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Ok, so how come you lump all Igbo states as one and try to compare them to Lagos only? Why not other SW states?
Lagos has the pop, seaports, fish in th sea, huge industrial base. Now tell me what Igbo states (or one specific Igbo state) have/has that is comparable

I know you are laudate and I said you could be the op. I have not changed that notion. Thanks

KB,

I do not understand when you say Lagos has nothing and Igbo states have something. Please mention specifics. Thanks
Plus, please tell me how you would compare Igbo states to other SW states (ex-Lagos)

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Please in what development indices? Rivers yes, in some. Akwa Ibom and CRS No. Please provide proof in relation to available resources. Thanks

You are the one comparing Lagos and Igbo states. I asked you why you do so and why not other Yoruba states? So now I ask you the basis for the comparison. Stop confusing yourself, ok?

Ezeuche dont be deceived. KB =male=Laudate.

Kobojunkie:
For anyone to compare Lagos with a state such as Imo state(for instance) one would have to come up with a way of matching resource levels here. I mentioned earlier that compared to states in the East, Imo included, Lagos has NOTHING. So how can I then make a fair comparison there?

I only pointed out that Lagos was doing great for a state seriously limited in terms of the level of resources available to it. The current governor has been able to acheieve quit a lot in just 2 years and so is blazing the trail for development in Nigeria.

Bull. If Lagos is limited in resources, then Igbo states must actually be starving of resources. Apart from human resources, please mention some of the things Igbo states have that stand them out and thus should make them develop more than others. Lagos has far more human resources than individual Igbo states (=more tax), the presence of the FGN, the fact that oil companies failed to relocate their offices to their sites of production, the seaports, etc.

Ibime:
Igbo states are lagging behind in infrastructure - an effect of long and premeditated neglect of the area by the FG. You cannot expect an Igbo state to boast the same kind of Infrastructure as Lagos, PH and Abuja who have received more than their fair share of Federal funding. . . . on any other level, Igbo states are comparable to all other states we have in Naija.

Excellent summary of the situation. Thanks.

kb,
What resources did you list that abound in Igbo states?

PLEASE ASNWER ME STRAIGHT. WHY DO YOU COMPARE IGBO STATES TO LAGOS STATE? WHAT ABOUT OTHER SOUTH WEST STATES?
+TO WHAT EXTENT CAN YOU SEPARATE THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT EXISTED IN LAGOS AS A FORMER FED CAPITAL FROM THE CURRENT ONES?

Most Nigerians including people like kobojunkie expect individual Igbos to develop Igboland. That is good. But they must also do same for individuals from other parts of Nigeria. That said, it is on record that Igbos are among the few Nigerian ethnicities that carry out community development projects independent of the FGN or state govt. The Imo airport is a case point to a large extent. Plus several innumerable water and electrification projects that communities have taken on without recourse to state or fed govt. Can this be said of other states?

Kobojunkie

before you go on ranting, you will remember that I have not compared any Igbo state to Lagos. I have always put Lagos aside. Why are you comparing Igbo states to only Lagos? What happens to the other Yoruba states?

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What resources did you list that abound in Igbo states?

wazobia200:
This Mekusxx guy with his ethnic agenda. Na wa for this guy. He need serious help for real!!!

Before you run your stu-pid mouth, pls do well to educate yourself and no where this thread is coming from here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-449388.0.html

Kobojunkie:
Dude, I posted the link the link to the indices you claim do not speak well of Nigeria but those show that Nigeria has seriously improved compared to past years. Not sure what indices you continue to refer to here.

Are u not ashamed that you compare Ibo states with states that cannot even boast of half the resources obtained in Ibo land? Lagos has NOTHING compared to any of the states in Ibo land yet the state continues to blaze the trail . Even with supposed past works of the federal government in lagos, Lagos has been able to own most of the development in that state. The current governnor has been able to, in a period of 2 years move that state to a state that generates 75% of it's revenue from taxes which it in turn uses to rebuild the state, and you are here thinking making fun of Yoruba makes the situation in the East better somehow? Can you compare the resume of the current governor to that of Orji or even Obi in the same period?

What do you mean Lagos has nothing? So all the tens of millions of people paying taxes and generating the revenue with which Lagos is developing are nothing? Lagos gets the largest chunk of money aside the main oil-producing states -of which the igbo states are non-and certainly gets the largest VAT share. Your argument is terribly lame. What do the Igbo states have? Some oil in Abia and Imo? And oil and gas not being explored at the moment in Anambra. What else? Ondo, Bayelsa, Edo and Cross River are also oil-producing states, are they better than the average Igbo state?

RoadStar:
I believe the topic is about igbo states and not yoruba states.

Thanks mr mekuszyx for your statistical input.

More contributions like that.

Thanks. BUT you are not quite correct to assert that the topic is not about Yoruba states. The OP made a direct comparison btw Igbo states and Yoruba states, and so brought yoruba states into the equation

I have asked him to define what he meant by development
Does he mean human development?
Industrial devpt?
Insfrastructure devpt?
Or what? It will help his argument and lead us on on how to respond.

No Yoruba state aside Lagos is more developed that Enugu, and in terms of industrialization, Anambra and Abia trounce them, except of course Lagos which is not atypical yoruba state. New posters should endevour to look for existing topics similar to what they have in mind to post before exhibiting their ignorance. These things have been discussed over and over again.

yemmight:
1st in education? I laugh in kwenu. So many ibo boys are vice/chairmen of so many garages and parks in Lagos.

Ignoramus. So many YORUBAS are almajiris, motor park touts and beggars. If you find 10 beggars of Igbo origin in naija, you will find 1000 Yoruba and some 5000 hausa/fulani. FACT

I direct you to these sites (being populated)

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-237534.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-373873.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-36515.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=355230.msg4968328#msg4968328
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-371485.0.html

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=449644.msg6077071#msg6077071 date=1274540981]A constitutional recognition is the only way through cuz in the long run,the south may have itself to blame if power slip to the north either democratically or by force through military intervention.it's just 4 years of tolerance for the south to let the north rule and power return to the south.i just dont trust those northerners when it comes to power[/quote]Is this the same Bluetooth (BT) that I know or another one? BT and Fhemmy and others like Kobojunkie opposed all the ideas and suggestions I raised on this topic. This is a very dramatic turn around and belies the lack of principle of some people. It is always good to stand for what you believe in and not be a convenient flip-flopper.

As for the topic, I have always advocated for rotational presidency (RP) in a country such as Nigeria. I repeat that RP is the surest way that an Igbo, Yoruba or SS person can rule Nigeria-except by a dint of luck like Jonathan's case. The only other ways will be by the north anointing a southern candidate of their liking, e.g., ObJ, or the thoroughly divided south finds a way of coming together-something of a big dream for now given the traditional Yoruba-Igbo political bickering. If those who support the PDP now fail to support the truth about the party zoning agreement, we will have no right to do so when it gets back to the North and they decide to keep it for LIFE. By then, when you protest, they unleash the northern-dominated military on you. Another alternative will be via electing from another party but the rest parties, as we know them today, are as good as moribund. I also support 100% the notion that RP should be constitutionalized and  not be left to the whims and caprices of the players of any specific party.

SEFAGO:
We are talking of bayo ogunlesi.

Bloody liar. You went and quoted Sjeazy8 (yourself). Your initial post was in response to mine on Kase. You aint smart, really.

Ok never heard of Kase too until now. 50=50

Ok, I am done with prasing or not praising others. I should be singing my own praise. Who the hell are FRONTERS Lawal and Offor, anyways? Ok I responded to let Sefago know that Fronter Kase has an Igbo fronter equivalent-Offor

Bayo Ogunlesi? I will soon find an Okoro equivalent for him. Hhahahah!

And who does not know Emeka Offor in NAIJA? May be only you. He is fronting for the other crooks much the same way as Kase Lawal.

Kase Lukman Lawal was born in Ibadan in 1954. He obtained his Bachelor of Science in chemical engineering from Texas Southern University in 1976, and his MBA from Prairie View A&M University, Texas in 1978. He is the chairman and chief executive officer of CAMAC International Corporation and chairman of Allied Energy Corporation in Houston, Texas, Chairman/Chief Executive Officer, CAMAC HOLDINGS;[1] vice chairman, Port of Houston Authority Commission. He also serves as a member of the board of directors and is a significant shareholder in Unity National Bank, the only federally insured and licensed African-American-owned bank in Texas. Lukman Lawal was a member of the National Republican Congressional Committee's Business Advisory Council and, in 1994, he was a finalist for the United States Business Entrepreneur of the Year.

SEFAGO:
^ A first class at Oxford in PPE, magna cumlaude at Harvard


Basically top class brain. Mekusxyz would never reach that level lolz

I know say Yoruba like to claim-one my problems with them. Did Kase attend those schools you mentioned? Do you want some googling on him? Stop lying.

SEFAGO:
However Offor is not in the same class as Kase Lawal. Stop comparing apples to oranges mekusxyz

Sefago

How do you classify both Kase and Offor? Make a table and fill the spaces. Lets see.

Moreon Emeka Offor
http://www.ocnus.net/cgi-bin/exec/view.cgi?archive=101&num=25989

He appears to be rich and well connected even in the US like kase LAWAL, though both are fronters.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=449247.msg6074191#msg6074191 date=1274477976]I guess he also fronted for CLINTON and BARBARA BUSH.omg,what do you call a businessman,mekus ?[/quote]A business man is somebody who does business. It is not defined by who actually owns the business. Both Lawal and Offor are fronters but I also expect them to be intrinsic part of the business after fronting for so many years. It is good for them, though, they are employing naijas.

Katsumoto:
Mekussxxxx = Udezue

Udezue seems to have the same arguments as Mekusxxx. Interesting

Hhahahahhahah! You must be blind then

Still on Emeka Offor

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=emailform&id=2041

Emeka Offor's company is also based in Houston as well as holding the franchise for oil exploration in Sao Tome and Principe

Sjeazy8. I have no business with both Lawal annd Offor, but we all know they front for the real people. BTW, Emeka Offor is also ranked as a billionaire in dollars. Read Sahara reporters.

One of Emeka Offor's Companies. But he is in the background

http://www.erhc.com/

http://elendureports.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=167
http://elendureports.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=119&Itemid=1