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Skseries:
will have been better if they recast affleck and show the new actor at the end of the flash, same batman, but just look di

To me, they should have gone with Jeffrey Morgan's Thomas Wayne. Then if the plan was to bring back Affleck again, it will be a progression of his character

abduleez1:
Seems Superman is IN Black Adam. Leaks from test screening says Amanda Waller tells Supes she has someone that can take him on.

Don't know why Waller would want Supes taken down. I mean, between Supes and Black Adam who is more dangerous?

AnfieldFan:
Kloppo
Silentgroper
Finesse
CapDan21
Minemrys
Openmine
Uniqueuser

How do y'all feel about FSG's decision to go into next season without adding a CDM...I understand we are keeping Ox, Morton could be given more game time as a CDM...Fabio can play as a 10, Bobby will be a 10 too...I really wanted Barella, maybe we go back for him in January...

Elliot will have more chances to play his preferred right wing in cup games , since Salah never gets injured..

All in all, I feel like if we get Barella(I know it's not happening), we might tip City to the league...

I think the plan is to see what happens in pre season.

Xavier5:
1.) Does anti climax stop a franchise from being rebooted if there's need to? NO.

So what's the argument about?

2.) In a rebooted franchise, will there be changes in characters and arcs? YES.

So what's the argument about?

3.) Is there any law that stops a franchise from being rebooted if there's a hanging story despite the need to reboot? NO

So what exactly is the argument about?

To be sincere, I'm tired of this argument. I'm tired of having to repeat myself over and over and over again. Such argument bores and drains me.

So this is the last time I'm going to respond on this issue, but they're four things you need to know;

1.) No law stops a franchise from being rebooted if there's need to.

2.) In a rebooted franchise, some characters and stories will be erased irrespective of whether they're complete or not, hanging or not, developed or not.

3.) In a rebooted franchise, new characters and stories will be introduced and explored.

4.) Anti climax does not prevent a franchise from being rebooted.

So that's it for me and this argument. I'm done.

You can either choose to keep on complaining why they ended Batfleck arc with the reboot or you can choose to look forward to the plans they have for Keaton's Batman. Your choice

Adieus.


#Xavier
#DCian

Bros, there's no argument in this. People listen or watch stories to see a beginning, middle and end. Not a beginning, middle, prologue.
I don't even know why I stayed in this conversation for so long.

Xavier5:
Can you show me any law that states that you can't reboot a universe when a story is hanging

There is no such law. Such law doesn't exist, which means a studio can choose to reboot a universe if they feel there's a need to do so. We see cases like that in the comics.

Studios don't just wake up and reboot a franchise. They have to be a reason for them to do so, and if they have that reason then they do it irrespective of whether stories are hanging or not.

So if WB/DC feel that the DCEU should be rebooted which results in certain arcs being wiped off and left hanging, there is nothing wrong with that. There's no law that prevents them from doing so.

It's a matter of choice. So I don't see what this complains are about.

As for marvel studios rebooting the MCU and bringing in Toby's Spiderman.
Marvel will and can reboot the universe if and only if they see a need to but if there's no reason for them to do so, they won't.
And if there's a reason for reboot which they decide to do and they choose to bring in Toby's Spiderman, so far they're going to establish a story arc for him, moving forward in the rebooted universe, then there's nothing senseless about that

Don't forget, if our reality is to bee rebooted, some persons will be wiped off resulting in their story arcs being left hanging. So if this is the case, I don't see why this is a problem in the DCEU.


So technically, I don't see why you're just making a fuss over it.
Always remember, there's no one way to run a franchise and if such is to happen in our reality, the outcome will be similar.


#Xavier
#DCian

It's what they call anti climax.

Xavier5:
As I have said, the universe is being rebooted and as a result of that, lots of stories will be discarded, lots of stories will be introduced.

It doesn't matter whether an arc was originally part of the universe or not, the reboot chops it off or keeps it or introduces it.

Whether Batfleck arc is hanging or not, it doesn't mean anything. If the reoot demands his arc to be cut off, it will.

As I also said, Batfleck is not the only Batman with an arc and nothing stops his arc from being affected by the rebooted timeline. Nothing also stops a new Keaton's Batman arc from being introduced and explored.

Ask yourself, if our reality is to be rebooted, don't you think some arc will be wiped off? Of course they will. In the case of the DCEU Batfleck arc just happened to be one of those arcs.

It's not zig zag story telling, this is because same process will occur, if it's to be applied in reality. If reality is to be rebooted, some people and their arcs will be wiped off from existence. So yes, it's not a zig zag story telling pattern rather it's a realistic process or concept if applied to reality.

Besides, the rebooting model has been used to reset and change the DC universe numerous times in the comics which led to lots of characters and arcs been erased especially undeveloped ones. So I wonder why it's an issue when it comes to the DCEU and it's Batman.

Also, they aren't taking us back 30 years backwards because Keaton's Batman exist in the present albeit in a different universe and also the reboot merges two universe together. I don't see how that takes us back 30 years.

Batfleck isn't returning, not to my knowledge. Keaton is taking his place as the new Batman. Keaton's Batman will usher in his own arc into the DCEU which will begin at Batgirl and end in JL 3 or 4.

As for continuity, the Snyder continuity will be erased and a new continuity will be introduced after the Flash movie. Batfleck has no business with the new continuity. So whatever significant role he played was in the old continuity and they will be of no importance in the rebooted continuity. Keaton's Batman is going to have a significant role in the rebooted continuity and that's what WBD/ DC is focused on.

You should should stop bothering about the past and what should have been and instead focus on the present and what's coming.


#Xavier
#DCian

Bros, you don't just reboot a universe when stories are freaking hanging. That's bad story telling. It's like MCU rebooting after Civil War, then bringing back Tobey Maguire's Spiderman.
Does it make any sense?
Which is why the reboot that's being done now, makes sense on the marvel part, cause if they choose to bring back old films, it will be an improvement not a step back cause they have developed the current ones.

Xavier5:
The DCEU Batman is Micheal Keaton. This is seen in his appearance in Batgirl, a movie set after the Flashpoint, a rebooted era.

There is nothing wrong in bringing in Micheal Keaton's Batman. This is because they are going with the rebooting model. When you're rebooting a universe, things change. Whatever has been in existence is subject to change. Some things will be eliminated, some thngs will be brought in while otuers will still be around.

If they are rebooting the universe whatever arc they set up with Batfleck will be wiped off and they will continue with a new arc with Keaton's Batman. Batfleck is not the only Batman with an arc, Keaton's Batman also has an arc or will also have an arc which they will establish and explore.

So I don't see any problem with this route WBD/ DC have chosen to tow.


#Xavier
#DCian

Keaton's arc was never in a Cinematic Universe, and from what I recall, it fleshed out its character with 2 stand alone films. Affleck's character didn't have much of a development other than what the plot gave him.
There was a lot that was built about Bruce.
You want to reboot it, then reboot it with a continuity that doesn't drag the plot backwards. This shit just took us back 30 years. There really is no point bringing back Keaton.
Bro, you are a writer, you know this. This is just zig zag story telling not creativity.
You can defend it all you want but if there's a story hanging, and just for no reason, you leave it half way to go and concentrate on another story that doesn't improve what you have built, it's plain stupid.
If the plan is to bring back Affleck later on, why introduce Keaton? I have nothing against Keaton but I am all for continuity.

Nickshrapnel:
The Flash movie will tell us who the DCEU Batman is.

Next year would be a real hard year for WBD, how till they promote Aquaman/Flash?

Who cares? Thank God there are other better stuff out there

Xavier5:
If this is true then these confirms my hypothesis that the DCEU Batman won't be getting any solo movie of his own rather he will be in JL movies and a supporting character in movies that involves him with plans to give him a heroic farewell in JL 3 or 4.

We will be getting Batman movies in Battinson.


#Xavier
#DCian

Who is even the DCEU Batman?
Seriously, I don't see the point bringing Michael Keaton back. Plot wise they should have gone with Jeffrey Dean Morgan. That would have been a more compelling story that would be a development to Ben Affleck's Batman. Michael Keaton as Batman just takes everything backwards when Batfleck isn't even developed.
It's just chaotic story telling to me.
The flash film will so receive a lot of hate cause what I am hearing from those who went for the test screening is that the story is just average.
Only thing that was praised was Miller's acting.

abduleez1:
Yep. Look at the pic again. SS came before JL.

It doesn't look that way in the pics. Even Aquaman is before JL. Wow.

[quote author=abduleez1 post=114099826][/quote]How convenient especially considering the person knows they could go to jail for this.

abduleez1:
It's definitely gonna be set in the present.

Suicide squad came before JL. Don't forget it was after Midway that batfleck met Waller for that dosier that had files on Ezra Miller and Arthur Curry.

TheMaterialist:
Ezra Miller Reminds me of Heath Ledger's JOKER.

As Alfred said in The Dark Knight:

"Some Men Cannot be reasoned with,

Some Men Just want to watch the world burn."

Nah. Ezra Miller is just mentally disturbed. Joker is just an anarchist.

abduleez1:
@ Purpl3 you Sabi this team??

They're like suicide squad but without crazy villains. More like CIA. They mainly consist of the elite and influential folks I think.
I have been waiting for this group after Amanda Waller's introduction to the DCEU. Appeared in Smallville though.

BankyGee:
Happy birthday to me guys!

Happy Birthday bro

10thDentist:
Flash missing, vanishes in crisis!

CW saw the future all along.

openmine:
Liverpool 'ready swap deal bid' for Nicolo Barella who Jurgen Klopp wants 'at all costs'
Liverpool could be set to offer Naby Keita in exchange for Inter Milan midfielder Nicolo Barella according to reports. The Italian side are rumoured to have placed a £77 million transfer fee on Jurgen Klopp's target, which is beyond what the Anfield side are willing to pay. They are therefore looking at adding Keita to the deal in order to bring the price down.
Barella is one of the key stars within the Inter squad and has another four years on his contract, hence the high asking price. The 39-times capped international played 48 games in all competitions for the Serie A runners up last season, scoring four goals and contributing a further 13 assists.
Keita joined Liverpool in a £50million deal in 2018, inheriting Steven Gerrard’s famous number eight shirt. He has failed to properly impress at Liverpool, however, often finding himself left on the bench at the expense of the preferred midfield trio of Thiago, Fabinho and Jordan Henderson. Now he could be set to leave the club as a makeweight in a deal for the former Cagliari midfielder.

My Opinion: Still a rumor but will be delighted to have a player like Barella in that midfield!

Fabrizio Romano has proved it's false. Liverpool are planning to give Keita a new contract. No more signings unless Klopp sees something in pre season.

Kloppo:
Jota,midfielder?

Sure. He has played as one for Liverpool before in a 4-4-2. He has dropped deeper in a few games before.

EgusiShankly:
Those stringy Yanks. Buy midfielder that is an obvious need for the team, they are waiting till next summer

I think we are going to change system this season and use less Midfield. I see us using double 6 pivot Midfield of Fabinho, Thiago, Henderson, Keita, Chamberlain, Trent this season. A 4-2-3-1or 4-4-2. Don't forget Jota is also a midfielder.

openmine:
Hasn't he won the league before?
We don't need this unnecessary pressure!
We are not mancity or PSG fans that believe in pressuring a coach or player to deliver and then boot him out when things don't go well!
We LFC fans are always patient and trust our coach to deliver no matter what happens!
This is why we love klopp!

Oga, it's not pressure. He who is given more, a lot is expected. This team has underachieved.
We played 2 fucking finals without scoring. Even the UCL was a shitty game we played.
Liverpool used to win titles yearly prior to the 90s, we have only won 1 in 3 years now. This team isn't filled with average players. You would think we or Klopp would have learnt from 2018/19. It took Klopp 6 years to win Carabao and FA Cup.
He is too stiff. He needs to tweak in games not using same tactics with every team.
He should play to his players strength.
Imagine Klopp played a highline against Real Madrid last two seasons with Matt Philips and Williams in defense. Is that not stupid?
It was until later that he learnt that these guys weren't fast or understood the ideology.
We should start playing like City.

Silentgroper:
With d midfield nt solid yet, even d defence is looking weak , baba calm down. We still need add on in some particular spot b4 we knw we are strong enough.. Nunez is nt even epl tested nd he is a poacher nt one of those dat his good at hold up play..

Oga, forget that thing. Klopp has underachieved with that team. He had no reason not to have won the league atleast twice. How many times have City who we claim have world class players been ranked in the ballon d'or even team of the season contains Liverpool players.
I have made same excuses for Klopp only to realize that it's just Klopp who is too stiff to try things new season after season.
Guardiola does this. We lost the league twice by 1 point. Baba, Klopp don underachieve and it's high time we called it.
Guardiola will have won the league with this team 3 times already. Which City forward wins the golden boot? Their left backs or defense, which is better than ours?
Klopp has no reason not to win the league this season. We have 4 CBs who are good. Our Midfield is good.
It's the system that doesn't call for them to be more involved.
Last season you saw the goals they could have when they get to come out.
No more excuses. We have to win more EPL titles and trophies.

This Liverpool team in all honesty have underachieved.

After signing Darwin Nunez, Klopp knows he no longer has any excuse not to win the Premier League.

I hope the JSA is taking place in the modern day not pre MOS cause then you would have to wonder why people were surprised to see aliens and super powered kryptonians years after.

Wait, so black Adam is coming out this year?

Purpl3:
How did the revenge go?

Na Salah say him want revenge oh no be me. My hands are clean.

[quote author=Purpl3 post=113272557][/quote]F*ck you, man. Lol.

Silentgroper:
Yet militao, a centre back, was d one neutralising every attack coming 4rm our left wing.. Wasnt it suppose to be part of d tactics to have vini clamped down at whatever cost.. While trent overlaps, just like militao, konate covers up while fab transitions into cb to cover up kon's position.. Madrid practically used d same strategy he used against chelsea, man city and psg, and klopp couldnt have anticipated dat.. Me wey no be coach 4 don go study those match and plan out a strategy to neutralise dat game plan of madrid... It's just fvcking unbelievable ... Madrid's backline wasnt even dat great.

Oga, you didn't watch the game. I saw it. Konate was our best defender all through. He and van Dijk were marking other players specifically Benzema when Trent left Vinicius unmarked. Watch the full game.
Konate helped Trent a lot in the game. To me, Trent doesn't have a defender's mind. He has shown time without number that he is playing out of position as RB.
Judging how our forwards were kept quiet is you failing to acknowledge that both our forwards aside Mane aren't in form since March. And Madrid only needed to keep Diaz quiet knowing Salah will fire blanks and Mane won't get the service needed.

Silentgroper:
Explain to me y konate was on d pitch

You didn't watch the game. Konate had a great game. The goal was from Trent angle. Left Vinicius unmarked.

openmine:
So what happened when a super defence which consisted of Rio ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic lost 4-1 to blackburn in 2007?
Was that also derby match?
Bayern Munich lost 5-0 to Borussia Monchengladbach.....was that a derby game?

Bros na that one be one off. You don't concede that kind of goals in a derby and call it a one off. It means that team is good. It's like real Madrid loosing 6-0 in Madrid derby.

Purpl3:
I'm good bro apart from the nerves too cos I can relate asf
Which bald headed french man are you talking about? Zidane? He is no longer our coach o.

The other guy. I forgot he wasn't bald. But that guy. You know me.