom. If this liberty is changed to compulsion, we have bondage in our hands.

This also leads us to the reason why the tithe is opposed by many today: abuse. If Christians are permitted to choose to do what they want with their finances, this abuses will reduce. The lifestyle of our pastors today, fueled by inordinate collection of tithes, is not congruent with the way leaders of the NT lived. So, some of us argue that the tithe be shown for what it really is; Christians should be permitted to give as God leads them; and let us see what becomes of our fatted pastors (many of whom are fatted likes calves to be killed).

hmmmm you are on point. thanks

striktlymi: Nah mehn...you want equal rights for every child (in terms of the sexes) but say NO to the right of the child to life?

Blood transfusion is completely different...it's just like saying anyone who is against homosexuality must necessarily be against heterosexual relationships...it does not follow.

The view point you expressed is your own take on the matter which I respect as such but it is still far from acceptable, in my books...

Accepting IVF in its present 'form' is the same as accepting abortion, amongst some other implications...because for now, the way it is performed, suggests the death of at least one embryo.

If as a Christian I CANNOT accept abortion, then I CANNOT possibly accept IVF.

k...i respect your opinion. and it still remains your opinion.

i am not against IVF, because IVF in itself a miracle and it serves as a solution to issues. so am not agaimst it. if you are against IVF then you should be against blood transfusion. Even in the UK and some other advanced country it is against the law to use IVF for the determination of sex. it is discrimination all child should have equal right because they are the same. so i am against IVF for sex determination because it is discrimination.

frosbel: But what makes this so so laughable is that, this is the same Jesus Christ that Muslims purport to belive in ONLY when it suits them. Hypocrites !!

So you are blaspheming your prophet Jesus, what a time waster !

God bless you

its ok if its not used for sex determination

praise Jesus

DrummaBoy: Please kindly how this applies to the OP question.

IT'S SIMPLE, IF THE OP BELIEVES IN GIVING THITHE LET HIM GO ON, IF HE DOESNT BELIEVE LET HIM GO ON EITH SUCH BELIEVE, HE SHOULD ONLY REMEMBER THAT ON THE LAST DAY, HE WILL GIVE ACCOUNT TO GOD AND NOT MEN. WHATEVER YOU DO IN CHURCH OR AS A CHRISTIAN, IF YOU ARE DOING IT WITH FAITH GOD WILL REWARD YOU. PLS READ THE WHOLE CHAPTER 14 PLS TO GET INSIGHT TO WHAT I MEAN

Jesus never belonged to any religion. infact he attacked the religion of the day. @mahdinho you stil ruuning away from questions asked. why is it that it is the sane way tha abdu'llah prayed to allah is the same way muslims pray to allah

Romans 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

Sirniyeh: PEACE to you all my co-Nairalanders,
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It's universally believed that a learnered is not easily deceived! For this reason, I'm very much optimistic that most of the religious misleading or advertising fictions posted on this forum can never trigger you atall.
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Newton Isaac says, "I climbed the shoulder of the people before me, and I saw things differently and clearer. This enhanced my innovative mentality and today I'm being celebrated."
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From the quote, it means you can remain with same belief, same practice and thinking, and not be celebrated or achieve anything or not progressing until you make a move. So ever since I encountered the above quote, my perception about life general changed and I discovered that "nobody can speak or talk or reason beyond the level of his or her understanding."
Newton met some heroes before but he chose to think differently and became a great inventor. The fact that many were in same religion before you does not count.
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We are in Nigeria and anybody can go to any lenght to promote his or her religion but we should not relax and allow some fictions post here to demoralise our inbuilt potential which is the BRAIN - the determinant of everything that happens to you.
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It's unfortunate that many never ascertain the goal of God for such blessed asset. The question is, why did God give you (personally) brain? Ponder over it again and again and post your own view here!
1. Human Brain is the Spiritual engine of the entire life. Consider birds and animals, they live, function, grow, mature, progress and recreate in consonant with the inbuilt ability.
But mankind makes themselves different.
The undilluted fact you will hate to hear is that, "the day human creation is completed, we are endowed with resource (BRAIN-MIND) to funtion and replenish.
We have been endowed with power to dominate all, technologically and spiritually. So man was endowed with sophisticated brain so that He could REST.
2. Every thing on this earth is the product of human brain. (Think of it!). All technological and scientifical inventions are products of human brain. Bible as well is the product of human brain but thats what many will not like to hear.
3. If you really understand this life well, you will know that all the stories of hell or bad dreams or demons or evil forces, that many ignorants propagate are trashes.
4. What brings suffering to human life is BRAIN not Satan nor Sin. Every individual will be dominated by the influence of his or her brain.
5. Prayer is answered through right, critical, innovative and proactive thinking.
In Nigeria, religion has deprived a lot of people to enjoy the best from their inbuilt asset. Religion has changed their mindset entirely. Religion has made people to loose focus of original mandate ascribed to the Brain.
6. The REAL YOU is the BRAIN inside of you. If you know that you can not live outside of your brain, you need to develop it. Think wide. Dont be entangled by what your religion professes.
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Before I got married, I used to have seveal bad dreams like masqurade chasing, eating, spending money, and s-e-x in my dream virtually every week to the extent that s-per-m will be released. I kept it to myself alone but studied myself to effect changes. When I married, my wife had same challenges and today we are blessed with children, houses and cars without consulting any third party but as result of critical and innovative thinking. We dont belong to any society either religion or cult but we live free life.
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The civilised countries think more on technology but we black devote all our resources on irrelevant religion. Many never ascertained that the cause of their limitation is their Religion. For this reason I call your attention to ask yourself, why did God endow me with this free natural asset?
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All contributions are welcome!
Do you thing if you dont go to church or mosque you will not survive? Challenge me with any question, read to answer .......

y did you ad to single out the bible when there are numerous religious books out there. are you against xtianty or religion

presiade: Malachi 3:10a says: 'Bring you all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat(food) in My HOUSE...
Psalms 68:5 says: '(God) A FATHER to the FATHERLESS, and a judge (defender) of the WIDOW, IS God in His holy HABITATION (HOUSE).
James 1:27 says: 'Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the FATHERLESS (AND MOTHERLESS- ORPHANS) and WIDOWS in their affliction [NEEDS]...
By all the foregoing scriptures, can we conclude that paying Tithes is not limited to church; tithescould also be taken to a motherless homes and to widows so that there would be much food in God's house (since God is the Father and defender of Orphans and widows respectivelym their houses must therefore, be God's) You get the logic?
NOTE: I want a serious discussion on this topic not just vain babbles.
Thanks.

Romans 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. 14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

Ghydyon: **yawns** can sum1 tel me wats going on

be born again....Lord av mercy on us

blink182: songs with christian lyrics be it worship, praise, rock, juju, afrobeat, pop, grunge, gothic, jangbajugunu, classical and the rest.

THEN THAT SHOULD BE EVERYDAY AND EVERY MOMENT COS VIRTUALLY ALL SONG AV JESUS OR GOD IN IT'S VERSES

hello pls what are christian songs? and what are aongs that have christian lyrics?