Stop replying to his posts. Stop fuelling this madness.
Augustine wants to say that Russia has never test fired the S-300, then fine, we all know its re.tarded - so ignore it. He only comes here to fight with people, so dont entertain him. The guy clearly has issues, he isnt a normal person and arguing only makes it worse.
For the sake of the thread. STOP.
The people responsible for the Milan project deserve to be executed.
SupremeCourt: Stop lying bro, you started this argument with @Xbee007 and you argued hot like pepper repeatedly !
Many people on this thread start fire, blow it hot, saying its okay, but when SupremeCourt join the talk you tell lies that he brought argument, derailment, insult, false data, blah blah blah. See how you started the original fight since December 28 with @Xbee007 :
See how people lie so much on this thread and devalue it.
I dont make things up sir. Mokopa missile missed target is news published in South Africa, not me saying it. APKWS 93% kill rate was said by BAE Plc not me. You find these truths painful brah.
If you want me to show mercy and save Denel, tell everybody to stop replying my APKWS comments.
Happy new year bro
The Mokopa has nothing to do with the APKWS.
Remember when the APKWS programme was cancelled cause of poor test performance?
Patchesagain: (He thinks firing a missile from one platform and feeding it targeting data from another platform, at max range, is easy)
The Makopa test firing in question was LOAL - High:
Prior to launch, target information must be supplied via the on-board sighting system or from an external source. After launch, the missile flies towards the target area, using the selected trajectory and fly-out method. During the terminal phase, the target must be illuminated by the on-board sighting system or a remote designator.
Frumentum: Someone here, I think it was Dayo, posted images of a UAV suspiciously resembling the Denel Bateleur, offered by your real not pretend rivals. You'd be amazed how much chutzpah they have, for example unsuccessfully ordering 1 each of every SA system in which they're interested, year after year .
Maybe they "liberated" the old chap responsible for the Bateleur from the banking world.
Or maybe they bought the plans as part of kickbacks for Denel masking their dealings with people they aren't supposed to.
andrewza: Special forces are trained to a far different level that is needed for a external deployment. Hence they where used. Police are not trained to fight armies.
The Alpha team members are mostly poached former STF and SASFB members.
I find it very interesting when Statesmen do this. Zuma has the Counter-Assault unit as was as the PPU to call on, both are para-military and both could certainly handle the threats one would likely face in Burundi.
Misuse!!!!! rumours some people* used to guard a homestead.
Why not just better equip the PPU's CAT alpha team. Heavy retractable weapons similar to the Dillon convoy escort vehicle or the Meerkat system on a civilian vehicle. And leave the SF to handle strategic needs.
tdayof: US has armed drones stationed in our neighboring countries since.
UAV are being brought down by manpads in the Middleeast. We have enough of them . Nigeria F-7s are also armed for Air to Air so there's something we can do about it.
America doesn't need armed drones to spy you. Their Armed drones will easily be detected by radar systems on ground.
Centrifude: DAMN!! I was about to go all liberal on you until I read this, and actually realised how true it is, I remember watching a documentary about the worst prisons in South Africa, and now that I think about it, the most violent and notorious convicts there were well known for committing homosexual acts, the worst part is that many on them denied the fact that their actions were homosexual and referred to the guy who was getting raped and paid for sex as the one who is homosexual, and they called them women, but the rapist still considered themselves as straight men.
It's similar to the stories I read about how spartans use to promote sexual relationships between men and the younger boys they were training, it was said it helped strengthen trust and their bond.
So I think you're right, I wouldn't feel safe or comfortable having such people, in a warzone... Unless it's in a place like Okinawa during WWII where soldiers had free reign to kill.
SupremeCourt: Boeing America signed agreement to build AHRLAC for South Africa in 2014, that secret did not leak out until years later when that same agreement was expanded further in 2016 meaning Boeing will do much more of the hi-tech work than we can ever imagine. Read the Boeing report again its 2014 America started building AHRLAC aircraft for South Africa, now you put your name logo on it and claim it. When it's time for export, South Africa will lie down flat on it's belly like agama lizard to beg America for export permit to sell what you claim you built.
Boeing and Paramount Group South Africa-based global defense and aerospace business, have expanded their 2014 agreement to cooperate on advanced mission system for Advanced, High Performance, Reconnaissance, Light Aircraft (AHRLAC). Boeing will develop an integrated mission system for the aircraft enabling ISR and light strike missions for AHRLAC safety & security, and military variants. —Boeing Media News March 8, 2016.
American Boeing company built 95% of AHRLAC aircraft for South Africa. End of story.
Bros, you and your people una be ogbologbo robbers.
Boeing will supply an avionics suite for certain customers. That's it.
patches689: 35mm Oelikon 102 GDF-002 + 48 modified GDF-005 units - being upgraded to Skysheild (project should be finished) 8 starstreak MANPADS + Thales Page continuous-wave (CW) low-observable battery air defence local warning radars 4 ESR220 Thutlwa radar 14 Thales Squire radar system (not sure if they are intergrated)
and... ~30 ZU-23-2 mounted on a SAMIL 100 truck (I think those may have been sold to Nigeria), some have armored cabins.
As you can see, strategic Air-Defence has never been a real imperative for the SANDF - even GBADS seems focused on building tactical capablities (defending a specific key position)
There are still the MANPAD version of the Starstreak 80 launchers or so.
ActivateKruger: This guy... What's an IED? Can't it be planted on the road like a mime? Doesn't it explode like a mine? Doesn't it have an explosion radius like a mine?
So tell me, what's the overage spacing between these vehicles in metres.? Then what would be a kill range of a counter-MRAP IED filled with sharpened metals?
frumentius: For decades now, such things have been known to fall off a truck in Pretoria or Johannesburg. Wait, we don't have the funds to implement. Maybe thrown in as a sweetener to your wannabe/lesser rivals & neighbours seeing we're trying to sell them a whole bunch of stuff?
Business booming!!!
maybe that's the reason people don't wanna close shop.