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Guys I have a confession, I cannot hold it anymore......



I'm Kanye West.....😭😩



Make I drop account number, make una contribute for my new album

Sultty:
u mean "kanyechukwu ipob developer" importer and exporter

Isn't it too early to be a morøn, at least you could've waited till noon.

Octopusssy:
As for you, NaijaMemes aka Logicboy aka, stalking, gutter bred, sociopathic internet troll that has refused to grow up despite the appearance of grey hair in parts of your plague addled anatomy, I will not roll in the mud with the pig that you are . Keep looking for the attention naptu2 has refused to give you. You ain't gonna get it from me

Vawulence chapter 213 vs 99 ( Queen James version )

If vawulence be for me,
who can be against me,
For without vawulence,
Comrade is nothing.
I beseech thee, My beloved comrade,
in all your doings, let vawulence be your watchword.

Why won't Buhari smile.


He has seen failure that'll surpass his own.


He already knows the swear that's waiting for Baba Gazelle Gagaraga at the end of 4 years.


Infact na the swear dey make am smile.....

jahsharon:
You will weep for the next 8 years s you have wept over the last 8 years

Hi, my name is attention, I heard you were looking for me.

Kion:
what if it was all planned with winston and Bowery king
To fake his death and disappear
Remember johnwick wanted to get out of the game to get his freedom
We didn’t actually see him die or scenes leading to the grave ….dey play

Prior to defeating the Marquis, the only way out for him was death.

Immediately he defeated the Marquis, he was already free, whether or not he died.

Which means there was absolutely no need to fake his death, and even if he did fake his death, it was not for the purpose of gaining his freedom..

The Harbinger already told him that his obligation to the high table is satisfied.

Baddestguyp:
what twist?

Mr Nobody had no choice but to kill Wick after he was threatened...
But yet during the poker game he kept saving Wick

He even saved Wick during the journey to the duel venue to increase his bounty?
Then later decided to kill Wick
Then he chose to save Wick again after Wick saved his dog from the situation he put the dog in

Aren't you leaving out the part where Mr Nobody told Marquis to increase the bounty price after John saved his dog?

Abi no be you talk am before?

If to say the boy get yansh and breast.....And as him dey skip, the yansh and breast dey bounce, all the senators for don reach there.

But since na boy wey get gbola like Dem, since January, na today we dey know...

Highest Government go do, Dem go buy more skipping rope give the boy.

Baddestguyp:
after he was blackmailed and threatened by the Marquis, he had no choice but to kill Wick...

He even competed in a game of Poker for the right to kill Wick...
But still chose to keep saving Wick...

What a confused Character

Can we talk about how you twisted the story to suit your narrative?

You think I'll let that slide for the second time?

Baddestguyp:
If you're so grateful to someone for saving your dog that you'd walk away from over $20m...
Then why do you keep pushing for his bounty to be increased so that even more bounty hunters will be after him?

Thank you for opening another can of worms

Oga stop twisting the story to suit your narrative.

He had already asked for more before John saved his dog

Why una too like to dey lie for film wey everybody watch sef......

It's not hard to see why he had a change of heart, letting the Marquis live by killing John will only result in him being the puppet, and Mr Nobody is a freelancer who doesn't owe loyalty to anybody.

Even Caine told him that taking a deal with the High Table isn't worth it.

Which other explanation you dey find.

Baddestguyp:
I don't think Mr Nobody was needed at all...his entire existence in the movie is pointless

Well I look at it from this perspective.

Mr Nobody doesn't want to kill John Wick because the price is not yet right, and he also wants to prevent anyone from Killing John Wick for a lesser price.

He doesn't owe his allegiance to anyone, money is his only motivation. Marquis made him swear his loyalty with the knife and all, but when the time came, he still asked for more money.

I think Mr Nobody's purpose is to prevent John from dying, to him he might be waiting for when the price is right, but by doing so, he was keeping John Alive long enough for him to face off with the Marquis.

It would've been ridiculous for John to survive that road fight all by himself, I think that's where Mr Nobody comes in.

And John had the opportunity to kill Mr Nobody, but chose to save his dog, Mr Nobody has no personal beef with John, so at that point, it's fair for him to stop trying to kill John.

You might not see it, but Mr Nobody's purpose was to keep John Alive long enough, and I'm not sure he even realized that that's what he was doing.

Baddestguyp:
it's still a rhetorical question...

My stance has never changed on whether he could refuse the duel...

You're the one who keeps changing stance every minute...
Before you said he could refuse but didn't refuse cos of arrogance...
Now you're saying he couldn't refuse

shebi you say you ask rhetorical question?

Ehn this one sef na rhetorical answer.....


You think say na only you Sabi twist words.

You asked a question that's very useless when placed side by side with the original plot of the movie. I catch you, you dey tell me say na rhetorical question.

Baddestguyp:
I asked a rhetorical question because you said he didn't refuse the duel out of arrogance...

Wow this Guy......

You've already asked this question before I made mention of Arrogance....And even the arrogance I was referring to wasn't about him accepting.

This your lie no work abeg.........

Baddestguyp:
if you could refuse a duel, what was the point of accepting it only to try to stop him from making it to the venue?

Abi no be you ask this question again.

If you already know he can't refuse, then why you dey ask this question?

Baddestguyp:
okay...
Who posted this then?
@bolded:

Is this your alter ego:

More likely to accept than refuse because of his arrogance, how does that translate to he can refuse.

Letting arrogance stand in the way of sound reasoning by collecting the gun from Caine, how does that translate to he "can refuse"

You already know he can't refuse and you asked why didn't he refused and I answered you, now you want to turn everything around.

If anything you should get a knock for asking the silly question.

Baddestguyp:
why does option 1 not exist?

I thought you said he could refuse...but his pride made him accept the duel


Now you're changing your opinion and saying that the High Table forced the Marquis to accept the duel?

Is your brain paining you? Where did I say he could refuse?

Go and dig it out I'd like to see.

And option 1 doesn't exist because Winston made it clear that "without rules they're living like animals"

If option 1 exist, it's as good as saying there's no rule. If they avoid answering for their crime by refusing a duel, then they have no right to hold John accountable for his crime also.

Baddestguyp:
the problem with your statement is that Chapter 3 and chapter 4 have shown that they never had trouble tracking John Wick no matter the country he fled to...

So why would they need him to stay in France when they could track him anywhere...
It's even more ridiculous since it makes no sense to take a huge gamble on Wick winning a duel just because they wanted him to stay in France.
There is no balance between risk and potential benefit


The Marquis was given much power by the High Table.

*(Assuming the Marquis has complete choice to refuse the duel) the options for the Marquis are these:

1. Refuse the duel and continue to have assassins hunt Wick from all over the world since it's not hard to track John Wick... (It's only a short matter of time before they kill Wick) ---- 100% success rate

OR

2. Accept the duel and keep Wick in France...but risk the possibility of Wick making it to the venue and killing Caine and walking away Scot free ---- 50% success rate


If you were the Marquis, which would you choose? Any sane person would choose Option 1...
It's a 100% guaranteed success....
Option 2 is a useless gamble that changes it to a 50/50 chance

Any sane person will choose Option 1.

The problem is option 1 doesn't exist, no need of dwelling there.

Option 2 makes the playground Level. Even both of them could lose their lives, in that case, good riddance.


The High Table made the Rule, not Winston.

Baddestguyp:
I didn't switch anything

You were the one who said he accepted the duel out of pride...

I showed screenshot to show that is wrong...

My first statement you quoted is called an "example" or a "scenerio"

oga go and read your previous comments .

And yes, it was pride, pride of being the one who killed John Wick, otherwise he wouldn't have rushed to collect the gun from Caine.

Baddestguyp:
if you could refuse a duel, what was the point of accepting it only to try to stop him from making it to the venue?

Baddestguyp:
exactly as I suspected...
The point is, it's not about arrogance...
It's because he didn't have a choice

See how you quickly switched your narrative from he could have refused to he didn't have a choice.

IMEI:
John only got to know that killing the Elder would change nothing on getting there. He went all the way there thinking he could

The Marquis had a right of refusal over the duel, Winston only manipulated him to accept it and the Marquis saw an opportunity in that

Accepting the duel meant that John Wick could be more easily tracked and killed, since he would have to make his way to the duel arena. Accepting the duel gave the Marquis an oppportunity to send hordes against John Wick to either kill him or delay him and cause a forfeit by default on the part of Wick, which would mean his death. Plus, the added advantage of keeping a hold of Caine's services if John is killed by other than Caine

Exactly. He could be easily tracked because there was no way he was going to leave France. He couldn't stay hidden either because there's no point in Challenging the Marquis and not showing up, which means automatic Victory for the Marquis.

And in all the this, the biggest winner is the High Table, because they can easily appoint a new Marquis. Their aim of killing John was achieved ( expect the producers want to give us a new twist like saying John didn't die and bla bla ).

@Baddestguyp Don't forget the Marquis is not the main player, the High Table is. Did the high table win at the end? Of course. Except John didn't die, and even if he didn't, I see no reason for him going after the high table again.

The Marquis is the puppet, even if Winston hadn't manipulated him into accepting, the high table seeing an opportunity would've done the same.

Baddestguyp:
changes nothing. A family member can still commit attrocities and get away with it...
So yeah

John was quite easy to track right from Chapter 3 and even Chapter 4...they tracked him to the Osaka hotel...
Even on the way to the duel, the moment he came above ground, he was found

Isn't this what the Marquis wanted, do you think he could've stayed hidden on his way to the duel?

For him to get there, he has to come above ground, so it's not like he had a choice anyway.

Baddestguyp:
if you could refuse a duel, what was the point of accepting it only to try to stop him from making it to the venue?

Look at it this way....X joins Y family...commits crimes against the High Table and asks for a duel...

If the Marquis can refuse the duel and kill X, then why waste time in accepting it only to try to assassinate X from behind?

John Wick could have won the duel if he wanted to kill Caine. He purposely didn't shoot...

The duel being introduced as a way out of liability opens an entire "can of worms" on the lore and rules of the show
Many other characters could have also tried to escape liability with the duel

It's only those whose families sit at the table that can challenge the Marquis to a duel. So a random person can't just wake up one morning, kill everybody in his village and look for a way out by challenging the Marquis to a duel.

Asking why the Marquis didn't refuse the challenge, well it's quite obvious he's an arrogant man and he's more likely to accept than refuse the challenge. He let his arrogance stand in the way of sound reasoning.

Secondly, John was always on the move, and tracking him wasn't the easiest thing for the Marquis, I guess he wanted John in a fixed location, where John can't pull off any surprise attack on them, and if John doesn't show up to that location, it's game over, hence he tried to stop him from getting there.

Did you see the speed at which he collected the gun from Caine in other to end John's life without even considering the fact that John hasn't shot the third time. It was his plan all along, arrogance over sound reasoning and it led to his death.

If he had calculated well it might have ended in his favor. Afterall Winston told John that it's win or lose. Neither is certain for both parties, the outcome might go either way.

Baddestguyp:
@ bolded...John knew killing the Elder would change nothing...

If I'm correct, the Marquis didn't have much of a choice. That's what Winston reminded him of...

If the Marquis could deny the duel easily, what was the point of accepting it then sending assassins to prevent John Wick from getting to the venue?

This means he had to accept the duel even if he didn't want to

Challenging the Marquis to a duel is not the issue.

The thing you should be thinking about is that "will the Challenger be alive to witness the day of the duel"

Remember nothing is stopping the Marquis from indirectly killing the Challenger before the duel.

You might think it's an easy way out because John Wick survived the whole ordeal.

If it was a random individual from a random family like you said, do you think such person would've survived given the resources at the disposal of the Marquis.

Remember it's the plot armour that kept John Alive and not how easy it was to challenge the Marquis and win.

If not for the arrogance of the Marquis, do you think John Wick would've won the duel

And He didn't kill the Elder because he was expecting his death to change anything. He killed the elder because the Elder refused to keep to his end of the bargain.

Ogbontarigi Ole.

During the time of iPod na so person thief my iPod for hostel, come back two days later come thief the charger.

See her big head

This same drug money wey one man use become President.

One drug dealer's jail term is another drug dealer's presidency term.

Ronaldo went there, they named it Camel league.

Now Messi is going there, I wonder what they'll call it this time.

The people I'm talking about knows themselves.

Now Messi will join Ronaldo in wearing jalabiya to play against Walai Talai Fc....

When Buhari said from Top To Bottom, I thought he was only talking about the economy...

Now it's clear to me, he was also talking about the presidential line, He ( Buhari ) will handover to the person that will take the country to the bottom (Bulaba).....

The whole

world is on

Auto Pilot.....

Let the craze continue, we are watch from the sideline.