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@ Joeagbaje,

Well said sir. I love this.

dammizz:
You can't just read a random paragraph of a book and understand the essence of the book. To understand any Bible passage very well, carefully study the preceding and succeeding verses. The answer to your question is in the next verse but u were too lazy to see.
The importance of Fasting can never be overemphasized, it enhances right connection with your Creator, it subdues flesh, it helps u avoid distractions and its a Master Key to closed doors

@ dammizz, please read through earlier responses on this thread and you'll discover that it's just you that responded insultively. It's your kind that causes trouble everywhere by your insultive nayure. Please leave this forum. Spread the news & not the virus. This is a religious forum so forget your ill manner under your pillow and respond with some respect for others.  

@ necta,

Exactly, you just hit the nail on the head. This is exactly what the religious pharisee Nichodemus asked our Lord Jesus. Can a man go back into his mother's womb & be born again?

Jesus said he that is born of the spirit is spirit. Now, being born again is being born by the Spirit of God. Normally, this will be hard for you to understand because you're a muslim. That's why people refer to you as carnal. The first thing you should do is Believe that Jesus (the word of God) was made flesh & dwelt amongst men. He died & resurrected on the third day. Your believing & confessing him as your Lord can only be done if you hae the holy spirit in you. That's why the christian is different.

I have hope for you because I've met several muslims who believed & are now preaching Jesus. Try it, you'll discover that the clog/vail covering your eyes will be taking away. 1Cor 3:7-. A man has to be born twice, first by his parents & then by God's spirit.

@ Sweetnecta,

Can you please quote the part of the Bible where Jesus said John was Elijah re-incarnate? Also read Lk1:17 where the angel of God said the child John shall go in the spirit & power of Elijah.

Secondly, Jesus said in John 16;7, it is expedient that  go away so that the comforter will come. This is the Holy spirit. ou see, if Jesus did not go, the ministry to the Gentiles would not have been possible. Through the Holy spirit, the whole world can carry God inside individually by believing in the death & resurrection of Jesus. As a man on earth, Jesus would have only been in Israel, but as the Holy spirit, Jesus can be real even to the Gentile.

Col 1:26-27 This is the mystery which hath been hid from ages & generations but now made manifest to his saints; to whom God will make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

Through the Holy spirit, salvation has come to the gentiles by the death & resurrection of Jesus. Read Rom 11;1-24

Finally, the Bible did not say, art thou the prophet? The pharisees said art thou that prophet?

@ All,

What  am saying in essence is that, after Jesus humled himself to the cross, by obedient, after being raised from the dead Col 2:9 reads " For in him (Jesus) dwelleth the fulness of the Godhead bodily" i.e. Jesus is the totality of God. Don't you just Love Him?

@ Jo, what do you think?

@ sweetnecta; Enigma & all

Let me help out, you just remove every hate from your heart & be open minded as you read this. In John 8:58, Jesus said unto them, verily verily I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. if you notice, the pharisees did not say Jesus was claiming to pre-exist Abraham per-se, but they said to Jesus "how can you call yourself God" and they attempted to throw stones at him. This is because, Jesus was saying he is the I AM that appeared to moses as Jehovah.

In Matt 28:19, ,  Baptizing them in the NAME of the father, son, & Holy ghost. With this, you discover that it's one name & not three different names. Acts 2;38 Peter admonished that they should be baptized in the NAME of Jesus & recieve the HOLY ghost. In Phil. 2;9-10, God approved that at the mention of the name Jesus, every knee should bow, in heaven, earth & under the earth. Remember, jesus always said I & my father are one.

As christians, we believe God as Holy trinity, the Father, Son & Holy Ghost. But you see, the Holy Ghost responds to the name of Jesus. Matt 1:24, 2;13, Isa 63:9, Gen 16:11 you'll see that the Holy Spirit is the angel of God's pressence i.e. if he responds to the name of Jesus, then trully, Jesus is also God's name. That's why we should baptize & pray in the name of Jesus. I hope this is clear enough? 

@ Jo,

Happy Sunday sir. I'm back.

@ Enigma,

Stop aguing so loudly without scriptural proofs. Abraham could not have been born again because Jesus had not come, died & ressurected. The one who's born again recieves by faith, the life Jesus had after he was ressurected from the dead by the Holy Spirit.

Secondly, check the meaning of the word BEGOTTEN, it means to beget i.e. to bear a child. That's why in Acts 13;33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written ,  thou art my son, this day have I begotten thee.

@ Frosbel & Sweetnecta,

I don't understand why you both are exchanging unnecessary insults at each other instead of quoting scriptures or qurran, as the case may be, & learning something from each other. I know that necta does not believe in Jesus & can be utterly rude at times but two wrongs don't make a right.

Frosbel, you can help him understand better what name the Holy spirit responds to & also who Jesus is. I'm sure t6his will help necta many other readers to learn something.

@ Jo, You said it all. Well done. 

@ Jesoul & Enigma,

"Abraham believed God & it was couted to him for rigtheousness" This did not make him (Abraham) born again. And Jesus Christ, , the first begotten from the dead (Rev. 1;5). Jesus was the first to be born again.
Blessed be the God & Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again,  by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead (1Pet 1;3). When you confess the Lord ship of Jesus, there is a re-birth of your spirit by the glory of the father Rom 6;4 therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death; that like as christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the father, even so we also should walk in the newness of life.

@ poster

Peace & happiness is definately to be chosen over religion. This & more blessings you will find in Jesus christ. That's why "Christianity (true christianity) is not a religion" ----- Pst Chris.

@ Yummy,

I'm sorry about that. It was meant to answer to questions and uncanny statements made by sweetnecta.

@ Sweetnecta; Copy that?

Rom 1; 3-4, concerning his son Jesus Christ our Lord which was made the seed of David according to the flesh and declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead.  

John 3;16, for God so loved the world that he gave his ONLY begotten son that whosoever believes in him SHOULD NOT perish but have everlasting life.

1John 4;14, and we have seen and do testify that the father sent the son to be the savior of the world.

At sweetnecta & yummyuk, does the above scripture mean anything to you?

where was your Uncle _MOHAMMED when God almighty made this declaration? Also, read Matt 28;18,  and Jesus came and spake saying, ALL POWER (authority) IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN & EARTH. Glory to God, Jesus is alive forever &is Lord forever.

@ sweetnecta

Ok Holy mallam. You can go ahead & eat while you observe your wet, dry or moist fasting. I can now see why your kind are mostly suicide bombers all over the world. Don't worry, the more "Infidels" you & your causins (Boko Haram and the likes), blast into pieces, the more sweetnectas you recieve when you arrive in Hell.

Better surrender your life to Jesus. The one who gave his life for the world & stop running arround blabbing about what your politician Uncle Mohammed forced your ancestors to practice as religion.

mabell:
@joagbaje,
mabell is spelt with a doulbe l

well there are close to 16,000 testimonies on wikisozo so it might not be that easy sourcing for yours but i'll try
na fear make you born again, amazing really!?!

@ mabell,

It actually don't matter the number of testimonies pasted on wikisozo, if you need to locate a particular one just type the person's name in the search column on the top right screen. If you know the person's full name or just one name, you'll get a display of all the names close to it or the exact full name entered. It works really good.

@ sweetnecta

Madam, stop decieving yourself. God did not tell you anything. Morning starts from 12am (After midnight) and ends 12pm (past morning) any where in the world. Normally, because of the nature of my job, I take my breakfast (gotten from Break-Fast) at 5;30am evryday because I resume work at 6am.

If after you've eaten dinner between 6pm & 9.pm a day before, and take your breakfast before 6.am, you don't say you're fasting because you already took your Break-fast in the morning i.e. between 12am & 12pm (noon) it is normal. If you want to fast, try not to eat break fast between 12am & 12noon. Don't blame anything on God & stop decieving yourself. Infact, in Africa, if you eat between 12am & 12noon, you can decide not to eat lunch & take dinner after 6pm. It is called 1:0:1.

Sweetnecta:
After all, where will they have children and be tested for either Paradise or hell Fire bound?

@ Sweetnecta,

By the statement above, are you implying that the forbidden fruit Adam & Eve aet is having carnal knowledge of each other i.e. sex? If yes, I disagree with you. According to the Bible in Gen 4:1 & 25, you'll read that Adam knew his wife first after they had already been sent out of the garden (in Gen 3), and she concieved, and bore Cain then later Abel. The next record was in verse 25 when she concieved & bore Seth.

@ Yummyyuk & Frosbel

Do you see why it is always better & smatter never to critisize men of God or churches but only to discuss critically on your individual views using the Bible as your reference?

I joined this forum when I read posts from two of you raining unnecessary insults on men of God e.g. Oyedepo, Ashimolowo, Pst Chris, etc. SO YOU GUYS ALSO HAVE PASTORS EH!!! At least I now know that Mr. Frosbel is Deeper Life, Yummyyuk is Cele. Can you imagine the person's critisizing others? Now that the ball has now moved into your church sorry court, you're now at logger heads more or less.

just go get yourselves a good study Bible each, make out time & study about Jesus, who he is, why he came & how it benefits you. Try studying the new testament books, especislly Pauls messages, mix it with prophesies from Isiah, Daniel, Jerimiah, then read about our father of faith Abraham. By the power of God's Spirit you will recieve interpretations from the Angel of God's pressence. You guys really do have logs in your eyes to remove aftre which you go back to your partners in crime e.g. Earwide, Kunleoshob, Ogajim, etc. Godbless you.

Pastor Kun:
@muicuilles
You cec victims keep regurgitating the poison Oyaks feeds you. So if president jonathan condemns the acts of boko haram that means that boko haram is greater than him. I have merely condemned the acts and practises of a common criminal like oyaks and his fellow marauders and you blowing your fuse that a mere criminal is greater than you.

Since you want to spill words seeming too smart & a loud mouthed windbag. Then lets talk you & I. How influential are you as an individual? how many lives have you affected since you've been born. How many persons have you helped to make a living phisically or otherwise? How many persons have you converted into God's kingdom? How many can testify of how your ministration helped their infirmities? How many ministers of God have you raised? How many inspiring books have you written? just to mention but a few achievements the man Pst Chris has surppassed. Apart from your wife i.e. _{if you're married, which I strongly doubt}, that you have little or no influence over and maybe your cat, what have you achieved in your life how many persons want to listen to you you sound even too dumb to win a game of luck.

The men you talk about are probably not as old as you are. some of them are probably not as big in size as you are. ou are here ranting like someone who just ran out from a ganja store. Let me tell you, even if you were to live on earth 1000 more years, you'll not become a quatre of any of these men's servants or loyalists. GO GET A LIFE

@ Poster Kun,

You've just confirmed the ideology that " only inferior persons condem their superiors" The greater ones do not ever notice the lesser cos they're overwhelmed by the pressence of the greater. That's why darkness dispels in the pressence of light. If I were you, I'd try never to condem people who are greater than I am. Get a life. These men of God you're calling names are using the word of God & his anointing to affect lives positively all over the world.

If you continue like this, despite the fact that you're not 1/3rd the man that they are, no matter how much you try, you'll just find yourself deteriorating. Just be careful okay.

@ Fedup & zikk,

Do you guys pay your thithes? be it in coweries, yams, wheat or palm oil?

If your answer is yes, good for you. If not, you don't have to beat yourself about trying to convince people not to pay their thithes. It's a faith thing and as such, you can just ussshhhhhhh!!!!!

@ bunmioguns & brainpulse

May God bless you guys for patiently educating these folks on God's words. You will continue to increase in God's wisdom in the name of our Lord Jesus christ. Amen.

@ Ogojim, I noticed you have a special affinity for Joagbaje. Anywhere you see him you want him to always notice you. ARE YOU man-lover? , if you are, I think there are better ways to get a fellow man's attention instead of raining baseless insults on him. You can start by being interested in the things he says and respond critically. Just a humle advise.

@ Sweetnecta

I've read most of your posts on different topics on this forum & I have the intuition that you have a special calling that needs to be fine tuned. Your calling is to be a soldier for Jesus in this generation & you'll do mighty things in the matchless name of Jesus. Amen.

Sweetnecta:
@Frosbel; « #16 on: Today at 04:33:47 PM »suicide are of two types; a person killing himself and the other is a person who allowed himself to be killed when he can prevent it. Jesus committed suicide by the second method, according to the Bibles. the jihadist Jesus is truly a muslim. now swallow that hard, mr. fung [sorry me. frosbel].

Because of you I'm commenting on this forum. Just so you know, Jesus did not commit suicide. Though he had the power to save himself, he did'nt because he loves you. He was a sacrifice for humanity (you & I). Also, he followed the instruction of his father that's why he prayed " if it were possible for "this" cup to pass by him. Please do not see it as Suicide but as Sacrifice. John 3;16 "for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, A suicide is performing a deliberate act resulting in voluntary death. Remember he was tried & judged by the Romans.

@ mabel

May God continually to bless you for this innovation. I was wondering how I'd get R.O.R. at this location since I could not get before leaving town, only for me to discover that Its pastred here daily. Thanks

@ Kun,
If Biblical Thithe is not money, What is it then? & do you pay it? By the way, It sounds like you're the trying to impose your opinion into scripture. The word of God never contradicts Himself.

What you need to understand is that all you're a quoting are laws which came to be in Moses' time. The Levites are among the tribes of Israel. Abraham was not a Levite. Thithing was before the law and in Hebrews 7, Jesus was was refered to a Priest forever after the order of Melchisedec who Father Abraham thithed to.

We now, by the power of God's Spirit, have Pastors precipitate Priests (not from the tribe of Levi). We pay our thithes by faith in Jesus, to God, and our priest(s) precipitate Pastors blesses them. In that verse you quoted, i.e Heb 11, 12--- 18, it states clearly that Jesus is not a Levite. Remember he's from the tribe of Judah. So you see it's our faith in him & his sent ones that gives us the results by the power of the Holy Spirit. Believe it, it's the truth.

@ Kun

Pastor Kun:
@muicuilles
Read the passage again with special emphasis on verses 11,12 & 18. There you would see clearly that tithing was anulled and described as a weak useless and unprofitable practise.

Vrs 11; if therefore perfection were by the Levitical Priesthood (for under it the people recieved the law) what further need was there that another priest should arise after the order of Melchisedec, (Jesus),    12; for the priest being changed , there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Sir, you'll notice that the "disannulling" in vrs 18 was not refering to the act of Thithing, but the idea of the Thithes being paid to the "Levites" as the qualified priests. It's stating that the death of Jesus annulled the Levites only as priests as they are from a particular tribe of the Jews. i.e. we won't need to go looking for a Levite from Israel to pay thithes to. Please look at it very well & see if understanding is incorrect.

@ Febup
You sound like a puppy running away from a fight with her tail sunk in behind. I feel pity for you. My Jesus sacrificed his life for me & you who's probably running to & fro looking for daily bread is talking about waste?  

I thought I could help you out of your misery by enligthening you on God's word, I never knew you had already given up on yourself.   Anyway, I'm a very patient person & will still help you out against your wish.

Read Rom 11, you'll discover that Every other nation that is not Isreal was refered to as Gentiles & the life of God given to us is by grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. Enjoy this grace by being obedient to God's word and be fully grafted into the tree of life. Take advantage of this salvation. Do not loose it. Pay your thithe it's only 10% of your income i.e. _{if you have any}. Don't spend it on dangerous mind distorting grasses & liquids. A word is enough for the wise, _{which you're apparently not}, cos I know you'll still respond _{with your brain still under your butt.}     Joke pls.

@ All;
I've enjoyed this conversation until now.
@ Kun,  Can you please explain how exactly does Heb 7: 5-19 anulled thithing for christians?

Quote from: Pastor Kun on Today at 06:42:17 AM
@febup
Don't mind these charlatans, they all know that tithes as it is preached and practised today is not biblical but derived from fraudulent manipulation of scriptures for the greedy gain of the promoters of the false doctrine. You may also wish to read Hebrew 7:5-19 in this passage tithes was clearly anulled for christians, made irrelevant and described as weak and useless practise. Pastors know this, but they don't mention it to their congregation cause of the filthy lucre they derive from their false doctrine.

I've read it over & over again and could only denote the fact that Abraham thithed to Melchizedech & Jesus been a priest in Melchizedech's order. Are you sure Heb 7;5 was the quotation you meant to refer to? 

@ Febup,

I am not a farmer. My earnings come in cash. Should I buy crops worth 10% of my earning & pay as thithe? If I do and the church sells the crops for money which is in turn used by the church, or eat the crops(raw food materials), what difference is it when I decide to pay the cash instead?
I think you should look outside your window or check your calendar. you 'll discover we're not in the ancient days when people use crop produce, sheeps or cattles for bride price.
Just so you know, I believe in thithing & I'm blessed doing it. If you dont believe it does not mean it is wrong. But I can assure you that if you try it you'll swallow all these filthy words you've used on this topic.

;d

@ Joe,

Less I forget, don't mind that Ogajim Guy too oh!!! Because he's in the US he thinks he's the only immigrant there. Most times they all forget where they're from because of the serenity,development level & beauty in the western world. If they were that smart they should have remained in their mother country to cause a change instead of running away abroad & judging their homeland from there.

You might be shocked most of these guys like OGAJIM was probably a Lizard when in Naija. Now He thinks himself to be an aligator. Sorry Bruv, you only metamophosed into an AMERICAN LIZARD with earings, smoking pot and stuff. BUT YOU ARE STILL A lizard ( Bishop Idahosa).

if I were you I'll try to cause a change in my mother land from were ever I am by at least changing the general notion (BAD) MOST FORIEGNERS have about Nigeria. Instead of feeling like a foriegner in another man's land. CASCUILLE!!!

frosbel (m) Re: Why Do Youths Run Away From Deeper Life Bible Church?
« #433 on: January 17, 2011, 11:01 PM » --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Good that you are a deeper lifer, just make sure that you are also a member of the true church, the body of  Christ.

Remember as much as i also go to deeper life and admire the church for sound doctrine,

@ Joe

Read the above statement by Mr. FROSBEL on the above topic. FROSBEL IS DEEEEEEPER LIFE. I even suspect this OGOJIM guy too. THEY THINK AND SOUND ALIKE.