₦airaland Forum

jrerico1:
Sorry my nose is pointed than yours

ronald4lif:
I'm asking to know if an equal financial contribution is a pact in the feminism treaty and agenda. And a yes or no would have suffice rather than the usual evasive tactics you employed.

Western feminists do share a close or equivalent financial responsibilities in a relationship/marriage as the tradition which place men as breadwinners is no longer efficient. Everyone is a breadwinner and no one is a breadwinner lol. But this is not the case in Nigeria where men are still laden with most of the financial responsibilies and still term the breadwinners by most women. Hence their dependent on men for livelihood.

Apart from my personal anecdotal ordeals, many Nigerians (of both sexes) would agree that most women depends on men for hairdo, special treats, and their general well-being when in a relationship. Yes, they aren't feminists and aren't expected to behave as such but for a feminists like yourself to encourage gender equality in Nigeria without first lambasting this parasitic behaviour and foster the need for women self reliance would be hypocritical and self serving.

My take is there shall never be gender equality in Nigeria until most of the women abandon their leeching mentality on men and strive to becoming independent. No (or very few) Nigerian men would accede to having equal footing with a leech. It's impractical and that's me being pragmatic.

ronald4lif:
For the umpteenth time I'd elaborate again that feminists financial contribution "must" be "equal" to the tranche of the man.

Actually, every woman contributes financially to the running of their homes or relationship.

A lady in a relationship who board a cab with her own money has financially contributed to the relationship or who calls her man for a minute has made her own input. Likewise a married woman who purchase something as little as maggi cubes have contributed.

But for feminists it must be seen as equable or it would invalidate their struggle. Do you concur?. Enough of the back and forth.

ronald4lif:
When you asserted on a thread by a certain stand.d today that Nigerian men are hypocrites and whatnot. With instances on how they can toss sperm on the air but when a woman does same she's tagged a slut. Do you know all Nigerian men?. Come on, be serious and stop this pettiness. I don't have to know every Igbo man to understand that most of us are very money conscious.

ronald4lif:
I agree that most Nigerian men (diaspora inclusive) misconstrue an independent woman as westernised and uncultured. Prolly because she might not have time to cook, wash their clothes and literally become their maid due to her job and exposure. However, there are still men who live with such women and don't deem them a threat to their perceived supremacy.

A woman should better strive to becoming independent and self-reliant and damn whatever a man purview her to be. Life is a solo race. It's her life, isn't it?.

Let's stay thematic - gender equality should be on balance in the financing of relationship and marriage. Anything short of that would be a brazen attempt to shortchange the menfolk and that would invalidate the equality agenda.

Oceanboy61:
Not funny

ronald4lif:
I want to believe you're above this pettiness. Seeking for proof or evidence to give credence to the fact that most Nigerian women leeches on men in a relationship is puerile and please come up with something better.

I don't know when last you were in Nigeria or if you've ever lived there for a lengthy period. I schooled there and I'm a frequent visitor I can tell you for a fact that when it comes to finances it's lopsided and unfavourable to the men. Not even Victoriabee, misssclassy and other of your ilks can refute this claim. Financial responsibility is regarded a man's affair while the women hardly spend. Please let's get serious.

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ronald4lif:
Actually, I have also assert and maintained that I'm for gender equality and I don't deem it a threat as I relate with women daily on equal footings and we're cool. I have been quick to pointing out the contemptuous and unjust attitudes of Nigerian men towards women just like I dig out the irregularities of Nigerian feminists to the bare. Which financial responsibility is prime but madam Chima is tacitly evasive and unforthcoming whenever I highlight it. I'm used to her coy but I remain unabashed.

Velocitron:
It's just amazing how you always un-condescendingly acknowlege others' positions and never resort to name-calling or insults. It's always refreshing to see

ronald4lif:
Yea I did accede that they should thrive to become independent so as to enable them contribute 'equally' financially to the financing of the home before yearning for equable rights. When someone wants something they earn it. How does that correspond with westernization?.

ronald4lif:
Nothing is 'every' or absolute, there are always exceptionalities. But a large percentage of Nigerian women deem a relationship as an avenue to fulfilling their financial needs. Financial gratification is the drive behind a relationship and their leeching games is repulsive.

And to those who contributes it should be equivalent to the man's tranche. Nothing short would be acceptable. Equality should be matched with actions and responsibility.

Velocitron:
It appears you're straw manning his post. Did he say "when Nigerian women seek residence in other countries and gained their own financial and social freedom she has been westernized?" Where did you get that idea from what he said?

ronald4lif:
One of the essence of having feminism debates is to enlighten more women why they should enjoin the movement and likewise for anti-feminists. They might not support feminism but with the right drive and persuasiveness they could have a rethink and Nigerian feminists themselves are yet to admit sharing equal financial responsibilities in relationships and marriage is enshrined in the equality treaty. They're usually passive whenever the issue is raised for deliberation and I find that suspicious.

ronald4lif:
Spot on. I've always assert that for gender equality to become an actuality more Nigerian women need to start thriving hard to become independent and self-reliant just like the men. I understand that in a patriarchal setting like ours men would always want to maintain a grip in most lucrative sectors and jobs thereby sustaining their dominance on women but the Nigerian woman need to do more.

Independent and hardworking women are abound but still there are many who just lay-back expecting a man to bail them out of their pressing needs. The first thing an average Nigerian lady think of after uni is marriage without any financial backings or savings to her name. How do they expect men who grew up knowing themselves as superiors respect and not lord their decision over them. The should be a mental revolt for the Nigerian woman to desist from depending on men.

AgapeCharis:
[color=#27408B]Hahaha

You're going round unnecessarily. Quotes made from just someone somewhere is inconsequential to the idea of feminism. But when this quotes are from frontliners especially when they channel the statements to feminism, it is paramount for their mates to call them to order as those quotes tends to distort the gospel of equality. But why should they when deep down within them, they don't really see anything wrong with it.

Feminism is a movement. More or less an ideological body. More reason why the ones that knew(to you) what feminism should be should have come out to criticize those comments so as not to misconstrue what they stand for. For the vile comments from some men regarding females, it's not like they are portraying the idea of a particular body. It's their own opinion and it has no influence whatsoever on how other male folks see the female gender. You can't say same for those quotes. [/color]

Velocitron:
No true Scotsman, much?

ronald4lif:
That I don't accept wholly the feminism idealogy makes me a contradictory male?. Tryna play the victimisation poker which is synonymous with your ilks, aren't you?. I'll only enjoin the gender equality crusade when Nigerian feminists and members of their genders start taking up their personal bills and contributing equally in the financing of a relationship/marriage.

Their counterparts abroad match their words to actions without sentimental objections. And lest I forget, no omore preferential treatments because "I'm a woman" dictum. In equality everyone receive equal adulation.

AgapeCharis:
[color=#27408B]Hmmmm! This one that's taking a whole lot of time to write. Hope it's not the type that'll wound me? [/color]

AgapeCharis:
[color=#27408B]Hmmmm! This one that's taking a whole lot of time to write. Hope it's not the type that'll wound me? [/color]

damonvamp:
Mrschima the jobless housewife. Always on this thread and always talking out of point

Lazy woman
Shm

ronald4lif:
That madam stubborn ehh. We suppose clip her wings walahi.

AgapeCharis:
[color=#27408B]You quoted me and typed nothing.[/color]

ronald4lif:
I've handed over MrsChima to you. Keep whooping her ass wella.

Truckpusher:
*Tiptoes into thread*

AgapeCharis:
[color=#27408B]Hahaha

You're going round unnecessarily. Quotes made from just someone somewhere is inconsequential to the idea of feminism. But when this quotes are from frontliners especially when they channel the statements to feminism, it is paramount for their mates to call them to order as those quotes tends to distort the gospel of equality. But why should they when deep down within them, they don't really see anything wrong with it.

Feminism is a movement. More or less an ideological body. More reason why the ones that knew(to you) what feminism should be should have come out to criticize those comments so as not to misconstrue what they stand for. For the vile comments from some men regarding females, it's not like they are portraying the idea of a particular body. It's their own opinion and it has no influence whatsoever on how other male folks see the female gender. You can't say same for those quotes. [/color]

Phikom:
Keep wallowing...