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Olu317:
Well if you believe it then know it is the truth.Although some people will come up with their own version about Oyo's false accounts. But fact is that Olugbon, Aresa , onikoyi and four others were born by Yeyesuse in Igbo Iwara ife.

Adelogbon founded Igbon....There was a saying in the ancient time,
" Olugbon n gbebo, yeye re n gba pese" Ba esua ,Oroloto, Aresa, baba okunoye, Aroni Ako, Olukoyi Omo Eru Ofa."

Let their descendants add inputs to their ancestors history. It is definite,they are here online.

I am pretty curious about how Esu is described as ogiri Oko ( wall of Oko) in his oriki

TAO11:
I’m sorry to let you know that I know that you made it up. And why are you lying?

Saying you heard that from Òró in “Kwara” is another claim (a false one for that matter) which you also did not provide a single shred of evidence for.

Someone who lived at some point in “Òró” in “Kwara” have also confirmed that there is no such thing.


Lastly, the YouTuber below was at “Òró” town and he or she has the information on the historical origins of Òró town to share with you — from timestamp 1:11.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBvYL3tBqZs

Cheers.

Thanks for providing insight on this...if you read why I open this thread you will notice I am just here to unlearn and learn...I am not assertive on that...I just made mention of that (in example) while responding to a statement made by someone ...I am grateful to you shedding light...thanks

Ezniteadin:
@Poster, Do you know if Gbile Akanni was also a member of Deeper Life?

so, Tunde Bakare also left Deeper Life, No wonder,

Suprise! Where did Olukoya get his fire prayers since most deeper life are outwardly quiet in Prayer and unenergetic.

I am so curious, you seems to know know them by thier names. Is Pastor Kumuyi your Father?

Gbile is a baptist and remains a baptist

r4bbit:
I did my junior secondary at Òró grammar school.
yet I'v never heard anything like that.

Okay

Olu317:
What Professor Akintoye wrote is not correct as regard certain information on Iléifẹ history. Infact the Ọ̀bà history being circulated is absolutely false as it concerns ancient era.

The founder of Ọ̀bà,will shock to your bone that this city was founded by Ora ifẹ descendants. Verifying their most revered traditional ancestors pitch this tradition of ọ̀bà people to Obálúfọn.The same Ọ̀bálufọn is a paternal descendant of Ora.

You see, there are flaws in many of the oral accounts of Yoruba kingdoms simply because, everyone want association with Odùduwa dynasty. Unfortunately,this is partially wrong even if there are intermarriages between the principal lineages that came to be ifẹ groups, yet distinction still exists.

The dynasty being referred as pre Odùduwa era was not a unified system but a chosen rotational system which is rotated among the thirteen groups. These same thirteen groups came out from four set up even lesser than four if we probe further but not one source.

In proper set up, Odùduwa ancestors is a distinct lineage from Ora mfẹ. Infact the name odùduwa is a copied or reincarnated one from the heavenly odùduwa in Ifa corpus who was without human birth that descended via chain-ẹ̀wọ̀n-Òogún. The proper place of Odùduwa ancestors land is called Obìrì in Owàra or Iwàra or Iwàran
Aptly posits as Owàragún or Iwàragun or IwàraÒogún. The pioneer Òogún, a mighty spirtual warrior established the household of Odùduw. in ancient Iléifẹ.

Ifá corpus mentioned this city as the city where overall king will come from when a particular being Orúnmìlà birthed his children who were eight in numbers and gave them names accordingly.

So putting Ọ̀bà affront of Yorùba history is a fabrication to suit some quarters,in just the manner that nearly all Ekitis kings claims Odùduwa paternal ancestry which is basically false because many of these Baalẹ turned kings are Oramfẹ paternal descendants and odùduwa families members maternal descendants.

In Ifá corpus, Éjìgbomẹ̀kun is a the major market being known and this market is linked to ancient Iléifẹ and Ọ̀bà is no where to be found among the earliest cities among the eight cities founded by Orúnmìlà descendants.


Cheers

Thanks for this information. Why is it that the pre Odùduwà history is so much shrouded in secrecy? Is it that no one is bold enough let out the cat? At least there were rulers before Odùduwà...who were these rulers? Odùduwà has a father...what was his name?

TAO11:
Smh!

Anyway, now you’ve made a claim.

Is there any sort of evidence for this claim of yours?

Any evidence from the “Òró” people of “Kwara” where their oral traditions state that they are from “Delta”?

Of course there is no such thing, I’m only forcing you to wake up and see that you’re making stuffs up.

Cheers

I didn't make this up at all. I heard it from them.

TAO11:
Which Yoruba town in Yorubaland is of “Delta” origin?

I am curious.

Thanks.

Oro in Kwara State

RedboneSmith:
Any sort of evidence for this claim that Oko and Ọ̀bà in Anambra are of Yoruba origin? The slightest bit of evidence other than name similarity would suffice.

Also, what does Ọ̀bà mean in Yoruba?

We are talking about the pre Odùduwà Yorubas history here. Like I said, research is on going...Ghost DNA could be of great help...this is not claiming any ethnic superiority...After all there is a fairly big town in Yoruba land that is of Delta origin and they proudly call themselves Yorubas

Olu317:
Oba, Oko,Oru, Oshimili , Ika etc do not have historical relationship with Yorubas same names settlement.

Ifaodu corpus talks about Yorubas version which are not same , even Afa of the Igbos of Eastern region's version is not same. Kolanut divination may be, three lobes, four lobes, eight lobes among Yorubas still remain different when doing the lotcast or divination.

Ika is also an Odu in ifa corpus which is among the first set of 16 odus that came to earth when Orunmila ascended to heaven in Yoruba cosmology. There is historical account to the reason of how the first became the last and the last became the last among the 16 odu.

So, positing that some places are Older than Yoruba settlement is a bit controversial as far as some information is concerned but one cannot take away some views if well verified.

I quite understand...the scientific (archaeological) evidence of oldest human activities of what is now known as Yoruba land is the skull found in Iho Eleru...some scholars believe that the migration to Ifẹ̀ bowl started from Ọba ( in Ondo State)...Prof Akintoye's book supports this view...s o there were many pre Odùduwà's Ilẹ̀ Ifè migrations at the formation of èlús scattered around the Ifẹ̀ bowl... what could have attracted people toward the bowl may be the richness of the land

Olu317:
Yes, Farooq is linked to Ibariba but not Ibariba are linked to Yorùbas. The same way Yorùbas have genetically link with white and Africans does not mean all white ordarkskins are Yorubas.

The Yorùbas you find in Ibariba were of different eras. There was a time when Elempe-Tapa-Nupe attack old Ọyọ́ and the Ọlọ́yọ́ of that era moved for safety with his people which led to dispersion. So finding Yorùbas within Ibariba enclave is the same as finding Yorùbas of Olukumi among Ìgbò speaking people in Aniocha environment.

Living in Ibariba land is no big deal. Infact, in around early 1800s Ojo Aburumaku , a descendants of Gaa went to Ilọ́rin to capture Afọnjà but he could not captured him because he was betrayed by the cowarriors who did not support the present Ọlọ́yọ́ at that time whose predecessor sent Afọnjà to attack a community under Iléifẹ which Afọnjà which was wrong and led to the fall of Ọyọ́ land.

After Ojo Aburumàkú saw this betrayal, he relocated to Ibariba land and lived there till he passed on. Beside, many Yorùbas moved to Ibariba land also apart from war because of the cordial relationship Yorùbas had with Ibariba people even intermarriages is known among them.

Many of these people claiming Ọyọ́ in Ibaribas are mostly, Alara descendants Aresa's, Ikoyi's,Igbọ̀n's Oje's etc. So, there is no doubt about Yorùbas in different places inclusive Ibariba.

Oko and Oba in Anambra are of pre Odùduwà Yorùbá origin...though further research still ongoing. There people of Yorùba origin in Sudan through the trade between Sudan and Ejigbomekun market in Ile Ife.

I don't understand the loserrrs still crying about Tinubu's primary 6 certificate. I don't even know where my primary 6 certificate is. If it's primary 6 certificate you want to rule you and your family, that's your headache which is none of my business. What I'm championing is a first class graduate of business administration and accounting from Chicago university.

But you sure know your classmates by name. You should still be able to mention a few names.

Tinubu and his handlers can still go the primary school he attended and take a snap shot of the school register. My dad finished primary in 1954 and the school he went to somewhere in a rural area of Kwara still maintain register for all the pupils that have passed through it...how much more a school in Lagos. It is all about integrity

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uchkochi:
THE POWER OF A NAME.

Do you know that your name is the first prophecy over your life. Names have influence over a person's life that even God cannot break until it is changed. Jacob means TRICKSTER OR SUPPLANTER, so Jacob lived almost his entire life, looting, cheating, deceiving. Even though he was destined to be great, his name hindered him. But not until his name was changed to ISRAEL, meaning the PRINCE OF GOD, he may never have fulfilled his purpose.GENESIS 32:24-32. What is the meaning of your name? surname inclusive. If it is not good, please change it or modify it. When you are given a name that is not good, as people begin to call you that name, they are prophesying the meaning of that name over your life.

For Abraham and Sarah to fulfil destiny their names needed to be changed from ABRAM AND SARAI TO ABRAHAM AND SARAH. Words are powerful, when someone calls your name, the person is not just calling a name but saying a word by invoking the meaning of your name to align with your personality. It is time to change bad names to good names. Even the bible says a good name is better than riches. Adam named everything and they took after their names. It is time to find the meaning of your name. It is easier to be delivered when you have a good name and experiencing a bad thing THAN when you have a bad name. Your name must be changed today. I see things turning around for your good in Jesus precious name. Receive grace and wisdom to do so in Jesus precious name.

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Why was Jabez's name not changed if examples you cited above are anything to go by?

seanwilliam:
Uk don enter am.
Prime minister woman
Queens woman

Not the first time...Magret Thatcher was too

Propaganda won't cut it this time around. People are wiser...

Does religion matter? No need for all these recent congratulations messages to Kukah and Opkaleke...because religion does not matter... God is wonderful...Kukah and Tinubu and Segun Odegbami are age mates...

Nigeria...this is your time

Will the commission also prosecute underage voters and those who registered them?

Great

...and kero direct scheme of Jonathan administration was used as a tool to fight him by the people in this current administration when the scheme forced the price to 50 naira per litre.

https://dailytrust.com/nnpccapital-oil-kero-direct-scheme-to-distribute-kerosene-in-north

Congratulations oga Tunji Disu. A police man with track record.

He took over from the disgraced supercop, Kyari...and very close to retirement. This feat is better than that owambe Kuje landlord frolicking with people of questionable wealth in aṣọ- ẹbí

Working now

See what they have reduced governance to.

He said “The truth is that the minorities will have their say while the majorities will always have their way. If you know the configuration of the national assembly and the senate, those who spoke today are the minority of minorities”.

odinaccess:
Needs serious flogging

Forced confession

AGO is between 800 and 850/litre so it may not be an exergeration

mikykinz:
Hello guys
I got a hold of this fruit
I don't know the name
Wanted to know it health benefits
It was gotten from ore in lagos( no mind my spellings biko)

Bitter melon...it has put my sugar level in check since I started using it

There is nothing like generational curses. It's just learned patterns hapchances...I guess generational curses only work on Africans alone.

Wèrè olóṣèlú

Totilopussylick:
They would laterally closed their mouths

They won't...they have this uncouth way of explaining things to the gullibles

Lol

TinubuAdvocate1:
Nigerians are very gullible!

Overly gullible...

Desperation leads to gullibility