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mikuz:
He was very much under appreciated. 100k for a club legend? That's abysmal.

If he was under appreciated, his PR agent wouldn't deny it would he?
Bros, if you think he was underpaid, ask yourself what medical practitioners earn in the UK. You don't know the figures, don't act like you do when his agent already said it.

EgusiShankly:
Mane was abysmal for 18months and he admitted that himself yet Klopp didn't drop him for other options.

I believe dis guy possibly started following lfc in recent years, so I will wait for his reasons

Come to think of it, Mane started putting up the numbers the minute Salah came.

EgusiShankly:
Care to explain how Mane was treated?

I tire oh. Even the Salary nonsense, his agent debunked it. This was a Mane who had a very bad form last season that the club stayed behind.
Or did Liverpool owe him wages? No.
Some fans are just annoying sha. This why I hate people who fan players, I don't take them serious.
As it is, I don't fan any specific player in Liverpool or even have a favorite. Anyone leaves, good for him. We throw him a farewell and we move on.
What this club did for me in times I was depressed, I won't forget it.

mikuz:
If if if if if . . . We could have won the league last season if we had beaten Man City at Anfield going by your logic. You cannot tie your success in the league to a particular team. You can lose against your greatest rivals and still win the league! Winning the league is ultimate.

Sure, but Klopp finding it hard to win Everton speaks more about the fixture. No just argue this thing. Merseyside derby is not an ordinary fixture just as Man City vs Liverpool is now a big fixture.
I no go follow you talk again on this same issue if you continue arguing something that shouldn't be argued.

mikuz:
We lost the league in 2019 because of Everton. What tha?
E be like I go leave this thread for una because the kind things I dey read here every dey turn my stomach.
Man City won the league 2 seasons ago while losing home and away to Man Utd.

Man Utd were busy celebrating beating City while City were celebrating running away with the title because no sensible club places priority on winning senseless derbies wins over winning the league.

What is Everton? Why should I care about beating a team that almost got relegated last season? What bragging rights are you guys talking about? Man City is turning the EPL to a monopoly but Everton is more important

Oga, I don't have time for argument. Everton was the last draw we had in 2018/19 if we had won that game as you claim it was inconsequential, we would have won the league. Since Klopp became manager we won Everton back to back in the league just last season. And you saw how difficult that was.

mikuz:
I don't see the rivalry you guys are talking about here. Wikipedia already rubbished all that by calling it THE FRIENDLY DERBY.

Why it's called the friendly derby is because in a family of scousers you can have a red and a blue and in games both are often sat together.
It is not divided by politics, religion or anything but it doesn't stop it from being fierce. That game ended our season in 2020/21 because of Van Dijk injury and Thiago injury.
We lost the league in 2018/19 against Everton.
I didn't hate Everton before but now I really despise them like I do United. The Everton vs Lfc game was huge then when Everton and Liverpool were big clubs and competed against each other for English titles.

Carot:
Guys how true is this?
Martian Manhunter is capable of reading the minds of all inhabitants of Earth at once.

Yea, he is a telepath and he did it in the JL animated series.

BankyGee:
I swear down bro. Maybe setting it entirely outside the Arrowverse is for the best after all. I just hope HBO Max can take it up from here, then more wonders can happen with the series.
It's been confirmed Tom Cavanagh is set to direct Season 3's pilot episode. Me no wan sha get The Flash's vibes inside the episode o

He has directed the series before actually.

nani667:
°°°°°

For real? Why did she sign another contract?

BankyGee:
Just watched the Superman and Lois finale, and it's one of the best Comic Book Series' finales I've watched in a while.
I can now 100% agree with the bolded, because it was clear, even a blind person would attest to it
One of the characters I really enjoy and applaud is this General Lane guy (every cast is perfect tho), the man dey give me premium joy I swear.
SaL just feels like a sequel to 2001's Smallville.
Doesn't feel like a CW show either
Season 2 - 8/10
I really enjoyed the ride!
Can't wait, while patiently waiting for Season 3!
We move

I so love the Sam Lane character. All the characters are well written even the villains.

Silentgroper:
But most times, d woman who wants us are not the one we want.. Has happened to me twice..

Life is never really fair though. But seriously, if you have someone who wants you, best to stick by them.

talk2hb1:
On Point, that's why you will have difficulties with relationship if you have money. They will only like your money, not you.

O boy, e better make you get the money oh... whether person love or them no love you, one day we go die leave love. What matters is you. And only you.

Skseries:
will have been better if they recast affleck and show the new actor at the end of the flash, same batman, but just look di

To me, they should have gone with Jeffrey Morgan's Thomas Wayne. Then if the plan was to bring back Affleck again, it will be a progression of his character

abduleez1:
Seems Superman is IN Black Adam. Leaks from test screening says Amanda Waller tells Supes she has someone that can take him on.

Don't know why Waller would want Supes taken down. I mean, between Supes and Black Adam who is more dangerous?

AnfieldFan:
Kloppo
Silentgroper
Finesse
CapDan21
Minemrys
Openmine
Uniqueuser

How do y'all feel about FSG's decision to go into next season without adding a CDM...I understand we are keeping Ox, Morton could be given more game time as a CDM...Fabio can play as a 10, Bobby will be a 10 too...I really wanted Barella, maybe we go back for him in January...

Elliot will have more chances to play his preferred right wing in cup games , since Salah never gets injured..

All in all, I feel like if we get Barella(I know it's not happening), we might tip City to the league...

I think the plan is to see what happens in pre season.

Xavier5:
1.) Does anti climax stop a franchise from being rebooted if there's need to? NO.

So what's the argument about?

2.) In a rebooted franchise, will there be changes in characters and arcs? YES.

So what's the argument about?

3.) Is there any law that stops a franchise from being rebooted if there's a hanging story despite the need to reboot? NO

So what exactly is the argument about?

To be sincere, I'm tired of this argument. I'm tired of having to repeat myself over and over and over again. Such argument bores and drains me.

So this is the last time I'm going to respond on this issue, but they're four things you need to know;

1.) No law stops a franchise from being rebooted if there's need to.

2.) In a rebooted franchise, some characters and stories will be erased irrespective of whether they're complete or not, hanging or not, developed or not.

3.) In a rebooted franchise, new characters and stories will be introduced and explored.

4.) Anti climax does not prevent a franchise from being rebooted.

So that's it for me and this argument. I'm done.

You can either choose to keep on complaining why they ended Batfleck arc with the reboot or you can choose to look forward to the plans they have for Keaton's Batman. Your choice

Adieus.


#Xavier
#DCian

Bros, there's no argument in this. People listen or watch stories to see a beginning, middle and end. Not a beginning, middle, prologue.
I don't even know why I stayed in this conversation for so long.

Xavier5:
Can you show me any law that states that you can't reboot a universe when a story is hanging

There is no such law. Such law doesn't exist, which means a studio can choose to reboot a universe if they feel there's a need to do so. We see cases like that in the comics.

Studios don't just wake up and reboot a franchise. They have to be a reason for them to do so, and if they have that reason then they do it irrespective of whether stories are hanging or not.

So if WB/DC feel that the DCEU should be rebooted which results in certain arcs being wiped off and left hanging, there is nothing wrong with that. There's no law that prevents them from doing so.

It's a matter of choice. So I don't see what this complains are about.

As for marvel studios rebooting the MCU and bringing in Toby's Spiderman.
Marvel will and can reboot the universe if and only if they see a need to but if there's no reason for them to do so, they won't.
And if there's a reason for reboot which they decide to do and they choose to bring in Toby's Spiderman, so far they're going to establish a story arc for him, moving forward in the rebooted universe, then there's nothing senseless about that

Don't forget, if our reality is to bee rebooted, some persons will be wiped off resulting in their story arcs being left hanging. So if this is the case, I don't see why this is a problem in the DCEU.


So technically, I don't see why you're just making a fuss over it.
Always remember, there's no one way to run a franchise and if such is to happen in our reality, the outcome will be similar.


#Xavier
#DCian

It's what they call anti climax.

Xavier5:
As I have said, the universe is being rebooted and as a result of that, lots of stories will be discarded, lots of stories will be introduced.

It doesn't matter whether an arc was originally part of the universe or not, the reboot chops it off or keeps it or introduces it.

Whether Batfleck arc is hanging or not, it doesn't mean anything. If the reoot demands his arc to be cut off, it will.

As I also said, Batfleck is not the only Batman with an arc and nothing stops his arc from being affected by the rebooted timeline. Nothing also stops a new Keaton's Batman arc from being introduced and explored.

Ask yourself, if our reality is to be rebooted, don't you think some arc will be wiped off? Of course they will. In the case of the DCEU Batfleck arc just happened to be one of those arcs.

It's not zig zag story telling, this is because same process will occur, if it's to be applied in reality. If reality is to be rebooted, some people and their arcs will be wiped off from existence. So yes, it's not a zig zag story telling pattern rather it's a realistic process or concept if applied to reality.

Besides, the rebooting model has been used to reset and change the DC universe numerous times in the comics which led to lots of characters and arcs been erased especially undeveloped ones. So I wonder why it's an issue when it comes to the DCEU and it's Batman.

Also, they aren't taking us back 30 years backwards because Keaton's Batman exist in the present albeit in a different universe and also the reboot merges two universe together. I don't see how that takes us back 30 years.

Batfleck isn't returning, not to my knowledge. Keaton is taking his place as the new Batman. Keaton's Batman will usher in his own arc into the DCEU which will begin at Batgirl and end in JL 3 or 4.

As for continuity, the Snyder continuity will be erased and a new continuity will be introduced after the Flash movie. Batfleck has no business with the new continuity. So whatever significant role he played was in the old continuity and they will be of no importance in the rebooted continuity. Keaton's Batman is going to have a significant role in the rebooted continuity and that's what WBD/ DC is focused on.

You should should stop bothering about the past and what should have been and instead focus on the present and what's coming.


#Xavier
#DCian

Bros, you don't just reboot a universe when stories are freaking hanging. That's bad story telling. It's like MCU rebooting after Civil War, then bringing back Tobey Maguire's Spiderman.
Does it make any sense?
Which is why the reboot that's being done now, makes sense on the marvel part, cause if they choose to bring back old films, it will be an improvement not a step back cause they have developed the current ones.

Xavier5:
The DCEU Batman is Micheal Keaton. This is seen in his appearance in Batgirl, a movie set after the Flashpoint, a rebooted era.

There is nothing wrong in bringing in Micheal Keaton's Batman. This is because they are going with the rebooting model. When you're rebooting a universe, things change. Whatever has been in existence is subject to change. Some things will be eliminated, some thngs will be brought in while otuers will still be around.

If they are rebooting the universe whatever arc they set up with Batfleck will be wiped off and they will continue with a new arc with Keaton's Batman. Batfleck is not the only Batman with an arc, Keaton's Batman also has an arc or will also have an arc which they will establish and explore.

So I don't see any problem with this route WBD/ DC have chosen to tow.


#Xavier
#DCian

Keaton's arc was never in a Cinematic Universe, and from what I recall, it fleshed out its character with 2 stand alone films. Affleck's character didn't have much of a development other than what the plot gave him.
There was a lot that was built about Bruce.
You want to reboot it, then reboot it with a continuity that doesn't drag the plot backwards. This shit just took us back 30 years. There really is no point bringing back Keaton.
Bro, you are a writer, you know this. This is just zig zag story telling not creativity.
You can defend it all you want but if there's a story hanging, and just for no reason, you leave it half way to go and concentrate on another story that doesn't improve what you have built, it's plain stupid.
If the plan is to bring back Affleck later on, why introduce Keaton? I have nothing against Keaton but I am all for continuity.

Nickshrapnel:
The Flash movie will tell us who the DCEU Batman is.

Next year would be a real hard year for WBD, how till they promote Aquaman/Flash?

Who cares? Thank God there are other better stuff out there

Xavier5:
If this is true then these confirms my hypothesis that the DCEU Batman won't be getting any solo movie of his own rather he will be in JL movies and a supporting character in movies that involves him with plans to give him a heroic farewell in JL 3 or 4.

We will be getting Batman movies in Battinson.


#Xavier
#DCian

Who is even the DCEU Batman?
Seriously, I don't see the point bringing Michael Keaton back. Plot wise they should have gone with Jeffrey Dean Morgan. That would have been a more compelling story that would be a development to Ben Affleck's Batman. Michael Keaton as Batman just takes everything backwards when Batfleck isn't even developed.
It's just chaotic story telling to me.
The flash film will so receive a lot of hate cause what I am hearing from those who went for the test screening is that the story is just average.
Only thing that was praised was Miller's acting.

abduleez1:
Yep. Look at the pic again. SS came before JL.

It doesn't look that way in the pics. Even Aquaman is before JL. Wow.

[quote author=abduleez1 post=114099826][/quote]How convenient especially considering the person knows they could go to jail for this.

abduleez1:
It's definitely gonna be set in the present.

Suicide squad came before JL. Don't forget it was after Midway that batfleck met Waller for that dosier that had files on Ezra Miller and Arthur Curry.

TheMaterialist:
Ezra Miller Reminds me of Heath Ledger's JOKER.

As Alfred said in The Dark Knight:

"Some Men Cannot be reasoned with,

Some Men Just want to watch the world burn."

Nah. Ezra Miller is just mentally disturbed. Joker is just an anarchist.

abduleez1:
@ Purpl3 you Sabi this team??

They're like suicide squad but without crazy villains. More like CIA. They mainly consist of the elite and influential folks I think.
I have been waiting for this group after Amanda Waller's introduction to the DCEU. Appeared in Smallville though.

BankyGee:
Happy birthday to me guys!

Happy Birthday bro

10thDentist:
Flash missing, vanishes in crisis!

CW saw the future all along.

openmine:
Liverpool 'ready swap deal bid' for Nicolo Barella who Jurgen Klopp wants 'at all costs'
Liverpool could be set to offer Naby Keita in exchange for Inter Milan midfielder Nicolo Barella according to reports. The Italian side are rumoured to have placed a £77 million transfer fee on Jurgen Klopp's target, which is beyond what the Anfield side are willing to pay. They are therefore looking at adding Keita to the deal in order to bring the price down.
Barella is one of the key stars within the Inter squad and has another four years on his contract, hence the high asking price. The 39-times capped international played 48 games in all competitions for the Serie A runners up last season, scoring four goals and contributing a further 13 assists.
Keita joined Liverpool in a £50million deal in 2018, inheriting Steven Gerrard’s famous number eight shirt. He has failed to properly impress at Liverpool, however, often finding himself left on the bench at the expense of the preferred midfield trio of Thiago, Fabinho and Jordan Henderson. Now he could be set to leave the club as a makeweight in a deal for the former Cagliari midfielder.

My Opinion: Still a rumor but will be delighted to have a player like Barella in that midfield!

Fabrizio Romano has proved it's false. Liverpool are planning to give Keita a new contract. No more signings unless Klopp sees something in pre season.

Kloppo:
Jota,midfielder?

Sure. He has played as one for Liverpool before in a 4-4-2. He has dropped deeper in a few games before.

EgusiShankly:
Those stringy Yanks. Buy midfielder that is an obvious need for the team, they are waiting till next summer

I think we are going to change system this season and use less Midfield. I see us using double 6 pivot Midfield of Fabinho, Thiago, Henderson, Keita, Chamberlain, Trent this season. A 4-2-3-1or 4-4-2. Don't forget Jota is also a midfielder.

openmine:
Hasn't he won the league before?
We don't need this unnecessary pressure!
We are not mancity or PSG fans that believe in pressuring a coach or player to deliver and then boot him out when things don't go well!
We LFC fans are always patient and trust our coach to deliver no matter what happens!
This is why we love klopp!

Oga, it's not pressure. He who is given more, a lot is expected. This team has underachieved.
We played 2 fucking finals without scoring. Even the UCL was a shitty game we played.
Liverpool used to win titles yearly prior to the 90s, we have only won 1 in 3 years now. This team isn't filled with average players. You would think we or Klopp would have learnt from 2018/19. It took Klopp 6 years to win Carabao and FA Cup.
He is too stiff. He needs to tweak in games not using same tactics with every team.
He should play to his players strength.
Imagine Klopp played a highline against Real Madrid last two seasons with Matt Philips and Williams in defense. Is that not stupid?
It was until later that he learnt that these guys weren't fast or understood the ideology.
We should start playing like City.