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Caveat: My opinion isn't cast in stone. And I tried to be as objective as I can as a "young man."

Rape is a graveous crime. It compares best to murder because like death, the effect(s) can never be undone.
Absolutely no woman (girl) deserves to be raped by any man.


But then, it's necessary to understand that "men don't rape women because they are men and women are women."

Rape doesn't explicitly stem from the urge to "man over a woman."


RATHER it stems from the societal idealization of a woman as a sexual gratification object.


From the songs we listen to, the movies we see, the contents we read on social media to almost every thing our day-to-day lives revolve around, classify womanhood through the prism of "sex."
Ukwu, Twerk, Bumbum, Slay Queen, Olosho, are just few of the words that have been normalized to objectify women.


Alas! Even the "objects" have been wired to accept being objectified, and live within the paremeter of being seen as "objects."

You see women snapping pictures to magnify their bum and display their boobs just to be validated by the same society that objectified them.


And the worst thing? Men are wired by the same society to see these "objects" as trophies that are reserved only for the "fittest," "wealthiest" and "smartest"

So in retrospect, we have a society that expects men to be "dogs" and women to be "objects."


And when some "objects" whether through certain circumstances or personal reflections refuse to be "objectified," some "dogs" in the euphoria of winning an extra trophy resort to violence in the form of rape to force the object into submission subservience.

So we have a case of a man preferring "the euphoria of winning an extra trophy" forcefully to giving in to "fair play" that the society seemingly forget to include in the rules guiding the game��‍♂


In short, rape may never go away because similar to money rituals, yahoo yahoo, armed robbery, etc (spurred by the elevation of "get rich or die trying" mindset in our society) it has become a conscious part of our society.

So while we wish the menace away, it's necessary we go back to the basics and reprogram our societal standards.


Don't expect the same Wizkid, Tiwa Savage and Davido that objectified you in their songs to lead the change.

As a woman, there's a need to take it upon yourself to resist the societal attempt to objectify yourself. Your "womanness" is not by how good you conform to the stupid societal standard of you being an object. You're a woman and that alone validates your "womanness"

And as a man, you need to understand that the idea of being "a dog who respects no fair play in the game" only puts you in the same pedestal as animals. Your real trophy will come from the number of women you choose to treat strictly as "women" and not "objects" like the society implores you to do. You're a man not a dog!


Rapists are criminals and should be treated as such. SAY NO RAPE!

AmazingMOG:
hell is your abode go mark my word.

You can't enter heaven without being a believer that goes to church.

I repeat none Christian will never make heaven, if you’re not a Christian you better give your life to Christ


NB: be very careful when quoting or I’ll open the gate of hell for you and your family

If I be a Man of God!

LOL. The certainty with which you spewed this trash en. I hope it doesn't count against you in heaven, lol

danqujigy:
Abeg let the guy go, the guy is not matured at all, he talk like he do give job. I know their types. Believe me guys you have nothing to loose

Ow many info have you yourself provided? Just because the dude got into a random argument, he has suddenly turned immatured and unhelpful. Yet the same guy has been the one supplying most of the infos. Seems more like a jealousy than sensibility.

SHAKABOOM:
When will Nigeria move on?

Nigeria keep marginalizing Igbo's and u are asking when they will move on?
If they complain instead of addressing issues Nigerians threaten them with war.

Igbos are always marginalized yet they can't stay back in their region? When will you people stop this victim mentality? Every single person In Nigeria is a victim of poor governance. The few ones who escaped the victimhood earned it by going all out. Nothing will be given to the igbos on the platter of gold. Keep up with the threats fellas!

pazienza:
Population then was 5.4m. Today we are looking at 40m.
That's like increase by a factor 6.

So in real sense. That 400k difference then, would also increase by a factor of 6 , so that's like 2.4million difference by today.

So using the 1952 census, Igbo population should be 2.4million more than those of Yorubas in Nigeria.

Well, the yorubas didn't die in mass during Civil War.

Jakemedg:
No need going back and forth on this issue .You said Northerners should be separated from Southerners yet you know Southerners can't do without North

Sorry to say, but no be same oil from the south Nigeria dey feed on? Outside the privileges Nigeria offers, how has northerners fared globally? How many northerners are even private professionals? Most of the big farms up north are even owed by politicians and their relatives.

No disrespect to any of the regions, but I think it's ultimate injustice for some selected group(s) to be feeding fat on the commonwealth of a minority group all in the name of political power. I doubt there's any region without any form of competitive advantage. North has Agriculture. SW/SE is blessed with Human Capital. SS has crude oil. Let each region manage her resources and the pace with which her people prosper. The current arrangement is parasitic at best.

2023 should be about any candidate who's ready to restructure this country. We can't afford more years feeding the worst of our nation, while our best brains are left to feed on crumbs.

Yenefer:
No they are all business men children, no politicians children amongst them. if I send politicians children pic with cars herme bags, etc here u will commit suicide. All low-key

Ow many northern businessmen made it without political patronage?

omonnakoda:
Back in those days?

Were you there?
Do you have video evidence?

Leave story
Nothing has changed

Leave them now. My mum said prostitution, waywardness and pre-marital sex have been the norms even before she was born. The liberalization of our society only made it more open.

superlightning:
last time we checked, Lagos was the 3RD WORST CITY TO LIVE IN after two Middleeast wartorn cities

Yet the average igbo man sees the place as heaven on earth.

rdokoye:
They're not against dominating Igbo people though. They just want to benefit from whatever it is we have to offer.

We offer religious and political balance to the country. We also generate funds for Lagos, which is the only livable city/state in the SW.

LOL. Mention one livable city/state in SE

mrvitalis:
U really lack comprehension skills I swear ...go n sleep

You really have issues with objectivity. Abuja can't do 5 years without Nigeria talk more of 30 years. 75% of Abuja's GDP revolves around Federal civil service. Remove that, and you have a grounded city. Lagos on its own will feed itself and other south west States comfortably for decades without Nigeria.

mrvitalis:
The day u try Jack ...that day we would send all of u back to ibadan

Ojukwu said more than this

mrvitalis:
Firstly Lagos can survive because over 70 years investment by all Nigerians ...it's not a Yoruba thing .... in the next 30 years Abuja would survive without federal allocation it's not a northern project


Secondly there was never a time Lagos State allocation was withheld never ...it was local government allocation and it has happened to bayelsa too ...when u create local government without federal approval that's what u get .....

There is internet verify lies they told ...no body they believe Yoruba propaganda again

How will Abuja survive for 30 years without Nigeria's allocation? You and this your hallucination-induced analysis en

falopey:
Give your life to Christ the savior. Don’t end up like your dad. It’s God that’s is talking to you through this your experience. That’s not a kind of thing everyone experience about their loved ones who are already dead. But God loves you to let you have such an insight. Your dad loves you too he wish he could come back to tell you about Jesus

Let me chip in with a little of my personal experience. I lost my sister a couple of years ago. She was a very devoted Christian and a leader in the church. She was seen on different occasions after her death being happy. Seen by my mum her mother and by another member of her church. Since her own mother saw it even while she was still mourning her death. That gave me all I needed to know

I have heard this same Line of story albeit with righteous people who practised Islam before they died. What do you have to say to that?

Macro231101:
Sir its d simple truth ...U can only Get to God through Jesus ,if u don't blive in him u re going to Hell

LOL. So you actually believe you're going to heaven?

Skepticus:


You can't sow a seed of oranges and harvest pineapples.

The rampaging COVID-19 disease would expose the several years of government inefficiency, mass ignorance/illiteracy, stupid religiousity and moral malaise within the Nigerian system.

No one should be surprised at the recent turn of events. It would only get worse.

But as usual, Nigerians would still vote another idiot in 2023, 2027 and beyond.

Is the over 57k deaths in USA also a result of voting an idiot?

mrvitalis:
You want to argue that too the stats are everywhere ooh

Sorry bro, you're nothing but a dunce. You claimed a yoruba student topped Jamb after 20 years because the body is headed by yoruba man. You foolishly failed to note that Jamb has mostly had yorubas in charge from 1999 till death, when your so called igbo people were leading in the exams.

mrvitalis:
Oga is this state looks well to you then you are not normal

A Yoruba man heads the agency ...and ad usual igbos are targeted ...it's normal

Yoruba man become heads of jamb and south east lose its place as top region in jamb ..for the first time in over 20 years ...bro the facts are there
The hatred is real

Who was heading Jamb in all those 20 years? You guys should be taking to the lab for studies on low esteem.

mrvitalis:
Gust who money was use to buy the land ? What did we come to Lagos with nothing ...we go back as millionaires ...if Nigeria divides today ...south east is the only region whose GDP would grow instantly ...the rest would shrink

Guy, abeg close this thread already. You're beginning to sound like a broken record

mrvitalis:
Based on GDP/ capital the average Igbo man is millionaire

70% of all successful igbos live outside the south east ......

How do you guys come about these funny statistics? Aren't you ashamed. Una go just pick random numbers and throw them around as you deem fit. Same igbo men we meet every day in swest? Chai!

FuckAllTheMODs:
See illiterate calling others illiterate.
Keep quiet joor, this statistic is flawed in every ramifications.
Did the DG and his group of statisticians take any sample from wide range...
BTW, it's a general survey(i.e it's not tribe specific).

On the average an Igbo man and Hausa man are richer than a Yoruba man.

Another aba made statistics.

obowo69:
Only a fool will believe these statistics

Osun poverty rate of 8%

Ode. Have you bothered researching about the cost of living of those places you posted? Most of you guys don't go to school. It's of no use arguing with you.

maestroferddi:
You are seeking a co-opt out...

Lebanon is small country in the Levant. Her citizens just like the enterprising Igbos have left a footprint in the sands of time.

The parents/forebears of both Steve Jobs and Slim Carlos Helu were Lebanese. They left Lebanon to emigrate to the US and Mexico respectively.

Nobody advances the lazy argument of their origin to question the fact that they became world changers....

Dey there dey form omo nile while the Igbos convert you to a gateman in your own house...

If you are smart, you should.be praying that the Igbos should not reparate their capital solely back to Igboland.

That's where you guys don't get it. You're enriching the locals. We don't mind selling lands to you guys to polish your bruised ego. But at the right time, the real owners will take back their properties while you return to your potopoto region empty handed like you left there.

strykr:
Which Igbos don't blame their leaders? The same Igbos that beat their leaders without fear, or the ones that frustrating rougue charlatans like Rochas and Ikpeazu. Please go and look for something else to talk not this one. I understand the Igbo point of view on how the Nigerian system frustrates accountability. You think you're wise, but you know nothing. Tribalism and etnnocentrism have blinded the eyes of most southwesterners.
I don't also understand you guys fixation with the Igbos desire for Biafra. If they say they want to leave, why is it causing so much pain to you guys. The Igbophobia and hate on this topic is too toxic. Simple question Op asked, everyone just wants to prove how Igbos would suffer. Igbo people, una dey try o.

No one blames the hausa-fulani for their inadequacies like you guys. Despite years of misrule, you guys will rather die supporting pdp than change parties. You don't hate Ikpeazu, he won convincingly just a year back. Okorocha was hated majorly because he dared igbos' love for conservatism.

Btw, yorubas don't have any issue with clamour for biafra. We just hate the hate-filled tactics you guys used and the irrational love for blaming others for una problems.

This is most likely a sign of tiredness probably due to not getting enough rest. But no one expects an igbo man to see a good thing in a "supposed enemy."

Redcrafton:
Lame!

May be you are new in the country...but everyone knows the Yorubas are averse to Nigeria splitting because they gain more than everyone other tribe.

So when Nigeria wanted independence were't your people going to London daily?

So because Kanu mention Osibanjo in his speech, you should attack his organisation?

When OPC was working to be separated from Nigeria...did the Igbos mock you?

This thread is not retired because they believe you have an edge to be a country of your own even when the forum is against separation...But other threads showing your region gains more than other regions...it is retired. What did this tell you?

You are suffering from self inflicted delusion. An average yoruba takes responsibility and does not blame his inadequacies on the North. We expend our energy on pressurizing our State governments to deliver not on mirages. That's why neither apc nor pdp can lay total claim over the politics of the region. But you igbos, despite gaining so much individually from Nigeria always see everyone except your leaders as your problem. You guys never bother to see the stick in your eyes but tend to focus on the flies hovering around other people's eyes. Shouting biafra upandan is just a comfortable way to hide una worldly acclaimed low self esteem. It's pretty sure you guys will still blame Nigeria once you finally get your dream biafra.

rdokoye:
Name a country that has ever developed through FDI?

Why are you so fixated on whoring yourself out to the highest bidder. If the SW is to develop, it'll be at the hands of the locals. Not McDonalds or Burger King.

There's nothing special about Lagos. Lagos as a city, personifies EVERYTHING that is wrong with Nigeria. It exists, as is, solely as a result of government failure, failure to leverage the full potential of the country. So spread development throughout the entire country. Open up ports across the entire Nigerian coast, intrench itself (government) in every area of the country. Most of the Igbo people in Lagos, didn't arrive yesterday. Many arrived before and just after the Nigerian Civil War. The Igbo presence in Lagos is as a result of the actions of non-Igbo people, not this ridiculous notion of sound economic policies - unless you think bottlenecking your own economy, is smart.

I don't know if you're aware of this, but Nigeria ranks fairly low, in the area of Ease of Business. So again, you're wrong. And there's nothing particular accommodating about SW people, if this forum is anything to go by.

Igbo people are easily the most accommodating in Nigeria. Do you know why? Because despite Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani presence in our lands, you NEVER hear of any incidents. Not so long ago, Yoruba and Hausa people were killing each other on the streets of Lagos - you call that accommodating?

Continue to dwell in wonderland. How many yorubas are in the east? You said yorubas aren't accommodating yet the larger potion of rich igbos were made in South West. Aren't you ashamed of your inconsistency? Stories abound on how unreceptive your people are to non-locals' success in your land, especially when it comes to purchase of Lands and properties. Do I begin to count the number of deaths that are recorded each year as a result of Igbo-hausa fights in the East? Even a non-conforming igbo person that practice Islam is seen as ndi hausa. Isn't that intolerance at its worst? What is even in the East that would make it a destination for any sound Yoruba?

If you don't know the importance of FDI to developing countries, then I can't help you.


You said Lagos personifies everything that's wrong with Nigeria, yeah. Yet, the state ranks above all states in most developmental indices. And yes, many igbo people living in Lagos arrived there 'yesterday.' If that's not the case, most of the Igbos' transport companies would have closed their offices. Lagos is a dreamland to most igbos. You can deny that fact all you want.

By government failure, are you including the failures of your leaders as well? Because it is habitual for igbos to never take responsibility. Best of luck bining that habit when you guys get your Biafra.

South West was by far the most developed region during regionalism. And yes it was all down to the ingenuity of the locals then, under a visionary leadership. I understand how much you guys overestimate the importance of your 4*4 shops littered all over Lagos. But when the time is right, and biafra becomes a reality, you guys will understand how badly your tribe depends on others to achieve any success.

Btw, you are yet to answer my question.

maestroferddi:
Don't mind the deluded minds...

You didn't even add the hospitality and tourism potentials of Owerri which can be harnessed to transform the city to the Las Vegas/Monaco/Paris of Africa.

We dare them to let the Igbos go.

In less than fifty years, the phrase African tiger will enter international lexicon...

Bla bla bla. How come you guys don't see these potentials all these while and return home? Do you need biafra to do that?

maestroferddi:
Why do most Americans migrate to New York and California?

Lagos is the commercial hub of Nigeria so it is natural than determine people like the Igbos would go there.

Besides, the Igbos are major stakeholders in Lagos having contributed immensely to what the state is today ....

Everything should not be defeatist tribalism and pettiness...

People go to America to chase the American dream. Americans do not sit down lazily antogonizing and begrudging the migrants who aririve their country of their successes/affluence.

They apply themselves to also make their own mark so that everybody is doing well for themselves....

Go figure..

Migration is a human thing. There are equally more yorubas in UK than Igbos and probably as many igbos as yoruba in USA. Migration is based on individual preferences. There are still millions of igbos at home, isn't that the case? Kill trade, and watch the larger part of igbos struggle for breath.

Igbos are able to achieve so much in Lagos because the governing policies and the location provide an enabling environment for any willing trader. And theres representation across Nigeria in the state because of this, it's not solely an igbo thing. Smart northerners are making it, same as smart individuals from other regions. Do you think Lagos would have such level of tolerance for non-local investors if it was based in the EAST? Best of luck answering that question when you guys get your biafra.

The question is how come there's so much thirst for foreign lands (with arguably lesser potentials compared to what's obtainable in the east according to comments on this thread) when you guys could easily develop your individual states by tapping into the "massive potentials" that have been highlighted so far in the thread? Is the FG to blame for that? In simple terms, you guys are accusing Nigeria as the reason why you guys prefer the potentials in Kano and Lagos to the potentials in Owerri and Aba. Is that not insanity?

The only difference between you guys and fulanis is just the level of education and exposure. An average igbo man is as intolerant, unaccommodating to his host and domineering as a Fulani man. If given the free will, you guys will prefer to rule over every community you find yourselves while your states remain inhabitable with conditions as bad as IDP camps. No wonder NK is able to attract so many hapless youths from your villages.

Funny how igboland looks so good potential-wise on this thread but remains largely shitty in reality despite over 21 years of singlehandedly choosing their leaders from the same political parties. How come despite all the potentials, most igbos would die to hustle in Lagos or Kano rather than stay home and harness these potentials? Is Nigeria the reason for that too?

Ibechris2:
Your hate is very glaring that it has drained u of common sense and reason that is why u can't verify this before reply. Mumu!

So e pain u?

How does a tribe being the richest be my problem? It seems you woke up from the wrong side of your bed. You guys just bring up so many false rhetorics that make one imagine how lowly una self esteem is really is as a tribe. Tueh!