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First Samuel is correct in stating that the high priest was Ahimelech. On the other hand neither was Jesus wrong. When we take a closer look at Christ’s words we notice that He used the phrase “in the days of Abiathar” (v. 26) which does not necessarily imply that Abiathar was high priest at the time David ate the bread. After David met Ahimelech and ate the bread, King Saul had Ahimelech killed ( 1 Sam. 22:17–19 ). Abiathar escaped and went to David (v. 20) and later took the place of the high priest. So even though Abiathar was made high priest after David ate the bread, it is still correct to speak in this manner. After all, Abiathar was alive when David did this, and soon following he became the high priest after his father’s death. Thus, it was during the time of Abiathar, but not during his tenure in office. Abiathar was a high priest during David’s reign as king, and he is mentioned some 29 times in the Old Testament in relation to his priestly role. Those familiar with the Hebrew Bible in the 1st century (when The Gospel of Mark was written) would easily connect Abiathar to David, so Mark 2:26 is merely reminding readers of the time frame of David’s eating the consecrated bread. The words “the high priest,” coming after “Abiathar” are just his title, much like we might say, “When President Obama attended college, he made many friends.” Obama was not president while he was in college, but whenever we mention Obama, we refer to him as President Obama. |
Nadheer15:you said Samaritans are keepers or observers of the truth. My question to u is this:What is this Truth they keep and observe? |
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Nadheer15:In your attempt to wiggle the Qur'an out of the problem of having a Samaritan in the time of Moses, you just ended up introducing another error into it. You said Samaritans are keepers or observers of the truth... Bet you don't even know that theTruth they keep or observe is the Torah. How do you explain a Samaritan in the time of Moses who is a keeper or observer of the truth(torah) when there was no Torah yet ![]() ?? .. |
truthman2012:@Demmzy 15 receiving 1000 lashes. ![]()
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I need someone to kindly help explain the word taqiyya? Thanks!!! |
Honestly, that's the result of too much copy and paste in the quran. Samaritans in the time of Moses? Joke of the century!!!! |
DeathStroke007:
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Pray for Christians In iran |
The number of Muslim converts who are risking prison or death by secretly worshipping as Christians in Iran’s house church movement has grown to as many as 1 million people, according to watchdog groups. The London-based Pars Theological Center is training at least 200 Iranian Christians to become the next generation of Iran's church leaders, the Christian Post reported . The persecution of Christians has persisted in Iran since the 1979 rise of the country’s theocratic Shiite Muslim government -- with Christians facing the threat of death, lashing and torture. About 100 Christians currently remain imprisoned under Iranian President Hassan Rouhani's rule.www.foxnews.com/world/2016/03/07/irans-secret-christian-movement-grows-with-help-from-abroad.html |
nasiayam:www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=6&article=784 |
true2god:God bless you real good for this. Honestly, those guys are confused. But they still quote from the same weak hadith if it favours their argument. |
DeathStroke007:In 36 C.E. uncircumcised Gentiles were first accepted into the Christian congregation. Though God had prepared the apostle Peter for this dramatic event, Peter and those with him were amazed to see holy spirit poured out on uncircumcised people. (Acts 10:1-16, 34-48) Many other Jewish Christians found this hard to take. In fact, some Jewish Christians, “supporters of circumcision,” criticized Peter for associating with uncircumcised people.— Acts 11:2, 3. Why were these critics disturbed? Because for almost 2,000 years, circumcision had been a sign of a special relationship with God. When Jehovah God commanded Abraham to have all the males in his household circumcised, He said: “It must serve as a sign of the covenant between me and you . . . to time indefinite.” (Genesis 17:10-13) Many centuries later, circumcision was still very important to the Jews. Many of them felt that uncircumcision meant uncleanness. (Isaiah 52:1) They felt that God’s holy people should have no dealings with unclean, uncircumcised Gentiles. In 49 C.E. the apostle Paul was confronted in Syrian Antioch by some of these “supporters of circumcision.” At the end of his first missionary trip, he reported to the congregation there how God “had opened to the [uncircumcised] nations the door to faith.” It seemed clear to him that there was no need for these people of the nations to be circumcised. Certain men from Judea, however, had a different opinion. “Unless you get circumcised according to the custom of Moses,” they asserted, “you cannot be saved.” They felt that circumcision was essential for salvation and that all Gentile converts to Christianity had to get circumcised.—Acts 14:26–15:1. Strong feelings were involved. No doubt they mustered persuasive arguments to support their opinion. How was the peace and unity of the congregation to be maintained? After there had been much discussion of the subject, the congregation in Antioch “arranged for Paul and Barnabas and some others of them to go up to the apostles and older men in Jerusalem regarding this dispute.” (Acts 15:2) There was no suggestion that in a matter of such gravity, each one was entitled to his own opinion. These Christians had enough humility and loyalty to theocratic order to seek an authoritative decision from their central teaching body.—1 Corinthians 14:33, 40; James 3:17, 18; 1 Peter 5:5, 6. A Decision Made The apostles and older men in Jerusalem (obviously recognized as a governing body in the early Christian congregation) carefully examined the spirit-inspired Scriptures and reviewed how holy spirit had directed things over the previous 13 years. Their decision? For Gentile converts, circumcision was not a prerequisite for salvation. (Acts 15:6-29) Here was a clear directive to take the place of personal opinion. The congregations that heeded this guidance “continued to be made firm in the faith and to increase in number from day to day.” (Acts 16:4, 5) Some persons, though, did not accept the governing body’s decision. They were still convinced that their opinion was correct and that complying with the Mosaic Law was essential for salvation. What would you have done? They became a dangerous, divisive influence among Christians. Take a look at the counsel given by the apostle Paul over the next 15 years as he tried to protect faithful Christians from the influence of such stubbornly opinionated ones. Galatia, Asia Minor, c. 50-52 C.E. The freedom gained by Christians through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ was endangered. Fear of persecution by Jewish enemies made some Christians want to impose precepts from the Mosaic Law on fellow Christians. (Galatians 6:12, 13) The apostle Paul reminded the disciples that to take up such Jewish practices as circumcision would be to let themselves “be confined again in a yoke of slavery.” Since they were sinners, none of them could keep the Law perfectly, so they would be condemned by the Law, just as the Jews were. Only Jesus’ sacrifice could make them clean and save them. “If you become circumcised [and thus become obligated to perform the whole Law],” Paul said, “Christ will be of no benefit to you.”—Galatians 5:1-4; Acts 15:8-11. |
Rilwayne001:Same way Mohammed copy and paste the quran abi? |
Are Martyrs Spared or Will all Muslims go to Hell? The following passages of the Qur'an support the general Muslim belief that the martyrs go to paradise immediately: And if ye are slain, or die, in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass. And if ye die, or are slain, Lo! it is unto Allah that ye are brought together. -- Sura 3:157-158 Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord; -- Sura 3:169 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme. -- Sura 9:111 On the other hand, we read also that, There will be no one of you who will not enter it (Hell). This was an inevitable decree of your Lord. Afterwards he may save some of the pious, God-fearing Muslims out of the burning fire. -- Sura 19:71-72 Or as Arberry translates it more literally: No one of you there is, but he shall go down to it; That for thy Lord is a thing decreed, determined. Then We shall deliver those that were god-fearing; and the evildoers We shall leave there, hobbling on their knees. -- Sura 19:71-72 This verse tells clearly that all Muslims [everybody] will go to Hell, (inevitable, decreed, determined) and only some of them will eventually be rescued from Hell, while others will be left there forever. Obviously, it cannot be that all go through hell (Sura 19:71) and that martyrs go directly to paradise, being spared hell, and "they live (present tense), finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord." Besides being contradictory, Sura 19:71-72 must be incredibly disturbing to Muslims, who can only look forward to go to Hell when they die. Side remark on Sura 9:111 stating that "theirs is the garden: they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, [b]through the Law, the Gospel [/b]and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah?" -- There are no such passages in the Torah or the Gospel which promise paradise to those slain in a military battle for God. This is another false claim in the Qur'an. I am not sure there is even any such concept as us fighting a military battle for God. It is usually God who fights for us. God is much more powerful and glorious that he needs our weapons or strength to fight for him. |
In a discourse about John the Baptist, Jesus honored the prophet with these words: “Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist” ( Matthew 11:11a ). John certainly did not see himself as “great”—he did not see himself as worthy enough to baptize Jesus ( Matthew 3:13–14 ) or even to carry His sandals ( Matthew 3:11 ). The “greatness” that Jesus refers to concerning John has to do with John’s unique position in history, not with any special talent, holiness, or personal merit. In fact, immediately after stating that John is the greatest “among those born of women,” Jesus says, “Yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he” ( Matthew 11:11b ). More on this paradox later. One reason that Jesus called John Baptist the “greatest” was that John held the honor of being chosen by God as the forerunner to the Messiah. John’s mission was to personally prepare the world for Christ’s arrival. John’s ministry was predicted in Isaiah 40:3 and Malachi 3:1 . After Jesus came, John introduced Him to the world as the Lamb of God who would take away the sin of the world ( John 1:35–36 ). John was the herald who introduced to the world the Hero of all history. It was this introduction that accredited Jesus before the Jewish crowds and leaders, some of whom believed on Jesus, and many of whom did not. John was also the “greatest” in that he preached with the power of Elijah ( Luke 1:17 ; 3:7–18 ). John shared many qualities with Elijah , including calling a nation to repentance, rebuking the king, and persevering in the face of public misunderstanding and malicious persecution ( Matthew 11:16–18 ; Mark 6:14– 19). John was also the “greatest” in that God had chosen him to break the 430 years of divine silence that had existed since the prophet Malachi. John was the Spirit-anointed bridge from the Old Testament to the New. John was the last of the Old Testament prophets and stood on the cusp of a new dispensation. His preaching was the end of the Law and the beginning of the Promise. He was the last in the long line of prophets who predicted Christ, yet he was the only one who could actually see Christ in the flesh. Moses, Isaiah, and the rest of the prophets had pointed to a far-distant personage they could see only faintly. John pointed at an actual human being who stood directly in front of him. No other prophet had that privilege. Jesus’ full statement in Matthew 11:11 is paradoxical: “Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.” How can John be the greatest, if even the “least in the kingdom” is greater than John? Again, the answer has to do with the Christian’s unique position in history, not with his personal merit. John died without seeing the fullness of God’s plan in Christ (see Mark 6:17–29 ). John never saw the crucifixion of Christ or His glorious resurrection. Yet even the “least in the kingdom of heaven” knows of these events and understands their meaning. The baptism of John was insufficient to save (see Acts 18:24–26 ; 19:1–7 ). The disciples of John in Ephesus needed to hear the whole gospel, not just what John had taught. They needed to be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus, the one John had predicted. They needed the baptism of the Holy Spirit. John was truly the greatest prophet of his era—the Old Testament time—yet all Christians today have a fuller perspective on the work of Christ.(got question. org) |
meixili:
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meixili:So u still get mouth to talk after that piece of trash u call quran has been rubbished by Johnny.... Anyway Sha, I wish u quick recovery.
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meixili:Answer my question ?? Please now...... |
I meixili:Stop deceiving urself with ur greetings of peace. The Bible is not corrupt, pleeeeeaase answer my questions? I'm waiting.... |
meixili:Question 1: If the Bible was corrupted, was this before or after Muhammad? Question 2:If before, why does God tell Muhammad to refer to a corrupted Scripture for guidance, and why does he say of the Torah and Gospel ‘wherein is guidance and light’ rather than ‘wherein there used to be before they were corrupted’? Note: Current Scripture translations are all based upon manuscripts that predate Muhammad? |
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HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!! Ur Islamic utopia aka paradise of porn is worse. |
ifenes:Wow! I thought I would find the name of Jesus on the list, but I never did.BIG SHAME ON YOU! Christians are not followers of pastors or priest but of Jesus. And why is Mohammed not on that list after all what he did to 6 years old aisha? HYPOCRITE!!! |
YourMain:So you think king James wrote the Bible? He only translated it to English. Anybody can translate it into any language of their choice. But the Bible still remain pure in its original greek/Hebrew form, the many versions you see today are English translations. |
DeathStroke007:Nope! Blind man = Mohammed who received the entire Quran from an angel(demon) or why would God speak to Moses personally and yet send an angel to tell Mohammad( Islam's greatest prophet) his most important message to Muslims ![]() ![]() ?? |
plappville:The guy is soooo dumb to see dat you have answered is question. |
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BETATRON:Your problem is dat u think u know d Bible, but you don't. SON is used literarily or sometimes metaphorically so u can figure it out for yourself. Infact you putting David in a bracket for psalm 2:7 shows dat you case is so pathetic. And your 1 chro 22:11 does not exist in my Bible. Act 13:33 had explained Psalm 2 even b4 the birth of islam. It is important to note that the phrase "only begotten" in John 3:16 is not the same Greek word that appears in Acts 13:33; Hebrews 1:5 or 5:5. The phrase "only begotten" comes from the Greek word MONOGENES which means that Jesus is the unique or "one and only" Son. MONOGENES occurs only five times in the New Testament: John 1:14; 3:16, 18; Hebrews 11:17 and 1 John 4:9. When we come to the word "begotten" in Psalm 2:7, we enter into a different arena of meaning. Here is Psalm 2:7, I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, ‘You are My Son, Today I have begotten You. Ps. 2:7 (NASB) As you have indicated, this Old Testament passage is quoted in Acts 13:33; Hebrews 1:5 and 5:5. The Hebrew for "begotten" is YALAD and the lexical meaning is "to bear, beget, or bring forth." The three New Testament passages help us understand how it should be understood in Psalm 2. For example, in Acts 13:30-34 we read, But God raised Him from the dead; and for many days He appeared to those who came up with Him from Galilee to Jerusalem, the very ones who are now His witnesses to the people. And we preach to you the good news of the promise made to the fathers, that God has fulfilled this promise to our children in that He raised up Jesus, as it is also written in the second Psalm, "YOU ARE MY SON; TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU"“ As for the fact that He raised Him up from the dead, no longer to return to decay, He has spoken in this way: "I WILL GIVE YOU THE HOLY and SURE blessings OF DAVID." Here we discover that Psalm 2:7 was a prophecy that Jesus would return to life. That is, He would be resurrected. He was "begotten" or was "brought forth" (notice that is an acceptable meaning of the Hebrew word) from the grave. The root Greek word is GINOMAI and the tense of the word used here is a perfect active meaning that it is completed action in the past and had continuing effect to the time Acts 13:33 was written. That is, Jesus' resurrection was so certain that it was spoken of as already having occurred. Hebrews 1:5 and 5:5 do not provide the explanation of Psalm 2:7 that is given in Acts 13:33 but merely quote Psalm 2:7. Only Acts 13:33 provides the explanation. Also note that GINOMAI is translated as "begotten" only four times in the New Testament: Acts 13:33; Philemon 10, Hebrews 1:5 and 5:5. So there are two key Greek words that are sometimes translated as "begotten" in the New Testament. This can be, a cause of error for many like @BETATRON. And lastly pleeeeaasee kindly do a research on JESUS AS THE SON OF GOD AND JESUS AS THE SON OF MAN and I can bet u won't bother christians with verses you don't understand anymore. |
How can you cut off something you cannot create. Barbaric!!! |

