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CAPTIVATOR:
Spit that fraud

They are not the same Class. One has nobody greater himself ( Hebrew 6:13) , the other admitted Someone is greater than him ( John 14:28)

What is the big deal about being great?


Greatness is only measurable among same things.
Can you say a ship is greater than a cow?

AntiChristian:
The message of Injeel brought by Jesus was a new message too which confirms the Torah that came before it

And the Qur'an confirmed the books that were revealed before it.

The book mohammed didn't know?

budaatum:
I am obviously not protesting. I am stating an opinion just as you are.

It is not the norm amongst we Yorubas for an 82 year old to call a 70 year old, son.

We Yorubas respect each other far more than for an 82 year old to insult a 70 year old that way.

Omoluabi.

I hail o.

MaxInDHouse:
Firstborn of humans or of God?

Both

budaatum:
An insecure need to claim seniority is an 82 year old calling a 70 year old, son, as if he was having children at 12.

That is the norm and normal among Yorubas.

The son is not protesting,

Are you?

They are both Yoruba men.
Omoluabi.


Respect is the trademark.

Ọmọ dáadáa.

E don beta for you make you do government like Oshiomole and Ambrose Alli.

There are fifu you must not follow....

You know their names?

AntiChristian:
He doesn't need it!

Injeel was for those Jesus was sent to!

We believe in it as an inspired message for the children of Israel that Jesus was sent to but it's useless for us!

So your prophet brought a new message from Allah that no Jews knew?

Make it stay there abeg

AntiChristian:
Of course the disciples he taught and some people he did made da'wah to will have copies! And this copies were spread everywhere!

This is another big lie!

Revelation ceased (Paused) but not didn't stop! I don't know why you Christians like to tell hidden lies like this!

The Qur'an is a separate book different from the Injeel, Zabur, Torah and others! They are all speech of Allah for the people they were for!

No one told you Injeel was to be in the Qur'an!

Did Mohammad know the injeel?

AntiChristian:
For Jesus to preach!

Did he write it down or told anyone to do so?

Antichristian. Who then have a copy?


Mind you, Mohammad's stopped receiving revelation after a guy known as Waraqa (his revelator) died.

Mohammed did not receive what was in the injeel before the death of Waraqa?

SarakiBukola:


Mossad killed Iran's President.

Told a friend who didn't believe. They didn't have to claim the kill. The aggrieved knew what went down.

I have spent decades reading up on their missions.

Part of their psychological warfare... they send a wreath of flowers and condolence message congratulating a wife on becoming a widow 2 weeks BEFORE an assassination.

And they never fail.

So imagine the chaos in the terrorist's household even before he eventually dies.

Do still remember a guy called Eli Cohen?

Janosky:
John 17:21-24
21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us
so that the world may believe that you have sent me.



22 I have given them the glory that you gave me,that they may be one as we are one—"

* In verse 22, did Jesus say he given the glory of verse 5 to the disciples?
Yes.

In verse 21, did Jesus Christ say "the disciples are in US?"



John 17:24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me
because you loved me before the creation of the world.


Oga, according to Jesus Christ @ John 17:24,Where would the disciples see the glory given to them?

In heaven , the disciples dwelling with God and his son Jesus Christ !

John 17:21-24 is another scriptural evidence against the man made invention of Nicene 326 AD.

Qoute the Nicean Creed.

Janosky:
John 17:21-24
21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us
so that the world may believe that you have sent me.



22 I have given them the glory that you gave me,that they may be one as we are one—"

* In verse 22, did Jesus say he given the glory of verse 5 to the disciples?
Yes.

In verse 21, did Jesus Christ say "the disciples are in US?"



John 17:24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me
because you loved me before the creation of the world.


Oga, according to Jesus Christ @ John 17:24,Where would the disciples see the glory given to them?

In heaven , the disciples dwelling with God and his son Jesus Christ !

John 17:21-24 is another scriptural evidence against the man made invention of Nicene 326 AD.

Good. Can you just qoute the Nicean Creed?

AntiChristian:
Injeel left the world with Jesus!

Na you be the liar!

Oldman liar!

What is the purpose of the injeel then?

Janosky:
Is John 14:28 & Hebrew 6:13 in your own Bible?

Trinitarians no want to use their brains.

John.16.27 - For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
John.17.8 - For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that[b] I came out from thee, [/b]and they have believed that thou didst send me.


John.17.5 - And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Mind the bolded.
These are Jesus words. . What do you say?

CAPTIVATOR:
God has class now? Interesting

Is Jesus and his Father the same class of God ?

Yes


What about your own?

AntiChristian:
The does not mention Islam! This is just one of your lies!
Yes, the Bible didn't mention Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam!

The Torah revealed to Moses and the Injeel revealed to Jesus did mention him.

See Father of lies! Where is the injeel?

Contrary to Antichristian's claim, the Bible traces Islam's origin and characteristics.
The Bible doesn't mention Mohammad in any place to be the heir of Ishmael

Biodun556:

Correction or fairy tale?

Happy birthday Sir.

CAPTIVATOR:
Jesus said the Father know. How can the Father know a day that's not yet determined ? The word " Know" indicate a knowledge already in the Father's reach.

Just admit the Son doesn't know this and therefore doesn't know all things.


The Greek word in John 1;1 is Theos, I was called Theos too, Where is the class coming from? Humans were called by Almighty God , the exact same thing Jesus was called ... God!

One thing in common - Jesus and You and I have a God. That one is above us all, that is the Almighty God. Speaking about him the bible said there is no one above him - Hebrew 6:13. Concerning Jesus, There is someone above Jesus , whom he can't do anything without getting authority from.

You are still dodging the question: are you and Jesus the same class of God, you being called God?

CAPTIVATOR:
It only means Jesus doesn't know all things.



The God of Jesus, is my God too ( John 20:18) . Jesus isn't Almighty, he has a God, just as I do.

Earlier, you claimed that if the day is not determined yet God is not God; are you thinking for God?

Honestly answer the questions:
Are you and Jesus called the same God? John 1: 1?
Are you of the same class of being?

These are simple questions.

Answer directly don't merry - go - round.
I know this is the method of JWs when you want to be dishonest.

Which family are talking about?

CAPTIVATOR:
We are talking about Mark 13 !!!!

Its straight and clear, only the Father know the day and hour. And I told you earlier when you said can someone know all things apart from a thing. If you don't know a thing, you don't know all things!!!

Apart from Mark 13, other scriptures are wrong right?

You claimed you are called God also, are you in the same class of God of Jesus?
Answer nah!

MaxInDHouse:
Delusion!

Why does your organization pick house to house evangelism, condemning others for not doing it and rejecting what he didn't outrightly reject being part of the Law?

Matt.23.23 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

CAPTIVATOR:
The Father won't know if it's yet to be determined. But he knows! Only the Father ! Still proving some things are beyond the reach of the Son.




None of the account omitted the Son. The Greek text included Son, maybe the translation you are using cause this confusion on you. Both verses said the Son doesn't know.



Then you don't know " ALL"


Now you know God called Other humans God too. We also exist in God's image .

Bring the Greek text that did not omit the Son. Even scholars have doubts of the writer of Mark, though attributed to John Mark.




The end of Mark 15 (excluding verse 47), along with Mark 16:1 in Codex Sinaiticus (c. AD 350)
Most critical scholars reject the early church tradition linking the gospel to John Mark, [6][7][8] who was a companion of Saint Peter, and it is generally agreed that it was written [/b]anonymously for a gentile audience, probably in Rome, sometime shortly before or after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD.[9][10]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark
re you the same as Jesus as you are referred to as God?
Why run away from the question?

Ifa told me to go to church. What do you say?

Islam originated from Islamabad.

These people are foolish.
They only need to take 50 male Muslim with four wives each from Northern Nigeria. In fifty years, they will be controlling birth rate .

CAPTIVATOR:
He call me God too, " Ye are God's "

Since your head isn't correct.

Why did Jesus said only the Father knows the days and hour if he knows it. Isn't that a Lie ? Simple question

Matt.24.36 - But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Mark.13.32 - But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.


There are many answers to the question.
1. It could be a yet to be determined day.
2. In one account, The Son was omitted, the difference in report is a subject to individual reporter
3. As posited by Emusan, the same disciples confessed that they are convinced that He knew all things.
Do you affirm, that their confession meant He knew all things apart from a thing?

He is called the express image of His being , are you that also?
Mind the bolded, how do you mean?

MaxInDHouse:
Cases of OFFERINGS in the New Testament!

And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites.Luke 21:2

Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea: Acts 11:29

For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not. Corinthians 8:12

But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. 2Corinthians 9:6-7
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All from the KJV

The only religion that is doing what Jesus commanded.
In Matthew 23:23 , Jesus didn't command to stop tithing nah?
He only emphasize to concentrate on weightier part of the Law not to leave tithing unpaid.
What do you say?