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truthman2012: I don't see frosbel as representing the Christians. He could be a muslim in disguise. All his posts are against Christian doctrines. It could be a trick if he surrendered to lagosshia.

I have told ayenny too that he only deals with the letters of the Bible. He doesn't know the meaning. He only copies his posts from islamic websites and paste them on nairaland. Most of the time he doesn't go through his quotations.

Ayenny plays trick with his posts. If you notice, his posts are always unnecessarily long, making response to all of them very difficult, He does all the talk by his lengthy posts. He hates good points against his posts and turn aggresive. Tell him to take it easy as there is no compulsion in religion.

RoyPCain: @cleanvessel; i dont know if you realize the importance of challenging a statement.

you said the building of Kaaba is at the at the earliest is by Ibrahim [sa] hence it will be incorrect because clearly it is Solomon [as] who built the Jerusalem temple and it is impossible for the difference between them to be 40 years. I agreed and i know that Ibrahim [as] was not the first to build the kaaba, then if 40 years have to be between the 2 buildings, it will not be referring to the two men and their involvement in the project of building the two structures. 40 years is just 2 generation of today. say from 1973 to 2013, a relatively short period and definitely a greater amount of years existed between Ibrahim and Suleyman [as to both]. I researched it and found that 40 years actually occurred between [in the very] first time of each structure being erected. I said the builder was Adam [as] who built first the Kaaba in Makka and was ordered to walk to Jerusalem to build Baitul Maqdis.

You said i was wrong and i said research it because its a public knowledge. i even gave you a pointer. if you want me to give you everything on gold platter, because silver platter is inferior in this case, all you have to say is that look i do not have the ability to research it. you dont have say more than that and i will give you the excerpt and the website so that you can read it with all the explanations.


but to be arrogant, especially when you are clearly wrong is not a good thing.

cleanvessel: I said Christianity is inviting to the 'good and tender hearted'. I used the phrase on purpose. I didn't mean people with Pharaoh's heart.

Yes, the west is falling in christian faith. The world loves darkness more than light. Jesus said when I come back, shall I find faith? (Luke 18: .Yes, it is happening.

The road to heaven is very narrow and only a few people are on it (Mat. 7:14). The multitude in false religions of the world are not there.

That (religion) which is highly esteemed among men is an abomination to God (Luke 16:15). False religions will expand greatly as the end time draws nearer because many shall be deceived.

I feel very uneasy when I see people swimming in satanic deception and there is noway of correcting them that will not look as oppossing them. The Bible warns that if a watchman fails to blow the trumphet when danger is coming, the people will die, but their blood God said He will require from him (watchman).

You may hold the quran in high esteem, yet there are many unanswered questions and their answers will make a sincere person think twice. God has ways He had been dealing with His prophets and when there is a prophet whose messages and actions fall short of God's standard, it is the duty of the watchmen to blow their trumphet to avert danger.

I discovered from the word of God that He didn't appoint His prophets through angels. It is like a president of a country sending his messenger to appoint a minister on his behalf. Angels are God's messengers. Something must be wrong somewhere.
Shalom.

maclatunji: This is what someone just said to my hearing. She was a Christian that became a Muslim by virtue of marrying a Muslim man.

What do you think about such a belief? How does it affect the quality of her faith as a Muslim?

What is the position of Islam on the faith of women?

Let us talk about these issues.

ayenny02: We worship GOD Almighty in the direction of His Grand Temple/House.  We never worship the Temple/House itself.  The Bible's Prophets in the Bible also had a "House of GOD Almighty" that they worshiped Him in.  Also, the Jews' wailing wall today is a similar example to the Muslims' Kaaba, where the Jews pray to GOD Almighty facing the wall.  The Bible also says:

"I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 138:2)"
To simply put it:  You must bow down in humility to GOD Almighty.  That's a must and a given.  So, you must physically bow down somewhere, and naturally to some direction!  If you were to do it right now, you would be bowing towards a random direction.  Your physical presence on earth forces this upon you as a prostrating Believer to GOD Almighty, whether you like it or not. 

The bowing down to GOD Almighty in the direction of the Kaaba, or the city of Mecca in general, is a way to unify all Muslims to bow down to GOD Almighty, as one body and one unity, towards one direction and towards His Holy Temple.

As to worshiping the cubic black building, the Kaaba, we absolutely do not worship it.  The Prophet of Islam said that the spilling OF A SINGLE DROP OF BLOOD from a Believer is more dearer to Allah Almighty than the demolishing of the entire Kaaba.  In other words, a single drop of blood from a Muslim Believer is more dearer to Allah Almighty than the entire black cubic building

So it is not something we worship.  It is only a point and a direction that brings us together as one.

Isiri: @mintayo. Jesus surrender himself to death and still crying to God for help.

Bros, u b confuse human like apostle paul. Anyhow, just to let u knw dat hv finally accepted islam,,hv takin d bath and can't wait for d month of ramandan to start.

I pray Allah to open ur mind and reason like I do. Abi u still dey wait 4 d white man dat always appear to u in toilet and club lol

noblefada: Haha I'm really lol! I enjoy seeing u confuse each time I confront u wit d truth. Guess u never imagined dat there are some NLders who are well read in scriptures. As I told u & logicboy, anytime any day I'll always have a superior argument because I'm well read.

Just 2 burst ur bubble again 4 d fun of it. The John14:1 u quoted was not talking about mansions as in house or rooms, but it's translated dwelling places. The believer is now God's house God's dwelling place. If u read dat chapter down u will see it in vs 23: Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode (dwelling places) with him. And see also 1Cor 6:19: What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Now let ask u a question since u've been talking abt duplicity as falsehood, how come if Islam is so perfect that you people have the shia & Sunni Muslims who believe in one prophet but go about murdering one another case in note is Iraq & Syria?

deSika: i just cleared up the rubbish you just spewed. you have a problem, seriously you have a problem
1. after showing you where Gabriel said the holyspirit will come upon Mary instead of "I Gabriel will come upon you" you still come out to show your foolishness.

2. your folly is exposed when you bypass the fact that when Holyspirit is mentioned, he is mentioned as 1 always, when angels are mentioned as spirits they are mentioned as many (spirits). have you ever heard of HolySpirits. why does the bible always mention HolySpirit (one) and never Holyspirits (many). why are angels called spirits and never called Holyspirits. its because the HolySpirit is a distinct spirit, he is actually the spirit of God himself. while the angels though spirits are never and i mean never called Holyspirits, they are outside of God.yes they are made by God.

3. the Holyspirit is not an angel and is not a chosen leader of the angels to God’s prophets and messengers

if i ask you where you got you will start hitting your head to the ceiling

deSika: i just cleared up the rubbish you just spewed. you have a problem, seriously you have a problem
1. after showing you where Gabriel said the holyspirit will come upon Mary instead of "I Gabriel will come upon you" you still come out to show your foolishness.

2. your folly is exposed when you bypass the fact that when Holyspirit is mentioned, he is mentioned as 1 always, when angels are mentioned as spirits they are mentioned as many (spirits). have you ever heard of HolySpirits. why does the bible always mention HolySpirit (one) and never Holyspirits (many). why are angels called spirits and never called Holyspirits. its because the HolySpirit is a distinct spirit, he is actually the spirit of God himself. while the angels though spirits are never and i mean never called Holyspirits, they are outside of God.yes they are made by God.

3. the Holyspirit is not an angel and is not a chosen leader of the angels to God’s prophets and messengers

if i ask you where you got you will start hitting your head to the ceiling

frosbel: Only Jesus can save, you cannot get salvation in any church , church does not make you holy , in fact there are many hypocrites in church with bad fruit.

Stick to the Bible , Pal.

Isiri: Bros abeg do as lanrextian said. Leave mintayo alone and let him continue fooling himself in worshipping brian deacon.

Van snickers: [img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1148846_manflames_jpg5efbc6c6c65cc34ae76157edb4e5fa6f[/img]

Loving God indeed.

Isiri: Can jus stop laffin any time I read a testimony like this. U wicked than devil himself lol.

teniyi: That still remain the simplicity of Islam. What about your fellow Christians that has a lot of vices such as homosexual, teenage pregnancy and abortion?
You built your churches with dirty money. One Alaba armed rubber that was arrested recently, when he confessed after being arrested, he had killed so many people and collect their valuables, he said his brother just established a new church, and you know what, he is the promoter of the church. That was where he had spent the recently monies he stole. Egbe ni fun yin ati owo egbi yen! Woe unto you and the corrupt money!

alexleo: Now you can see what I told you about frosbel. In his pride he is busy criticizing men whom God has been using to convert and nuture souls for heaven. He is the only righteous man in his own eyes. That's what pride can do to a person. The log of wood in his eyes he has failed to remove but he is busy pursuing the speck in other people's eyes. Yes we agree no church is perfect and nobody is perfect but is that the reason why people who are labouring to win and nuture souls for the kingdom of God should be insulted, abused and kicked? Is that what these men deserve for their years of labour for the gospel to be received by people. Certainly not. Even frosbel himself is a beneficiary of the work of salvation and knowledge of the word through these churches he is here abusing as if he is perfect. How else can one be defined as being an ingrate? Yet we all know that he is nothing near being perfect. For me, even if I decide to leave Apostolic Faith tomorrow that will not warrant my abusing them. I am not the type that forget the good impact that anybody made in my life for any reason.

solidbroda: Last time I checked, Hegins and Hin are part of the Order of the Freemasons. Is that part of the Holy spirit gift?

faroukbabs: the salvation plan of islam is clear
believe in God alone and do not associate partners to him- 1st commandment
obey his messengers to mankind.
try as much as u can to obey him
when u fall into sin, seek forgiveness and he will forgive u and he will grant you paradise
our God does not need to kill anybody to show us mercy

olaheavy1: That alone is evident that the Islamic clerics are humble and spiritual than the greedy, avaricious, and kleptomaniac pastors and gods-of-men in christendom. Of the two religions, the world is able to delineate which is materialistic and vainglorious! The christian gods-of-men such as David Oyedepo believe in amazing ill-gotten wealth while the Islamic preachers like Muhydeen Bello look heavenly for their reward! Go figure

Isiri: Bros all u said make no sense to me,am sorry to say.the bible is ur choice while d holy koran is now mine ok and dere is no where in the holy koran that said Jesus christ is d savior,lord or son of God. And no body is superior between them,God Almighty sent both of them to mankind. I will never belittle Muhammed anymore,I believe is teaching and accept him as man of God and my mentor same with Jesus and other men of God. Koran is my holy book now ok so all u saying is nonsense to my hear. Bros go to church tomorrow nd let me go to where my heart desire.cnt wait to b dere nd announce my new faith to my friends.wanna die as a muslim now. Pls my muslim brother,help me beg this bros to let me be..I luv islam and luv Muhammed. His a traitor,thief,murderer,rapist all dat to ur tent,I still luv him and respect him more than Jesus of the bible. Have seen d light bro. Asalam alakun

lanrexlan: All what you wrote above is rubbish,leave the brother alone.When the op,mr liar said he accepted christianity,nobody disturbed him again after he can't answer the questions posed to him and his friend that died and come to life again,funny people nobody disturbed both of them.The brother said he has accepted Islam from the bottom of his heart and he has seen the truth,ALLIAMUADULILAH.You can die in your ignorance,but I swear by my creator,you are in plain error and when Jesus(pbuh)comes back,if you are still on earth he will deny you all.When you are put in your grave that's when you will realise Jesus(pbuh) was a man and a prophet of God and has no share in divinity.....Peace

jjcbuthot: Is Arisakola Alao collecting money from people in the mosque? Do they collect tithe in mosques?

Mosque is not a business center unlike churches.

goodtalk: . Try look at the issue properly can u tell me who is a logosian? If i was born in lagos and my parents are from edo state what state should i claim? Edo abi! Their are millions of people that where born in lagos and their parents are from other states, their parents have lived donkeys of years in lagos such, as even their children can but only speak yoruba and such categories of people have business running into billion of naira in lagos, with countless number housing properties dotting evey nook and cranier of t'he state and you are telling all this people should go back to their states to vote during election abi? U dont seem to understand that t'he people of lagos early indigence and later indigence all have eqUal rights, if indeed the moslems be they conservative or otherwise dont like large and decorated mosques maybe u need to look at t'he once in mecca and medina is not from there t'he message has been spread globally, u can also check t'he abuja monsque and most central monsque in all of the stateS of t'he federation, i feel its inapprioprate for you to call churches place that are business driven rather say they are places Godly driven that would be better, we go to church to serve t'he lord. Periodt

deols: with Oyo state having 80% Muslims as an estimate, we wont only continuously have Muslim governors but Muslim first ladies as well.

The bigot called cleric should be arrested like someone said.

Isiri: Wanna ask u bro,can u show me on any other religion books apart frm bible dat say Jesus Christ is d only way to God.

I blve all prophet of God are way to God nd all religion books preach d samething whch is salvation to God nd humanity.

I luv Jesus Christ than u,I blve in all his miracles and wonder and to me he is not anymore my lord nd hv reject d teachin of calling him son of God anymore.

Dere lot of argument on dat here whch no xtian has prove rite.

Islam are bold to defend dere religion anywhere,dey had challenge we xtian here for a live debate on many occasion here instead u all turn it to insult and seat in ur church continue deceivin pple jus like d way u dey sweet mouth me here.come dere if u hv wat it takes to win me back nd stop tellin me wat I was born wit.Shalom

Isiri: Bro mintayo.... U calling sum1 u dnt kw a born sinner wen bible teach us not to judge.

well,u are not diff frm my blood brother who fat on church money nd deceive pple wit fake teachin.

bro,why dnt u cum dere nd challenge or question him and let see who is fake.

swtxt: Seun to marry her ke? [size=2pt]That one na punishment o[/size]

Isiri: Mintayo....wat is ur prb wit me. It is only in ur bible dat Jesus is d way which paul put in ur mouth to deceive u.

I repeat God is my personal savior now.it is u that will perish in hell fire.

Jesus Christ will deny u all on judgment day while paul will lead u all to hell fire.

E dey pain u say one of ur maga don xcape abi lol

Mintayo...I will get back to u when I cum back from Dr Naik this sunday at ogba or we met there. Never listen to islam preacher b4 so this will be my 1st outing since I accept islam..he will be the one to decide for me base on the topic he want to treat

though am 99% muslim,my mum own the 1%. Thanks for ur effort.

BetaThings: Actually it is Christians that cling to Islam
How many threads about Christianity do we open. Compare that to your obsession with Islam through your threads
Although I believe you rapidly resort to attack so that we don't expose your mind-boggling issues
Go to the religious section and see how Christians, upon being attacked by atheists, quickly try to turn the arguments towards Islam
It is Christians that join with atheists to attack Islam
Rejoicing when France banned hijab
and I believe must both must be joyous now that gay marriage has been approved by that sick country

Of course, we are not SIMILAR to you
Do you see Muslims attribute disgraceful parenthood to Jesus (PBUH)?
or attribute disgusting deeds to God?

Look Muslims don't have the liver for the blasphemy contained in the Bible

deols: The name Zakir Naik!!

ma sha Allah.

The anti Islamists hear of him and fear.

He sneezes and they catch cold.

God bless this man!

The only reason you don't want to see him is you are afraid of the truth.

The light shall conquer darkness.
It is about time Dr. Zakir Naik.
I will try my best to be there when he arrives in sha Allah.