IbrahimMav:
Zaslav is not a messiah, the man's a fuccking butcher.
That's The Penguin show screwed. I was really looking forward to this show.
At least, Peacemaker, HotD and Snow are safe.

Most of these didn't concern Zaslav. WB originated a lot of problems for the DCEU. Zaslav bought the company and is finding ways to make money.

IbrahimMav:

The least they can do is release it as a limited series on HBO Max
This way, fans will at least get to see the movie before HBO Max fuccks off forever.
It's worth more than the bad PR of cancelling a completed $90m movie.

Like I said, you are just thinking from a fan perspective. They're thinking from a business aspect. E concern them sha.

I don't think some of us get that Batgirl was never in WBD plans and was a film greenlit and rushed into production by the old WB which was AT&T.
I think WBD want to move in a cohesive direction, and I suspected something like this would happen when they brought Affleck back.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Flash movie is heavily reshot and Keaton is removed.
Zack Snyder has been hinting a lot at things and this could be him coming back. Ray Fisher tweeted something the minute news broke that Batgirl was cancelled.
Blue Beatle is safe cause originally he was going to be introduced along with Atom.

PrinceofAgoAre:
Our defense though, CBs to be precise... gomez, vvd, matip, konate and nat phillips..
Remove vvd and matip 4rm that list and we're fvcked.. Gomez is abt d only solid one there.. Konate slip ups will cost us, no be small.. We need at atleast a quality CB in d absence of vvd and matip to strengthen our backline..

And you think said quality CB go want sit down for bench?
Look, these guys slip up but when we want them to do the job, they will with the help of the team and fans. Come on, we made top 4 playing with Philips and Williams.
Give Gomez regular games and he will be good and confident. Konate only needs to be paired with a senior to gain confidence. The guy is still a young boy.
Besides, I think it's up to Klopp to play to the pattern of specific players.

abduleez1:


The talk of bad test screenings is utter crap.
It's funny how you peeps that hardly believes what WB says are now drinking this one hook line sinker cos it's a project y'all don't like in the first place.

It was mainly axed because Zaslav thinks he can't make money off of it. Nothing more, nothing else.

Imagine the crap, "it's so bad it can't be aired even on HBOMax". Utter rubbish which I ain't buying.
So Morbius looks real good. DC turned out prime shït in Suicide Squad and it's still watchable. I ain't buying this cos DC hasn't had a movie real bad since 2017. WW84 and Birds of Prey were mixed.

Lol...why wouldn't WBD find it non profitable?
They know why they cancelled it bro. I don't.

abduleez1:
Wtf am I seeing... Now this is prime dumb.
How TF will u cancel such movie. Highest drop it in HBOMax.
This Zaslav is dumber than he actually portrays if this is true.

On the contrary, No. From what I heard, the test screening was so negative that WBD do not want the negative press from its release. And they thought it was better canceling it than promoting it with another million dollar only for it to bomb. Recall they still need to promote an Ezra Miller film and Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom.

johnyace:
I believe WB has or had a plan for the DCEU after the the flash releases, but I believe that they aren't confident in that plan because if the flash movie fails to sell it to the fans, that would probably be the end of the DCEU.

For me stuff like bringing back Keaton and not knowing what is going on with Superman, spells doom for whatever plans that they have.

Affleck has shown time and time again that he is still willing to play Batman, if they needed an older Batman to play mentor to Batgirl, he fits the role, and is also good enough for any JL movie they plan to have going forward, having Keaton as the main Batman in a JL movie doesn't sound good to me.

I don talk this thing tire. Like what's the point bringing Keaton back?
That's regression not growth.

SMUAG:


Exactly!!!
Just like how Doctor Stranger: MoM and Thor: Love and Thunder had nigh perfect test screening reactions, but the total opposite when they were released...
I don't take fanboys or paid audience reactions seriously until I see it myself...

Exactly. After watching The Boys, I have come to realize that most of the leaks or reactions prior to a movie release are usually a marketing scheme or PR.
These days I no longer watch out for a movie, I only hear that it's out before I watch it.
I don't even know when most films are coming out now and I was shocked to find out black panther and Adam were coming out this year.
I didn't know the boys or Thor were out till people said it was lol.

Xavier5:




I gat your points. But with the directors at the helm of affairs, James Wan and Andy, likewise with the quality of movies DC have been dishing out of recent, I can say Aquaman 2 and The Flash will be amazing

As for those Marvel movies, that one is an entirely different thing. We all know of recent, Marvel have been dishing out mediocrity when it comes to movies. It's their TV series that are good.
That's why I'm not getting my hopes high for Wakanda Forever. Marvel being Marvel, they might ending up ruining that movie.


#Xavier
#DCian

Am not talking about Marvel, am saying no one should get all too carried away by test screenings. Every test screening report is always positive. Cause it's ditched out by the studio's marketing team.

I hope you all know that the so called test screening reactions are from WB's marketing team lol...
It's part of the marketing to build hype. I'd rather no one takes them serious.

kendrick93:

I also think he should have been played in a more attacking role..
Right now he's basically doing a Gini role..
When he was coming up at the academy he used to player either behind a striker or on the wings..
Quite surprised Klopp trusts Elliot in attacking midfield role but can't do same for Curtis..
IMO Curtis is the better player than Elliot and would perform better in a more attacking midfield role

Eliot also plays as an 8. Klopp does not use a 10. Or attacking midfielder. The AM is the false 9. But since we have a number 9 now then yes, but sadly that role goes to Carvalho now.

uniqueuser:


I strongly believe we will be seeing more of 4-2-3-1 as against 4-3-3. Trent doesn't has that physicality to play DM. About injuries...fingers crossed, with the amount of matches we played last season ehn...sha options dey

Between Fabinho and Trent who has more weight? Or pace.
You can't judge him based on how he plays as a RB for how he will play as a DM.

Xavier5:


Bro, nothing is going to happen to The Flash. It may not gross up to expectation but it won't flop.

Ezra Miller can't make Flash flop. The movie is bigger than Ezra Miller himself. How can a movie that involves Affleck, Keaton and Andy flop simply because Miller messed up, even if he's the lead character. The fact that he will be recasted is enough to put off his influence on the movie.

What WB/ DC needs is good marketing and I have stated how they can do that some time back. If WBD plays their card well they will turn the whole situation into a positive one. This is a piece of cake, there's nothing there.

As for people threatening to boycott the movie, well that's how they've been threatening all this while. Shey they also threatened to boycott The Batman, how far?
Bro, the boycotters are just a minority, they don't have the capacity to influence the performance of a movie. They're just whiners, they're not people you take serious. So if they want to boycott, they should go ahead and boycott. Their boycotting won't affect the positive performance of the movie on bit.

Flash may not gross up to expectation but it will not be a flop. That movie will gross a minimum of $700M. The unveiling of the new or rebooted JL is really going to contribute in boosting it.


#Xavier
#DCian

Same way a Justice league movie made twice it's budget and went on to gross 1billion in the box office right.

mikuz:


Trent has to be the worst person in Liverpool to ever play DM. His defensive lapses will ensure that we ship in 5 goals every match. It's like you are under estimating the sensitivity of that position. Milner will do a better job than Trent will ever do in that position. Why are so bent on Trent playing there? You don't want us to compete this season or what? Please leave it for the veterans. Disembark from this your postulations bros

How come those lapses haven't prevented us shipping goals while he plays RB? Hope you know DM is different from CB and there are many ways to play the role that isn't strictly about defending. He can play it differently like the Kante kind or as a deep lying playmaker.
Playing as a CDM or DM is all about reading the game and having an eye for passes that transition defense to attack. It's just one full preseason that he will be given to test himself in the role. And the fact he has played as a Midfielder or is a natural Midfielder gives him an edge. His lapses at RB are because he of the role he plays at RB where a lot of times he overlaps. As a DM, he doesn't need to overlap that often.

Nickshrapnel:
Flash movie won’t flop, lol

Baba, e go hard to promote am without the lead. And some would want to boycott it.
To me, after all the stories about Miller, I could care less about it.

abduleez1:


Starting afresh takes us back to square one. We can't afford that now especially with the momentum of the MCU. It means we accept defeat that we failed and that doesn't bode a lot of confidence in upcoming projects.
In fact it will be hard to convince audience to watch them sef.

We just need to reboots thing not needed or things holding the franchise back and move forward.

Bros, we are already back to square one. There's no clear story as it is or a build up to a big event. Flash film will tank so bad because of Ezra Miller. We have had 4 avengers film and by 2025 could have 6 Avengers films without a JL 2 or MOS 2. So what's the progress?
You guys seeing HC as the bad guy don't know the full details. HC even though he is all for the money, has sacrificed a lot for things he considers a passion project.
WB didn't want a MOS 2 but WBD that's wanting a MOS 2 will need to convince him with a good script and direction and he will be back.
He loves Superman and it's not just the money for him. It's easier to put a man down or blame him without knowing the full story.

uniqueuser:

LOL Trent as a DM? then Fabinho as number 9 ba... Trent should stick to his RB, we also have Gomez, Milner and the new boy Ramsey as backup... selling Neco wasn't a mistake, we can't guarantee him game time.

How are you guys all sure that Trent can't play DM? Robertson can also play DM if I am to believe but not sure.
The reason why I am saying this is, I smell midfield injuries this season, and it's about time Klopp starts looking at Midfield options.
New boy Ramsay? Baba, no just reason am. Milner can't play there against some teams. Hope you watched the Man City game at Anfield where he was almost red carded? Our only serious RB cover is Joe Gomez.
And he plays differently to Trent. Ramsay on the other hand is not premier league material yet. Unless we want to keep Sepp van den Berg.

abduleez1:


Remove Keaton from Batgirl and flash say wetin happen.

It's already a PR nightmare.

For a total reboot. So we know we are starting afresh.

mikuz:


Does it matter, provided that they are doing there jobs excellently well in their current positions, why change the status quo?

Am saying some tweaks can be made to see how improvements can be made to surprise opponents.
Under Guardiola, Trent will be playing 2 positions now.

mikuz:


Trent playing defensive midfield is suicide mission. The only two persons who can hold that spot down for us are Fabinho and Henderson.

I hope you know RB isn't his natural position. Or that Fabinho is a natural Right Back.

abduleez1:


Well, I think it's time WB do a recast. He's not worth the trouble.

To be honest I want them to cancel that flash film, remove Keaton from Batgirl, recast Superman, Batman, Flash and do it again but better.
The flash film will be a PR and marketing nightmare.

mikuz:


I could have still fancied another natural DM in that midfield. Hendo plays optimally when he's deployed as a CM. Nothing beats playing in your natural position. Fabinho as DM and Hendo as CM is always a joy to watch, he hardly puts a foot wrong bro.

It was a mistake selling Neco Williams. I still don't know why Trent isn't playing DM yet. Cause this season would have been a perfect season to do that.
I don't know if Gomez or Matip can play there. Would be interesting lol.

Kaycee7:
Oh! TIL that.
His work on the Arrowverse isn't exactly inspiring my confidence, though. But I never mind being pleasantly surprised.

Is the arrowverse well written? He acted what was given him.
Routh has better emotional depth than Cavill though.

abduleez1:


Very true. And that's what is the most annoying. Ben who's a better and bigger actor with more pedigree, despite all the shït WB did to him got back after seeing the new team. His movie was repurposed and given to another director (Matt Reeves), an old actor set to replace him and a younger actor just debuting yet he's back.

For over 3 years Henry still dey drag money. It's bad from him especially from a character and studio that made him a familiar face in general audience.
It just shows he never really loved the character to begin with. More like a fat paycheck.

Henry Cavill said it way before now that he was into acting because of the money though.
But seriously, it's not the guy holding the movie but WB, if they really wanted it, they will have it out already. No need to bash the guy sha.
With the way WB managed the DCEU the guy wants to cash in big time knowing there's a tendency for the film to tank big time and affect him.

Kaycee7:
I'm kinda confused. Do you mean he was playing an onscreen version of Christopher Reeves or his portrayal of Supes mimicked Reeves' own?

The Superman he was portraying was that of the Reeves version. Everything was about it being a sequel to it. It's public knowledge lol.

Kaycee7:
Superman Returns wey them give am, how far?

You mean the film where he played Christopher Reeve playing Superman?

WB can just go with Brandon Routh. Dude has been begging for the role for ages.

abduleez1:


I was surprised seeing DC in Comic con. Cos it was only House of The Dragon and Don't Worry Darling that were poised to showcase.

Seems no DC Fandome this year.

There was a DC fandome this year na. Or was it last year that the flash trailer was released?

mikuz:


He's ok for me. Which mistakes? Are you not being harsh on him? Seeing that he's been deployed to play as ball retainer and not given enough freedom and opportunity to express himself with the ball.

Our pattern of play does not allow for holding on to the ball for long. We are a high pressing team, once you get the ball, you move quick by identifying a pass.
You are asking which mistakes, against Man City in 2020/21 season, he held on to the ball too much and was dispossessed. City ended up scoring from that.
He did same thing very often that season which lost us points. The guy is a good player but dude needs to actually play the tactics.
He is deployed as an 8 but tries to play as a number 10 by getting into tight corners and trying to dribble.
The problem is we play a high line and if we get dispossessed, voila a counter attack against us.

CAPdan21:
What do u guys think about Curtis...he seemed like someone always close to taking the next step to becoming a mainstay of the first team but always regressing... I'd argue he's already starting this season behind Elliot and carvalho in the midfield pecking order...Do we think he's good enough, or he'll get consistent later on cuz I don't see any path for him now...
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He keeps repeating the same mistakes too often. Holds the ball too long and losses possession as a result. I prefer him on the wings.

openmine:
Guys who is that young player Bajcetic?
He is very good in the midfield

Fabinho spoke very highly of him.

Jodera:
Lol... Mik.uz na conc Mane fan than Liverpool fan. He seems to me he's all those guys who supported Madrid and juventus because of Ororo

No need to take him seriously then. Na to just ignore am.