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ssaengine:
Interesting that they don't hide the propellers. I guess they feel such info is already public.

Under a great secrecy they are changed when they head out for ops or to sea.

Henry240:
Are the peacekeepers in that country vacationing?
I don't understand?

Politics.

jakeporeshenko:
One hell of a deal for UAE

Yes, that's how African countries should be doing these deals.

Local production. Customization will naturally follow.

On the good side Denel gets R & D to further develop their systems like the Al Tariq deal.

jakeporeshenko:
RG-35 from UAE in Libya

Produced under licensed and called the Jais (Leopard).

kikuyu1:
He specified the SA R4. Read the link.

That man served with the British SAS.

He's famous cause he led the SAS team that stormed the Iranian embassy in the 80s. He didn't serve with the SADF.

kikuyu1:
Exactly! The INSAS was meant to work in 30-celsius Kargil and 45+ celsius 100% humidity of Kanyakumari in the far south! As I always say,hear what the operator,the real life shooter says of a rifle or any other weapons system. In this case see what ex SAS John McAleese who fought in Rhodesia and was one the founders of 44 Para says of the R4 after it let him down:
http://www.oocities.org/odjobman/nomean.htm

How and why was such an operationally unready rifle issued??

He fought where? Northern Ireland and making the SAS famous.

There's another 44 Para somewhere besides SA?

Not Rhodesian SAS.

IbnSultaan:
What Nigeria is to West Africa South Africa to Southern Africa Kenya to east Africa Egypt to North Africa

There's Algeria in North Africa.
There's Uganda in East Africa.

Henry240:
Dropping bombs in the bush can never be compared to the NAF bombing targets with pin-point accuracy in a fully built up area in a combined assets deployment.

Like i said, show me operational efficiency, maybe then we can talk.

Shinning new toys, we got them

That gas never been the case.

The NAF fought in built up areas.

Efficiency in your backyard?

ActivateKruger:
Even if Botswana bought a squadron worth of F35s, our politicians would pretend like they didn't see them. I have a feeling we won't be buying anything flying for the next 30 years until those Gripens start falling off the sky... Even then it's gonna be a hard sell to the public why we need fighters.... South Africans, like the Swiss have has too much say on defence related matters. Our open national budget is our worse enemy, we need a black budget like the US where such things are procured and keep the very opinionated media out of it.

Not really.

Do you know since the Apartheid days South Africans always feared an invasion from the North!

Did you see how that Angolan Sukhoi story generated a lot of talk?

nemesis2u:
Msta-S2 self-propelled howitzers

Did the Russians fit a Jacuzzi somewhere inside that thing?

ssaengine:
I hope this move makes the South African government feel threatened, then plans get put in place to acquire Gripen E. One can only dream.

You EOP! enemy of progress!

Twin engine! Rafale!

Regaining the capability lost with the retirement of the Buccanear.

Henry240:
It would be a competition if they had the requisite operational efficiency.

In reality.

It isn't about backyard bombing but doctrine development, training, exercising etc.

tdayof:
You're indirectly telling me you do not have the money to conduct an airstrike or maintain operational presence on air outside your border?

The Gripens were deployed operationally outside SA.

patches689:
The justification is "skills development"

But yeah, smells like vanity to me

The industry isn't at a level to absorb them they'll be poached by big international companies.

Henry240:
The Nigerian Air Force chief knows why he is there, he means business.

The chief below him spent most of his time chasing rhinos in the bush.

Stop derailing your thread ma.....d man.


Those ops fall under boarder reccon. Some even went as far as saying maybe the Gripens should utilized for maritime surveillance. The former gives crews experience which would be useful in COIN missions while the latter would enable them to at times exercise with vessels our at sea enhancing their skills in areas like anti-shipping.

chkil0:
Could it be a denel turret also on algerian Nimr II who are built locally in Algeria ?

Looks like the SDROW.

nemesis2u:
copy paste ...................from INDRA

With many claims of Tejas possessing some degree of Stealth, it was necessary to analyze at how much degree does Tejas really possess stealth.

1.To begin with Tejas has a Radar Cross Section of 0.5 meter square ( public available figure ) which is among the lowest in 4th Generation Fighter Class.

2.Tejas also possess design advantages as Tejas has a smooth upper wing body blending possessed by other modern aircrafts like Rafale,Eurofighter Typhoon,F-22,PAK-FA and J-20 as well. This helps to avoid early detection as the corner reflections from AWACS aircraft's searching from above resulting in lower RCS with missiles and external sores hidden under the wing.

3.Tejas also has Y-intake also called bifurcated intake. Since,the engine fan blades are a prominent contributor in RCS, therefore Y intake buries the jet engine inside the fuselage so no engine parts are visible and thus increases the stealth characteristics.

4.Tejas design incorporates a high wing body fuselage blending implemented from behind, resulting bouncing off of searching radar waves from behind.

5.Tejas canopy is also another feature as radar waves normally enter the cockpit reflects of objects & possibly return to the radar and even the HMD of pilot itself contributes to RCS, and to prevent this the canopy of Tejas is coated with a thin film transparent conductor of Indium Tin Oxide. The coating is thin enough that it has no adverse effect on pilot vision and can reflect the radar waves away from the radar antenna.

6.Another addition to its varied features is that 90% of surface of Tejas is constructed entirely of carbon composites which are less reflective than metals. The Tejas employs C-FC materials for up to 45% of its airframe by weight, including in the fuselage (doors and skins), wings (skin, spars and ribs), elevons, tailfin,rudder, air brakes and landing gear doors. Composite materials are used to make an aircraft both lighter and stronger at the same time compared to an all-metal design, and the LCA’s percentage employment of C-FCs is one of the highest among contemporary aircraft of its class. Use of composite materials helps to decrease RCS as against an all-metal airframe.

7.Tejas, being a single-engine fighter is inherently less suspectible to IRST and heat-seeking missiles and its low profile ( smallest 4th generation aircraft by dimensions ) makes it potent in high intensity dogfights.
Though not designed as full-scale stealth it does possess some degree of stealth carrying on the legacy of inducing some degree of stealth in latest 21st century aircraft's.

picture: LCA landing back after a test sortie with the IFR (in flight refueling probe)

E stealth? Like the Swedish.

Henry240:
Nothing asthestically spectacular about this plane. It just looks like your everyday Gripen.

Look closer.

Henry240:
This is an unfortunate comment. Quite frankly, disgraceful.


That's common basic training they had in South Africa, something regularly carried out here at home.

It's not rocket science.

It's like an individual going about saying "thanks for the add" on facebook. It is not a favour, the Air Force paid for the service.

The volume of officers we train each year is very high, it is not unusual that men get trained abroad. We have been doing that since the air force was formed 53 years ago. In like fashion we train hundreds of other nationals in our defence colleges.

The current SAAF CAS was also trained in Nigeria.

Inaccurate!

If you are reffering to the CSAAF he wasn't trained in Nigeria. The officer you might be referring to retired he was the deputy CSAAF.

Picture related.

ssaengine:
...

If many wasn't an issue this would have been Rafale armed with A-Darter SRAAMs, T-Darter BVRAAMs and some local air to guided munition.

jln115:
apparently they were testing radar systems.......as you know Bloem is so flat you can check your dog running away for 3 days, thus pilots have no cover thus they have to fly as low as possible to avoid radar detection

EW systems.

With facilities like the ASCARI(Automated System for the Capture and Analysis of Radar Information), the Multi Emitter Environment Simulator (MEES) and the Infrared Mobile Laboratory (IRML) and more.

ActivateKruger:
Although he might face a disciplinary hearing but he's good, damn he is.

He did!

ActivateKruger:
Good God, that's bloody scary.. Why would someone want to fly so low.? Is it tactical?

Nope. The pilot decided to fly that low.

Why? ADRENALINE RUSH!!!!

chkil0:
algeria

Samurai!

ssaengine:
Denel Seeker 400. Apparently in operation with SA Defence Intelligence. Apparently.....

I don't get why they need this type of UAV.

Would have event made sense if it was for the arrmy Intelligence Formation. Enhancing the project Cytoon system.

frumentius:
For 61Mech, somewhere in Angola.

Isn't this 4 SAI moving up! As part of the reinforcements including the G6.

ActivateKruger:
Basic of course.

I think what is happening is that they are still benchmarking and will soon come up with a "concept".

Similar to SA when people were sent abroad to countries like Chile, Taiwan etc to train with their SF units.

nemesis2u:
BEML Mine Protected Vehicle

It is the Namibian Wer’wolf MK2 MRAP.

nemesis2u:
BEML Mine Protected Vehicle

Licenced production of the Namibian Wolf APC?

They look similar.

patches689:
I suspected as much

iKlwa is the retro-fitted Ratel
http://www.military-today.com/apc/iklwa.htm

Here's promotion video of the RG-35:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdEHvvlvCEY&itct=CBYQpDAYACITCKjrzaezqdQCFYS0VQodTD8GXlIYUkctMzUgZmFtaWx5IG9mIHZlaGljbGVz&hl=en&gl=ZA&client=mv-google

patches689:
1100+

~500 active duty
~600 reserve forces/storage

Now consider this.

Look at the number active with just the professionals... and look at the number of Badgers ordered... see a problem? Me too.

The iKlwa should have been green-lighted.

The Ratel will be replaced in a phased approached. The Badgers will come in drips and draps unlike during wartime.


The iKlwa become the RG-35 which is performing well with the UAE military. Produces there as the Jais(Leopard) MRAP.

lionel4power:
Anytime I see SAAGOnyx helicopter in formation it reminds me of AIR ASSAULT which SAAF were good at years back. I wonder if you guys still retained that capability.



if NAF had a like 20 Mi-17 we would been able to pull this type of operations in the flat plains of the N.E.

The army actually.

And yes that capability is still maintained.