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2tpick:
FYI, china also has distinct ethnic groups (Han, zhuang and hui are notable examples). Back to the topic, omotola should know better. It's called acting for a reason. When you see American actors acting like middle east or russian terrorists and mimic their assents, they don't even come close to reprising those roles perfectly. If we have to use an egun or Yoruba person for that role, maybe we would also consider include real criminals and terrorists to play villains in movies. Omotola should have replicated the assistance she received all through her career acting igbo-themed movies, that's what professionals do

No offense but you deviated from the argument. I'm not saying someone who is Egun. Someone who knows not to use another language while acting in a period piece. I can't be acting as an Igbo character in a period centered piece and be using Hausa or Yoruba words.

It's just like in Merlin and Spartacus, they don't say some words that are odd to those times. Just like you would not see an American playing a Russian character having a Boston accent or demeanor.

The lady Omotola was talking about was using Igbo words while playing an Egun character. That's the problem here not her ethnicity. No one is against an Igbo or Yoruba. Anyone who is, is just a fool.

2tpick:
So what's your nationality, if not Nigerian? School no be scam

It depends on how the question is asked but in a general term, my nationality based on the passport I carry is Nigerian.

However, in the context of the topic/subject in question, nationality doesn't refer to a State passport/citizenship but a group of people who share a homogeneous history, culture, kinship and language.

43Ronin:
So if you and other Nigerians were given a job abroad to earn in dollars and one guy wasnt doing his perfectly, so instead of helping him to perfectly it (not do it for him) as your fellow naija guy, you would go and report him to be supervisor and suggest that he be replaced? That's snitchin man & black americans hate that thing

Do I know how to do the job that my Naija brother was hired for so I can put him through? Or is there a better alternative to help my Naija guy to not get exposed and thus risk the chances of other Nigerians?

You guys jump into issues without understanding the situation. Omotola doesn't speak Egun. There's no way she could have helped the lady out. She however suggested the lady does the Pidgin English part while someone who actually spoke Egun does the job.

I'm pretty sure you won't be offended if the right person was elected into political offices in NIGERIA, right?

2tpick:
Your analogy speaks to the ethnocentrism you people are always being accused of. By also making reference to Chinese and Japanese, two different nationalities, it also shows that you believe that Nigeria is a fusion of more than two different nationalities.
I would want to hear your opinion of omotola that made a living in igbo-themed movies using Japanese words (sic) when there are several people in the crew who speak mandarin (sic).

The film Omotola was talking about was a fusion of two nationalities actually. Egun and Yoruba. Go check the meaning of nation and State. There's a reason every Nigerian tribe is referred to as a nation.

And so we are clear, I am not Yoruba. So you can take your tribal bigotry elsewhere. I'm beyond that level of thinking. There are better things I could spend my day worrying about than some tribal outrage that serves no purpose except create viral content or stir divide.

Polchiz:
Is it the same Omotala that murdered Igbo language severally on Nollywood yet nobody crucified her because Igbo is not her language?
You see why I will never trust a Yoruba man?

Lol, the casting directors knew she wasn't a natural Igbo speaker, right? And was it Igbo she tried to speak or Yoruba?

Omotola not getting Igbo pronunciations right wasn't exactly her fault. The director/producers needed her despite knowing she doesn't speak the language. And you do know that Nollywood films don't have enough prep time right? As in, an average Nigerian film can be shot in a week. Or even in days.

Antoeni:
Why Was Omotola Trying to interfere With Another Actor’s Casting On Somebody Else’s Production?

She wasn't interfering, she made a suggestion by pointing out an error. If I am making a film about Chinese culture and history and unknown to me, I hired someone who can't speak Mandarin, and instead was using Japanese words, should I go ahead with the production when there's someone who speaks Mandarin in my crew even if someone pointed it out to me?

Stanna2025:
Tribalism leads us no where. Let's all unite to make this country a better place for all

Hate is a profitable business, sadly. It creates viral trends/contents, political narratives and score a base in a divide. Division is a market.

AderonkeOlaniyi:
Who be Omotola? Thunder fire her blockos!

What did Omotola do to you?

mila1121:
VDM dey there dey talk nonsense defending nonsense so she didn’t think to correct the lady it was to report her that she not from a particular tribe and got what she deserve they told her I don’t care if she is Igbo Hausa or Yoruba
She thought she was in Nigeria where she influence nollywood America seak talent not tribe

Here's the thing; the Igbo lady doesn't speak Egun, Omotola doesn't speak Egun as well, so what do you expect her to tell the Igbo lady? So if something is going wrong at a work place, we shouldn't speak up?

Hohenheim:
You killed your own argument with the Captain America talk because anyone that saw Endgame knows that was one of the greatest scenes in CBM history.
Lmao we can agree to disagree on Nolan's Batman movies

What was the great scene exactly? I don't understand.

Hohenheim:
Look at you trying to belittle the show.
It's popular because it's good. Simple

Jesus, I never said it wasn't good. The show is good and it also doesn't change the fact that Black people are attracted to the show because it portrays what it means to be a Black person in a society of racial hierarchy.

I don't know if you are Black, but if you are you should appreciate it for what it is. Don't think I am into this BS comic book rivalry nonsense. I don't have time for it.

Phant0mStranger:


More than The Penguin btw


https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2090536460755546142

We also need to admit that a lot of Black folks are emotional invested in John Stewart character. The latest episode is being praised by Black Americans and even the White guys are loving the portrayal by Kyle Chandler.

Hohenheim:
Christopher Nolan is the worst thing to ever happen to DC and Batman, I mean because of him we can't get any fantastical Batman villain, everything has to be "grounded" or set in the real world.
And to your point about MCU fans posing as DCEU fans that's just not true, the movies just sucked and the public didn't really like them that's why the DCEU failed. And Christopher Nolan is technically responsible for it because if he's Batman movies weren't so successful Man of steel would have never happened.

Dude, are you high or something? Where do you think Batman was in live action before Nolan?

And speaking of grounded villain, it means grounded in terms of motivation. Thanos was a grounded villain, same as Loki or Vulture or even Mysterio.

Nolan made sure we never get villains like the Batman and Robin films or that Batman is treated as a serious character.

The reason why they can't use fantastic villains or characters with abilities is not on Nolan but on writing and execution. Let's be honest, Batman is so overhyped as a character that his rogues gallery are ridiculous for a man who has no abilities or a mechanized suit lol. So it's going to be hard having Bruce fighting a super powered Bane, Poison Ivy, Dr. Freeze, Clay face while giving them believable motivation and making Batman look cool.

Even Captain America looked ridiculous taking on Thanos lol. Also, we have to agree that not just comic book fans go to watch these films.

SMUAG:
It's funny how you people think or assume Hollywood to be Nollywood where directors shot and release movie per months
Green Lanterns series is really bringing you guys back Hope we will still see more of this when all the overhyping gra gra ends PM2 did more than this oh
The Supergirl movie really destroyed you guys' ego I guess...

Supergirl film was in all fairness due to the execution, promotion and the drama behind it. Give another director that film and remove studio interference, and it would have been an entertaining piece. The film really is about dealing with grief and growth. But it was just all over the place.

SMUAG:
No, there was actually no real connection, other than they both existed in same universe, and we all saw the sour taste PM2 dropped on many audience out there tongues. A tv series can not do the heavy lifting. A few months after this season 1 ends nobody will give a f about it - we saw same thing from PM2.. Guys are just trying to overhype it now cuz it's new and they have nothing else to hold onto.

Lanterns is actually worth the hype. And it's really good. The latest episode just has me and it's going to be well talked about.

I think what is helping the show is the creator behind it. He was the one behind Watchmen tv series. Lanterns isn't a Superhero show, it is on the surface but deeper, it's a social commentary.

Now, it doesn't explain why every DCU costume has to be mediocre.

Hohenheim:
None of those guys care about actual Snyder movies, they just like to larp his DC movies because they liked it and other people criticized it when they came out, it's why you've never seen them talk about Army of the Dead or Rebel Moon.

This page is about DC characters and project though. It'll be funny talking about Army of the Dead and Rebel Moon. But speaking of those films, they are good films made for streaming.

One thing I have so far learnt about filmmaking is, you better start of with Independent stuffs that you have full control over else your brand gets tarnished in a very competitive space. Christopher Nolan wouldn't be well loved as he is now if he had jumped into making studio stuff. And it hurts more if you don't have connections within the Hollywood industry.

Hohenheim:
There was never anything special about that movie that made it demand 3hrs. If it was half decent and didn't stray so far away from Superman and especially Batman's characterization then it would have crossed a billion. The simple truth is that Zach Snyder does not give two shïts about comics and tried to turn them into his own ideas the problem was that he ain't Christopher Nolan and he ain't no damn Matt Reeves.

WB wanted a shared universe which went against Snyder's initial contract with the studio, and there was no way he could do all that in under 2 hours. Introduce Lex, Luthor, Batman, Wonder Woman, the aftermath of MOS, Doomsday, without needing time to flesh all that out.

Phant0m5tranger:
Damn bro this nigga snydra did us dirty



Imagine taking the face of DC only to be outgrossed by captain america and fu¢king zootopia 😂😂🤣.


You do superman, e flop
You do superman, batman and wonder woman e flop
You do justice league, e still come flop

Tufiakwa, Snydra should be in jail biko 🤯


No wonder he is currently jobless and his fangirls are running around the internet like headless chickens 😂

Even sucide squad want to outgross it

MOS didn't flop though. And MOS wasn't a bad film if we are being honest. I have issues with it but it was never a bad film. However, the color grading was just too dark for no reason. I don't know if it was the script or Henry Cavill but I never liked how he portrayed Superman.

I'm not saying he needed to be all smiley and saving cats from trees or whatever, I'm saying we didn't see personality in Cavill's Superman. After watching Cavill in a lot of films so far, I think Cavill lacks range as an actor. Either that or the man is forced to play similar characters in many of his films and he only has 3 facial expressions that doesn't let you connect with his characters.

He has the smile face, angry face and the bland facial expressions. I like him but after 12 years, I think he could have done more with the role.

Hohenheim:
BvS remains the only movie to gross 400m in its first weekend and still never pass 900m in total. Smuag and his cohorts should come and deny it.

That movie ruined DCs brand

It would have made more had they released the extended version in theatres. The jumbled mess turned everyone off. I'm sure the decision was made hastily due to fear of not making money from a 3 hour cut.

And it appears Warner Bros still haven't learnt anything with the release of Supergirl which allegedly had editing issues as well. The Supergirl film could have worked well with a stronger villain, explored more about Krypton, Kara and her trying to fit in to a world that was alien to her.

Phant0mStranger:

TonySpike come and tell us why Lord Snydra;

Inspiration to other filmmakers
His craft and style impacted other films
Lord and saviour of DC




is Jobless 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Filmmaking isn't a simple business bro. And it's a game of numbers. There could be a variety of reasons he doesn't have anything scheduled yet.

My advice, (not that he would need it) to Snyder is to make independent films that aren't big budget, grand scale stuff for now. There is a lot of politics in Hollywood.

TonySpike:
Even Nolan cannot rescue DC again. Superhero era is pretty much done for now.

I disagree. Nolan can put his own spin on the films. It doesn't have to be Marvel formula.
Imagine a Superman or Justice League film done in the style of The Odyssey. Or a Flash film done in the style of Inception.

I believe there are many ways to tell a story but people think of superhero films in the way of Marvel. The Boys came and showed how things can work out differently if you know what you are doing.

DC can even choose to go the route of doing supervillain films as opposed to superheroes lol. Just saying.

Phant0mStranger:


This clayface trailer looks good, nah now i see why Gunn rushed and greenlit it



But i am not a horror fan I will just watch it for the lore 😂

The whole DCU just looks like it doesn't have a clear plot or plan lol. Right now, we don't even know what Gods and monsters is all about.

I hate to say this, Gunn hasn't been an improvement on the franchise so far than Dwayne Johnson was with Black Adam lol.

I think WB should just bottle their pride and bring Christopher Nolan back to serve as a producer for the DCU and start afresh. We could use Nolan now to be honest. That way we know we are getting philosophical films that'll get people talking for years.

Phant0mStranger:


Stop shooting yourself on the feet

The Boys S1 (2019)
The Boys S2 (2020)
The Boys S3 (2022)
The Boys S4 (2024)
The Boys S5 (2026)


Zack Snyder’s Justice League (2021)


Now how did your justice flop influence the Boys?

Lol, the fact that the show runner Eric Kripke takes a jab at it and the visuals says something. I mean, he literally called Snyder just to tell him about how the show intended on making a reference to him lol, and Snyder found it funny. Also Snyder is a fan of the series.

SMUAG:
Definitely yes on the bolded, however it looks very pleasing and convincing when it's on script. The challenge will be the execution, which for me I think it won't be convincing enough for the majority to say "yes Gunn did a great job to find a way to make their teaming up looked so real and not forced nor rushed".

Like you said, it's all dependent on the execution. Plus, we really don't know how it'll turn out. The guy might still surprise us though. He made Guardians of the Galaxy after all.

I really don't want to write people especially having faced similar sentiments before.

SMUAG:
Yes, I get your point, but the reality on how Luthor was portrayed last, shown he has zero empathy for anything other than himself and there won't be that time to make it look believable for both to drop their differences in just their next meeting. They could've saved them teaming up for like their 3rd of 4th movies when the threat has become so immense that he has no other option than to work with Superman.

Being a writer myself, there's actually a way to have them team up, but it's not going to be a team up in the traditional sense. An alliance of inconvenience of sorts that'll have them fighting each other at the end. Remember he is working with ARGUS now and indirectly the government in Peacemaker? Superman could be called in to supervise him after things blew back on ARGUS and to play both sides, Lex plays nice.

SMUAG:
The issue is not even with Gunn again but his fans, who think everything Gunn touches are all good and perfect...
If they can come out to call that ret@rd costume of Superman "great" then expect anything from them. A $225m movie budget yet the suit looked more like a cosplay one made for halloween. Everything about the universe looks way too cheap for one to take them serious.

That's what you get when your PR is good and you are friends with the right people. I mean, Michael Rosenbaum who isn't generous with his criticism on things, praised the Superman film and hyped up the Supergirl film even before the movie was put together lol.

It goes to show you that Hollywood is nothing but an industry for political agenda and sycophancy.

Gunn has goodwill unlike Snyder and from what I saw recently from Christopher Nolan, if he hadn't been Christopher Nolan and made his mark already, his latest film The Odyssey would have been torn to shreds. Most times it doesn't matter if you are a good filmmaker or not. All the more reason I don't take Hollywood films seriously anymore.

SMUAG:
Bro, sometimes I just go on youtube, put my earpiece on, search any of the Snyder's DCEU movies and quietly relax and watch just to listen to the great scores!
Snyderverse DCEU scores were so epic! Not this I'm a punk rockstar scores James Gunn wants to suffocate his fans with Very childish scores with no serious moments at all.
Just try comparing the "war cry" from Wonder Woman when battling with Doomsday to that Hawkgirl pussycat scream then you go know say na play Gunn come play Na sabbatical leave guy man come do for DC


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoHpLUoCMt4?si=QEtgItGd1Bli-UG3

I hate what he did with Hawkgirl. To be honest, if you removed the Justice gang from the film, it would have been a better film. That and of course, change the Superman suit. They have to change that sh!t.

SMUAG:
Bro, Man of Tomorrow being good is one herculean task oh!
That movie was never green-lit because it was suppose to, it was hurriedly green-lit and pushed into production because our man, Gunn, can not believe what hit him on Justice gang and also he couldn't live with the failure of seeing his movie failed to perform
How are they going to reunite Superman and Lex in Man of Tomorrow after the so much hatred they claimed Lex have on Superman? I don't see a better writing to convince many of how Lex and Supes easily sort out their differences in a jiffy. Yes, on mere thought it looks way simple, but to make it look believable in movie is a whole different game entirely. I think the movie runtime won't give them that luxury to flesh it out properly - and this happens to be one of many hills this movie needs to climb for it to be anything close to epic...

From what I understand about Lex LUTHOR and Superman dynamic is that they aren't supposed to be friends or like each other. They are not going to hug or shake hands, so it's actually easy to have them work together for the good of humanity, Lex of course is doing it for show and has ulterior motives as well.

That said, MOT feels rushed but story and execution is what determines a great film. Right now, it's stacked up of characters that I wonder if James Gunn can tell a good story in under 2 hours cause he is quoted saying he doesn't like films that go too far beyond the 2 hour mark.

Also, has anybody noticed how lifeless Metropolis was made to feel in Superman? Or even Peacemaker's city didn't have life to it. I don't know why that is. Then again, everything just feels cheap and cartoonish.

Delacroix6:
I wonder how James GONE fans are going to try to cope with this.

This means there's going to be a lot of writing and rewriting for Man of Tomorrow. We are about to get a totally different film as opposed to what we got in Superman and Supergirl. I'm counting on a knee-jerk reaction by WB now. And I believe that will be the last film that goes into production in the meantime until the Paramount thing is finalized.

They really need to change those suit designs. They should hire the costume designers that worked on Black Adam.

TonySpike:
Actually, The Boys took a lot of inspiration from Snyder's cut but in a comedic and gritty manner. Formulaic is no longer in vogue.

It kind of had to since The Boys was basically meant to be realistic and mirror real world but with superheroes as celebrities.

TonySpike:
The costume looks like CW DC series type of costume.

CW costumes were actually better bro. It's the costumes that take me out of it. It shows James Gunn isn't even taking the thing seriously. It just looks cheap, the vibe feels cheap, everything feels like WB has given up on it and don't care.

Good to have you back, bro.

TonySpike:
Superhero genre has outlived it's usefulness and is now at a completion.

Yeah that's true. Then again, when the genre has become formulaic, it's bound to get stale. This is why The Boys did well. It went against formula.