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Xavier5:
Test screenings don't determine the performance of the film, recent happenings in Hollywood attest to that.

But Aquaman 2 will perform well although its possibility of grossing a billion is low, but it will make a minimum of $700M. It will take the path of Black Panther 2.


#Xavier
#DCian

And you saw this where? In the future?

This whole DCEU mess wouldn't have happened if WB hadn't ran from the initial plan they intended with Man of Steel franchise. Film grossed $660mill but WB were greedy to bring in the Trinity in what was supposed to be a sequel to MOS.
Had they done a true sequel to MOS, they would have known what they wanted going forward. But hey, they wanted a JL immediately.

abduleez1:
I also don't like Hoult for Superman. He's too broody.
I'd prefer David Corenswet even tho I haven't watched him perform. 🙃

Anyways, these castings does have their fans and some people excited by the outcome.
James Gunn has been doing good so far in terms of creatives joining his universe.

My own is, any actor coming should play Clark Kent and Superman as two separate persons like Christopher Reeves did. We should be given the idea of why people don't see Superman while looking at Clark. I don't mean making Clark too bumbling or a fool but distinct to Kal El. Recent iteration haven't gotten that. Cavill basically just played Superman and not Clark, same with Tyler Hoechlin but Hoechlin is better than Cavill in making Clark somehow different but he still didn't do enough.

Xavier5:
Test screenings doesn't determine the performance of films. There are movies with good test screenings that ended up performing badly and vice versa.

When the movie releases, we will know if it will perform well or not. But my bet is on the movie performing. I see it making a minimum of $700M. The possibility of it grossing a billion dollar will be low, but it will perform well. I see the Black Panther 2 scenario here.

And talking about being retained, Aquaman is already been retained. Aquaman 2, according to Gunn, is in the DCU. Its event is set after flash, and post flash era is the DCU.



#Xavier
#DCian

When the test screenings are bad, there usually is a problem with the film, which will call for rewrites and multiple reshoots. Even then, things might still be problematic. I have never heard of films that tested bad in screenings but ended up loved. Test screenings are for public viewers not critics by the way.

Xavier55:
Yay or nay

No one can beat Michael Rosenbaum as Lex Luthor. He played Lex while the others played crazies.
One thing with his Lex is, he was not an evil guy but someone forced to be bad.

Xavier55:
I hope Gunn gives details on the "rough memories" as regarding movies, characters and elements in movies. It's very vital. But I know that Aquaman, The Suicide Squad, and Peacemaker will be retained in the DCU. These might be the only movies that will be retained, or there might be others also.


#Xavier
#DCian

Aquaman hasn't done well in test screenings. Don't expect that movie to be retained.

abduleez1:
I solidly support this.

Almost zero goodwill. This Flash performance is overly surprising to me I'm still coming to gripes how it failed to resonate with audiences. It's not as If it's a bad movie.

People I would have loved to keep in the upcoming DCU are Robbie, Amanda, Cena and Sasha Calle, .
The rest should be rebooted. And when I say reboot, with this atomic bomb size of flop the flash is receiving, then James Gunn should just go for a HARD REBOOT.
It's over.

Let's just start afresh and not confuse future audience and totally leave the baggage of the previous regime.

I called this out years back but I was seen as being negative.
They should have just let the DCEU get it's perfect ending before rebooting. The Flash film could have been that. They should have made the JL2 and let The Flash end it all. The 2 films would have fetched them money and Goodwill. now they will be looking to get that from the DCU and The Flash and Shazam 2 have shown movie audiences no longer trust the brand.
Superman Legacy might end up not making the money they're thinking.

abduleez1:
I'm not even believing this bullshit. James is too versed in comic lore to make this schoolboy error.
After all, Zatanna is one of James Gunn's favourite female characters.

With the way James is going with his universe, I don't even see an actor being looked at or casted before even a writer or director is attached to such project.

The only people being casted or screentested at present are people potentially to be in Superman Legacy.

Nicholas Hoult as Superman? Hmmn, we better have a Superman who isn't a Clark Kent in the cape or a Kal El in glasses. Since Christopher Reeves and Brandon Routh, the recent films have no longer tried to hide Superman's identity. I mean it's ridiculous now when you have Clark standing tall like Superman and have the same voice as Superman.
They should make them different. Supes should have a different accent i.e typical American or British, something different from Clark's.

abduleez1:
Na premium waste to use Reverse Flash in a reboot movie of a dead franchise.

Better keep him proper for the DCU.

I just dey use style happy say dem no debut some of my loved and fave characters for this recent DCEU films like Swamp Thing, Etrigan the Demon, Lady Shiva, Circe, Hecate etc.

At this point, there's really no guarantee that the DCU will even reach 10 films. And in those 10 films,I doubt certain characters will even show up lol.
WB are always selling itself. If Zaslav doesn't get his profits,there are reports WBD will sell off again.

DC's only hope is for another company to buy them off from Warner Bros. At this stage, it's rinse and repeat.

abduleez1:
Na premium waste to use Reverse Flash in a reboot movie of a dead franchise.

Better keep him proper for the DCU.

I just dey use style happy say dem no debut some of my loved and fave characters for this recent DCEU films like Swamp Thing, Etrigan the Demon, Lady Shiva, Circe, Hecate etc.

It was a mistake announcing things too early. Again WB management have made very poor business decisions.
I still maintain they should have found a way to monetize the Snyder verse and give it it's perfect conclusion while slowly building hype for a rebooted universe. They created more damage casting everyone out while knowing there are films yet to be released.

This will place unnecessary pressure on the Gunnverse and trust me if the first 2 projects don't make bank, the whole thing is dead. And bye bye to DC films, hello Harry Potter franchise.

WBD want to make quick money as it is now and recent actions have already made them infamous.

BlackManta:
Tbh I love RF too much to have him wasted on a DCEU film as a mere plot device to help reset the timeline.

I rather he shows up for the first time in DCU.

He is a very good villain with way more potential. A good writer/director will get the best out of him.

I agree with you in one way and same time, I also disagree. There are multiple layers to RF and The Flash which can be exploited in different versions. I mean, there are already multiple Lex Luthors on TV and in film.

BlackManta:
That is impressive

A good DCEU movie. We don't get that often nowadays.

The last good DCEU movie I can think of is TSS and that was 2 years ago.

It's weird just thinking about it.

CGI is bad though. But I feel the film would have benefited from having a central villain, hence why RF would have been better.

BlackManta:
On a scale of 1 to 10 how would you rate the movie

A 7 for me.

SMUAG:
Since The Flash is ending the DCEU, I think it's better as they did not introduce him in the movie. For me I don't want a situation where we will get to see two version of him within a short space of time and the next thing we will be seeing will be the heavy comparison among who's the better one.

There's already bound to be a comparison. The CW versions.

*The Flash Movie review: What happened to the man in yellow?*

https://topnaija.ng/the-flash-movie-review-what-happened-to-the-man-in-yellow/

abduleez1:
While I believe this is the way to go for the new Swamp Thing movie and I'm not bothered how they go about it so far as they deliver great quality storywise and as well as practical effects which the show excelled in.

Minemrys has a point and I understand him. The storytelling in that show was top notch as well as acting & CGI and actually nailing the eerie feeling of Swamp Thing universe. It's one of the GOATED shows DC has ever produced and I rate it after Watchmen series in terms of premium quality. The price of the show was it's downfall.

Anyways, early news I got from the upcoming movie is that cast members for the movie are returning. So far no drastic changes are made at least we can expect the Allec Holland and Abby Arcane actors as well as the villain. It was great storytelling and world building they were telling then with the possible link ups with Madame Xanadu and Blue Devil.

The interconnectedness of the Swamp Thing Universe is why I love the upcoming projects and praise James Gunn for his vision (even tho it may seem I d|¢krid€ his plans at times). 😅😅

You get. The series sef wasn't aligned with any universe when it aired sef. They had already built up the characters that it will be easier to just get on with moving forward the narrative than reintroducing the characters in a new telling.

Xavier5:
And you knew all this because of a Divine revelation or what.

Film never come out, una don dey criticise. Let Gunn do his thing first before we can tell if it's good/ better or not.

Again, there's no so called established mark that can never be beaten.



Origin story or not, a good film is a good film if done well. Your problem should not be if it's an origin story or not, your problem should be if the film will be done well.


#Xavier
#DCian

Am not criticizing, just stating my opinion. The series was onto something, which I feel instead of going back to reintroduce the character again, they can just move on with a sequel to the series.

Xavier5:
What story exactly did the series tell?

There is no so called mark that can't be beaten.


#Xavier
#DCian

You don't get it. There's no direction they're going to take that will beat the story already established. Let's face it, there's going to be an origin story, whether we like it or not in one way or another.

Xavier5:
Na the exact same thing wey I bin wan para for but I just say make respect my young age face front before dem go say I no get respect for elders 😌😂.


#Xavier
#DCian

Hehehe I can't imagine how I forgot Xavier and BankyGee, a lot of people I forgot sef. Like @therealhulk616.

BankyGee:
Nice one, nice one, nice one 👏🏾

I no be DC fan again abi? 🚶🏾‍♂️🚶🏾‍♂️🚶🏾‍♂️

Lol, my bad. Seriously. How far you na?

phr0nesis:
Zod was just getting used to his new abilities; Jor El on the hand had already mastered them while growing up

Joe El was a scientist on Krypton. Zod was a military officer who got beat down in hand to hand combat. No powers on Krypton.

Xavier5:
The old swamp thing wasn't part of the DCEU, while the new one will, that's the reason for the change in characters.

But I read that the new Swamp Thing is going to feature some original cast and some new ones. This is one of the new ones.


#Xavier
#DCian

Why can't it be? I mean there's hardly any story they can tell that will beat what the series did.

Xavier5:
Your takes 😏

Nice one but why not go with the old cast of the series? Is there really any story they want to tell that they can't with that cast?

SMUAG:
Yes, but even on Krypton General Zod was way superior to anything Kara Zor - El could be and also Gen. Zod too doesn't holdback.
My own be say make them no allow one small girl dey come disgrace a whole General Zod.

Lol funny enough you are right. Then again, Zod got beaten by Jor El and a farm boy.

SMUAG:
The Flash movie will definitely revive it in good...
The movie looks promising, but one thing I may have noticed and don't like is how Supergirl is harassing a whole General Zod.. I just hope the main movie turns out different. No way on earth Kara Zor- El will be using Gen. Zod's mouth to mop the floor. I just hope they are not throwing those feminism rubb**sh down our throats oh....

I think it is self explanatory. Kara didn't grow up with the Kent's. She grew up on Krypton and doesn't hold herself back. So she technically doesn't have any mental block holding her like Superman. she is not scared of fighting dirty. That's how she is in the comics I guess.

BlackManta:
Anytime I see this thread I just remember that the DCEU as we know it ends in barely 6 months

I hope The Flash, Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2 turns out to be a crowd pleasing conclusion to this awry cinematic experiment

Till we return with Gunnverse in 2025

Gunnverse. Can't say I will be invested in it lol.

pu7pl3:
Tbh I really did forget about this thread.
Most of our DC talks ar now on the movies thread.

Funny enough I haven't been on Nairaland for a while. Movies no longer Interest me aside Romcoms these days. Adult life hits different for me I guess.

abduleez1:
Well, I still post here once in a while but after seeing no response, I too stopped posting. Funny enough I still visit here at least twice a week.

DC talks is now majorly discussed in the movies thread.

Lol, the no direction level of the franchise has left everyone uninterested I guess. Can't say I am that hyped about it anymore sef.

Never thought a day will come when this thread will be dead...
@SMUAG, @pu7pl, @thekingishere, @abduleez1, @TonySpike @raalsalghul @el where you all at na? Long time. Hope you all are still hitting the ground running?

Silentgroper:
Getting midfielders means trent still might nt get d role..

cause i heard klopp isnt looking to get a Rb..

I'd say klopp tweaks his formation to accomodate trent. A three man at d back where trent becomes a wing back and can operate 4rm d midfield better...

what do you think?

Anfieldfan
Minemrys
Uniqueuser
jodera
Danielnino00

What I heard is, Liverpool are looking at Conor Bradley as the RB option. And putting Trent in Midfield has nothing to do with buying a RB. We have one in Joe Gomez. Klopp can tweak tactics but he doesn't want to. His rigidity cost us this season.

AnfieldFan:
So you haven't heard of any bid? I'm glad we've established this ...

You have just heard publications talking about interest.... We have heard publications talk about interest in Liverpool too, from India to the USA and the middle East.....

I'm curious still, which credible publications are these you are talking about?
Daily Mail, Sun m

Athletic and the Guardian alongside Sky Sports are reliable, I just want to know the ones you're talking about in particular...

Those guys you mentioned came out to debunk it. About United, no one has debunked it. Just recently Gary Neville was talking about Apple's interest in buying the club. No one has done that about Liverpool on live TV. I just read a man close to FSG aren't in a hurry to sell. He was the one who helped Boehly buy Chelsea and also was part of the sale to FSG back in the day.
FSG don't want to sell.

AnfieldFan:
I would say Liverpool's sale is a bit more complicated because a significant portion of the fan base doesn't want the club sold to Arabs ..

Also, do you have a credible source as regards to the bids you've heard for Man U?
How much was bid and why was the bid turned down?

What I mean is, we have heard publications talking about certain billionaires being after the club's purchase and some publicly declaring interest which is different for Liverpool.