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Charmingrascal:
Fact, Nigeria prison system makes you hardened.
They call it correctional centre but it won't correct you it will rather make you more brutal and hardened.
Ordinary Nigeria Police cell can turn one to "badoo".

All prison systems around the world make a criminal more hardened.

If they were not hardened at first they won't be in prison.

Sizzorkay:
Chief, i never said educated people can not become terrorists or sympathizers. jesus, I'm talking about recruitment, are you telling me those boko guys whose bodies we've seen are all Rhodes scholars?
We've seen a captured BH dude who claimed he was a butcher but joined them when they offered him money because he live in poverty, that's one simple example, so to say poverty isn't part of the tools, is beyond ignorance.
It's never a one size fit all, poverty alone isn't a factor, but it matters, there are other reasons as well.
Moving on.

And you believe because he was poor that is why he joined bokoharam.

Where is he guarantee his life and steady pay, cutting meats or fighting in a war that will take his life after 1 week.

Sizzorkay:
US is a big country, and the police actually shows up when you call them, I live in that same US for the past 20yrs, so no need to tell me about it.
But, i don't see terrorists running around the US claiming territory, and every violent group in America is definitely under 24hrs surveillance .
How come you don't have terrorists in better developed countries? maybe you can enlighten us as to why that is.
Never mind the fact that they have better police force, better and stronger institutions, a functioning judicial system, and police that actually patrol 24/7, rain or snow.
And over here, kids as young as 11 can still be out at 2am without any harm coming to them, people actually live in Apts with their bedroom windows a few feet from the sidewalk without a 15 foot fence surrounding their property.
It doesn't mean there aren't criminals here, again, duh, point is their system actually functions better than ours
Tell me, would you be able to sleep at night if you have no fence around your home in Nigeria? . Most won't, unless you live in a face me and face you, with tons of neighbors in same building.
No need for comparison, my point is, tackling poverty and joblessness has a direct impact on security. This is well known.
How many of those computer geek terrorists did you see running around with Ak47s? It's the poor that constitute the majority of their foot soldiers, that's my point.

You really think a poor and hungry person will carry weapon and tell himself he wants to go join bokoharam, where he is not even guaranteed of a pay talkless of his life. Is that not from fry pan to fire

With your logic, every poor person would have join an extremist group to cure their hunger.

People join extreme groups because of ideas, peer pressure and adventures not because of poverty.

You think all the crisis in Nigeria is because of poverty, it has nothing to do with poverty or hunger but ideas. Most of the crisis in Nigeria has to do with agitations, herdermen and farmers, inter ethnic clashes.

Greedy people who want cash are robbing and doing kidnapping, even many get rich from it but continue the dangerous act.

Sizzorkay:
So in your expert opinion, there is no direct correlation between poverty and the ability of extremist groups to recruit? okay

It has no correlation.

IDEALISM make people join extremists groups, not poverty.

Do you think they are paid to go kill.

People want to belong, preach an idea and tell them they are fighting for a cause and you will see people join in droves.

Are IPOB members paid? Are bokoharam members paid?

Just think about that for a minute.

Didn't you see people from many developed countries going to Syria to join isis or al Qaeda.

The Nigerian guy that almost blow up a plane in the United states was from a well to do family here in Nigeria

Sizzorkay:
And where did i ever said that was the only thing needed to end terrorism? And who told you this only applies to terrorism alone.
An uneducated, jobless, hungry soul is a recruitment pool for trouble makers. You mean you missed all that?
If people feel neglected, zero govt presence in lots of places, no social safety nets, no support, no loans to start a business, no job training centers, etc.
And you don't understand the security threats the lack of these facilities pose to any country? smh.
why am i even responding to this.

Anyone can be recruited by any group.

Many cultists are educated, some are not hungry but they were still recruited into cult to cause havoc.

When people like you think that loans to start biz, social safety etc will help in reducing terrorism, i laugh.

US has all these but lot of cities are still unsafe....have you checked their crime statistics, you will be suprised by the number of violent crimes that occurs in that country daily.

Loan apps can't have access to your information and can't deduct money from your bank accounts

Sizzorkay:
The solution varies. they can start by gathering intel in the area before they act. Put the leaders there on govt parole and turn them into informants.
talk to those in leadership positions in the area and they might point you in the right direction.
enticing people work. trying to subjugate people doesn't.
burning down things that are important to the people is to make them see you as the devil.
increase security presence in the area etc. I'm no expert, but some things are just common sense. we've seen multiple cops get shot in America, the police didn't burn down the whole neighborhood.
unleashing aggression on those who aren't responsible is unprofessionalism.
but above all, job creation and education is key.
Imagine Nigeria as a country, where a baby can be born, live up to 90yrs and die, without ever having its existence on record with the govt, no interaction, nothing. That's not good.
Nigeria need databases upon databases lol, alas we seem to not believe in record keeping or registering births and deaths. Ppl won't care about a country that provides them with nothing, not even security.
zero quality of life in that country. ppl pee and sheet wherever they want, leave dead bodies on the side of the road for weeks, dump trash wherever, these are things that affect people's quality of life m and we seem to not care about it.
we sure have a long way to go

People think job creation and education is the key to end security.

Fyi, some boko haram members are educated, some studied chemistry, engineering, infact some are programmers but guess what, they are all using their skills to make bombs, hack government networks and create specialised cars for attack against the military.

EricBraven:
The attention of the Defence Headquarters is drawn to numerous publications in the media and other online blogs reporting massive killing and destruction of houses and other property by the military in Konshisha LGA of Benue State. The Defence Headquarters which has oversight responsibility for Operation WHIRL STROKE deployed to maintain peace in Benue, Nasarawa and Taraba States, has deemed it necessary to refute these spurious allegations and put the records straight.

There have been incessant cases of communal clashes in recent times between the people of Konshisha and Oju over boundary demarcation. As part of efforts to resolve the crisis, the Benue State Government held series of meetings with stakeholders from both local governments with a view to arriving at amicable solution to the problem. Appreciable progress has been made and a final date fixed for all stakeholders to meet in the disputed areas to fully demarcate the boundary so that peace could reign. Trouble however started on the eve of the final meeting during Easter holiday, with reports that fresh fighting has broken out in the area.

All along, 72 Special Forces Battalion has troops deployed on the Oju side of the boundary and troops of the Battalion were on their way to replenish their colleagues on 5 April 2021, when they were attacked by armed bandits at Bonta in Konshisha. The troops who were under command of a Captain were seized at a checkpoint mounted by the so called “Bonta Boys” and taken into Konshisha forest where they were all brutally murdered. Not satisfied with killing the soldiers, the bandits proceeded to burn all the eleven soldiers and their officer beyond recognition while their weapons and ammunition were carted away. Military reinforcements were dispatched to Bonta the following morning. Unfortunately, the reinforcement also came under attack from close to 500 armed youths who by this time had fully occupied Bonta. The sheer number of youths involved in the attacks suggests that the armed bandits cannot be from Bonta alone, but were joined by bandits from other parts of Konshisha LGA. The military repelled the attack after more than 4 hours of intense fighting during which military helicopter provided close air support to ground troops. Ten armed bandits were killed during the fight with the rifle of one of the Killed in action soldiers recovered from the bandits who fell casualty during the exchange of fire.

The Defence Headquarters wish to put it on record that apart from this initial 10 bandits, there are no other civilian casualties recorded in any part of Konshisha till date. We therefore challenge anybody from Konshisha to present to the public the 200, 70 or 30 dead bodies of innocent persons, male, female or children killed by troops in Konshisha. There was never a massacre as being touted by some mischief makers.

The remnants of the armed bandits that escaped from Bonta withdrew into neighbouring villages where they kept on attacking troops as they continued with the search operation through Bonta into other parts of Konshisha. Knowing the implications of killing troops in cold blood, most of the villagers fled their homes which were then occupied by armed bandits who kept firing at troops from the settlements as they advanced into Konshisha. Troops repelled the attacks and destroyed the houses and other buildings which the criminals used as hideout for the attacks. The use of abandoned settlements by armed bandits to attack troops is popular with insurgents. The aim is to draw military fire into the dwellings and then turn round to blame soldiers for the destruction. This is common guerilla tactics armed bandit designed to whip up public sentiment against security forces and this is what played out in Konshisha. This accounts for some of the burnt houses being reported in the press. Some of the phones of the dead soldiers were also tracked to some of the settlements. We should therefore blame the armed bandits for the destruction since they used these settlements as hideout for attacks. It will be wrong to blame soldiers who are in Konshisha on legitimate duties when some of them were murdered in cold blood. Some of the buildings being paraded today were actually burnt during earlier communal clashes between Konshisha and Oju, all of which the sponsors of the mayhem are now blaming on the military.

Finally, the Defence Headquarters wishes to state that soldiers deployed to Konshisha displayed commendable restraints by adhering to the rules of engagement in the face of unprovoked attacks and therefore deserve accolades. In addition to the return of all carted away weapons, the local leaders of Konshisha must bring the main actors responsible for the mayhem to security forces to face justice. They must also surrender all other weapons in their possession. The military will not tolerate the jungle justice attitude and dastardly acts leading to the gruesome murder of patriotic soldiers on legitimate duty to keep the peace. We look forward to working with the Benue State Government in its promise to support security forces in fishing out those fomenting trouble in Konshisha. Once again, there is no massacre in Konshisha and the stories making the rounds are fabricated by bandits and their sponsors to smear the military after murdering troops in cold blood.

ONYEMA NWACHUKWU

Brigadier General

Acting Director Defence Information

9 April 2021

Daily reports like this are what the army need to produce daily to counter fake news

Rossikki:
Those are genuine resorts you dumb, ill-exposed illiterate.

The pictures below are of America and Europe, so what is your point? Every country has poor areas and poor folk.

Ode.


USA

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8nGYkEBDjX8/maxresdefault.jpg

London
https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02603/getty_2603040b.jpg
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10148597/Lets-stop-pretending-that-a-shanty-town-in-London-is-a-big-surprise.html

Those pictures of slums you posted in the United states

Guess who live there? BLACKS.

Between when did resorts became the yardstick for development??

Rossikki:
Jamaica is like Heaven on Earth.

You CLEARLY have not been to Jamaica.


Kingston, Jamaican capital.
https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/16/b7/13/02/an-aerial-view-of-the.jpg

https://marriottnews.brightspotcdn.com/87/1c/3aade8a942d6a2d52d99f0422dce/alberca-familiar.jpg

https://www.fodors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/10_BestAllInclusiveJamaica__JewelRunawayBayBeachAndGolfResort_Aerial-Waterpark-2.jpg

Yeah. Jamaica is heavy on earth with nicely photoshopped images of resorts gotten from the internet

The pictures below are of Kingston

Rossikki:
I HAVE. I enjoy myself in Jamaica far more than I do when I visit the USA or UK.

I will visit Trinidad too one day, hopefully.

You should TRY visiting some of those ''so-called developed black countries'' instead of relying on your colonised, white-obsessed dunderhead to feed you negativity before even trying.

Who do you think you are deceiving.

You should have immigrated to Jamaica permanently and enjoy their grandiose " development"

You would have compared those so called developed black countries with developed white countries.

Everything was invented in Egypt in 1099 ADC

If we say some people are born stupid, they will tell us we have inferiority complex.


What is the new definition of stupid?
The definition is the OP.

Rossikki:
Dumbo. Black Americans DID build America. And if you have a city to build in Nigeria, (such as Eko Atlantic, which you've likely never heard of) there will be no shortage of Nigerian engineers at your disposal, if you can pay them.

If black Americans built America, why are they still poor?

Are they the ones that built the railways, the skyscrapers, the banking systems, the road networks, telecommunications networks and other infrastructures?

Boy, you dont know what you are writing about.

On Eko Atlantic, the lebanese are the ones building it not Nigerians.

Nigerians can't even build their railway systems or road networks but then built Dubai....you must be suffering from iron deficiency.

jpphilips:
If you cant read, don't quote my post again,
"Mostly Saudis" means what? only Saudis were the foreign fighters? are you Ok??
Did I say Tora bora was in Pakistan or Afghanistan?

Its pointless engaging you on where Osama was after 9/11.

I didn't invite you to comment on my initial post.

Al Quada was an only Arab force during the Afghan Russian war that comprises of different nationalities from the arab world.

The fighters weren't mostly Saudis. When Osama founded the group is number 2 man was an Egyptian arab, presently, he is leader of Al Qaeda and number 3 man Abdullah Yusuf Azzam was a Pakistani/Jordanian, one of the most popular leader of the group Abu Ubaidah al-Banshiri was a former Egyptian policeman another top commander Saif al-Adel was a former Egyptian colonel, another top commander Nasir al-Wuhayshi was from Yemen, another top commander Qasim al-Raymi was from Yemen, this is just to give you a clue of their top ranking commanders talkless of their common fighters.

Please, anytime you see any of my write up about any event, just ignore it, i don't need your comment.

You are intellectually shallow.

have a good day.

jpphilips:
The foreign fighters that assisted the Mujahedeen from the Arab world mostly Saudi became Al-Qaeda, the Local Mujahidin fighters became the Taliban, stop confusing yourself.
Till US struck Afghanistan, Al-Qaida maintained a solid headquarters at Tora bora cave complex, it was the battle of Tora Bora that dismantled it.
Infact, Osama spent nearly a year there after 9/11 before coming to Africa then Pakistan according to US intel.

The foreign fighters that assisted the majahedeen were made up of different arab nationalities.Infact, the chechens, Pakistanis volunteers for al Qaeda all fought against the Russians. Osama was just for cash and training. Al Qaeda bases and training camps have all been in Pakistan from day 1.

And Osama didn't leave in Africa after 9/11

Osama lived in Sudan from 1992 -1996,, in 1996, he left for Afghanistan.

Nigerian engineers built Dubai but can't build their own country.

You can't give what you dont have.

Pls stop the lies.

Black Americans will say, blacks built Americans now they are telling Nigerians, they built Dubai.

Covert1:
Closest accurate narrative of the history. Apparently we are all now accepting the US has lost the war and now talking with their enemies Everything about Afghanistan and the Taliban screams bad news and this is the organization boko haram is modeled after. I have advocated for over a year now to start talking to moderate elements of boko haram and then cut off the head of remaining belligerents with every available banned incendiary else we might be in a forever war. We gotta have an exit strategy to end this war not postponing the inevitable. Hit them so hard the moderate elements within and their foreign backers come to the table.

I would have prefer the Russian method during the Russia Chechnya war, Putin decided to use moderate elements like Akhmad Kadyrov, the Russian government sponsored kadyrov and his fighters, and they were able to win the war against Yandarbiyev group. the kadyrov side got all the spoils of the war, but the advantage the Chechen had was that the region was an autonomous region under the Russian federation.

I think your method can work, if the Nigeria government can find a more moderate group, sponsor them and make them fight against bokoharam and others, it will be a win win for everyone but the problem is if Nigeria government betray them after the war, these people can carry arms and create another full blow war.

adecz:
Your racist, jaundiced disposition
lacks the understanding or
the meaning of mass shooting or
killings.


Park well.

Interesting.

Today i learnt how to difuse a land mine....funny enough a trained Giant African rat can also detect landmines if exposed to TNT.

jpphilips:
Taliban is difficult to defeat not because of some celestial capabilities they possess, but because of the rough terrain and who they are, the Mujahedeen that later Morphed to Taliban / Al-Qaida were tribes men who occupied 3/4th of the Afghan population & mountainous terrains, so imagine a war you want to defeat two major Ethinc groups in Nigeria in an asymmetric warfare, it is gonna be difficult & its gonna take a long time.
The only way to defeat the Taliban will be to declare war on the whole country.

After the Russian Afghan war, the country was controlled by different warlords who carved parts for themselves to make money, they killed people and turned Afghans into slaves, the Mujahedeen who were former fighters in the war, saw the atrocities of the warlords and decided to create the taliban movement to bring back peace and human rights to Afghanistan. The taliban movement was headed by Mawlawi Abdul Samad and Amir and Mullah Omar who was the commander,( all Afghanis)they cleared the country of warlords and then gained political power to form the Taliban regime of Afghanistan. The Taliban movement was only interested in Affairs of Afghanistan and not in any outside affairs, their main goal was to bring peace to Afghanistan and to foster international relations with the US through the oil company UNOCAL.

Al Qaeda on the other hands are different from the talibans, Al Quada was an all-Arab camp created in Jaji in 1986, Al Qaeda comprises of only Arabs with their leader Osama Bin laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri( Arabs). Osama was the medium of training and sponsorships of arab college students who were willing to fight the Russians in Afghanistan, also he was willing to internationalize the struggle against the Russians and take it as far as Philippines, Al quada is like an Arab legion that can defend Muslim causes everywhere. So your notion that Al Qaeda are Afghanistan tribes is wrong.

Talibans are a nationalist movement and only Afghans could join, it was created for the survival of the Afghans people while Al Qaeda is an Arab group.

The United states lost the war not because of the terrains but because of the Taliban unity among themselves, many of the Taliban forces were experienced fighters who fought during the Afghan Russian war and also because muslims from around the world sent fighters to fight a muslim cause, the united states were fighting against different groups...very hard to win that type of war.

adecz:
➡Black American crimes are
poverty driven crimes.

➡But you don't see them carrying out
mass shootings just for the hell of it.

➡Of the two, which is a bigger crime?

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1) So poverty is a license to rob and kill people.
2) black people commit more mass shootings than whites, that is because most black mass shootings are against other blacks, the murder rates by black people is higher than any other group

[quote author=Psalms11 post=100293163][/quote]So you wasted all these computing power to gain 14 dollars.

What sort of bad investment is this.

You think mining bitcoin with laptop will make people rich..you want to spoil their laptops....stop selling fake dreams,

Black Americans are cancers to the world. After they will blame white supremacy, racism and white people for their lack of progress.

Valkrie:
Bros we are discussing about terrorist here who kill in the name of some God....and non of these groups you mentioned are terrorists killing people aimlessly in the name of God...!!

But they kill people....must you kill in the name of God to be considered a terrorists??

For what i know, all terrorists pray to God before going out to carry out terrorist act.

TMKsouth:
4. It's monochrome if it dictates only long and covered forms of those attire.

3. Western culture encroached on all continents of the world through violence and racist economic hegemony.

2. People in SA villages may shop in local markets but this guy stays in the city, and cities shouldn't be hostile to rural practices.

1. Indeed everyone prefers the freshest produce, but in SA malls dominate. It's for this reason they shouldn't be allowed to be elitist and anti-African.

So this guy stays in the city but acts like a villager.

I believe he must be going to work, the church half naked.

Western civilization gave birth to many modernism and i believe we should be grateful for that.

The guy is just an attention seeker, when you are in rome act like the romans.

TMKsouth:
In SA we shop in malls and not markets, and who can communicate with a cellphone nowadays?

Western culture has encroached on African societies so much people have no choice than to conform. But where people can help it they should be able to live life the way they want. I don't know why you're advocating for a monochrome world where everyone is the same, that's such a boring and oppressive life.

I rather shop in markets where i can get fresh food and direct from the farm produce.

You will agree with me that people who lives in the villages of south Africa do not know about malls.

Western culture was able to encroach on African societies because it was not advanced.

The world isn't monochrome, lot of Africans wear African style of dressing, they don't go naked.

The new lottery.

TMKsouth:
Our cultures are constantly changing to suit modern life and it is most evident in how we have modified our traditional attire, like in the photos below.

But let's respect those who enjoy a simpler form of life. Why should we always seek to imposed our own way of thinking on others. The whites impose their ideas through the barrel of the gun and today you are doing it through humiliation.

Those that want simpler form of life should also be able to respect others too

You cant use western phones or have an Instagram, twitter account, visit the mall and then claim you want a simpler form of life.

I have never head about a villager that know about the mall, use a good camara phone, have Instagram account or want to live luxurious way of life.

The main actor of the gods must be crazy should be a reference point to those that want a simpler way of life