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mikuz:
Did he insult anyone? He's comments were not that inflammatory the way they painted it. He even later apologized, so how do you hold that against him?

The point is, if Mane was mistreated, he wouldn't be giving a shit about the club. There are players who spoke negative about their former clubs. And they go on to have a career. Even Balotelli never spoke bad of Liverpool.

mikuz:
Really brother? This proves that?

A prudent employee could never criticize his past employer in public unless you want him to end his career. It's obvious you have never worked in a corporate environment before.

Lukaku, Dean Henderson are still playing football.

AnfieldFan:
They did...They gave him 70m...
According to Deborah, they shot only one additional scene, that's the "knightmare" sequence that had Jared, I said about two scenes and post production just to cover everything....
So if you're unhappy WB gave Snyder 70m to finish a movie he claimed was almost done, how are you gonna feel about the money that will need to be forked out to reshoot the Flash on the scale you're proposing....

Bros, the 70 million was to finish the film not just to shoot 2 scenes. Do you know there are films with CGI that actually shoot for that amount? Bros no come dey blow things out of proportion like say we no go school.
70 million for 2 scenes? If na so, Aquaman for cost 500 million to film na.

AnfieldFan:
How do you do this when the movie is more or less done...

Bear in mind that WB gave Snyder around 70m to shoot about 2 scenes and finish post production...
This film is currently undergoing reshoots with the third act being reworked substantially, this comes in two parts: initial reshoots to collapse Keaton's directive and current ones to eliminate Ezra's because of his most recent arrest...

If you're suggesting making this a Batman film, then why call it the flash?
And how possible will that be considering the knowledge that Ezra plays multiple characters and is in a lot of the scenes (as much as 70 percent and above at least), how much has been sunk in so far and potential returns both financially and critically...

Snyder didn't spend 70 million shooting 2 scenes. If WB gave him that money to shoot 2 scenes then the management is dumber than I thought.

AnfieldFan:
Ben Affleck is coming back for additional photography for 'The Flash' and the 3rd act is being reworked...


WB has sunk a lot of money into this project...Should be north of 300 mill by now, when marketing is factored, that climbs higher...

With this Ezra Miller nonsense they should centre it on Batman and less of Miller.

KnackAmPlank:
Klopp is too stubborn
Almost all of senior midfielder don get injury's

Sign midfielder
Like Nunes or Bellingham

Do you read the news at all? Dortmund aren't ready to lose Bellingham and Haaland in the same window.
Nunes may not fit Klopp's pattern or perhaps the fee is too high for now.
Or maybe our target is for when Milner, Thiago, Keita Chamberlain are gone before we go all out.
What happens if you buy and miraculously all those injured guys never got injured, would you then bench the new guys?
I don't think it's all Klopp's fault. They didn't want a short term fix that's why.

AnfieldFan:
Which RB in your opinion is excellent in defense??

Kyle Walker.
My problem with Trent is, the guy fails to improve on his weaknesses time and again. How many times has Robbo being used?

AnfieldFan:
He's the no. 1 goal keeper in the world, saves us a ridiculous amount of points every season....He goes straight in anytime he's fully recovered... There's no competition with Allison, same way there's no competition with Virgil, or Arnold or Salah ....

Bros, there's competition with Arnold. Aside going forward that guy is shit in defense.

I don't get why most of us are angry with WBD, hope you guys know that WB made a lot of hasty decisions earlier knowing Discovery was going to buy them?
They rushed some films, like quicker than anything, they were the ones who came up with HBO Max, which wasn't what Discovery wanted.
It was like a politician doing all he can to make the work of his successor more difficult to make them the bad guy.
WB that found it difficult releasing DC films started to greenlit films anyhow.

AnfieldFan:
Best goal keeper of last season hasn't been that good
Na you know wetin your own good be

In pre season. And I hate this idea of rushing him to the starting eleven when Adrian has done quite well. There should be an actual competition.

AnfieldFan:
Yea...Speedy recovery..We are solid in defense...

Predicted team line up 2moro??
Kloppo
Minemrys
Openmine
Silentgroper
Uniqueuser

Adrian, Trent, Matip, VVD, Robbo, Elliott, Henderson, Fabinho, Diaz, Firmino Salah.

Alisson shouldn't walk into the team immediately. He hasn't been that good.

Nickshrapnel:
Business-wise, they’d take a tax return of ~$40m on Batgirl. I’m pretty certain it will make more than that if it was released in cinema even without marketing the movie. Anyways, I careless about the movie, so I’m not really bothered about all these cancellations.

That's the part you know sha.

IbrahimMav:
My point is WB haven't been on the same wavelength with DC fans for a long time, and Zaslav is making a dicey situation worse.

I don't think he is making it worse. It was already a mess before he came. I mean Batgirl, Supergirl running an unestablished DCEU with no Superman and Batman that is retired. Like it was already fvcked before he took over.
He is setting a standard according to him and some films don't fit in to what he believes.

IbrahimMav:
A good business is when there is a balance between output and consumer satisfaction.
When output doesn't align with satisfaction, then something isn't right.

And who said the consumer got satisfaction from how the old WB ran things?
You think these guys did not carry out surveys or research?

IbrahimMav:
Zaslav is not a messiah, the man's a fuccking butcher.
That's The Penguin show screwed. I was really looking forward to this show.
At least, Peacemaker, HotD and Snow are safe.

Most of these didn't concern Zaslav. WB originated a lot of problems for the DCEU. Zaslav bought the company and is finding ways to make money.

IbrahimMav:
The least they can do is release it as a limited series on HBO Max
This way, fans will at least get to see the movie before HBO Max fuccks off forever.
It's worth more than the bad PR of cancelling a completed $90m movie.

Like I said, you are just thinking from a fan perspective. They're thinking from a business aspect. E concern them sha.

I don't think some of us get that Batgirl was never in WBD plans and was a film greenlit and rushed into production by the old WB which was AT&T.
I think WBD want to move in a cohesive direction, and I suspected something like this would happen when they brought Affleck back.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Flash movie is heavily reshot and Keaton is removed.
Zack Snyder has been hinting a lot at things and this could be him coming back. Ray Fisher tweeted something the minute news broke that Batgirl was cancelled.
Blue Beatle is safe cause originally he was going to be introduced along with Atom.

PrinceofAgoAre:
Our defense though, CBs to be precise... gomez, vvd, matip, konate and nat phillips..
Remove vvd and matip 4rm that list and we're fvcked.. Gomez is abt d only solid one there.. Konate slip ups will cost us, no be small.. We need at atleast a quality CB in d absence of vvd and matip to strengthen our backline..

And you think said quality CB go want sit down for bench?
Look, these guys slip up but when we want them to do the job, they will with the help of the team and fans. Come on, we made top 4 playing with Philips and Williams.
Give Gomez regular games and he will be good and confident. Konate only needs to be paired with a senior to gain confidence. The guy is still a young boy.
Besides, I think it's up to Klopp to play to the pattern of specific players.

abduleez1:
The talk of bad test screenings is utter crap.
It's funny how you peeps that hardly believes what WB says are now drinking this one hook line sinker cos it's a project y'all don't like in the first place.

It was mainly axed because Zaslav thinks he can't make money off of it. Nothing more, nothing else.

Imagine the crap, "it's so bad it can't be aired even on HBOMax". Utter rubbish which I ain't buying.
So Morbius looks real good. DC turned out prime shït in Suicide Squad and it's still watchable. I ain't buying this cos DC hasn't had a movie real bad since 2017. WW84 and Birds of Prey were mixed.

Lol...why wouldn't WBD find it non profitable?
They know why they cancelled it bro. I don't.

abduleez1:
Wtf am I seeing... Now this is prime dumb.
How TF will u cancel such movie. Highest drop it in HBOMax.
This Zaslav is dumber than he actually portrays if this is true.

On the contrary, No. From what I heard, the test screening was so negative that WBD do not want the negative press from its release. And they thought it was better canceling it than promoting it with another million dollar only for it to bomb. Recall they still need to promote an Ezra Miller film and Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom.

johnyace:
I believe WB has or had a plan for the DCEU after the the flash releases, but I believe that they aren't confident in that plan because if the flash movie fails to sell it to the fans, that would probably be the end of the DCEU.

For me stuff like bringing back Keaton and not knowing what is going on with Superman, spells doom for whatever plans that they have.

Affleck has shown time and time again that he is still willing to play Batman, if they needed an older Batman to play mentor to Batgirl, he fits the role, and is also good enough for any JL movie they plan to have going forward, having Keaton as the main Batman in a JL movie doesn't sound good to me.

I don talk this thing tire. Like what's the point bringing Keaton back?
That's regression not growth.

SMUAG:
Exactly!!!
Just like how Doctor Stranger: MoM and Thor: Love and Thunder had nigh perfect test screening reactions, but the total opposite when they were released...
I don't take fanboys or paid audience reactions seriously until I see it myself...

Exactly. After watching The Boys, I have come to realize that most of the leaks or reactions prior to a movie release are usually a marketing scheme or PR.
These days I no longer watch out for a movie, I only hear that it's out before I watch it.
I don't even know when most films are coming out now and I was shocked to find out black panther and Adam were coming out this year.
I didn't know the boys or Thor were out till people said it was lol.

Xavier5:
I gat your points. But with the directors at the helm of affairs, James Wan and Andy, likewise with the quality of movies DC have been dishing out of recent, I can say Aquaman 2 and The Flash will be amazing

As for those Marvel movies, that one is an entirely different thing. We all know of recent, Marvel have been dishing out mediocrity when it comes to movies. It's their TV series that are good.
That's why I'm not getting my hopes high for Wakanda Forever. Marvel being Marvel, they might ending up ruining that movie.


#Xavier
#DCian

Am not talking about Marvel, am saying no one should get all too carried away by test screenings. Every test screening report is always positive. Cause it's ditched out by the studio's marketing team.

I hope you all know that the so called test screening reactions are from WB's marketing team lol...
It's part of the marketing to build hype. I'd rather no one takes them serious.

kendrick93:
I also think he should have been played in a more attacking role..
Right now he's basically doing a Gini role..
When he was coming up at the academy he used to player either behind a striker or on the wings..
Quite surprised Klopp trusts Elliot in attacking midfield role but can't do same for Curtis..
IMO Curtis is the better player than Elliot and would perform better in a more attacking midfield role

Eliot also plays as an 8. Klopp does not use a 10. Or attacking midfielder. The AM is the false 9. But since we have a number 9 now then yes, but sadly that role goes to Carvalho now.

uniqueuser:
I strongly believe we will be seeing more of 4-2-3-1 as against 4-3-3. Trent doesn't has that physicality to play DM. About injuries...fingers crossed, with the amount of matches we played last season ehn...sha options dey

Between Fabinho and Trent who has more weight? Or pace.
You can't judge him based on how he plays as a RB for how he will play as a DM.

Xavier5:
Bro, nothing is going to happen to The Flash. It may not gross up to expectation but it won't flop.

Ezra Miller can't make Flash flop. The movie is bigger than Ezra Miller himself. How can a movie that involves Affleck, Keaton and Andy flop simply because Miller messed up, even if he's the lead character. The fact that he will be recasted is enough to put off his influence on the movie.

What WB/ DC needs is good marketing and I have stated how they can do that some time back. If WBD plays their card well they will turn the whole situation into a positive one. This is a piece of cake, there's nothing there.

As for people threatening to boycott the movie, well that's how they've been threatening all this while. Shey they also threatened to boycott The Batman, how far?
Bro, the boycotters are just a minority, they don't have the capacity to influence the performance of a movie. They're just whiners, they're not people you take serious. So if they want to boycott, they should go ahead and boycott. Their boycotting won't affect the positive performance of the movie on bit.

Flash may not gross up to expectation but it will not be a flop. That movie will gross a minimum of $700M. The unveiling of the new or rebooted JL is really going to contribute in boosting it.


#Xavier
#DCian

Same way a Justice league movie made twice it's budget and went on to gross 1billion in the box office right.

mikuz:
Trent has to be the worst person in Liverpool to ever play DM. His defensive lapses will ensure that we ship in 5 goals every match. It's like you are under estimating the sensitivity of that position. Milner will do a better job than Trent will ever do in that position. Why are so bent on Trent playing there? You don't want us to compete this season or what? Please leave it for the veterans. Disembark from this your postulations bros

How come those lapses haven't prevented us shipping goals while he plays RB? Hope you know DM is different from CB and there are many ways to play the role that isn't strictly about defending. He can play it differently like the Kante kind or as a deep lying playmaker.
Playing as a CDM or DM is all about reading the game and having an eye for passes that transition defense to attack. It's just one full preseason that he will be given to test himself in the role. And the fact he has played as a Midfielder or is a natural Midfielder gives him an edge. His lapses at RB are because he of the role he plays at RB where a lot of times he overlaps. As a DM, he doesn't need to overlap that often.

Nickshrapnel:
Flash movie won’t flop, lol

Baba, e go hard to promote am without the lead. And some would want to boycott it.
To me, after all the stories about Miller, I could care less about it.

abduleez1:
Starting afresh takes us back to square one. We can't afford that now especially with the momentum of the MCU. It means we accept defeat that we failed and that doesn't bode a lot of confidence in upcoming projects.
In fact it will be hard to convince audience to watch them sef.

We just need to reboots thing not needed or things holding the franchise back and move forward.

Bros, we are already back to square one. There's no clear story as it is or a build up to a big event. Flash film will tank so bad because of Ezra Miller. We have had 4 avengers film and by 2025 could have 6 Avengers films without a JL 2 or MOS 2. So what's the progress?
You guys seeing HC as the bad guy don't know the full details. HC even though he is all for the money, has sacrificed a lot for things he considers a passion project.
WB didn't want a MOS 2 but WBD that's wanting a MOS 2 will need to convince him with a good script and direction and he will be back.
He loves Superman and it's not just the money for him. It's easier to put a man down or blame him without knowing the full story.

uniqueuser:
LOL Trent as a DM? then Fabinho as number 9 ba... Trent should stick to his RB, we also have Gomez, Milner and the new boy Ramsey as backup... selling Neco wasn't a mistake, we can't guarantee him game time.

How are you guys all sure that Trent can't play DM? Robertson can also play DM if I am to believe but not sure.
The reason why I am saying this is, I smell midfield injuries this season, and it's about time Klopp starts looking at Midfield options.
New boy Ramsay? Baba, no just reason am. Milner can't play there against some teams. Hope you watched the Man City game at Anfield where he was almost red carded? Our only serious RB cover is Joe Gomez.
And he plays differently to Trent. Ramsay on the other hand is not premier league material yet. Unless we want to keep Sepp van den Berg.

abduleez1:
Remove Keaton from Batgirl and flash say wetin happen.

It's already a PR nightmare.

For a total reboot. So we know we are starting afresh.