Richirich713:


They will be no more cuz they will be in the lake of fire WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH.

The fact that they are still somewhere and someplace means they still exist.

Richirich713:
This below clearly shows ur views on what death is wrong.

"But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death[/b]Revelation 21:8 (ESV)

Does this mean evil people will suffer in the lake of fire(which is the 2nd death) [b]BUT DON'T EXIST BUT DO REALLY SUFFER.

Richirich713:


Again falsely assuming I share ur views on what death is, deaths refers to separation , get it?
. that's y ur points are making no sense wen u think I share ur views.

A particular poster on this thread expose ur fictional definition of death when she asks that can you apply this definition to other living things , you said no ? It shows something is fishy .

Death in the context of animals means cessation of life but in man it doesnt apply . Hahahahaha . Thanks very much for your time ,
Am happy that at least you know the meaning of death but decide to twist it . Animals are soul , spirit and body like you yet they cease to be alive when they die . ?

Richirich713:


Again falsely assuming I share ur views on what death is, deaths refers to separation , get it?
. that's y ur points are making no sense wen u think I share ur views.

A particular poster on this thread expose ur fictional definition of death when she asks that can you apply this definition to animals , you said no ? It shows something is fishy .

Death in the context of animals means cessation of life but in man it doesnt apply . Hahahahaha . Thanks very much for your time ,
Am happy that at least you know the meaning of death but decide to twist it . Animals are soul , spirit and body like you yet they cease to be alive when they die . ?

Richirich713:


U should be laughing at urself, cuz u just don'
A stone exists but does that mean it's alive or living? "ALIVE" DOES NOT MEAN TO EXIST NOR DOES "DEAD" MEAN NON-EXISTENCE..

1ST WE ARE NOT SMOKE.

2nly It's obvious james is not saying what u want him to say, namely that after death we no longer exist.

Ur arguments against me again don't make sense cuz u again ASSUMING DEATH MEANS TO CEASE TO EXIST. PROVE IT STOP ASSUMING.

Richirich713:


How can I address ur points wen u assumed in both points that death means non-existence.

U can't just assume, 1st prove from scripture death means that.

My whole 1st point was :

but instead of proving me wrong u all wen to passages wer u 1st assume, then make ur point based on ur assumptions.

See Confusion o ,

Ur point is soul never dies .. Its immortal .

Based on that , i show you two results of your thinking .

A) if you gat an immortal soul , and the soul is the real person . It means the real person called Jesus did not die , he is immortal ONLY his body died . Do you agree ?

If you disagree , that means the real person (soul) called Jesus Die . And that means soul dies like the body dies .

Then ur whole point crumble .

B) if soul is immortal , how could the messiah " pour his soul to death" ? Isaiah 53:12 , or did isaiah lied ?

Richirich713

Again wrong, jesus was really dead but HE STILL EXISTED.

Actually u are are the denying the scriptures by saying the scripture teaches that death mean non-existent.

Richirich713:


No he did die, I'm saying ur definition of what death is, is wrong.
No I'm saying he did die but UR DEFINITION is wrong. U say it means ceases to exist but the bible does not say Death means that.



1st u picking a translation and again think that ever time the bible says "death" it mean cease to exist and thinking this verse is saying jesus no longer existed.



Honesty ur arguments against me is making no sense cuz u already defined wat "death" means in ur mind, therefore every time u see the word "death" u assume it means non-existent then build ur argument on it as if I'm also assuming death means that.

Richirich713:


Yes he still existed during those 3 days cuz Death does not mean non-existence.

When we die our soul still exists.

Emusan:



The anti-type sacrificial lamb started the very day Adam's sinned by God Himself in the Garden of Eden.
For your information, The Word of God (which came to earth as the true type and was given the name Jesus Christ) has been in action from ages even before David was born. that's why Jesus is THE way..., and THE life no ONE comes to the Father without passing through Him.

Wow ! Wow ! Wow ! True type and anti - type theories . And David had made heaven before the TRUE type gave his life as a sacrifice to take away the sin of mankind ? Reference : john 1:29 .

"For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." Heb 10:14

Kindly check what you quote , " for by one offering " but Before that offering was made for sins , David made heaven ,aM i ryt ?

walemoney007:
are you telling me that alfa shekarau is not allah prophet?

there are many allah followers online , go and ask them if shekrau is Allah's prophet


And let me ask you too : where did King David go when he died ?

walemoney007:
why is alhaji shekarau fighting for allah



Why did muhammed fvcked aisha a 9years old girl?

Emusan
but I'm doing this for people to grab something.

Let me start by asking you, how do you understand the phrase INHERITED/ORIGINAL SIN as Christian believed?

Maybe we can start from there...

bible said : ' because of one man , ALL have sinned' - Romans 5:12 , it further describes it has been " SOLD under sin " says Roman 7:14 .

To release man from the grip of sin , bible further said : God " sent his son to be the atoning sacrifice for our sins" - 1joh 4:10

Yet David made heaven without the sacrifice made for his sin , right ?

malvisguy212:
oh, you problem is Jesus ? Alright. Answer my question.

malvisguy212:
you are not qualify to interprete the bible.let me ask you a question. Prior to the coming of Jesus christ ,Under the Mosaic Law, what were the Jews doing on the “Day of Atonement”(sin atonement) since 1513 B.C.E.?

Every sane human know that, for God to accept David sacrifice mean David sin were forgiven (by faith David offer sacrifice to God)

sacrifice indeed ? The blood of goats , I cant belive this is coming from you , haha ! David made heaven with the blood of sheep and goats ? Hahahahaha

but the now, the bible is very clear on this, Jesus has paid the final sacrifice once and for all.

Emusan:


Imaging I'm scared...you must be god to know that

For your question, King David is in heaven.

See public disgrace , David make heaven without Jesus !!!
Point 1 : Okay , Inherited Sin is so useless that it couldnt prevent David from making heaven . You prove that right !

Point 2 : Your answer further Make Jesus Death Useless: so David made heaven without Jesus dying for his inherited original sin ?

Emusan:


I reply you because I was the one who created the thread but if you truly want me to address your question.

Then you must repost it and ask in a mature way not as a kid.

njuwo:
My dad was in one church last sunday. After the preaching, the pastor announced, "If you are worshipping with us for the first time in this church you are welcome, please stand up cause you are so special to us.'' My dad stood up. The pastor added, ''The whole church will like to know your name." My dad said, ''My name is Alexander Akpe but you can just call me Alex. The congregation clapped. The pastor yelled, ''Praise thy Lord!''. The congregation answered, ''Halleluyah!. The pastor said to my dad, ''Mr Alex, do you have any prayer request you want the church to pray for you?''. ''Yes sir!'', My dad replied, ''The church should help me pray that God should promote my carpenter business in this church more than how he promoted it in my former church.'' The congregation shouted, ''Aaaaammmmmeeeeeeennnnn!''. The pastor said, ''Church, I want you to use the whole of your strength to pray for Brother Alex's carpenter business. Pray that God should promote his business in this church.'' The pastor started speaking in tongues, ''Mara bosha ri bi!''. Thus, says the Lord, listen, your business shall sell in this church more than where you are coming from a million times.'' The congregation shouted, ''Aaammeeeeeennnn!!!''. The pastor said, ''Mr Alex, open your eyes, your prayer has been answered! You left your former church because the business was not selling very well, abi?''. ''Yes Pastor! Like I said before, I am a carpenter and I deal on coffin selling. Initially, my business was selling fine in my former church because they were patronising me. As the number of death kept increasing in the church, my business was growing because they were buying all the coffins from me. But after some time, there was a deliverance service in the church and members stopped dying. It really affected my business. That was why I had to leave the church to search for greener pasture here. The congregation screamed in surprise, ''Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!''. The pastor screamed, ''Mr Alex, it will not work for you here! You are not welcome here. I bind you, I rebuke you. Get out of our church!.''

Nuellah02:
Nice.. Making me think of life after death.

krattoss:
this Is the stupidest analogy I ve come across

juligon:

..lol am i lying they wrote HE? ..even in all the version..

The holyspirit is omnipotent ...see let me give u a little story... if JESUS was given birth by joseph he would have been a sinner from birth like every man..but God still wnted him to save mankind in a man's form.... and dts why the spirit had to come... the spirit is omnipotent and as all power to do anything..what he did was not to have sex like u all think he did... He overshadow mary with his power and jesus came forth ....it is not a big deal to the holyspirit neither a difficult tin to do .. everything was made by the word of God ....does it means that the word of God was doing dem literally with hands?

juligon:
...only kjv made a misplacement of words...am very sure they dont really meant it the way u are tlking it.

:Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
NIV:But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
AMP:But when He, the Spirit of Truth (the Truth-giving Spirit) comes, He will guide you into all the Truth (the whole, full Truth). For He will not speak His own message [on His own authority]; but He will tell whatever He hears [from the Father; He will give the message that has been given to Him],

juligon:
...only kjv made a misplacement of words...am very sure they dont really meant it the way u are tlking it.

:Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
NIV:But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
AMP:But when He, the Spirit of Truth (the Truth-giving Spirit) comes, He will guide you into all the Truth (the whole, full Truth). For He will not speak His own message [on His own authority]; but He will tell whatever He hears [from the Father; He will give the message that has been given to Him],

juligon:
...only kjv made a misplacement of words...am very sure they dont really meant it the way u are tlking it.

:Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
NIV:But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
AMP:But when He, the Spirit of Truth (the Truth-giving Spirit) comes, He will guide you into all the Truth (the whole, full Truth). For He will not speak His own message [on His own authority]; but He will tell whatever He hears [from the Father; He will give the message that has been given to Him], and He will announce and declare to you the

juligon:
....Ehya u not a believer... u are one of the islam brothers that takes the bible and read just to argue ...they thought its a novel... brother.. u cannt tlk one out of it by saying sugar is not swit...when he as already tasted of it.

trapQ:
Mizjanet

JESUS went to hell to set the captives free. The captives included all those who died ignorant of the gospel before christ came. The gates of hell could not prevail against him.

trapQ:
Op that story isn't a mere fallacy, it was very real. And why did you have twist your write-up to a rather negative side?

The bible makes it clear that hell is beneath the earth, and this story goes in line with it because the temperature that was experienced there is greater than that of the sun. Read more articles concerning this, no one is spreading heresies here.

trapQ:
Cc @ koice Mizjanet Davien

You can refute this endlessly but heaven and hell are still real. A word is enough for the wise

Image123:


And you'll go to hell when you die if you don't repent. Take note.