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frosbel: Jesus is the physical image of his spiritual father.

RoyPCain: @Nzechu: lets just assume that Jesus said what you said he said. Lets assume further his statement of his covers all of us. We have to say all that he said therefore covers only the generation from him forward. hence, the fact that he is the only way is false because it will not cover those before him.

The only way we can know who is that another comforter will be primarily by the duties Jesus said the another comforter will discharge. The one who discharges this duty therefore takes the mantle of leadership from the hand of Jesus and carries it forward to eternity.

It is not possible to have a ghost who didnt fulfill the duties be the another comforter. And since Jesus didnt know all things, the time for the another comforter to come belongs to God, Alone.

So if the duties are fulfilled after 600 years it was spoken, cant you therefore follow the one who fulfilled them seeing that Jesus hadnt returned as he promised his disciples as evidence of his not knowing the timing of the coming of the another comforter?

It you do not obey the statement of Jesus above, how come you are in the right to tell us who follow the another comforter who passed the biblical test of bible prophetic test of "the spirit of God is upon the true prophet because such a prophet will say Jesus is the christ"?

frosbel: Jesus disagrees :

"why do you call it blasphemy when I say, 'I am the Son of God'? After all, the Father set me apart and sent me into the world." - John 10:36


GOD also disagrees with you :

John 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him

frosbel: Jesus is not GOD , he is the Son of GOD, even SATAN knows this.

shdemidemi: I will never advertise any pastor neither will I tell you where to go to find the truth. One thing is for sure though, if you really/genuinely look for the truth/God you will eventually find it.

shdemidemi: Anyone who teaches the gospel according to the scriptures is not false. You can list all the 'big' pastors you know, as long as their teachings and practices are not inline with the gospel, they are false.

alexis: Which Jesus are we talking about? The Jesus in the Quran or the Jesus in the Bible?

1. The Jesus in the Bible was born in a manger. The one in the Quran was born under a palm tree
2. The Jesus in the Bible never spoke as a baby. The one in the Quran spoke as an adult and created a live bird out of clay
3. The Jesus in the Bible was killed and died. The one in the Quran never died, or did die in some places but muslims reject it
4. The Jesus in the Bible was crucified. The one in the Quran said he was not

So, we need to know which Jesus you are talking about

shdemidemi: Mr Kumuyi is definitely a false teacher and that is the issue at hand. I believe frosbel is just being permissive by not mentioning what the issue really is.

RoyPCain: @truthman2012; i didn't say christians will cross, because they will not be able to cross over, but fail and fall into the fire as it is that they are not muslims {read Quran chapter 19, starting from verse 65 through 74 and then get the explanation from the hadith]. what you say with your mouth, if it is not true with God, you have made a lie seem like the truth.

angels by nature do not belong to the devil and the devil and his legions are completely different from angels. no angel is devilish. i think you forget that Jesus does not belong to the christian religion, and he is not of jewish religion, but of Jewish race and a muslim.

jlounge: And since people leave virtually any assembly for some reason (s), does that make all assemblies evil? Can you start a ministry where everyone agrees with you? Tell us where it is

BetaThings: Should I not be tempted to call you a liar given that your experience in a public school is different from mine?
You really think I would have bothered to learn "the Lord's prayer...."; "Rock of Ages....", "Thine for Ever..." "fight the Good Fight with ...."if IRK was available?

We read from the Bible. I had my own copy
If you say what we read from it was not the truth, I will not disagree with you

1. There are schools where Christians teach IRK. So you can imagine the "conviction" they demonstrate

2. You said "religious studies" not IRK.

3. And in any case I did not say I am an authority on CRK. But I remember quite well some of the things that I read and was taught. They are really very very different from what I see Christians do in real life!

frosbel: I have not abused, insulted or used profane words against anyone, I simply spoke the truth and you hate me for it ?

RoyPCain: @mintayo; as a christian, do you have a word or phrase or sentence you use to curse satan? do you not curse him? because you are not please with him? please provide the exact word or phrase or sentence from the pages of the bible.

and as to the confusion or not, if i tell you my opinion, and you know its my opinion, can you accept it as my mother's exact word?

if i said to you i am clean shaven and you see my picture or see me talking to somebody at the corner with a big afro, have i lied when i said i am bold right now?


i am so sure of my authority that i curse anyone who may change anything of what is in a book that my father, my much older older brother and i penned. but my statement is completely opposite that of my father, who is the subject of the story and my older brother who is in agreement with him. if i say that my father's statement is 100% correct and i am claiming that i am advancing it with my 180 degrees different story. so i mounted opposition and fought my older brother to submission. who do you think is the liar among the 3 of us? if i insist i am 100% correct what will be your opinion of me and my writing and who is at fault in all of this if i am not? if i can send a curse on anyone changing anything, who is the first to receive the curse, were the curse effective, if my father was 100% correct because it is his story?

frosbel: I owe you nothing but Love in Christ, where I fellowship aint your business.

flourishG: nobody is condemning.i hate this attitude when pple like frosbel n other say d truth and the disciples of men like some pple we see here come to defend their leaders.there's no condemnation whatsoever for those who are in christ.so we simple say d truth but some babbysitters don't like their pastors talked to n dat becomes an issue of contention.when their pastor or organization does what is wrong, they shld be able to admit it n move on, no one is above mistake or error but to begin to cover up for their hypocrisy is gross unrighteousness n dats da issue here.

BetaThings: I did not even have this choice in a public secondary school. I had to learn CRK and nothing else
But the "truth" I learnt from the experience has set me free from some things

maclatunji: Hahahaha as defined by you right?
#Delusion

texaco1: that is becos u are ok ,if u are in problem or in a matter of life and death , you will do anything you are asked to do once u are sure that ur problems will be solved

kullechhi: I agree with @frosbel all the way, the Church belongs to Christ and not man.
Even Paul said that follow me as I follow Christ. If Paul deviates from the Teachings of Jesus, then I do not follow him.

texaco1: my bro,if i tell u what happens in many churches nationwide trust me u wont bother going to church anymore.
strange things ,and most of them are created to instill fear in their members.deeperlife own is just about dressing which is even ok .do u know that there is a church in the south west that when entering it u must enter with ur heads bowed?i have seen it before.
the reason is simple,people have problems and they will obey any command from anyone they can physically see ,and who they believe can help them

vedaxcool: ^
but not as funny as the story. of a certain father who became his own son, so as to die for his own brothers. /sons.which he later.did by organizing his own murder /sacrifice, which made the father who is now his own son to accuse h himself as the father of forsaking himself - the father who is his own son. now after sacrificing /murdering. himself the father who iou is his own son now had to disguise himself initially. as a gardner then something. else. in order to hide from the same people he was suppose to save. so as for them not to kill him a second time, sir your religion. sounds too brilliant

maclatunji: Should we create a new thread and see how Christianity changes on almost a daily basis?

frosbel: discipline for disobeying the traditions of MEN ?

They should leave that church and follow JESUS, deeperlife is a CULT.

steph7: eeerm, what is wrong with ben 10, y'all shouldn't tell me its demonic

deSika: Moderator Maclatunji doing wat he knows how to do best.

You have changed the tittle of the thread.
Atleast you tried by not deleting it.

RoyPCain: ;
there are 7 heavens already.

which one is yours?

i know God is One and He is not a man or son of man. Jesus was a man and son of man. Yet you call him God. what is right in this your calling son of man and man God?

if son of man came on earth to mate with fair daughters of man, how can you claim that they are spirits?

I have to remind you that Jesus promised 100 folds of anything a man leaves for his sake, including his wife. there is breaking up of marriage in this statement which i am sure you realize since whatever God join together no son of man or man or angel should break them up. but the 100 wives for 1 wife left is my evidence for what is done on earth will be done in christian heaven, according to this statement of the bible.

so if you have a religion and worship by it, on earth, bible says get ready to continue it in heaven.

and tell us what type of work keeps God busy, after the bible says He rested on the 7th day and He was refreshed? the bible said rested and refreshed so explain what rested and refreshed mean, if you can.

Neither you nor I believe Jesus is the only way to God, except that I recognize the fallacy and you are ignoring it, looking for a cheap salvation.

The fact that God rejected the plea of Jesus about himself is enough evident to not put your trust in him, if the Bible were to have been correct.

The rescuer is Islam where the Quran given to Muhammad [sa] restored the damaged image of Jesus and made it part of Islamic faith to believe that Jesus was not rejected by God but rescued.

i pray that The Guiding Light of God enters your heart. Amin.

andromida: I know of only one God the possessor of heaven and earth so how can there be different heavens? Surely you know God is one and is the creator of all things even satan. It seems you don't know that in heaven we are spirit beings with no religion. There are still other creatures apart from angels in heaven and its not a place where no work is done. Even God does not sleep or slumber what do you think he is doing? if the Almighty is working 24/7 what do you think the sons of God will be doing in heaven?

Condemn Jesus? how? Jesus himself said these- i am the way the truth and life no one cometh unto the father except through me. do you believe this? if you don't then you are condemning Jesus as a liar. Your point is that you say you do not need Salvation through Christ you can do it by yourself since Christ didn't die and the bible is corrupt. I on the other hand simply believe Jesus.

I cannot condemn anyone. I am in no position to judge. If God deems it fit to shine his light and keep producing humans in different languages,religion,countries etc i must be foolish to think i have a deeper understanding than the Almighty. My understanding is limited, i only know what resonates as pure and true in my spirit.

You say Christians created an "arrogant Jesus" why do you call his testimony of himself arrogant? we only state his testimony and believe them as he asked us to. The testimony of Jesus is the Gospel and its not debatable its a take it or leave it thing.It is faith and it defies logic.