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princemillla:
P0180


P1336
P0325

AM I IN SERIOUS TROUBLE


Thank you bro, as its now. It seems nothing is working in my fuel thank perhaps current is not getting there as my fuel gauge refuse to read. Am going to have it remove tomorrow morning. Is that the main headache here Bro?

P1336 NISSAN - Crankshaft Position Sensor

Possible causes
- Faulty Crankshaft Position Sensor
- Crankshaft Position Sensor harness is open or shorted
- Crankshaft Position Sensor circuit poor electrical connection
- Signal plate may be damage
- Starter motor may be faulty
- Starting system circuit
- Dead or weak battery

Tech notes
Sometimes and in some models, low battery voltage or a weak starter can can trigger a Crankshaft Position Sensor code. Before replacing any parts, recharge or replaced battery.

When is the code detected?
- The crankshaft position sensor (POS) signal is not detected by the ECM during the first few seconds of engine cranking
- The proper pulse signal from the crankshaft position sens

Possible symptoms
- Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)
- Lack/Loss of Power
- Engine Stall
- Engine difficult to start

P1336 Nissan Description

The Crankshaft Position Sensor (CKP) also known as the crank position sensor is an electronic device used in an engine to record the rate at which the crankshaft is spinning. This information is used by the Engine Control Module (ECM) to control ignition and fuel injection. The sensor system consists of a rotating part, typically a disc, as well as a static part, the actual sensor.

When the engine is running, the high and low parts of the teeth cause the gap with the sensor to change. The changing gap causes the magnetic field near the sensor to change. The change in the magnetic field cause the voltage from the sensor to change.

Read more: http://www.autocodes.com/p1336_nissan.html#ixzz49D8LIq6G


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9DQWP8jAtc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73P0mGyvOm0

princemillla:
P0180


P1336
P0325

AM I IN SERIOUS TROUBLE

P0180 NISSAN - Fuel Temperature Sensor

Possible causes
- Faulty Engine Fuel Temperature Sensor
- Engine Fuel Temperature Sensor harness is open or shorted
- Engine Fuel Temperature Sensor circuit poor electrical connection

When is the code detected?
An excessively high or low voltage is sent to Engine Control Module (ECM).

Possible symptoms
- Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)

P0180 Nissan Description

The fuel tank temperature sensor is used to detect the fuel temperature inside the fuel tank. The sensor modifies a voltage signal from the Engine Control Module (ECM). The modified signal returns to the ECM as the fuel temperature input. The sensor uses a thermistor which is sensitive to the change in temperature. The electrical resistance of the thermistor decreases as temperature increases.

Solution

If the first step was to check what code you have, then the next step is to check or replaced the fuel tank temperature sensor. Depending on your Nissan model year, the sensor is with the fuel level sender unit inside the fuel tank.

Read more: http://www.autocodes.com/p0180_nissan.html#ixzz49CujeLNv

princemillla:
Bro are you in lagos? If you are kindly drop your number for me. I need help as its now.

not in country

usually if its from the engine, then it is related to type of engine oil in use, or failing rollers or lifters or something of that nature.

I suggest you contact a nissan expert.

Nisspart is in Lagos and can link you up though his charges may be high

Or try linking up with dharmeel, he should connect you to a cheaper mechanic

costee is also a nissan guy

And finally drumma

Of course there are the usual suspects, i mean established names on the forum all based in Lagos that you can reach out to.

All I can help you with is suggestions from afar.

All the best but do keep me informed, and i will try to help as much as one can from afar

That vehicle shares common components with the nissan quest of the equivalent period

princemillla:
Hello my gurus in the house.

My mercury villager gives a clicking sound on movement. The more the speed the more the clicking sound.

Someone said it's a collapse valve lifters. Pls help out. I don't want to place my engine in a suicide mode.

Cc: siana GAZZUZZ MPVGoddess erico2k2

Clicking sound? what engine oil is it?

Now again, what if you are misreading the sound? could be faulty hubs or a bad cv joint.

I would advice, let a competent mech check it for you

did you resolve the problems on the other thread? is your fuel consumption in order

obiorathesubtle:
if this was a Nigerian movie..



"The return of Nneka a.k.a. The angry ex-girlfriend..

LOL

FlexTrex:
It depends on the reason, i reckon. However, I assume there is a notice period given for objections. Of your claim is valid and within this period, do a letter to the registrar stating your claim.
By the way, I hope you know polygamy is not illegal in these parts.
Good luck to “your folks ”！

Notice period appears to be about 30 days

Question though is what reasons are valid and what reasons are invalid

Thanks for your advice dear

This is not polygamy-related by the way

iceberylin:
With all ya wisdom you cant help em YIMU

Well...can parents stop a marriage? Can siblings stop a marriage? can a jilted lover stop a marriage?

Has it been done before?

I may be wise in some areas and unwise in others

So I was here to crowd-source wisdom

How does one go about doing the above?

There is a marriage that I need to stop...

Has anyone done this before?

Do I go the Registry and file objection before the couple goes there or after the couple goes there?

Please advice.

Asking in behalf of my folks since I am not in the country but I will pass this thread to them to read on their devices, at least they know how to click and read a link LOL

Thanks all

sooperrescue:
So he brought the car to me and we started analyzing the problems with the car. The transmission fluid was grey in colour, completely burnt, the gear selector on the dashboard does not show except on reverse, the car had four different spark plugs, the air intake hose was torn and an adhesive tape was used to wrap it up, the engine oil chamber was full of sludge, the air filter was clogged, the engine seat was completely unseated that if you select reverse on that Santa Fe, it will feel like it is going to explode, the car has an okada pressing horn instead of the one designed by Hyundai, the gear electronics were muddled up together and the engine and gear were not in its normal state. When I saw the car, I gave it to my technician to test drive and he said we need to change the starter switch to make the gear to identify the gears it selects. Emeka Nwokolo was in a hurry to take the car back that day and I was all day contemplating on what to do, where we will get the parts because the Santa Fe parts are not common. I called all known suppliers for NGK PFR5N spark plugs and there was a guy called Bisi in Agindingbi who told me that there is someone who will get it for me for 10000 for 4 and 15k for 6 as the car is a V6. Emeka agreed to the price and said that we should go ahead. That was the second day. He only made a deposit of N10,000 on that first day. The second day, we told him that his car will not be ready as the electrician has not even started the work. He cried out that he will lose a million naira if he does not go home with that car that night. So from the cars in my workshop, I told him to try and drive the commander and see if it will be convenient for him so that he can take it home and not lose the one million that he will make that night. I jokingly told him that I have 50k inside the n1m that he will make that night. He drove the car out, went and bought fuel and came back and told us that he can manage it. The guy that supplies us transmission parts gave us the starting switch and two other switches with ten wires each. The one in the car has been joined left to right and it was an eyesore. We paid 30,000 for those items and we changed the smelly transmission fluid using our Pureguard which is compatible with SP 111. We used 5 litres.
The electrician that worked on the car did not understand the mess that was created in the car and in trying to put them right, discovered that the fuel was pouring into the engine. The cold start switch was not even connected on the car. I now advised him to use good synthetic oil on his car or we can use Mobil HXP. He initially gave us the go ahead and we used Castrol 5 w 30 in the car which he later denied and we had to drain the oil out and went to buy Mobil for him. He wanted to see the switches that we bought and I told him that if I remove the battery and bring out the switches, he will be responsible for the result. He insisted and I unplugged the switch for him to see and he then agreed to pay for the switches. This happened after we have been calling him to come and pick up his car. Someone who was anxious to use his car failed to come and pick it until the 4th day when he came with the determination to question my bill. Although we made an error in the bill adding an extra 3500 to the oil bill, Emeka Nwokolo said he had the intention of paying 7k for Labour, he does not need the synthetic Castrol oil, and that we should pour it out, which we did and bought him Mobil with our money. In order not to be provoked, I told him that whatever he want to pay, he should give them to my boys because I will never labour for 7k. Initially he agreed to pay for the switches and was about paying with the POS for 17k. I told my Secretary to follow him to the bank and collect the 17k. On getting there, he changed his mind and said that he will pay only 5k for the Mobil oil. I told my Secretary to let him go with the money as I am no longer interested in what he is up to. He dropped my Secretary and left. In all , he paid 60,000, the spark plugs, the switches, the starting switch, the transmission fluid SP111, 5 litres, the 5 litres Castrol oil, the Mobil HXP, the Air filter and the relays and wiring, one nozzle, and the countless phone calls to traders in the market and transportation to the market. And HE, Emeka Joseph Nwokolo is claiming here on Nairaland that he was scammed. Be the Judge

Rule 10 broken, OP only revealed technician's first name, in anger tech has revealed all his names, is this right?

Rule 3, tech has made a subtle threat to collect money through what appears to be less than legal means

If a customer is always right, we know that's not true, then there is something wrong about the tone of tech's response.

Anyway, if he doesn't care the effect on his business, why should I be concerned?

http://www.answers.com/Q/Where_are_Oxygen_sensors_in_1999_Mercury_Villager

This might also help you...

erico2k2:
They have grades. First you need to find out the type your uses. U might need just 2.depends on ur Engine. For how much ,I can't tell you. As I don't sell parts. But b4 U buy new ones check if the Old ones are bad.

check two things:

in this order

- is the wiring bad but the sensor good? then repair the wiring

- is the sensor bad but the wiring is good? then replace the sensor

actually if you are mechanically minded you could do this test yourself - locate the sensors ( they should be two of them, i assume that vehicle uses a V6, on both sides of the engine. run your hands through the wiring if the shield is bad, then fix it for all of them that are bad.

If you aren't comfortable doing this, then any mechanic familiar with Nissan Quest 1999 - 2002 can assist you


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYwHOn4NhMY

diportivo:
And princemillla's mercury villager is still guzzling 65ltrs from lagos to abeokuta

Make una help the guy na




Naija is not Godforsaken tho

From personal experience, get someone to test your oxygen sensor circuits, and if they are ok, replace the oxygen sensors ASAP.

But from the first post made by erico2k2, the wiring of your oxygen sensors are bad.

It says shorted, in plain english, it means that wires that should not touch are touching, causing current/signals to go through unintended paths.

This singular act, fixing the oxygen sensor wiring and then if the oxygen sensors themselves are bad, replacing them will do so much to reduce your fuel consumption esp if they are the front oxygen sensors that control fuel air mixture, I have not determined that for you. On the other hand, if it is not the front oxygen sensor but the rear which control the exhaust then you will not have the same effect. My assumption without attempting to prove otherwise, is that it is your front oxygen sensors that are bad.

The next thing to look at, but some may say that is actually the first thing to have looked at is the below:
- Intake air leaks
- Exhaust gas leaks

These have been known to throw off the air/fuel ratio so much that the problem you are complaining of would come to be. You need a mechanic that can do mechanical analysis in combination with computer based diagnosis, because only then, will he not tell you it runs and drives, but will do all the checks necessary to ensure that your system is running at its optimum. This cannot be done without doing certain mechanical checks, clearing codes, test driving, and if the codes still appear doing further testing until the intake air/exhaust gas leaks are eliminated. erico2k2 recommended a smoke test, even YouTube can teach you to do that, since i am not sure of your electrical troubleshooting skills, so why not begin here?


This is why cocoduck spoke of live data, live data is obtained from computer based code readers. Hence my suggestion to get someone who is adept at both types of diagnosis. Or if you are mechanically minded and an avid learner and have the time, you could use your vehicle as a learning ground.

Next, or in concert with the above, face the issue of the faulty fuel injectors; the fuel tank temperature sensor and the knock sensor as well as the Crankshaft Position Or Camshaft Position Sensor Input Signal Error

and give us feedback on how it went

akanniade10:
[color=Blue] sent you a mail already. [/color]

Most obliged.

God bless you

akanniade10:
[color=Blue]trust me bro, you don't wanna go down this lane. It's slavery.

Will make my mail box and check if I still have the mail one of the access bank staffs sent me. Will send to u if I still have[/color]

My email is my nairaland id/name @ outlook.com, Please do send me!

Thanks.

How much does the Kia Cerato cost ordinarily?

How much will it cost via financing?

Any prerequisites other than the initial 10% down-payment?

erico2k2:
I have read all you have said, I think you are learning as we go which is good,you have realized you cant detect a vacuum leak via a scanner that was what mayor2013 was trying to correct you on, and also you can never use WATER to detect a vacuum leak NEVER(How would you fill the vacuum line that goes into your throttle body with water?) if you insist where are you going to put the water? don't forget vacuum means no air.
From all the codes up there, all he has to start with is inspect teh Knock sensor, if found bad change it then he takes it from there,
Just as a point to note, your live DATA does not give you repairs suggestion rather a flow chat of how things are working.The only thing that suggest a fault is your OBD11 fault code stored i n your ECU interpreted via ur scanner.

Now that you mention Knock sensor, not all knock sensor codes come from a faulty knock sensor.

I thought I had a faulty knock sensor, and so got a new one, still the codes would come back so I traced the wiring to the ECU and discovered that they were shot, so I can new wires to the knock sensor and the one I had in the car still worked, so I didn't have to use the new, point is, I recall that his vehicle was recently worked on, and several wiring gremlins appeared, so please rule out faulty wiring before getting a new knock sensor

There is a secret to choosing a good spray painter

...use the ones major car dealers use, almost without exception, they are the best that can be found

I love your ride

it is distinctive

does that make it less easy to steal? I hope so

Bisjosh:
Funny enough, they get the best husbands

Yea...They know what's good and what's bad...They know men inside out..So when it is time to settle down...they use their experience to get the best guys on the block...who will never know what has just befallen them...because they know next to nothing...how sad...but true

Quakertellicus1:
No, he does not need ''true love''.

He needs to face the consequences of his actions.....and be humbled by them.

When some of us jokers tell people ''Don't sleep around'' and ''A real man takes care of his children''....we get knocked as prudes. But there is a cold reason why sleeping around, doing drugs, etc ...in other words committing sin....leads to more problems than it can solve.

Mr Teebillz now has children by three different women. Can he take care of them? And I don't mean financially.

My dad is not perfect. But I am thankful he was around for me and my siblings childhood...and is still around for our adulthood. If he was not ''around'''....God knows where I would be.

And let's be fair. You that is mocking Tiwa....would you agree if your partner/spouse of the opposite sex had babies with other people....while pretending to be loyal to you? Is your concept of loyalty so flexible as to accept cheating in other couples....except when it affects you.?

Abeg....babymamaisim, and sleeping around might be fun.But the hurt caused can take years to resolve.

Lots of sense

funso77:
@MPVGoddess, well xplained 4 those interested in ur model and business operandi but mind u am nt here 2 argue and neither is dis a thread 4 sm emotional outburst. That's y in business there are competitions, incentives and all that and 4 what purpose? Workers welfare or customer retainership? Look inwards, nobody cares how ur management is structured or how much profit u make yearly except ure a shareholder, d business owner or an employee of d organization.

D risks u outlinedd above is necessary coz u wanna b in d biz 4 a long term jus as u said. U wanna b in control so what d'u think is expected? There r instances and likely possibility dat wht ure toiling afta 4 d said 5years, pple cn make it in 2-3years and wlda already moved on 2 something else. Its about what we want.

My thread wz created 2 look 4 someone or an org who cn help me on a short term basis with a vehicle on hire purchase terms and am focused on that rationale and nt deviating. Am nt interested in d profession or how it's a means to an end, am passionate about it, focused and very zealous 2 turn my passion into income

My point was and still is do not limit your options.
The tail of the elephant is better businesswise than a complete ant!

In plain English, say you want to be paid 2.5 million for a contract, but the client is offering 1.75 million, will you rather walk away or get less?
There are people who do hire purchase, I pray you find them, but if you don't will you rather stay unemployed? Under-employment is better than no-employment. Ask all the contract workers in Nigeria who faithfully report to duty day in day out despites the hues and cries of slavery. That in one sentence is the message am passing.

By the way, I made it clear from the onset I was not asking you to come on board my ship.
I wanted to help you see what goes on in the mind of someone who has funds or vehicles when someone who doesn't and needs same approaches him to be given one.

NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN HELPING YOU, UNLESS YOU HELP THEM REACH THEIR OWN GOALS FIRST! THEREFORE IF YOUR GOAL DOES NOT HELP THEM REACH THEIR GOAL, THEIR VEHICLES WILL RATHER LIE FALLOW AND THEIR FUNDS UNDERUTILIZED THAN OTHERWISE. SO SMART PEOPLE WILL PREPARE A PROPOSAL THAT MAKES MIND/HEART OF THE FUNDS/VEHICLE OWNER JUMP FOR JOY, SO THEY TOO GET WHAT THEY WANT. YOU CANNOT DO THAT UNLESS YOU KNOW/UNDERSTAND/APPRECIATE HOW THEY THINK!

I bet you no transport company can operate that model and survive.

No company can break even with the hire purchase model.

If hire purchase is cost x 2
Let's say a sienna cost 1,000,000.00
Then you want to pay the vehicle owner 2,000,000.00

Any company that operates the hire purchase model is not being forthright with its tax obligations and the need to truly break even and not appear to break even because:

Nigeria's corporate income tax is 30% of profits
so if he made 2,000,000.00 gross then assuming profit is 1,000,000.00

then he would actually be going home with 700,000.00 because 300,000.00 belongs to the government

but that calculation fails to take into consideration that he also has to maintain the vehicle and pay for fuel, etc, etc

He also needs to pay staff. He also has to pay VAT at 5%, although they are plans to increase it to 18%.
Then there are levies paid to local governments, state governments, licenses before the vehicle can be on the road, insurance, etc.
there is also education tax aka tertiary education tax,

What of the cost of the property from which the company operates?

Point is from the point of view of a business, the hire purchase model is not sensible.

Even if it were sensible, the multiplier will not be x2 but much higher. So a smart guy will tell the lender, others do x2, but I will increase it to ….
Of course, I am not saying no one will help you, am just explaining why it is difficult to break even from the standpoint of a corporate entity on the hire purchase model.

And which is why to the true corporate player, your proposition does not fly.Which is why you present this proposal to the bank, and it will be land in the bin.

There is next to nothing to be made, it favors you, not the owner of the funds.

And with the economy as it is, people are taking the time to ensure they don't run losses.

I wish you the best...with the hire purchase model.

I hesitated to comment all along even though I saw the thread from the moment you created it, now I have, tried to help you look at matters from the angle of those whom you are seeking help from.

Assuming you are dealing with an individual and not a company, then personal income tax rates apply, and if the person is honest with his tax obligations, then the x2 model is still not reasonable because are looking at the following taxable deductions:

First 300,000 is 7%
next 300,000 is 11%
Next 500,000 is 15%
Next 500,000 is 19%
Next 1,600,000 is 21%
Over 3,200,00 is 24%

I will comment no further, since my aim is not to detract from your mission.

I have already succeeded in educating anyone who wants to be a driver for a vehicle he does not own to see the big picture, so he can prepare a winning proposal for both parties.

Someone somewhere will most definitely thank me for this analysis.

Case Closed

mrsage:
From my little experience. These guys who steal cars are also experts. Irrespective of the steering lock, keys etc. In Naija here your car may still get stolen.

I discovered recently that these guys also have expert electricians/ mechanics as part of the criminal network.

The most practical solution here in Nigeria is to just install a tracking device and take up comprehensive insurance.

makes sense to me

+common sense i.e., a keen understanding of no-go areas, no-go passengers, and no-park areas at anytime or particular times, and keeping an eye on associates and even ensuring one lives in a secure area, all of the above can reduce the risk

thanks

GAZZUZZ:
every car I own has a tracking device. Just install a tracker. No one will ever believe a cheap taxi had one installed.

Thanks boss, the comment was created based on your input on the other thread. Glad that you commented

funso77:
Well, thanks for ur candid thots but lemme clear something here. I believe to some extent it is the greediness of sm investors or d opinionated idea of turning drivers 2 slaves that has largely crippled d transportation biz and d dishonesty exhibited at most times. Consider working 4 an organization 4 example, after u've negotiated ur salary and d coy now pays u what they like coz its ur fault that d coy is nt doing well or being managed well so u av 2 pay 4 it. Just imagine that scenario. Or they blv ure earning above ur paygrade so without consulting u they shld cut ur earnings.

If u've decided to do biz in a certain way irrespective of whatever profit that has bn agreed upon by both parties, who earns more or less shldnt b a problem. There r diff scenarios I can site but let me not eat up space.

Ure right though, but d question is how much longer d'u wanna exploit a man who has given u twice ur investment in a biz which u cannot even get frm financial institutions dis days. He will become dishonest and start working 4 his pocket 2

Dear brother,

Did you say greed? What of the banks, oil companies, the likes of beverage makers, alcoholic drinks, the telecoms firms and co? do they do the x1.5 or x2.0 model? what of the latest craze in town Uber? Care to know how many hundreds and thousands of times, they make the money they invested?

There is a certain refrain in business - nothing ventured, nothing gained. There is yet another refrain: the greater the risk, the greater the return. The vehicle owner risks more than the driver, and so the reward should be skewed in his favour, not the other way round.

This is not an emotional argument but a rational argument.

My research yielded the following information:
- the hire purchase model in which an investor gains x1.5 or x2.0 his investment in 1 or 2 years
- the fuel money model in which the driver is given 18,000.00 per trip
- the weekly return model in which the vehicle owner is given 30,000.00 per week
- the per round trip model in which the vehicle owner is given 25,000.00 per trip
- the uber model in which the driver earns a percentage and Uber earns 20% to 25%

In most of the above models except the uber model, the driver sees much more cash than the one who owns the vehicle. That if you know business is not business. Given the level of investment of both the driver and the vehicle owner.

There is a missing link here, often the agreements are oral, also if there is an accident the drivers bears no risk, the vehicle owner does. So handing over a vehicle to a driver is more often than not, bankrolling the driver and creating losses for the vehicle owner. And the driver often cannot enforce the agreement against the company, it is his word against theirs. That is not our model. Everything is documented. the agreement, everything. because everything is recorded, we can measure, and we can take action immediately before we are messed up.

Who bears more risk? the driver? or the one who owns the vehicle and in whose name the vehicle is registered and should something untoward happen, he will be liable.

The answer is clear.

There is another issue, if I invest, I should dictate the terms of return I am comfortable with. Either you work with me or I find someone who will.

With me, my vehicles are comprehensively insured. The driver is also insured. I also pay for a Health maintenance plan for the driver, so should he fall sick up to a certain amount, he does not pay from his pocket, and up to a certain amount the company will match any amount the driver has to pay. But I want to be in control of the driver and the vehicle and not the driver in control of me and my vehicle. So among other things, no repairs without authorization, no repairs at unauthorized places, no damages to the vehicle or other people's property and if there is damage then the driver must split costs. So even when he earns, I hold on to a portion of his earning, and release it to him at the end of a set period of accident-free driving and in which no parts failed which can be attributable to human error and this is in the agreement.

I do long term. Each vehicle will be run for 5 years. at the end of the 5 years, it can be written off and sold as scrap, that is my model not one year or two years, it does not make sense to a business properly run with overheads to do the one or two years thing. But given all that is thrown into the bargain, my driver has a better deal than the driver in those other models above.

He also agrees in writing that if he messes up, he losses each of those benefits.

of course if he scared, he should have his own lawyer come to the negotiating and agreement signing stage, because I am beginning to think one of the witnesses for our drivers must be a lawyer, and he too must sign an attestation that he personally read and explained the contents of the agreement to the driver, and that the driver admitted he understand the obligations and liabilities, however, beyond that the lawyer who witnessed has not obligations in the occasion of a default by the driver except that his attestation will be used against the driver, if we have to enforce the terms of the agreement against the driver.

But we document the agreement capturing each and every single possible scenario that drivers have used to cheat owners, and also ensuring that the driver gets a fair bargain if he treats the vehicle well.

I don't mind handing over the vehicle to the driver for 500,000 at the end of 5 years provided he has made me met my projections. Certainly not over 2 years, God forbid. What of my overheads, taxes, and most importantly, a healthy profit margin? Am no father christmas, man!

Just get this right, no one ever pays your 100,000.00 as salary because you made 100,000.00. Usually you make 1,000,000.00 and get paid 100,000.00 as salary, that is business for you. If you don't like it, then find your own money and don't work for anyone.

You think both ways, what if i were the driver, and what if i were the owner, and what if i ran a business, then you will appreciate the above.

If you ask all those with sour stories from dealing with drivers, then you will agree that we have most certainly not gone overboard

Because of this thread, https://www.nairaland.com/3071262/car-been-stolen-maitama-abuja, I gotta ask a question before I get burnt:

Because i am investing in transportation business, I have been requested to purchase the same type of vehicle for my inlaw to do taxi business in abuja.

Which vehicles used for taxi come with factory security aka anti-theft deterrents like immobilizer and programmed keys.

I know that pedal lock, fuel cut timer, tracker are installed by buyers not the factory.

I just hope that this vehicle also has steering lock or they didn't include those in the cars until recently?

cc GAZZUZZ

How about expanding the options:

I for one do not subscribe to the hire purchase model.

We wish to remain largely in control, plus the hire purchase profit model is too shallow for our liking.

For our vehicles, we will do comprehensive insurance, we will be in charge of servicing, we will insure our drivers, and we will pay our drivers a percentage of earnings that we believe is decent, but we will do a proper/legally enforceable agreement which means if a driver messes up, he is kicked out, but if he plays nice, he is nicely rewarded better than what normally obtains.

There may be vehicles out there that are available but not on hire purchase, from others apart from us.

Just a few thoughts for your consideration

nurey:
This incidents occur at night to early hours of the morning let's say 8pm upto 6am. The roads are bad so you can't zoom when the thief attack because of difference in wheel and shocks the luxurious bus has more advantage than even trailers better ground clearance and badass acceleration. There is a way to know robbery is going on its by not seeing on coming traffic again or those who experience and escaped will warn.

The most annoying is the last one happened around 4am and there were 4 police check point around and non of them decided to intervene even after been told.
As we were passing we saw an hiace bus and a car beside the Bush, a trailer in front of us suddenly men jumped from the Bush they hid at first because of the headlamp light as they came out we heard oya stop there that's when I woke up and several gun shots, the driver swerved left and zoomed away I nearly rolled down the steps. But we warned other vehicles and they decided to find another route or wait for the thing to clear.

The thieves take advantage of the bad road to rob unsuspecting motorists and passengers who saw the police said they had no guns, that they lent it to the thieves to operate with and pay them later

I spoke to a driver within the week who collaborates your story.

He says Lagos Abuja is deadly due to the bad spots you spoke of.

He hates that route because those bad spots make good business for kidnappers and thieves.

Lately it seems that there is an upsurge in such crimes.

I read somewhere on this board, I guess the thread on how long one can drive in hours, that driving interstate/long distance in Nigeria is a task that must be done and gotten over ASAP because of the dangers on the road.

In the light of the above, it would seem that the concept of enforcing speed limits on our highways is an extremely dangerous thing to do and may cause more harm than it will prevent, and should never see the light of day since Nigerian roads are not secure.

Pleasure to drive most certainly the C300 is.

Will you have passengers or load? If not, then get the C300. The roads can be bad and the ride low but I don't think its that low or so bad that with a single person in it, you would have trouble.

For one thing, it is not a thief magnet.

If not, then get the Venza.

Its a nice ride, higher ground clearance, but then it is Toyota, and so because it is, it tends to try to attract unwanted attention

and now that RX350 has come into the picture:

Question has been asked before: https://www.nairaland.com/2600736/toyota-venza-vs-toyota-lexus.

If you run a search at toyotanation with this phrase, you will get more insights: "Venza vs. Lexus RX350", the first comment read:

My personal opinion is that:
- The Venza is wider
- The Venza has longer wheelbase
- The Venza has better ground clearance (Yes, that shows you how much of an SUV the RX is )
- The Venza is cheaper

the second reads:

As a currently Venza owner and have driven both cars, all of I have to say is you get for what you paid. Venza is nice and all compared to other Toyotas and Hondas but Lexus is a step or two up, its interior is much nicer, softer leather, more luxury (the trim and dashboard doesn't look and feel cheap like the Venza). I picked Venza over Lexus strictly because of my budget and the overall total cost of ownership...maybe I'll go for a Lexus next time...

...don't want to post thread lest I be banned.

Of course, if i were in your shoes, i would do the same... drive myself...which I will do when I do visit soon

Osgilliat:
You don't really mean that. You need to know that these billionaire never get tired of money. They want to acquire more and more. They don't care where the money is coming from, all they are after is to be the one at the top of every list of wealth folks.
The rich don't want their friends or even family to be rich like them. Do you know why? Because they won't be able to send them to an errands once they do. Please stop the illusion of having one of those billionaire as president.

Words of wisdom

Words of truth

Words on marble

is it no longer allowed to ship personal effects in cars being brought into nigeria?

what are the cost implications of clearing such if allowed?

how does one prevent theft of items in such vehicles?

Please advice?

Vehicle in question is 2005 Toyota Sienna

nurey:
The cam sensor is made of plastic and when hot car jerks and losses power we don change sensor Taya. The car is from Belgium so scanning is a no no. Besides using Nissan in kano is like using Concord jet among Boeing 707. The verdict of the mechanic is to now start throwing parts at the car, I don't have that kind of money and patience.

If you transverse the owo (ondo) and okenne (kogi) route very well, they are filled with daredevil robbers now more apparent at owo. They can't attack luxurious bus because it is big and bullets don't penetrate easily even the driver door is bullet proof modified and the wind screen is very thick. The only way they rob luxurious bus is if it develops fault on the way.

The owo road is filled with what I call toureg/grand Canyon. For hiace or smaller cars you can't run pass through this roads or your car gets damaged they jump out of the Bush and spray bullets sporadically.

The best is not to pass that road in the evenings or dead of the night, if you are driving behind a trailer please ensure you overtake or give a good distance. Never "nogere" in owo or okenne the robbers there aren't kind.

I have had 3 robbery attacks in a luxurious bus around that area and the way the driver picks speed at the sound of gun shot can deliver prematurely a baby from a pregnant woman.

That's why i said i respect, now I do appreciate, and agree. You must not be stranded anywhere, that is deadly. So let me say a man who leaves a fight, lives to fight another day. BRAVO! You are that man!!

Now I wasn't aware that there are problems along the Owo route, but I was aware there are troubles along Okenne.

Around what time of day did you suffer from the 3 robbery attacks, can you throw more light on these incidents.

And can you explain the bolded: For hiace or smaller cars you can't run pass through this roads or your car gets damaged they jump out of the Bush and spray bullets sporadically.

Does this happen all day or in the evening/night?

nurey:
I am really sorry at the dime minute I chickened out reaons
1. The car condition wasn't to my expectations so I just got rid of it

2. The road lately is filled with robbers my mind just kept on telling me I could fall prey. Okenne and owo side are just too dangerous.

I opted for train but disappointed so am using luxurious bus.

Sorry for the disappointment but my life is important to me. Thank you all.

Clarify number 1

On number 2, What if the luxurious bus met robbers, what would happen? What is the difference between meeting robbers with you driving and with you being driven?

Given that your decision is driven by respect for life, i can understand, even if I do not agree. Hope you will do another such trip soon in a better ride or a ride you trust more, and complete it ( i mean to and fro) to counter the impression that you are chicken-hearted, a woman, so you can be inducted into the hall of fame of manly men LOL

mili3kid:
big big congrats to U ooo... i pray ur business will be successful n prosperous. if U see au i don dey look out for siennas since dis thread started ehn? i just neva see money... even if I sell my golf. hehehehe

I spoke with my partners and they vigorously disagreed with buying them in Nigeria or Cotonou, the Sienna is still in the U.S.

Waiting for its siblings, so they all come to Nigeria at once.

May God bless your hustle too, I know that you will succeed, it is a matter of time.

Or you could pull resources with like minds like I am doing from the states