Mr Aboki: Sorry!!


Please beware of this guy! Lest you employ him at the New health Centre that President Jonathan will build in 3 weeks..



_{Crime Stoppers alert.. Beware of this fake doctor..}


https://www.nairaland.com/1482565/police-nab-fake-luth-doctor#19026778

Did you read rule number 1 before you posted this?

You are intentionally tribalizing this thread, is it the fault of the Yoruba and the SW politicians that Bayelsa state has not got basic health facilities?

DeLaRue: Thanks. I think I mentioned countless times that Oshogbo or any other suitable town/city in any of the 3 poorer states gets my backing.

Brother- It is Osogbo! Very important- sorry for being pedantic

DeLaRue: Thanks for the clarification. My apologies, I thought you alleged that I was a spoiler of Yoruba interest, of which I am not.

I agree with you on the collective effort to develop the land. But as part of the latter debate, do you think Akure, Oshogbo, Okitipupa being a capital will undermine the collective effort.

My point is Ibadan is already doing well economically and all the indicators suggest that it will continue to wax strong. So why cant we use the 'capital' thing to help other parts?

Personally and apologies for stating this, I do not care what your intentions are.

My grouse with your post is essentially that the location of a capital city is immaterial if there is a collective will to develop Yorubaland. All depends on the political will to make lives better for ourselves.

For instance, Lagos was the capital of Nigeria for years, but it did not stop the transfer of the national wealth to the rest of Nigeria- albeit, most ended in private pockets. Currently, Abuja is the capital of Nigeria and yet we have a president whom we can forgive for his gross maladministration of the country since he has the IQ of a frog, but "normal" residents of Abuja and its environs are not enjoying the benefits of that locational advantage- hence why I have placed the emphasis on political cohesion and I feel the Yoruba nation is ready and equipped for that.

As far as I know, while London is the capital of the UK, cities like Birmingham, Manchester, Edinburgh are able to attract investments, Beijing is the capital of China but other parts such as Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Tianjin are doing well. The USA has Washington DC as the capital, but the majority of investment is in New York, Texas etc. That should be the aim of the Yoruba land instead of concentrating on a redundant topic such as the location of a capital city.

Let us tap into the potentials of Ondo state - academia, natural resources, traditional heritage, tourism etc instead of debating about some mindless topic about "capital city" - just my 2 kobo- no vex abeg

DeLaRue:

You are obfuscating issues. Must the capital of a new SW region be in a city such as Ibadan that is already well developed and poised to enjoy even more economic development in the future - capital or no capital?

Why cant a town like Akure be the capital of the new SW?

These are the take aways from the thread. No need for accusations of dividing the Yoruba body corporate.

Au Contraire - Obfuscation is something I never indulge in Brother.

With all humility, I would say you are the one who is confused about the exact point you are trying to pass across.

The choice of a capital city is not necessarily important if there is a collective will to develop Yorubaland.

I never accused you of dividing Yorubaland- neither yourself or anyone can achieve that. My last paragraph was aimed at the "usual suspects" who have an antenna located in their bedroom to notify them of any thread that has a Yoruba name- surely you are not one of them?!

DeLaRue: I expect they will question my Yorubaness. But that changes nothing. And you having a field day thinking Yorubas are at war with themselves changes nothing too.

There is no need hiding our concerns for fear that Igbos or anybody else will say we are disunited. If anything, this is meant to be an intellectual discuss.

The bit about Ondo exiting the Southwest was just to draw attention. What is absolutely clear though is that we will not allow ourselves to be treated the way we were previously.

We want a fair prosperous Yorubaland where every child, wherether s/he is based in Ogbomosho, Ikere Ekiti, or Ifon has equal economic and social opportunity, and social justice which is at the core of Yoruba values, prevail.

In this scenario, there is no room for one group of people to lord it over others.

My friend, most of what you have written is nonsense! I am from Ondo and I am yet to see any Ondo or Ekiti man/woman ever question or doubt their Yorubaness or their association with the rest of the great Yoruba race.

Your argument about equality, while being a fair point given historical events is misguided in the current scheme of affairs. You say you wanted an intellectual discussion but the title of your thread does not indicate that, neither did the contents of your OP.

South West Politics, generally has metamorphosed from the parochial politics that existed in the early-mid 20th century , our experience in the Nigerian nation has fostered unity in Yorubaland. As an Ondo man, you should know that even within the state, there is mutual suspicion between people from Ondo Town, Ile-Oluji and Idanre - such is the nature of politics but at the end of the day, we sit down together and eat Iyan together.

We have fought our corner collectively and have arguably fared better than most ethnic groups in Nigeria in terms of political unity. I am not trying to imply that we are perfect - far from it, but it is that unity of purpose that has differentiated us from the rest of Nigeria. Individualism is a philosophy unacceptable in Yorubaland.

The handwriting is on the wall, every region in Nigeria will soon start to bear their papa name either by a transparent and efficient fiscal federalism structure or most likely and more appropriate regional political structure. As a Yoruba man, I dont care if the capital is Osogbo, Abeokuta, Ogbomoso or Ifon, we have the political maturity to govern ourselves and formulate/implement policies that will benefit our citizens and law abiding immigrants. A Yoruba region or Nation will foster constructive competition and engender overall development. We dont engage in hocus pocus politics- we will discuss and thrash it out so that no set of people will arrogate political and economic power to themselves.

Lastly, to the usual suspects who come here to rejoice at divisions in Yorubaland, I will advise you to wake up and smell the coffee. Yorubaland is strong and a force that no one can wish away- not even in your dreams. A lot of you have consistently complained that you have been marginalised - can any of you give provide any statistics as to the difference between the Federal Govt allocations that has been given to your states and the rest of Nigeria since the inception of the Nigerian state and let us conduct an empirical distribution analysis. Could it be a case that while your leaders have been resolutely misappropriating these funds at the expense of your development- Federal allocations to the SW has been relatively better spent to make the region a magnet for inward migration?

Who ever wrote this piece of garbage must be hallucinating.

Ondo State will exit the SW?


You better go and concentrate on the Ndukas, Emekas and Akaegos who insist they are not ibo

What exactly is the news here?

olabukola: so she should resign cos of leaking roof? Can you say you are 100% sure that picture is even in Nigeria. Am not sure you have been to nigeria before. If I may ask what is the work of the FAAN? That airport must have a manager, that section of the airport must have a supervisor, what are their duties? Maybe to collect salaries at the end of the month. Let criticise when it's necessary. Calling a minister to resign cos of roof leakage sounds bizarre. Even the GM of that airport can never resign cos of roof leakage. But I still doubt that picture anyway.

A Nigerian president killed a whole 2 villages and won re-election.
A Nigerian state gov from east killed a road user in Lagos sometimes, did he resign?

Chima , can you stop derailing this thread. You are a disgrace for pretending to be Yoruba.

solomon111: we don't give birth to bastardds.
That's the speciality of yorubas.

Thank you for that comment!

As I am from Ika land- the land that flows with milk and honey, that comment has nothing to do with me.

Bros ee, I have been busy, why is it that our people insisted that his royal majesty the OBI should not marry an ibo woman?

What is wrong with the ibo damsel our OBI married?

solomon111: God punish you.

I am more than blessed Solo

Your comments are very UN-Ika like

Bros why are you treating your fellow IKA man like this?

All because I asked that you identify yourself?

May the god of Ika land bless you

solomon111: I am from IKA.
My local govt is ika north-east and i am from owa-kingdom,the village of owa-ekei to be precise.

Prove it on this forum right now!!!

Can you post your birth certificate?

I am also from Ika but raised in Lagos

Ngodigha1:
Thats it. Berem read this post from a son of the soil.

You are still not getting the point brother!

How do I or anyone here on this forum know that he is from Ika??

Anyone one on a faceless and anonymous forum can claim to be who they are or not!

His post does not confirm or justify your position.

Are you a fan of science? I doubt it!

Like I said earlier- I am the grandson Of Ojukwu, please prove or disprove it

Ok!

Ogbuefi is Yoruba from Akure
Omonuan is Yoruba from Benin
Ezeagu is Yoruba from Osogbo
Altruth is Yoruba from Idanre
Manny4 life is from Oyo
even Mummy Osisi is just pretending, I know her very well, she is from Ibadan

Ngodigha1:
But most of them are people I know very well outside nairaland.

And you expect me me to take your word for it?

Are you 12 years old?

Ngodigha1:
Ogbuefi is IGBO from Ikaland
Omonuan is Igbo from Ikaland.
Ezeagu is Igbo from Ikaland
Solomon11 is IGBO FROM Ikaland. The list is endless.
On Itsekiri, they have been classified as Jekri ethnic group over 400 years before the formation of the Yoruba ethnic group in the last 120 years.

All these postulations on a faceless medium??

Me sef I am from Anambra- a decendant of Ojukwu!

Please Nigerians can you tell me what they teach children in school these days? This is embarrassing!

dayokanu:

A man leading an army and fleeing warfront leaving defenceless women and children to die is the worst form of coward ever. Even his father in law alluded to it

When he was fleeing encouraged Biafrans to fight till death while he was in the comfort of Abidjan

Yet he came back got all his belongings wle the common man never got anything and he joined those who he claimed were enemies in the same Political party

[size=14pt]OJUKU IS THE WORST FORM OF COWARD EVER BORN. If in doubt ask his Father In law[/size]

GBAM!!!!!!

dayokanu:

Maybe I should also post something from my email as evidence or reference a post from bluetooth as evidence

Or My uncle told me that Yorubas are evil

Or my sister in law said Yoruba pri.ck is too big

I just wasted an hour of my life debating with a Biafran intellectual who is is referencing NL- I am disappointed !! even Mama Osisi will be shocked!

Nnena I will report you to Eze Ndigbo of NL

nnenna.1:


Here you go:

https://www.nairaland.com/690636/becomerich-anioma-igbos-yorubas-staged

Are you ok?

You are referencing a post on Nairaland

I cannot believe I have been wasting my time debating with you!!

nnenna.1:
@MidasTouch1,

Who were these core "Igbo politicians" who used these coup plotters to orchestrate the coup, and later dumped them?

Please list names and concrete historical facts to back up your response.

I will advise that you pick up a history book at your closest library. As you will acknowledge, me explaining all that to you is beyond the purpose of this thread. Alternatively, you can start another thread in that regard and I will be more than willing to educate and enlighten you.

I noticed that you conveniently omitted the part where I said that Ojukwu murdered a Yoruba man who fought on behalf of Biafra - Victor Banjo who was assassinated on the a market street in Alaibo.

N.B. Banjo died a warrior, after 4 shots, he cried out- " I am not dead yet"! A discussion for another day!

Ngodigha1:
Don't mind the bigots here.

And yet the people of his kingdom think it is an aberration for the "Obi" to marry an Ibo woman?

Please wallow in your ignorance if it helps you sleep at night

olabukola: Read from page one to the last. Nigeria/Nigerians are beyond redemption.

When was the altimatum [/b]given and when will it elapse? After that what happens.

[b]Does of you arguing in favour of Dino don't be surprise Dino will come out tomorrow and tell the whole world he was quoted out of context. After all he is a Nigerian.

Well I will be back by Monday to know what the out come is.

Foolish Nigerians.

Rewrite your post in English then perhaps, we will understand what you are trying to say.

nnenna.1:
Therein lies the kicker.

Were majority of the coup plotters Igbo, if this thread is any indication?

Now be a dear and address my first question before jumping the gun.

I will advise you to go and read my earlier post to Mummy Osisi before you think you are smart.


Actually I will paste it below for your perusal:

Coming here to give examples of young soldiers who were used and dumped by Ibo politicians to murder Nigerian politicians does not help your case, in fact it strengthens the fact that the majority of SS people do not consider themselves ibo.

Victor Adebukunola Banjo fought on the Biafran side of the civil war till he was murdered by Ojukwu in a market square in alaibo. Professor Oluwole Omo-Soyinka whom ibos now refer to as the old mad Professor fought bitterly to protect the interests of the Biafran cause. So please your reference to Ifejuana and Nzeogwu is immaterial in this discussion.

babyosisi:

I knew the relevance will fly over your head
Not surprised
Thanks for acknowledge the Ofe nmanu I served you earlier

Actually it is you that has totally failed in accepting the fact that Biafra consists of the five ibo states of Abia, Ebonyi, Anambra, Enugu and Imo. I know it is not what you want but there is a difference between wants and the FACT!!

You feel so emasculated and hurt when you are confronted with the reality that no other region is proud to be associated with ibos, how on earth can a traditional leader that goes by the title of "Obi" face such insurrection by his own subjects simply because his wife is ibo? Please answer me!

I loved your picture of Egusi soup with lots of red oyel, it is my local delicacy and I am 100% proud of it. If you -Mama Osisi is not dead by continuously eating Akpu at the age of 60 considering the diabolical composition and preparation methods, then I have nothing to fear by eating my Yoruba delicacy.

babyosisi: Igbo cultural association of Southern California

Member Associations



Abia Development Association, USA
Chokoneze Abroad
Oba Union of America

Abor Cultural Association
Dunukofia Union
Odiche Women

Abriba Association
Ebe Town Union
Odinamba Cultural Association

Achi Progressive Union
Enugu Provincial Union
Ofuobi Association

Adaugo Women's Association
Igbere Association
Okigwe Union

Ado Cultural Association
Igbo USA Ikwuano-Umuahia Cultural Assoc.
Okwesilieze Association

AADA Inc
Imo State Union
Orifite Union Owerri Cultural Association

Amokwe Cultural Association
Isikwuato Association
Udoka Women

Anambra State Union
Ani Uno Association
Anioma Foundatioin
Anioma Assoc. of USA Inc.
Anioma Women's Club
Asaba Union
Awgu Development Union
Awkunanaw Community
Azuata Orumba
Mbaise Family Association
Mbaise Family Women Assoc.
Ngwa Union of Los Angeles
Ngwo Progressive Union
Nkanu Cultural Association
Nkwerre Isu Community Association
Nmadinobi Circle of Friends
Nnewi Union
Nsukka Dev Union
Udokanma Igbo Women
Ukwa-Ndoki Development Foundation USA
Umuabi Development Union
Umuahia Progressive
Union Umuaka Community Union
Umunri Association
Umuowelle Association
Urualla Community Association
Ikwerre Community Association



http://www.angelfire.com/ca7/igbo/execofficers.html


Someobody tell me how those groups ended up as member groups on Igbo cultural association of Southern California

Igbos should be careful because these enemies have divided us for so long while finding ways to mend the hurts they caused themselves in their modakeke wars and unite as one even though they were never a united people.
These are the same people that put enmity in the midst of Igbos and still will not quit
They shouldn't be allowed to do so anymore
Thank God Igbo groups abroad are becoming wiser
Groups that say they are not Igbos are free to do so
But for an ignorant Nigerian to stand up and label Delta Igbos and Rivers Igbos non Igbos and limit Igbos to those within geographical location mapped out by the same divide and conquer mindset as these folks is preposterous
Education in Nigeria is indeed dismal
Every Igboman or woman ought to speak out against such falsehood.

What is the relevance of your post?

How does any of the rubbish up there ^^^^ tell us that the SS in Nigeria refuse to be identified as Ibos?

You cannot force people that have decided that they are ethnically different from Ibos to accept your own wish. Or are you planning to fight a war from two fronts?

babyosisi:

Kitikpa rachaa kwa Nne gi anya

Why is it always non Igbos that choose to define who Igbos are
Can't you eediots keep off subjects you can't defend?

Is that another way of saying- you cannot answer my questions?

When I asked for Biafran "intellectuals", trust me I never thought you would reply but hey- it is Mama Osisi.

babyosisi:

This same old hogwash recycled
This is getting rather old isn't it?

Need I remind some of you liars that the last president of Ohaneze NdiIgbo was from Delta State
So is Ngozi Okonjo Iweala
Did you know that fact before spewing out all that trash?
So were Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna

When it suits you they are Igbos and when it doesn't you tell us the extent of Igboland
I guess the 4 popular examples you can relate to don't know who they are
They need you to tell them who and what they are on the pages on nairaland

No be fight Madam, you are too old to be hyperventilating when you can calmly make your point. I can feel the anger in your post, you are too old to be doing such.


Your post does not negate my point that the generality of the Deltans, Ikwere, Ijaws and other ethic groups in the SS do not share your view that they are ibos.

Coming here to give examples of young soldiers who were used and dumped by Ibo politicians to murder Nigerian politicians does not help your case, in fact it strengthens the fact that the majority of SS people do not consider themselves ibo.

Victor Adebukunola Banjo fought on the Biafran side of the civil war till he was murdered by Ojukwu in a market square in alaibo. Professor Oluwole Omo-Soyinka whom ibos now refer to as the old mad Professor fought bitterly to protect the interests of the Biafran cause. So please your reference to Ifejuana and Nzeogwu is immaterial in this discussion.

I dont know why you have brought Madam Iweala's name to be honest, she is a capitalist, if there is a Biafra nation tomorrow, do you think she will mortgage all her hardwork to relinquish her Delta origin to go with Biafra? Well unless you can pay her 1 and a half times her current salary- Madam thinks in dollar terms only! Madam that does not care if ASUU strike lasts for 2 years knowing fully well that none of her children or their own children will ever attend an higher institution in Nigeria or even more ridiculously in Biafra.

Now can a Biafran intellectual answer my question before Madame Osisi decided to interject.

Thanks

Segeggs: SW And progress

^^^^ are Synonymous!

Mtchewww

I thought that the comments came from some semi-sane Ibo elders, only to waste my time to read that Aka Ikenga under the chairmanship of a mad man called Umzurieke is responsible for this daft comments.

OP abeg try again, when the real elders of ndigbo tell us their position on an obvious case of gross misappropriation of Nigeria's public funds, then you have a story.

babyosisi: He is an Obi

His name is Obi Nkeobikwu Osadume
Of Igbodo Kingdom

The traditional Prime Minister of Igbodo Kingdom is Dr Ifeanyi Unomah,


The president general of IDU worldwide is Chief Peterson Ozili-Chiemeke

A member of the Obi-in-Council, Chief Gilbert Nwaije

And they are not Igbo
Bwahahahahahaha

Interesting analysis. I suppose your observations lends credence to the fact that some tribes just resolutely refuse to be associated with Ibo people despite having ibo sounding names and surprisingly almost similar cultures.

I think it is time that Igbos realise that iboland consists of - Anambra, Enugu, Imo, Abia and Ebonyi states only.

A cursory look at the Map of Nigeria suggests that the combination of those states - which is ultimately the state of Biafra is landlocked; for educational purposes, can any of our Biafran intellectuals explain how you intend to survive as an independent state without cooperation with the rest of Nigeria.

Note: Please spare me the usual nonsense that the SS will go with the SE, saying that automatically disqualifies your assertions because unfortunately for ibos, the SS is made up of several distinct ethnic groups and interestingly the ones who bear ibo names insist that they are definitely not ibos and they do not want their sons to marry ibo women.