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talantolo:
Good evening house,

My hubby is curently in the UK as a student and I'm also in the UK as his dependent his student visa is going to expire in March, 2021. Now he wants me to apply for asylum in scotland. I don't know on what storyline, i just need an advice if it's a safe route to consider or i should just shut his idea. Please I'm in dire need of urgent advice

Every action or intended action in life has a reason. Can we know why he came up with this idea.

Is he not qualified for post study visa?

IvanCardozo:
@justwise and gurus in the house. Please help me.

I did biometrics last week, 4 days later, i got NSF mail demanding for employment and education documents since i graduated in 2011. I had declared 2 US student refusals and 1 canada permanent residence rejection in my application.

But when i applied for UK study, i used only my BSC and didnt include MBA since the bsc is sufficient to get admission. when UKVI requested for additional documents, i sent in my employment letter, work ID, CV, Payslip and bsc certificate (which i uploaded during application). i didnt send my MBA documents as i felt it wasnt part of application.

Now i got another NSF mail but this time, they're not requesting for any docs. Please what should i do? could it be because i didnt declare my MBA?

No, the NSF mail has nothing to do with your MBA. They need more time to review the documents you have already provided.

Atimes NSF mail is used to buy time.

samorobo:
Knowledge on what exactly?

Reality every guy should know ( Strictly redpill)

If my messages do not appeal to you.

Just assume I am a woman or a troll and ignore them.

Those that will get it will get it.

samorobo:
What is this thread all about?

It is all about knowledge.

Meedon:
Ehen about using keke to enter airport, that one deh na. Every Akoki with him own kettle.

That was a figure of speech. It means that you followed a friend to an airport without knowing that he had a private jet and that was why he was going to the airport in the first place.

He will simply enter his jet and fly off while you will stranded at the airport with your keke.

Meedon:
Ehen if they are hypergamous what do you now expect us to do?

(ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL)

With emphasis on the above in bracket

If a poor redpiller is to choose between a first daughter from a poor family with 5 younger siblings OR a last daughter from a rich family with 5 older established siblings, which one should he go for?

Men just move around looking for families to provide for to answer good inlaw.

I hope my question answers your question.

I stated that women are promiscuous in nature. That sounded unbelievable to some people.

Yet in most females anonymous groups, the major thing they discuss is their promiscuity. They expose themselves and hail each other.

I am surprised that something our forefathers knew is still a debate today.

What do you think was the origin of female circumcision?

Female genital organs were mutilated to limit their sexual urges to encourage virginity and fidelity.

In patriarchy, virginity, fidelity and absolute respect were packaged as a reward for the provisions from men.

If you are interested in a girl and all you can provide at that point is a great body and a functional dick, provide it. It is good enough.

If she wants more ( like meals and vacations) let her provide the resources. If she is not interested, carry your body and go and keep developing yourself.

Men will not hear.

Junnior:
I was just really curious ..... I'm not yet sure if he's a troll or just confused

I am not a troll neither am I confused.

Read between the lines and get my message.

Like I said earlier, the root problem is environmental.

Nigerian men develop what I call "relationship shock" when they date in saner climes.

As a young man, anytime you enter a relationship, provide what you have at that point.

Just your body is good enough to start with.

If you are a poor redpiller, build a good frame and start associating preferably with young, beautiful well-to-do female simps.

This world is not easy.

Mind the advise you take from people around you.

Nigeria is a deeply polarized country wealth wise

There are billionaire kids and lekki boys here. You might not fall into that category.

Any knowledge you pick here, apply it to your personal story.

Life is short, 50 years is closer than you think.

Do not use your keke to enter airport with someone that has a private jet.

I have been a silent reader on this thread for years till I decided to share some knowledge.

I have been called a troll, a woman and all sort of names.

My conclusion is that men are simply not ready. We really do not know what we are up against.

I wrote that men are hypergamous in nature and someone said it was a blunder.

Men please prepare yourself for the future.

Jeff Bezos wife, one of the wealthiest woman on earth is currently married to a school teacher, isnt that hypergamy?

The Nigerian men that dumped their Nigerian girlfriends to marry foreigners for papers and better life opportunities, isn't that hypergamy? For the record a lot of these girls are top notch professionals not the obese women we see atimes.

The house husbands in USA that take care of the home while their better qualified partners work and bring in the money. Isn't that hypergamy?

This life is hard and short. Have knowledge and explore your opportunities when they present themselves.

1. Sacrificial love does not exist. Both males and females love opportunistically.

2. Males and females are both hypergamous and promiscuous in nature.

3. No one ( man, woman, children) is loved unconditionally. You must provide something.

4. Men that think they love idealistically are simply ignorant.

5.Everyone is dispensible.

6. Men erroneously associate beauty with innocence.

Lordcassy:
They are trying to little to conceal the fact that they are women.....when you have to no logic it will be glaring to wise....

men are hypergamous, what a blunder!!!...

Told my friend we all had a good laugh...

I guess the issue is environmental.

Most if us are in Nigeria, the poverty capital of the world and thus both gender have limited opportunities.

If you move to a saner clime and evaluate the class and status of ladies you have access to date and marry, you will understand my viewpoint.

There are a lot of house husbands in USA currently.

Let's agree to disagree.

abeeee:
(Please note :Religious reference is for better understanding of point only)


The fact is that only men can love (mind you I don't mean the shitty Disney thing) I mean love a it is supposed to be like God loving humans

That's why love is sacrificial ......I mean God loves humans and provides for them .....he even gave his son to die(sacrifice) but on the other hand, we cant love god back as some persons may paint ......we can only respect, serve, obey, fear and follow him
Even persons who propagate loving God will tell you same when you ask them how you show love to God .....because normally you can't show God love ......there is no care you can give........he existed and will always exist without man .......so it is him who loves and so therefore love only flows from top to bottom and respect goes the opposite way(bottom to top)
That's why the bible always charged men to love their wives and asked wives to respect and submit to their husbands........so the its God ----> man ----> woman -----> children (in the deist family structure

And if you watch you will find that its why women love their children so much they can sacrifice for them as against their husbands ........
If you even watch in the bible God always talked about perons he loved as person who feared him "he has the fear of God"

This is why I personally shake my head when I hear things like respect is reciprocal ....hehehe........brothers respect can only flow one way and its up
What supposed equals can show to each other at best is just cordiality ......it is only sad that the true meaning and idea behind lots of things these days has been changed by current systems

Anyway I just wanted to say a little on the can't love matter some persons are confused about

Maybe I go begin dey write small small now

God sacrificed his Son for us. That is pure sacrifice because we do not have the capacity to pay him back.

Women love their children more than their husbands because as the kids grow, the relevance of her husband drops significantly.

The kids provide the necessary companionship and when they start hustling, they will provide for her. They also live longer too.

Men are simply not prepared for the future.

abeeee:
Do you even know what hypergamy is ?

Okay brother please what is hypergamy ?

Hypergamy simply means marrying up.

There is a reason why I put it this way

ALL HUMANS ARE HYPERGAMOUS IN NATURE.

There is another term you have to understand before you understand my submission there

SMV = Sexual Market Value.

Tonnyray:
It's one reason I don't blame those who have excused themselves totally from the whole marriage matrix, but if you as an individual intends to marry, you have only ONE job, FIND HER.

To find her is not hard. Just take the following steps.

1. Continually improve yourself to increase your sexual market value. This will exponentially increase your female admirers.

2. Make a list of all the girls that choose you.

3. Divide that list into the girls you like and the girls you do not like.

4. You will now be left with a list of all the girls that choose you that you like.

5. Review all of them and choose the one that is most beneficial to you and start off a relationship.

What do our providers do

1. They learn how to provide.

2. They find a girl they like

3. They start providing.

webhead:
it's almost impossible to find these kind of women

They are everywhere but you need a STRONG FRAME to spot and keep them.

A frame build on a deep rooted knowledge about women. The same knowledge our providers are not interested in.

Keep sacrificing.

Associate only with girls that continually improve your lives and reward her with a FRACTION of your benefits.

Let me break it down in monetary terms ONLY for simplicity.

If my association with my girlfriend earned me 5 million naira in a year and I used 2 million naira to take care of her that year ( 40%). That is a beneficial relationship.

There are a lot of things you can gain from a woman but the most important is a loving stable environment that will make you succeed in life.

Your woman should be taken care of using a FRACTION of the successes in your life that she is responsible for.

There are millions of men living their best lives because they associated with the right women.

The right woman will encourage you to success, give you peace of mind and raise your kids right.

Redpill gives you the knowledge to associate better with women and helps you to always maintain FRAME.

Jessepaid:
hehehe...


This matter don tire me I swear...



Both genders both male and female (I don't want to use the word love) become attached emotionally with whatever and whoever satisfies you their positive emotions eg. emotionally security, the feeling of being wanted, affirmation of self worth etc...


When these needs cannot be satisfied, it's natural for a person to move to where he finds more value...


For a person to hold on even after realizing that value can no longer be added is not entirely sacrifice...

Investments, memories, loyalty and gratitude can be at play..


Under the right circumstances most people will abandon you, maybe a shoot out, drive by, fire, life changing opportunities etc... All man for himself..



I believe that for a person to be tagged as sacrificial in a relationship context...


It's what's the person gives up to be with you that seals the the sacrifice...


Not what the person gives to you. This applies to both genders...


If gun men stopped you and asked for your phone..

Smart people would just hand it over, thus sacrificing the phone to save their lives which means they love their lives...

The ones that do it in reverse end up sacrificing their lives for their phones


You hate Nepa bills and that fvcking bleeping prepaid meter..

But you like to take a shower after work, eat a meal, turn on the AC and flip through cable tv...

So you sacrifice your money monthly to ensure that the feeling of being posted up after work is always available...



Anybody or any gender can be sacrificial when they want to be...


Some people sacrifice their money,

Some their dreams...

Some their time..

Some their health..

Some their very existence to get the continued satisfactory feeling they get from whatever or whomever they get it from..


Love is not constant..


Love changes...



Responsibility is always confused with love because they require giving up something to get something...


I dont know what you are sacrificing today in your relationships..

But whatever it is...


Don't simp..



Women are like crypto...


Very volatile...



Invest only with spare cash..

People give up whatever they give up in a relationship because they believe they will gain more. That is not sacrificial.

If I give up my phone to save my life, that is not sacrificial but opportunistic because my life is worth more than my phone.

If I fail to give up my phone and I lose my life, that is sacrificial because my phone is worth less than my life.

emmaodet:
Let us even assume you are right with your “men love opportunistically and are selfish”
But then, in the process of loving a woman, he makes VISIBLE and TANGIBLE impacts in the life of the woman. Can we really say that about the average woman?
Yes, to you men are selfish yet he places her on monthly income, showers her with gifts, sponsor some to school, take her abroad etc. what else can a human ask for? If that is not Love enough then what else?
You can hardly date the average woman out there and after a year you do an appraisal and see what she had done.
If it is sex, they both helped each other. If it is prayer, advice, emotions support, the man is also giving her.
You also said in one of your comments that men have self esteem issues reason while they date ladies below them instead of going for there mate - are you really kidding me? With one mouth, we scream women are hypergamous, in other words they won’t date a man they perceive their mate or below them. They will look down on him and not respect him. He won’t be attractive to them. There was a thread last week were ladies were commenting they hate broke struggling guys approaching them. Another thread a claimed she is earning far above her hubby and he has to step up and move his ass if he is to earn the respect and head of the house blah blah blah.
It seems you are a lady and this may be my last comment to you because it seems you are not here to learn anything rather push your points.
What a mama needs in life is “Rest of Mind/Peace” and not another competition at home with his said wife who is regularly telling him to measure up instead of helping or support. Most women at your level won’t give you the rest you need after the daily pressures of life because they will be rubbing shoulders with you at home.
No reasonable man will want to settle for less.
If given the opportunity and my rest of mind, peace, respect guaranteed, I will always choose a presidential daughter to the average common street girl.

We all love to GAIN. Everyone.

The problem is understanding your actual gain. That is where knowledge comes in.

If you set up a girl economically in exchange for sex, it means you value sex with her more than your financial investment in her.

You believe you are gaining subconsciously.

That is not sacrificial love. Sacrificial love occurs when you actually believe you are reaping less than you invested.

Humans are simply incapable of that.

Lightway:
Mentholated

Your points are top notch.

Love is a social construct

Men don't fall in love

Don't deceive yourself.

You can never love a woman

Honestly, this is the most educated thread on nairaland for me. I agree with most of your points.

ma373733:
Not really all animals have the instinct to procreate sha.
I still get you .

Human instinct evolve to protect our selfish interest. The moment that interest becomes irrelevant, that instinct dies.

The instinct to have children is slowly dying in developed countries because their government offers them the protection they need till death.

ma373733:
Another claim without facts to back it up

How do they love Thier children opportunistically? Elaborate

Why do women have children?

Why do women abort their children when the situation is not favourable for them ( women).

Women worldwide have children for selfish reasons.

The interest of the child is barely considered.

An extremely poor couple will still desire to have kids for their own protection without considering the best interest of their children.

If a woman is 100% sure that she will not benefit anything from a child, she will never have that child.

Women worldwide have children for companionship, protection and a sense of fulfilment.

All self interest.

ma373733:
Not really it happens when there's no reciprocity from the other person as expected.

Women in general invest so little men are very sacrificial I'll repeat that again again

The only time women are sacrificial is just having a child that's why they love Thier children .


Men love women women only love Thier children sacrificially

I'm still waiting for his stat
Men have higher rate of heart breaks because they can't easily move on due to Thier sacrifices towards the relationship .
Men have highest sucides half of them are relationship related .

Men have a higher rate of heart breaks because they are generally more ignorant than women in relationship matters.

Women love their children opportunistically.

ma373733:
I have told you to bring data and stats to back your claims

You're playing logic
We all know those who have the highest heart breaks between men and women


Its simply because men love sacrificially that's why women are so much in control in relationship games
After all she didn't make any tangible sacrifice




I repeat men love sacrificially


Men love sacrificially

Women love men opportunistically men usually interprete women's submissiveness as love


Women only love their children I repeat

Women only love their children
because that's the only time she has to be sacrificial


Bring your stats I have been waiting for it

Heart break occurs when men and women heavily invest in ignorance.

ElasmoBranchii:
I took my time to educate myself on what emotions are. That is why I like discussion like this. This is what I found out
"Our emotions are controlled by a group of brain structures called the limbic system. The limbic system releases chemicals which spur on our emotional states. The type of emotion we feel depends on which chemicals have been released. For example, the hormone oxytocin allows us to experience feelings of love"



Please read this
https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20131125/how-the-love-hormone-works-its-magic



"When we are intimate with someone, oxytocin, also known as the "love hormone" is released into the body "during intercourse and other forms of intimacy," Dr. Sal Raichbach"

"Oxytocin release causes the sense of trust and makes us miss our partners. People with high levels of testosterone may probably not feel the connection, because this hormone suppresses oxytocin activity."



Love is an emotion how does it teach?
Are you sure your understanding of love isn't based on the western fantasy which you attack.
I never knew you were meant to love one woman your whole life. Men of the past didn't love like that.



Love exist and just as any other emotion is caused by neurophysiological changes.

A man's love is unconditional
A woman's love is conditional

A man loves a woman just because she is a woman
A woman loves a man cause of how he makes her feel and what he provides.

An ignorant man loves a woman just because she is a woman.

A knowledgeable woman loves a man cause of how he makes her feel and how he contributes to her progression in life.

An ignorant woman loves a man just because he is a man.

A knowledgeable man loves a woman cause of how she makes him feel and how she contributes to his progression in life.

CaveAdullam:
Nice summation!

In addendum: The intersexual dynamics, will not say it is complicated but wide and contains a whole lot of nuances that must be understood and puzzled together in order to ensure a successful relationship or have a good knowledge of its framework and mode of operation.

For anyone to mention that men and women are hypergamous by bringing up some absurd linear equation (emotion + knowledge = Hypergamy) is funny and at same time, stupid!

Mr light like I said before has a point, but the framework from which he is defending it is not appropriate.

Hypergamy got two sides: alpha fvcks beta bucks which is rooted in the feminine psyche. He is concentrating on the beta bucks side and how men are exploited which is true. What about the Alpha Fvcks side--- the genuine desire we talk about? That women fvck broke dudes? That women fvck bad boys? We all know that these alphas, jerks or don juans does nothing to win a woman's heart, it just happens! If that's the case, what do we say it is if it is not an emotional attraction called love?

Men love, women love, but how they express this love differs. I agree with Mr light in the aspect of simping, the beta portrayal of love by media outlets and the ignorance men are being led. Withal, this shouldn't stop us from saying what is true as present until a better knowledge arrive.

Thanks.

PS: Lordcassy, my lord I sight you!

No human either male, female or hermaphrodite is capable of unconditional love.

We all love to GAIN.

The real value of this GAIN is limited by our knowledge and exposure.

Humans are naturally selfish which is essential for human survival.

No human either male or female is capable of sacrificial love. We all love opportunistically.

Whenever we invest anything into something, we hope to get MORE in return, either cash or kind. That is being opportunistic.

If I spend a million naira annually on my girlfriend, it means I believe the relationship is worth more than a million annually. That is not sacrifice, that is opportunistic.

Earlier I advised men to keep developing themselves so they can always get what they want and also know the real WORTH of what they are getting.

All humans are hypergamous in NATURE. Redpill guys are hypergamous and opportunistic in all their dealings with women without even knowing it.

All human relationships are transactional whether you like it or not and your aim is to reap more than you sow irrespective of the sacrifices you think you are making.

Enjoying the best years of a woman is hypergamy.

As you understand female nature, the first thing you will notice is a gradual change in the type of women you associate with. Your redpill lens will only deal with women that are beneficial to you.

The benefits with time will keep getting better as you realise the REAL VALUE of what the women in your lives are offering.

If you are a young business man, you fall in "love" and marry the daughter of a business tycoon and that association brings you great success. That is your hypergamous nature at work.

Lordcassy:
You guys are allowing a woman in the name of light to derail the thread been coming to check all I see is her bluepill sympathizing sycophant B.S....if you read well, you will see the total absence of logic...

Men love sacrificially
Women love Opportunistically

New redpiller focus....

Stop quoting

Men love either opportunistically or ignorantly never sacrificially.

What we term sacrificially is opportunistically plus ignorance.

Guys, we are all here to improve our knowledge to be able to make better decisions. Let s try to understand each other's post before we criticise.

Both gender are hypergamous by nature.

Both gender are promiscuous by nature.

The key word here is NATURE not how society now forces us to view things.

SIMP= Emotion+ ignorance+ hypogamy.

Redpill = Emotion + knowledge+ hypergamy.

We all aim to marry and associate up AS HIGH AS WE CAN GET.

For centuries men controlled the wealth and social status in the world, this made the hypergamous nature of women more obvious.

For centuries men used a lot of social structuring to keep female promiscuity in check like

1. Body shaming
2. Female circumcision
3. Financial dependency on men

NATURALLY both gender are hypergamous and promiscuous.

hazard7:
What's this argument on love about? Love is an emotion and emotions come and go. Like cave Adullum pointed out with the excerpts from researches and articles about both gender being capable of love.

Am a keen observer and I notice that most women consciously or unconsciously chose their path but the thing to note here is there is a reason behind their action which is shocking since they are the emotional beings. The obvious reason is Hypergamy, then there is peer pressure and herd mentality, The emotional trauma they had when they were still young and naive and got their heart broken, or the biological clock ticking and urging them to get the best genes out there with better mate financially and genetically to ensure the safety of her and the children. Seems like an excuse but who cares? Since my exodus into the red pill and going to the anger phase, I have come to admire women a lot not for the beauty but their ability to seize opportunity without a moment thought.They are not the most intelligent but the most cunning at getting what they want with utmost efficiency. Look at women in your area or life in generally riding cars that was bought for them, wearing expensive wigs, clothes, gadgets for just simply existing. How many men can boast of this things apart from yahoo boys and other offline and online hustlers. Women love they do, your mom who is your first love showed you that. And it's concept is best found in the theory of chosen which sums everything up.

Men, the pioneers of our civilization, he chose logic over emotion which is the best choice but it came with it's relapses which is the inability to control and understand our emotions. You want to know whether men love, well look no further from the front page of nairaland and see the various question like the how do I make her love me? or she cheated on me but I love her? or the how do I get her back? and likes which are annoyingly increasing as the days go on. You want more look no further than this very same group with each member bearing a psychological scar, for what crime exactly just in the name of love (except for the outliers of course, those lucky bastards lol) and do not confuse the providers with the lovers and vice verse. Keep in mind the statistics of young men committing sucides or enduring gruesome pain for the women they love. Men love and we love deeply allowing our being which is our very essence of life to be consumed by this emotion called love.

I noticed the underlying fact is low esteem, men don't believe especially Nigerian men that you can get a woman without money. You look at the other half of the table and you see average girls getting their pick of men, men that are richer with expensive rides and you start to wonder how that is possible. How can a 18 year old girl make a 35 year old man kneel down to beg her to be his girlfriend just because she is woman, an average woman for that matter (abeg no be juju be that).

That's why I always admire the cunning and ruthless nature of women, they know the game and know how to not only survive but thrive also. The red pill is the only thing helping most of us here and had helped most of us or we would still be chained to our lust and desires forever being a servant to whims and order of women. This days most enlightened men haven seen the moral decadency of the society have learn to love (if we can call it that) through calculated system checking for demand and supply, profit and loss and asset and liability.

AUTHORITY: The world is a muddy, scrappy and ruthless affair especially in our modern era. Learn to put yourself first. Study women and don't hate them cause they have their uses. Remember, the mosquito biting you is not it's fault but yours since you that refused to cover up yourself with something. Hope you get it if you did not get it forget about it.

NB: It might look like am supporting the feminine imperative but the thing is I wanted to buttress my point without bias and the utmost clarity so if you feel like there is something wrong. Feel free to reprimand and correct me without insults. If you are emotional abeg no quote me cause no be me go follow pig enter mud.

Cc
Martinez39, Cave Addulum, skepticus, emmadoet, luminous and other members.

Emotions + ignorance = love

Emotions + knowledge = hypergamy

Both gender are hypergamous in nature. Hypergamy is what secures your happiness in a relationship. Hypergamy is based on knowledge.