obadiah777:dunno man, never really got into all that star wars. star trek, attack of the clones sci fi type stuff. i was always grounded even as a kid. anything not grounded in reality i was not interested in. but zombies being clones is what is happening today. all over the world everyone is an american clone. big brother africa, nigerian idol, nollywood etc etc etc. mark of the beast zombies.
YAP....UNDER THE MODERN DAY BABYLON. TOP OF THE MORNING TO YOU TOP SIR.
I aint feeling all the vibration ish or new thought ancient wisdom.
where exactly do we draw the line?
If I wanna learn about God, he has provided us with his holy scriptures. If I wanna learn about other things I know where to look, but I don't go looking for trouble. lol
God has a way of directing our path to learn what we need just as I met with Obadiah.
[b] ezekiel chapter 1, it is the establishment of the era of the gentiles. the writer was in the first cherubim or the first beast called the chaldeans or the ancient babylonian empire. and looking forward to the rest of thebeasts they have to go through before they are redeemed by christ. the empires are as such>>>> babylonian>>>>medopersian>>>>>greek>>>>roman. those are the 4 creatures.to get a better understanding this same set up is explained much easier in revelations chapter 4 and 5. the book of revelation runs parralel to the book of ezekiel. they roughly say the exact same thing. so the chrubims are the empires. the 4 empires. the last one the roman empire is described as an eagle. what is the symbol of almost all caucasian countries ? the predatory bird. the eagle. all spiritual sire. behind everything you see in life there is a meaning. nothing is coincidental.there is a reason why the british people use lions and americans use eagles as their coat of arms.[/b]
1 In my thirtieth year, in the fourth month on the fifth day, while I was among the exiles by the Kebar River, the heavens were opened and I saw visions of God.
2 On the fifth of the month—it was the fifth year of the exile of King Jehoiachin— 3 the word of the Lord came to Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, by the Kebar River in the land of the Babylonians.[a] There the hand of the Lord was on him.
4 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.
10 Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a human being, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle. 11 Such were their faces. They each had two wings spreading out upward, each wing touching that of the creature on either side; and each had two other wings covering its body. 12 Each one went straight ahead. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, without turning as they went. 13 The appearance of the living creatures was like burning coals of fire or like torches. Fire moved back and forth among the creatures; it was bright, and lightning flashed out of it. 14 The creatures sped back and forth like flashes of lightning.
15 As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the ground beside each creature with its four faces. 16 This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like topaz, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel. 17 As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not change direction as the creatures went. 18 Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around.
19 When the living creatures moved, the wheels beside them moved; and when the living creatures rose from the ground, the wheels also rose. 20 Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. 21 When the creatures moved, they also moved; when the creatures stood still, they also stood still; and when the creatures rose from the ground, the wheels rose along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
22 Spread out above the heads of the living creatures was what looked something like a vault, sparkling like crystal, and awesome. 23 Under the vault their wings were stretched out one toward the other, and each had two wings covering its body. 24 When the creatures moved, I heard the sound of their wings, like the roar of rushing waters, like the voice of the Almighty,[b] like the tumult of an army. When they stood still, they lowered their wings.
25 Then there came a voice from above the vault over their heads as they stood with lowered wings. 26 Above the vault over their heads was what looked like a throne of lapis lazuli, and high above on the throne was a figure like that of a man. 27 I saw that from what appeared to be his waist up he looked like glowing metal, as if full of fire, and that from there down he looked like fire; and brilliant light surrounded him. 28 Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the radiance around him.
This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. When I saw it, I fell facedown, and I heard the voice of one speaking.
I WAS EXPECTING YOU TO QUOTE THIS CHAPTER BECAUSE I WAS ALSO THINKING LIKE THIS BEFORE. BUT THE CHAPTER IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS..... THE EAGLE,LION,MAN AND OX. ALL MEAN SOMETHING ELSE. OR WHY DO YOU THINK ALL BRITAIN AND CO USES THIS SIGNS FOR THEIR COAT OF ARM
obadiah777:we shall leave that now till we get there but it is not a rainbow. thats why we need real bibles not NIV. here is the verse >>>> genesis 8 vs 13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. , bow not rainbow and why would he curse the earth again ? cuz of sin, only this time he will use NUKES >>>>>> 2 PETER 3 VS 6-7 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. <<< NUKES
Genesis 8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
obadiah777:we shall leave that now till we get there but it is not a rainbow. thats why we need real bibles not NIV. here is the verse >>>> genesis 8 vs 13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. , bow not rainbow and why would he curse the earth again ? cuz of sin, only this time he will use NUKES >>>>>> 2 PETER 3 VS 6-7 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. <<< NUKES
pls we are derailing from the thread...... we should be talking if gen ch 1 and we are already un the noah era.....
ok...... what is the meaning of the rainbow in the story....
Genesis 8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
Uyi Iredia: But seriously >>> obadiah can you explain how you concluded that Negroes are Jews >>> are they part or the original >>> are you serious about this !?
Song of Solomon 1:5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon. Song of Solomon 1:6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept. Job 30:30 My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat. Lamentations 5:10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.
THOSE ARE THE LITTLE I COULD GET NOW. BUT WHAT I WANT OBADIAH777 TO EXPAIN IS HOW HE CONCLUDED THAT JESUS WAS BLACK.
trekkie: i love this book. i learned a lot about office politics but i think the most profound thing i got from the book is " do business with your family as though they were strangers and strangers as though they were family" soooo true
i have to go and dust that book and read again. thanks for reminding me of one of the books that was a pleasure to read.
gosh so so tru. after reading the book. i had to start up my business far frm home. it realy pays
this thread is created to discuss what we learn from reading the book titled the mafia manager by V. what did you gain from reading it, how as it affected your life, relationship and business? and quotable quotes that has helped you so far. you dont know who you are helping
Due to political correctness your thread had to be migrated to afganistan (the Islam section) where it will be deleted eventually. Political correctness means that the likes of Abu Al Zakawi are allowed to lambast Christianity and Jesus Christ but it is not permitted to expose their frauds like the one I posted below:
Very clear! I could even interpret that myself. Lol
From your 3rd post
The only question here is:
Both the sea and dry land are below heaven (Adam) right?
It says “let the waters under heaven be gathered together in one place” – A portion I believe.. “And the dry land appear” – another portion, still under heaven, right?
If the dry land is without God’s knowledge, what’s the difference between them and the sea? Is the sea the enlightened once amongst them as seen in Vs 2-5?
From your 4th post
This makes a lot of sense considering the different race and colours of people we have.
What exactly does the doctrine stand for? I know you mentioned it somewhere talking about the tower of babel but I can’t remember right now.
From your 5th post
Hmm…
Quite clear. I had heard somewhere before that when God said “let there be light” that it was knowledge – illumination that keeps illuminating the earth.
Is Matthew 5:16 in line with this?
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
From your 6th post
OMG!
It’s like I am reading this part for the first time.
True! How can moving creatures and winged fowls come forth from water if that verse was to be translated literally?! We just read and jump lines without reasoning. Chei!! See…my ignorance o. Q: These are real animals right? I see where their evolution theory came from. Big bang indeed! Hehehehe
From your 7th post
Hmmm…
Good one there. It makes a lot of sense. He gave us dominion over both the leaders and the followers.
From your 8th post
Wow! See illumination.
Oh my!
Jeremiah 1 9 Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth. 10 See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.
Is this in line? Talking about God touching his mouth – his word and about seed – planting – fruits…
Talking about fallen angels…
My imagination is running wild here based on what we understand angels to mean.
Fine: angels are messengers. Aside the human angels; how do other angels, archangels, Cherubim and Seraphim come in?
There verses you quoted in 2Pet 2:4 and Jude 6 talk about “to be reserved unto judgment” and “unto the judgment of the great day” respectively sound futuristic…
Is there still a form of judgment we are looking forward to (invasion of the gentiles) or It’s talking about specific people among us
Kindly explain pls….
Thanks so much sire, you have been of tremendous help. I have to stop here now, I will continue later. I am also looking forward to chapter 2.
Guys, don’t mind the typos. I am also sorry I couldn’t quote Obadiah directly, na poor internet cause am.
Thanks.
nice questions. wow so comprehensive. and i should say a big thank you to mr obadiah the edomite. we are just doing the will of God 1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
obadiah777: THE ALMIGHTY KJV SIRE. ANYTHING LESS IS BLUNT . IT HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH. THERE IS A REASON FOR THE NEWER VERSIONS. IT IS TO REMOVE ALL TRACES OF THE NEGROS BEING JEWS. IN THE NEWER VERSIONS ALL REFERENCES TO NEGROS HAS BEEN CHANGED TO PROMOTE WHITE SUPERIORITY
but the kjv also was also tampered with....an example is 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. what is the reason for the ist verse when the second verse said it all. it is in a bid to support trinitarian doctrine. how i wish the bible wasnt translated from its original or latin language
obadiah777: verse 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. THESE ARE THE SPIRIT TYPES. ONE IS GREATER THAN THE OTHER. ONE IS ON TOP AND ONE IS BELOW. ONE IS THE RULER AND ONE IS THE RULED. THE RULER IS THE SPIRIT OF ADAM AND THE RULED IS THE SPIRIT OF THE GENTILES. SO THESE ARE SPIRITS NOT ACTUAL HEAVEN AND EARTH. HEAVEN IS RULERSHIP AND EARTH IS BEING RULED
verse 2-5 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. NOW HERE WE ARE DEALING WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE GENTILES ( EARTH ). NOW IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHILE THE SPIRIT OF BOTH ADAM AND THE GENTILES WERE MADE AT THE SAME TIME, HOWEVER THE BODIES OF THE GENTILES WERE MADE BEFORE THE BODY OF ISRAEL AS YOU WILL SEE WHEN WE GET TO VERSE 24-26. SO BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE GENTILES WERE ON EARTH LONG BEFORE ADAM CAME ON EARTH. THERE WERE GENTILE CIVILIZATIONS BEFORE ADAM WAS MADE. THE NATION OF ADAM WAS NOT THE FIRST NATION OF PEOPLE ON EARTH. SO ANYWAY BACK TO THE VERSES. NOW THE EARTH WAS WITHOUT FORM AND VOID AND WAS IN DARKNESS MEANS THE SPIRIT OF THE GENTILES WAS EMPTY.HOWEVER THEY WOULD NEED EMPIRES TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE OTHER EMPIRES JUST AS WE HAVE TODAY WITH ONE EMPIRE ON TOP OF THE OTHER. THESE EMPIRES ON TOP CANNOT BE IN DARKNESS. THEY NEED SOME WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE GENTILE FORM. THIS IS THE LIGHT THAT WAS CREATED IN THE LEADING EMPIRES OF THE GENTILES TO SEPARATE THEM FROM THE REST OF THE GENTILES GETTING RULED WHO WOULD STILL BE IN DARKNESS. THE GENTILES RULING ARE CALLED THE FOWLS OF HEAVEN WHILE THE GENTILES BEING RULED ARE CALLED THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD OR THE FISHES OF THE SEA.
the heaven and earth were made on the same day, and based on this explanation, the heaven is the ruler while the earth was the ruled. why didnt the heaven control the earth so that they will work in accordance to their will and if adam was made later, who were the heavens bfor adam came. i believe my questions are straight forward.
Christianity Etc › Re: Exigesis Of Genesis Chapter 1 by mcfynest(m): 9:39am On Aug 21, 2013
