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Car TalkRe: Which Toyota Sienna Is Best For Use In Public Transportation And Why? by MPVGoddess(op): 4:45pm On Apr 03, 2016
Healthy debate going on here.

Thanks for all the input, if not because of cost considerations actually the 2006 version is better because of side curtain airbags as a standard option.

I will create a shopping list of must-have options based on all the information presented here!

How important is it to get a vehicle with this package: Vehicle Stability Control (VSC)+ Traction Control (TRAC) — includes windshield de-icer grid, Daytime Running Lights (DRL) and rear disc brakes?


VSC is in a package option for non AWD models and the VSC package is standard in AWD models and XLE Limited. The package includes:

-VSC
-Traction Control
-Rear disc brakes
-Windshield de-icer grid
-Daytime running lights

Courtesy : Toyota Nation
Car TalkRe: Which Toyota Sienna Is Best For Use In Public Transportation And Why? by MPVGoddess(op): 8:30am On Apr 03, 2016
diportivo:
The higher the trim,the higher u pay to buy it

For transportation,u need to maximize ur profit....and since the ce will deliver the same output as the xle engine wise,the cheaper variant should be ur best bet...

I chose the le cos of its slightly higher ground clearance.its an alloy wheel with bigger tyres.....it clld even come with a dvd entertainment system...for the price of an le still

Xle,dvd or no dvd,price shld be higher
Thanks so much, i don't play in the Toyota league so I desperately need help to score!
Car TalkRe: Which Toyota Sienna Is Best For Use In Public Transportation And Why? by MPVGoddess(op): 7:52am On Apr 03, 2016
diportivo:
U av ur mind set on d second gen already

Dont waste any more time then


Do the 04/05...2MZ-FE fwd

Avoid the 06/07 2gr-fe

LE trim is okay...aslong as u avoid the AWD

While AWD isnt bad,i feel its not needed since u want to use it for transportation
yea agreed, that am sold on the 04/05.

What is confounding with me is which of the trims to go for and why: 2WD or 4WD or CE, LE, XLE/XLE Limited

Could you help me with why LE over the rest, I get your reason for 2WD over AWD
Car TalkRe: Which Toyota Sienna Is Best For Use In Public Transportation And Why? by MPVGoddess(op): 7:50am On Apr 03, 2016
nurey:
if fuel economy is of concern stay away from the face lift 2007 upwards. the engine was revised from 3.3 to 3.5 and mpg dropped. Also fwd has a better mpg than awd especially in highway driving.
The leather of the second generation is nothing to write home about, not as puffy as the first generation xle and symphony edition.

I have been in both cars and weighed them side by side. I think the extra tyre goes under where the exhaust is also having a trailer anchor mount helps protect the bumper from hitting the ground.
like I said the only advantage the 2nd has over the first is still the second row window. go to jibowu and see how 1st generation sienna outshine the second.
Thanks, am told at least one transport company uses the 3.5, i think they mentioned auto...something, but am not considering those, 3.3 is ok for me!

Anywhere I think the AWD tire issue is because originally they came with runflats, which have since been replaced with normal tires as at the time of purchase as tokunbo
Car TalkRe: Which Toyota Sienna Is Best For Use In Public Transportation And Why? by MPVGoddess(op): 11:38pm On Apr 02, 2016
just learnt from Toyota Nation that AWD Sienna's have no space designed for a spare of any kind!

so where does it go?
Car TalkRe: Which Toyota Sienna Is Best For Use In Public Transportation And Why? by MPVGoddess(op): 11:28pm On Apr 02, 2016
nurey:
the first generation is more rugged than the second generation. It will also be cheaper to maintain than the second generation.

the second Gen has better leg room and ample cargo space but at full capacity the first generation has a slightly higher ground clearance than the second generation.

another advantage the second has over the first is the second window roll down. the first generation has blocked window here which causes heat build up in holdup or hot weather.

both generation share engine parts with a lot of cars, camry, Solara, avalon, Lexus RX series, highlander.

if you going for the first generation, the 2001 to 2003 has a better fuel economy than 1997 to 2000 because the engine was revised then.
Thanks Nurey.

I really wonder why people keep saying that the first generation is more rugged than the second. I would like data to back up that claim.

As for the issue of cheaper to maintain, we made some enquiries and learnt that if the first generation uses 12,000.00 petrol for say Lagos to Port Harcourt, the second generation uses 10,000.00

Actually we are not considering the first generation because
1. given a choice between first generation and second generation, travelers tend to prefer the second generation and because of
2. slight improvements in fuel economy and
3. the window issue which Toyota got wrong but Mazda got right in 1999/2000, and which Toyota subsequently corrected in the next model
4. the 3.0 v6 engine is very sludge prone but the 3.3 v6 is not so i can run full synthetics and a longer OCI (6,213 miles or 10,000 km) given that each run we will be doing is over 500km or 800km, we hope to get 30 MPG on open roads which is not possible with the 3.0v6 engine in the 2000 - 2003 models (that should further reduce operating costs)

We did not consider this, but we can add it to our reasons:

5. better leg room
6. more ample cargo space

What i have not been able to decide on is whether to go for 2WD or 4WD or CE, LE, XLE/XLE Limited

Maybe I need to some more research.

Thanks so much
Car TalkWhich Toyota Sienna Is Best For Use In Public Transportation And Why? by MPVGoddess(op): 10:59am On Apr 02, 2016
I asked a question here the other day, which is better to import or buy and I good advice. See thread here: https://www.nairaland.com/3015502/import-car-minivan-buy-locally

Am here again to ask for more advice.

I want to invest some $$$$ in a couple of sectors including the transportation industry.

I would appreciate advice from mechanics and drivers and transporters.

It is clear that as far as transportation is concerned in minivans, that the Toyota Sienna is king of the road.

What I need to know as a greenhorn is which to buy and why.

Right now am considering 2004, 2005 and 2006.

All I know for now is that it should be an 8 seater, what I don't know is what trim etc.

Any help would be highly appreciated.
TravelRe: Tips On How To Survive Abuja For Freshers (personal Experience) by MPVGoddess: 9:36pm On Mar 31, 2016
LOL on the comment about planned city
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by MPVGoddess: 8:37pm On Mar 31, 2016
sehawale:
.

Sure you can. It qualifies for Uber black.
Thanks so much!

So what is the difference between an UberX and an UberBlack ride in terms of driver earnings? Say for example for a 20km ride within the town?

Is Uber Black operational in Nigeria?

And do customers really request for UberBlack here in Nigeria as opposed to UberX?

Any and all comments would be appreciated
BusinessRe: How Much Did You Exchange The Dollar For Today? by MPVGoddess: 3:01am On Mar 31, 2016
lawofeso:
Transfast gives you more money than Ria
Thanks so much. What about Transferwise? does that one work too? how does it stack up?
BusinessRe: How Much Did You Exchange The Dollar For Today? by MPVGoddess: 10:12pm On Mar 30, 2016
ria or transfast, which do you prefer to send money to nigeria from usa
Car TalkRe: Import A Car And Minivan Or Buy Locally - Advice Please by MPVGoddess(op): 6:58pm On Mar 28, 2016
GAZZUZZ:
buy locally, you should get a better deal.

Economy is bad and volume of car sales have reduced. It's has reflected on the price of vehicles, but the buying power is not very strong.

Worst case if you cannot find what you want, go to cotonu.
Thanks Big Boss!
BusinessRe: Invest In Uber by MPVGoddess: 3:17pm On Mar 28, 2016
can i use a mercedes benz sedan s-class or c-class for uber in nigeria if it meets those criteria?
BusinessRe: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by MPVGoddess: 3:16pm On Mar 28, 2016
can i use a mercedes benz sedan s-class or c-class for uber in nigeria if it meets those criteria?
BusinessRe: Uber Investment Opportunities - Lagos And Abuja by MPVGoddess: 3:12pm On Mar 28, 2016
can i use a mercedes benz sedan s-class or c-class for uber in nigeria if it meets those criteria?
BusinessRe: Uber Taxi Business Inquiry by MPVGoddess: 3:09pm On Mar 28, 2016
can i use a mercedes benz sedan s-class or c-class for uber in nigeria if it meets those criteria?
BusinessRe: A Viable Business Model For Car Owners In Lagos, Nigeria by MPVGoddess: 3:05pm On Mar 28, 2016
can i use a mercedes benz sedan s-class or c-class for uber in nigeria if it meets those criteria?
Car TalkImport A Car And Minivan Or Buy Locally - Advice Please by MPVGoddess(op): 2:25pm On Mar 28, 2016
Any ideas?

Given how broke the country is...

and the attention to ways of taking money out of the masses like never before...

Would you advice me to import two cars i wish to buy from the U.S. or source them locally?

Am looking at a Toyota Camry 2008 and a Toyota Sienna XLE 2008

How has purchased either or both locally? going rates?

Also custom clearing rates as at today.

Thanks for answering
Car TalkRe: Electric tuks in Nigeria by MPVGoddess: 9:43am On Mar 09, 2016
ellenfransico:
grin Approximately USD 2000. The final price need to confirm with sales department embarassed
I know one person on nairaland and another off nairaland that can build an electric keke napep.

in fact the one on nairaland commented above me

why don't you bring the shell and partner with gurus here to build the electric motors here

buynaija
Car TalkRe: What Is The Speed Limit At Which One Should Not Apply Brakes When Tire Bursts by MPVGoddess: 1:35pm On Mar 08, 2016
To me the issue is not the speed at which the brakes are engaged.

What matters is the way the brake is engaged and the throttle pedal is disengaged.

Think of the laws of physics here!

Newton's first law of motion: An object at rest stays at rest and an object in motion stays in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force aka the law of inertia

Newton's second law of motion: The relationship between an object's mass m, its acceleration a, and the applied force F is F = ma. Acceleration and force are vectors (as indicated by their symbols being displayed in slant bold font); in this law the direction of the force vector is the same as the direction of the acceleration vector.

Newton's third law of motion: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Try it in a video game, a realistic video game. Or try it in a lonely road without anyone around.

Speed it to say 100, then slam the brakes with full force, you will notice that the car with attempt to turn around.

Next thing that happens is the driver is shocked, the braking should slow down the car, but it isn't, the car is now turning around, so he over-corrects, further creating more turbulence in and around the car.

Add to that the inherent instability of 3 good tires and 1 bad one.

That is what many people do and do not live to tell the tell the story.

Give the brake gentle input and also disengage the throttle little by little, not all at once, or all at a go, so you can still control the vehicle.

Then all things being equal, you will live to tell the story.

Which is why the worst wrong to do is to panic!

Most people would never try in real-life certain maneuvers if they tried them out in a realistic car racing game and took note of the outcomes. That such maneuvers will certainly destroy life and limb and property.
Car TalkRe: NHTSA Tested Ford Explorer Platinum Safer Than NHTSA Untested Lexus LX570? by MPVGoddess(op): 9:04am On Mar 08, 2016
Yea, as I was testing the theory are SUVs indeed better than cars aka sedans? I came across the information below.

Summary, an SUV is better (as in safer), but a driver must do all he can to ensure he does not have to use the vehicle's safety devices.

Which Type of Vehicle is Safest: SUVs or Sedans?

Wondering which sweet ride is also the safest? Check out the facts we rounded up to help you make that choice:

Here at Quoted, we’ve talked a lot about vehicle safety, and a simple Google search can uncover piles of info about the crash ratings and safety features of every type of car on the road. But we wondered, when the safety of sport utility vehicles, as a category, are compared with traditional sedans (also as a category, of course) which comes out on top? So we asked the experts: From the top of the line to the bottom, foreign and domestic, new and old, which type of vehicle really protects you and yours best?

BACK TO SCIENCE CLASS

We all know SUVs are larger (and heavier) than sedans, but we wanted to know what that really means in terms of safety. Richard Rowe from TopSpeed spelled it out for us: “Bigger and heavier objects always transfer more energy to smaller and lighter ones. That’s why a golf club sends a golf ball flying instead of just bouncing off of it. The same thing is true for vehicles — only in this case, the “golf club” might be a Ford Expedition, and the “golf ball” a Smart Car.” Rowe clarified, somewhat grimly, that the golf ball-car comparison isn’t quite accurate since cars are hollow containers. Therefore, when an SUV collides with a sedan, the visual looks something more like a golf club hitting an empty soda can: the club will move the can, but only after crushing it first. “That’s why,” Rowe told us, “In any given collision between a car and an SUV, the driver and passengers in the SUV are 4 to 7 times more likely to walk away than the driver of the car.”

The story changes with equally matched vehicles. Two tiny Smart cars carry less inertia, says Rowe, so when they collide, both drivers have a good chance of walking away. The same cannot be said for SUVs, which Rowe described as a “clash of titans.” SUVs are much heavier, and therefore will transfer more energy in a crash, increasing the odds that neither car’s occupants will survive.

THE SAFETY BOTTOM LINE

Rowe says, “SUVs are truly fantastic at protecting kids. Compared to a similarly proportioned but lighter and lower minivan, SUVs are practically armored personnel carriers. And that’s a good thing, since SUVs are more likely to get into accidents than cars.”

To quote another statistic, Jordan Perch from DMV.com reports that a recent study from the University of Buffalo showed that in a head-on collision between a car and an SUV, the driver of the car is 7.6 times more likely to be killed than the driver of the SUV. On the other hand, says Perch, “SUV’s are much more likely to roll over than sedans because of their higher center of gravity, which is an important fact to consider, since rollovers have higher fatality rate than other types of accidents.”

Michael Harley, chief analyst at AutoWeb told Quoted, “It’s always best to choose a newer vehicle over an older model, as advancements in safety technology help late-model vehicles avoid many common crashes due to inclement weather, blind spots, or driver distraction.”

DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS

We wondered if different types of drivers would do better in a certain kind of vehicle. For instance, it seems kids are safer in an SUV, but what about the elderly? Or teen drivers?

Rowe believes that “Both teen drivers and the elderly are statistical human wrecking balls, and very likely to cause accidents. The socially responsible thing would be a compact car with all the best possible safety devices, good brakes and just enough power to safely merge into traffic. But, since self-preservation and the preservation of one’s offspring is kind of a thing for most people: SUVs will offer the best chance of surviving those inevitable mistakes.”

Harley agrees that teen drivers and drivers over 75 are at a higher risk for accidents. For these drivers, he therefore recommends the newest vehicle they can afford since they’re more likely to have the latest safety technology (including collision avoidance systems) and are more likely to meet the highest crash test standards.

Perch believes that elderly drivers fare better with sedans because they are easier to control, especially on turns.


luxury suv on road
Which Type of Vehicle is Safest: SUVs or Sedans?
July 3, 2015
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Wondering which sweet ride is also the safest? Check out the facts we rounded up to help you make that choice:

Here at Quoted, we’ve talked a lot about vehicle safety, and a simple Google search can uncover piles of info about the crash ratings and safety features of every type of car on the road. But we wondered, when the safety of sport utility vehicles, as a category, are compared with traditional sedans (also as a category, of course) which comes out on top? So we asked the experts: From the top of the line to the bottom, foreign and domestic, new and old, which type of vehicle really protects you and yours best?
BACK TO SCIENCE CLASS

We all know SUVs are larger (and heavier) than sedans, but we wanted to know what that really means in terms of safety. Richard Rowe from TopSpeed spelled it out for us: “Bigger and heavier objects always transfer more energy to smaller and lighter ones. That’s why a golf club sends a golf ball flying instead of just bouncing off of it. The same thing is true for vehicles — only in this case, the “golf club” might be a Ford Expedition, and the “golf ball” a Smart Car.” Rowe clarified, somewhat grimly, that the golf ball-car comparison isn’t quite accurate since cars are hollow containers. Therefore, when an SUV collides with a sedan, the visual looks something more like a golf club hitting an empty soda can: the club will move the can, but only after crushing it first. “That’s why,” Rowe told us, “In any given collision between a car and an SUV, the driver and passengers in the SUV are 4 to 7 times more likely to walk away than the driver of the car.”

Heavier objects transfer more energy to lighter ones.

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The story changes with equally matched vehicles. Two tiny Smart cars carry less inertia, says Rowe, so when they collide, both drivers have a good chance of walking away. The same cannot be said for SUVs, which Rowe described as a “clash of titans.” SUVs are much heavier, and therefore will transfer more energy in a crash, increasing the odds that neither car’s occupants will survive.

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THE SAFETY BOTTOM LINE

Rowe says, “SUVs are truly fantastic at protecting kids. Compared to a similarly proportioned but lighter and lower minivan, SUVs are practically armored personnel carriers. And that’s a good thing, since SUVs are more likely to get into accidents than cars.”

To quote another statistic, Jordan Perch from DMV.com reports that a recent study from the University of Buffalo showed that in a head-on collision between a car and an SUV, the driver of the car is 7.6 times more likely to be killed than the driver of the SUV. On the other hand, says Perch, “SUV’s are much more likely to roll over than sedans because of their higher center of gravity, which is an important fact to consider, since rollovers have higher fatality rate than other types of accidents.”

Michael Harley, chief analyst at AutoWeb told Quoted, “It’s always best to choose a newer vehicle over an older model, as advancements in safety technology help late-model vehicles avoid many common crashes due to inclement weather, blind spots, or driver distraction.”

The driver of the car is 7.6 times more likely to be killed than the driver of the SUV

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DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS

We wondered if different types of drivers would do better in a certain kind of vehicle. For instance, it seems kids are safer in an SUV, but what about the elderly? Or teen drivers?

Rowe believes that “Both teen drivers and the elderly are statistical human wrecking balls, and very likely to cause accidents. The socially responsible thing would be a compact car with all the best possible safety devices, good brakes and just enough power to safely merge into traffic. But, since self-preservation and the preservation of one’s offspring is kind of a thing for most people: SUVs will offer the best chance of surviving those inevitable mistakes.”

Harley agrees that teen drivers and drivers over 75 are at a higher risk for accidents. For these drivers, he therefore recommends the newest vehicle they can afford since they’re more likely to have the latest safety technology (including collision avoidance systems) and are more likely to meet the highest crash test standards.

Perch believes that elderly drivers fare better with sedans because they are easier to control, especially on turns.


SAFETY FEATURES FOR SUVs AND SEDANS

So, it seems that like most things in life (except for ice cream: always choose strawberry), there is no simple answer to the SUV versus sedan question: the answer of which is safest instead lies in each driver’s unique needs and situation. Still, our experts were able to offer advice about important safety features for each type of vehicle.

Rowe’s advice for drivers looking at SUVs: focus on the active safety devices. Look for “things like blind-spot warning systems, stability and traction control, adaptive cruise control, or even a radar-assisted automatic braking system like that offered by Mercedes. The idea here is to focus on not getting into accidents in the first place. Odds are good your SUV will survive a crash with anything else in the world — but the rest of the world will survive a bit better if you can keep your SUV from crashing into it. SUV safety is about preventing accidents.” Conversely, Rowe suggests that sedan buyers focus on passive safety devices—things that protect you during an accident: “high crash test ratings, lots of airbags, large crumple zones, active passenger restraints and all the other things we normally associate with surviving accidents.”

Perch emphasized that vehicle size and weight aren’t the only important safety factors. The latest safety features can play just as big of a role in a crash. “This means that a sedan equipped with anti-lock brakes, electronic stability control and side air bags can be just as safe as an SUV and protect its passengers in the event of a crash.

Some final advice, from Rowe: “It’s best to drive a vehicle of the same type as those around you. If you live in an area filled with cars, drive a car. If everyone around you drives a massive SUV or pickup, then you’d better armor up. A Smart Car among SUVs is like a gerbil among elephants: It’s going to get squashed sooner or later.”

And as always, drive safe.

Source: thezebra.com
Car TalkRe: NHTSA Tested Ford Explorer Platinum Safer Than NHTSA Untested Lexus LX570? by MPVGoddess(op): 4:05pm On Mar 07, 2016
The guy was speeding, tried to pass two trucks at the same time using highway divider, hit some road debris left by construction guys and rolled over. Looks like passengers weren't buckled up and were scattered across the road but alive.Big testament to how well the car is built.

This video shows the ejected occupants:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd_ulJCyIWg
Car TalkRe: NHTSA Tested Ford Explorer Platinum Safer Than NHTSA Untested Lexus LX570? by MPVGoddess(op):
SEAT BELTS SAVE LIVES! OR WHY ACCIDENTS OFTEN RESULT IN DEATHS

When a vehicle and all its contents, including passengers and luggage are travelling at speed, they have inertia / momentum, which means that they will continue forward with that direction and speed (Newton's first law of motion).[18] In the event of a sudden deceleration of a rigid framed vehicle due to impact, unrestrained vehicle contents will continue forwards at their previous speed due to inertia, and impact the vehicle interior, with a force equivalent to many times their normal weight due to gravity. The purpose of crumple zones is to slow down the collision and to absorb energy to reduce the difference in speeds between the vehicle and its occupants.[19]

Seat belts restrain the passengers so they don't fly through the windshield, and are in the correct position for the airbag and also spread the loading of impact on the body. Seat belts also absorb passenger inertial energy by being designed to stretch during an impact, again to reduce the speed differential between the passenger's body and their vehicle interior.[20] In short: a passenger whose body is decelerated more slowly due to the crumple zone (and other devices) over a longer time survives much more often than a passenger whose body indirectly impacts a hard, undamaged metal car body which has come to a halt nearly instantaneously. It is like the difference between slamming someone into a wall headfirst (fracturing their skull) and shoulder-first (bruising their flesh slightly) is that the arm, being softer, has tens of times longer to slow its speed, yielding a little at a time, than the hard skull, which isn't in contact with the wall until it has to deal with extremely high pressures. The stretching of seatbelts while restraining occupants during an impact, means that it is necessary to replace them if a vehicle is repaired and put back on the road after a collision. They should also be replaced if their condition has deteriorated e.g. through fraying or mechanical or belt mounting faults.

The final impact after a passenger's body hits the car interior, airbag or seat belts is that of the internal organs hitting the ribcage or skull due to their inertia. The force of this impact is the way by which many car crashes cause disabling or life-threatening injury. Other ways are skeletal damage and blood loss, because of torn blood vessels, or damage caused by sharp fractured bone to organs and/or blood vessels. The sequence of energy-dissipating and speed-reducing technologies—crumple zone — seat belt — airbags — padded interior—are designed to work together as a system to reduce the force of the impact on the outside of the passenger(s)'s body and the final impact of organs inside the body. In a collision, slowing down the deceleration of the human body by even a few tenths of a second drastically reduces the force involved. Force is a simple equation: Force = mass X acceleration. Cutting the deceleration in half also cuts the force in half. Therefore, changing the deceleration time from .2 seconds to .8 seconds will result in a 75 percent reduction in total force.

Culled from wikipedia article on crumble zones
Car TalkRe: NHTSA Tested Ford Explorer Platinum Safer Than NHTSA Untested Lexus LX570? by MPVGoddess(op): 3:18pm On Mar 07, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI0Ymizj5fs

The guy was speeding, tried to pass two trucks at the same time using highway divider, hit some road debris left by construction guys and rolled over. Looks like passengers weren't buckled up and were scattered across the road but alive.Big testament to how well the car is built.

Read more: http://www.clublexus.com/forums/lx-3rd-gen-2008-present/655010-crazy-lx-570-crash.html#ixzz42E7bQk2W

I would also add big testament to the skills of the driver in managing a bad situation
Car TalkRe: NHTSA Tested Ford Explorer Platinum Safer Than NHTSA Untested Lexus LX570? by MPVGoddess(op): 12:43pm On Mar 07, 2016
LEXUS LX570 ROLLOVER WITH SURVIVORS IN THE MIDDLE EAST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9QMwJxWxnU
Car TalkNHTSA Tested Ford Explorer Platinum Safer Than NHTSA Untested Lexus LX570? by MPVGoddess(op):
You all know the tragedy that led to this post!

RIP James Ocholi and wife and son!!

I did some research and found this story!

Behind Fords Recent $131 Million Rollover Judgment from autoblog.com

The headline felt like it must be an old story, one from last decade: “Mississippi Jury Hands Ford $131 Million Verdict in Explorer Death.” But it wasn’t. A decade ago -- almost to the month -- Ford initiated a recall of 6.5 million Firestone tires the automaker felt were contributing to Explorer rollover accidents, yet it is still in court battling claims and paying out settlements.

But don’t get the idea that Ford is paying anyone $131 million. That was a jury award from a Mississippi court, which decided the case in favor of the family of Brian Cole, a young pitching prospect for the New York Mets, who died in a 2001 accident while driving his Explorer Sport. Cole’s cousin, who was also in the vehicle but survived, was awarded $1.5 million.

As is the case in most big personal injury cases, lawyers and plaintiffs settle for a fraction of the actual award. “Lawyers and plaintiffs want their pay day, and if they held out for the whole amount, it could take many years after many appeals are exhausted,” says Sean Kane of Safety Research and Strategies, a Rehoboth, Mass., firm that supplies plaintiff lawyers with research and other services.

While Little Rock, Ark. attorney Tab Turner and his client probably settled with Ford for between $7 and $15 million at the most, the case, and the size of the award, thrusts the history of the Explorer back into the headlines, and at an inopportune time for Ford. The company is in the process of launching an all-new version of the once popular SUV.

Tab Turner has settled more than $1 billion in rollover cases with Ford over the past two decades, and was a major character in a book about Ford’s Explorer cases, “Tragic Indifference,” written by journalist Adam L. Penenberg in 2003.

While Ford is still plowing through litigation and cases involving pre-2002 Explorers, the number of rollover accidents since then have been few, says Kane. “Starting with the 2002 version, Ford lowered the vehicles, widened the track and introduced electronic-stability-control to the SUV, plus it added an independent rear suspension, all of which greatly eliminated the problems associated with the previous version,” Kane said.

That previous Explorer, in fact, was a very different vehicle than the one sold today. It was an SUV that started out life as a pickup truck, with a solid rear axle and a comparatively high center of gravity. This made the vehicle much more prone to roll. To bring an SUV to market as quickly and cheaply as possible, Ford adapted the pickup chassis and stuck an SUV top on it.

Still, that Explorer was the king of the 1990s SUV craze when baby boomers were turning their backs on station wagons and minivans and embracing the rugged Eddie Bauer mystique of an SUV as family car. Ford sold 445,000 Explorers in 2000. Americans have since soured on big, heavy gas guzzler SUVs, and Ford sold only 52,000 Explorers in 2009.

In the case of Brian Cole, the young athlete was speeding, and not wearing a seatbelt. He was ejected from the vehicle when it rolled over. Ford spokeswoman Marcey Evans said he was traveling at over 80 mph. She also said Ford would have won the case had the judge not excluded certain pieces of evidence.

Cole was driving an Explorer Sport, the two-door version, which had a wheelbase 10 inches shorter than the four-door and a greater incidence of rollover than the four-door version. The shorter wheelbase, combined with the same high center of gravity as the four-door, the theory goes, made it even more unstable in accidents.

The old Explorer was unquestionably a problem for Ford, and it appears to be the gift that keeps on giving. It made the company dizzying profits that in its heyday topped $10,000 per vehicle. But the safety record is hard to escape. According to government accident statistics assembled by Safety and Research Strategies, one in every 2,700 Ford Explorers built between 1990 and 2001 rolled over and killed at least one person in the car. The accident figures associated with the Ford Bronco II, the forerunner of the Ford Explorer, are even more frightening: one in 500 Bronco II’s ever produced was involved in a fatal rollover.

Ford always maintained when it went through its massive and costly recall of Firestone tires that it was the tires that caused the rollovers, not the vehicle design. But Kane says that even after the recall and replacement of tires in 2000 and 2001, pre-2002 Ford Explorers continued to have fatal rollovers at a far greater rate than rival SUVs. “In other words, it’s hard to blame the tires when the accidents kept happening after the tires were replaced,” said Kane.

There are, of course, fewer and fewer of the 4 million-plus pre-2002 Explorers on the road, as many have been retired to the scrap yard. Explorer was the top trade-in during the U.S. Government’s “Cash-for-Clunkers” program.

Kane says that those still on the road pose serious problems. “They are older, with rear suspension problems, don’t get maintained as well, and in many cases are going to have cheaper tires on them because people tend to put cheaper tires on vehicles as they age,” he says.

To be sure, there is no connection between that Explorer and the one Ford has recently introduced. Indeed, the new 2011 Explorer is really a crossover, based on the same platform as a car. In fact, its underpinnings have a bloodline to a Volvo S80 sedan. And you can’t get much safer than that.

Clearly then, Ford Explorer has come a long way in the safety department.

From everything that I have read:
1. bad tires ( over inflated)
2. pothole
3. Driver over-corrected
4. Driver slammed the brakes

But there are at least 3 youtube videos of LX570s involved in rollovers in which the drivers and occupants did not die, in one of them, the occupants were ejected

So it is very likely that while the FRSC says its a burst rear tire, that analysis is too simplistic.

It is more likely a combination of factors
1. Driver over-inflated the tires
2. Driver was at high speed
3a. Over-inflated tire burst on its own or 3b. Over-inflated tire hit a pothole or other road object that caused it to explode
4. Driver mismanaged the situation by over-correcting (that might mean swerving instead of holding the steering wheel steady or slamming the brakes)
5. Over-correction resulted in several rounds of somersault, thus ejecting some occupants and putting the woman in a coma and the other occupants with serious injury

Anyway back to the story, which SUV would you rather be in a rollover?

of course, we don't pray for it to happen, but which is safer in such a scenario?

Finally, SUVs are not the safest vehicles

Here is why

Disadvantages of Large SUVs

Many have mediocre crash tests or are untested
Moderate to very high rollover risk
Inferior handling
Inferior braking
May lack the latest safety features
Truck frames deadly to small cars
Truck frames deadlier in single vehicle crashes
Truck frames deadlier in crashes with other trucks
Poor fuel economy and emissions
Difficult to access third row
Smaller rear doors and high step-in height

Advantages of Large SUVs


Good view of road in front
Seat 7 to 9 Passengers
Reasonable seating flexibility
Many can tow well over 2000 pounds
Truck frame good for heavy duty off-roading

Disadvantages and advantages taken from http://personal.tcu.edu/blucas/carstuff/quest/Car-Safety_Org%20-%20SUV%20Safety%20and%20Safe%20Family%20Vehicles.htm

While none of the LX570 appears to have been tested by the NHTSA has very impressive scores for this Ford:
Overall rating : 5 stars

Frontal overall rating: 5 stars
Frontal Driver: 4 stars
Frontal Passenger: 5 stars

Side overall rating: 5 stars
Frontal Driver: 5 stars
Frontal Passenger: 5 stars

Rollover rating: 4/5

So if I were a politician, I would rather get a Ford Explorer Platinum than a Lexus LX570 and also send my driver for Executive Driver Training, OR BETTER STILL use a sedan.

Let's debate...

modified ( Australia's ANCAP test results posted)

TravelRe: Nigerian Nurses And Midwives With The Dream Of Working Abroad Let's Meet Here. by MPVGoddess: 8:49am On Mar 06, 2016
barbiee:
congrats, now you can move to the next level. Which State are you applying to?
Pennsylvania State
TravelRe: Nigerian Nurses And Midwives With The Dream Of Working Abroad Let's Meet Here. by MPVGoddess: 1:00pm On Mar 03, 2016
Update on my case:

Spoke to CGFNS.

The Nigerian midwifery certification has no value to the American Health system

The only thing that has value is the license to practice as a registered nurse in Nigeria.

In their words, that is all that they need.

Thank God.

Am now trying to process the money order for the credentials evaluation because all attempts to pay CGFNS with my Zenith Bank card failed.

So my worries were not worth the trouble in the end.

Thanks dear friends!
TravelRe: Nigerian Nurses And Midwives With The Dream Of Working Abroad Let's Meet Here. by MPVGoddess: 9:13pm On Feb 26, 2016
barbiee:
i think you should let cgfns know of the condition of your school of Midwifery. They will tell you the best route to take. Do you have your course outline with detailed description? If yes, ask if you can provide that as alternative to your transcripts. If no? Ask if you can use your licence and notification letter from Nursing council.
Thanks a million.

I will let you know how it goes
EducationUniabuja 15th To 20th Convocation 26/02/2016 - 27/02/2016 by MPVGoddess(op): 12:32pm On Feb 26, 2016
Let me help you guys on this issue of 15th-20th.

The last convocation was d 14th. And that was done in 2009.

Therefore, 15th is 2010,
16th is 2011,
17th is 2012 ,
18th is 2013,
19th is 2014 and
20th is 2015 (for 2015 graduates).

Hope I have been able to demystify d 15th-20th issue.

Spread this message far and wide!

TravelRe: Nigerian Nurses And Midwives With The Dream Of Working Abroad Let's Meet Here. by MPVGoddess: 4:27pm On Feb 25, 2016
tpiar:
You mean will CGFNS process your application without a transcript? huh

You can probably ask them.
My question is will they insist on both transcripts or can they go-ahead with the nursing transcript only? Will they hold on processing my papers indefinitely because of this issue?

Someone suggested that I cancel the order that mentions the problematic school and create a new order with just the details from the nursing school, so I am confused, and that is basically why i came here - to use one of several lifelines smiley

You provided a valid suggestion, ask them, but i wanted to know if someone has passed through a similar and what they had to pass through so that I would be properly guided
TravelRe: How To Work As A Nurse In US by MPVGoddess: 11:51pm On Feb 24, 2016
KELVIN086:
Is this a joke huh
Not a joke, has happened to a school of Midwifery in Edo State.

The children of the owner are extorting money from ex-students and not even giving them what they need!

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