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ify2016:
I support Pope appeal to Christians. We should not discrimination over one another in the name different sexual orientation.

Live and let's live should preoccupy our daily thinking as a christian.
Apology and love are only what gays want and not assault or discrimination.

Just my own opinion

Well it's unfortunate that your own opinion is the bid of the devil.
The bible expressly states that there should be no communion btw light and darkness.
And "Love not the world, if any man love the world, the love of God is not in him".

I suggest you stop preaching love in your own worldly(devilish) opinion. What the bible wants from u is to rebuke and dissuade the sinner from his iniquity. Not romancing them and making them feel comfortable with their sins. When they die in their iniquity and perish, of what use is your vainless love?

The pope u are seeing has fulfilled many scriptural roles of the prophesied false prophet. Pls search and read christian prophesy blogs.

Akshow:
It's obvious that trying to make u see sense in all this is next to impossible cos u are d most ignorant person on nairaland. If u want to compare human sexuality to all d shiit above then I really have no words for you. Read more and cure ur ignorance.

Cure your own perversion. It makes your place a hell of immorality regardless of what religion you are. You cant even greet a male friend without thinking stink.

wilsonreuben:
Just to clarify, the pope did not say it is not a sin, he has only said the church would be wrong to discriminate / condemn them; that should be left for God himself.

It takes the Spirit of God to understand and you have it.

The Pope's blessings shall be yours.

Why not he focus leading the homosexuals to Christ and recounting the consequences of their evil. But here he is making them more comfortable with their abomination. And ur falling for the same enticing words. Look your almost in the trap.

obailala:
There is no doubt that the animosity we have for gays is 100 times more than the animosity we have for fornicators, adulterers, liars, thieves and even murderes. The pope has simply said that just the same way we do not have the right as ordinary men to judge and condemn these set of sinners (liars, adulterers etc), we do not also have the right to judge and condemn gays. It is the emotions of deep hatred and disgust we have for gays that makes a lot of people including yourself not to comprehend this simple statement by the pope.

Yes gays are hated 100 times because homosexuality is the height of wickedness. Sex is supposed to be btw a man and woman. But these people are corrupting the very reason for our existence. If fornication/adultery is a whooping 48%, homosexuality doubles.

Fire makes water to boil. But fire has grades. This is taking corruption and wickedness to a whole new level. And will your justification for it be a recount present corruption.

I ask you if dollar exchange rate is now an uncomfortable 288 naira to a dollar. Are u supposed to assist the dollar to 500 naira. When it hurts u and the economy, except ur a corrupt official/ earning in dollars. Then its ur own greediness and selfpleasure.

franky024:
shut your holes you freaking hypocristes, the holy father never said gay is not a sin. he is only saying we should not descriminate. even christ during sojourn on earth neva descriminated.

Charliparker

You people that keep quoting Christ, have u ever opened the new testaments? Christ came to fulfil his duty with the expectation that you will repent from your sins. Sin is sin only AND ONLY because they all lead to hellfire. But homosexuality is not just a sin but the height of wickedness. Assuming God planned to bring the ENDTIME to its end on 2020, because of this great wickedness and increasing perversion of human nature, he might decide its too far and bring it to as close as 2017.

Fire is fire, but fire get degrees. The higher the fire, the quicker the boiling point.

Achorise:
where you quoted, did you read that God himself gave them over to it,? becos Of sin of idolatry of their past parents. ? most gays don't like how they were born, but they find themselves in something more passionate than they can imagine, do you think been gay is easy? try it you will know it's not possible

Thank God you weren't born that way.So all we owe them is prayers and counseling,
do you thing it's normal for one to have feelings for his follow guy?

I'm not gay, and I will never be.But I have some of them as friends who confided in me, and will stand by them forever.
I love gays but I dislike the act.

Stop deceiving urself. You are condeming urself already.

1 John 2: Love not the world, if any man love the world the love of God is not in him".

And i believe people who found themselves gays were because of poor parental upbringing and/or negative influential environment where the evil spirit possessed them. It's not natural. Only polluted environments, materials, eye viewing caused this.

And you say they dont like it, yet they encourage it and u romance them. Soon u will find urself confessing the same evil.

izzou:
A Christian is a Christian

Nothing like gay Christian

They can go to church for all i care but if they die as a gay, hell straight

Stop sugarcoating sin if you are really a christian

Our goal is to make heaven and help others too, not to help them enter the church

Exactly. And rightly elaborated.

OUR GOAL IS TO HELP THEM MAKE HEAVEN, ITS NOT ABOUT MAKING/HELPING THEM TO ENTER CHURCH.

Lightening:
If christians do not ridicule the thieves, fornicators, looters etc that fill up the churches every Sunday but instead reminds them of God's love and encourage them to repent, then homosexuals deserve no different. It is the same hell all of them will go if they do not repent. That is the Pope's stand point and it correct.

All sin leads to hell. But will you not understand o vain talker that sin has grades. Homosexuality is the height of wickedness. AN ABOMINATION. It is the corruption of human nature. The very things that provoked and pushed God's anger to the limit. Homosexuality rwsults to mass perversion. You cant even stay comfortably with ur fellow male friend because evil thoughts begin to spur.

HurtgenForest:
Why are you like this?

THE CHURCH SHOULD AND MUST CONDEMN THEM.

The bible is very clear on homosexuality; it is a no no.

Just the way fornication, adultery, murder is condemned in the bible so is homosexualism condemned too.

Are you sick this man?

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conspeaker:
HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN IN THE BIBLE "condemn the act not the person" but how many times has he condemned the act... he is just romancing with them..

Wallade:
This pope is a politician; he is tactically welcoming and accepting gays and lesbians into Christianity.

I take that as his personal opinion. Gradually, the respect for Popes will diminish.

localblood:
Some people no get sense oh

Imagine; hate sin not the sinner

Meaning; hate killing but not d killerkiller

Iffahear yawa go dey!

TAKE NOTE: The Bible condemns both homosexuals and homosexuality. And the only way out of such condemnation is repentance. The part of christians is to rebuke, and exhort believers to abstain from all appearance of sin. Whether a christian be hypocrite or no, his duty is and must be to discourage others from sin and ask God for help for his own ways. What are you doing on your part to discourage sin and wickedness?

The bible is clear about the path of homosexuals. Its not the sin that is going to hell. Its the transgressor. Therefore the right thing to do is REBUKE THEM. And that is NOT condemnation as vehemently pragmented by unholy stubborn whoremongers who delight in their sinful pleasures and therefore fight/oppose the truth. As for the pope, havnt u been reading christian prophesy articles? He's actually fulfilling the duties of the "prophesied False pope" who will herald and welcome the coming antichrist before the whole world. ENDTIME IS NOT A JOKE.

..The prophesied false prophet addressing the world again.

Lilbrown007:
Look Who Is Talking Ignorance Is Bad O When U Finish Reading The Bible Then We Will Talk About What Anti-christ Is It will Surprise U That Modern Christianity Is The Anti-christ According To Ur Bible

Pls swallow ur bullshit. There's nothing like modern christianity. It's only a rise in rebellion, immorality, abominations, etc that corrupt believers due to the activities of the antichrist agents.

You dont even knw the meaning of antichrist and your relating it with christianity. Pls swallow ur bullshit again. #Nonentity-Basher. Even a baby christian will teach u common wisdom.

which is almost exactly what would happen in the time of d antichrist. There will b absolute lawlessness.

But the good thing is his/their reign will be only for 7 years. After which they will be wiped away from earth.... to begin their perilous journey in eternity. Then there will be absolute lawfulness established by Jesus the King of kings and his resurrected saints.

urahara:

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otemanuduno
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 2 pet 3:9

ETERNITY is forever. Tink about what ur saying. Is the money or somethings ur enjoying, blinding u from the truth? One day they shall pass away.

Is your pastor among them?
Many christians are losing faith in God because of what their socalled pastors are doing allover the world. And the people of the world stand afar off mocking christianity and God's true word. But this is exactly what the bible prophesied.

Many people are going to church but they dont knw that prostitution, drunkeness, bpyfriend, polygamous marriage, visiting native doctor, backbiting etc are sins. HABA
Many dont even knw indepth of their bible and are thereby carried away with the world's fashion and its strange doctrines. HABA

colossians 3:6 "Be not deceived for because of this comes the wrath of God...."
pls lalasticlala I dont want to hear again that someone renounced his faith because of a false pastor or prophets.

dorox:
But members of The Lord's Chosen do die from these same afflictions, don't they?

You may have been drunk at the time of typing that statement. Pls try again.

Is it a question?
They dont. They are healed and have their doctors report of before and after. Sonetimes its too good to be true. Tgey have to go to 3-5 hospitals before their doctor finally believes.

Tell him to come to The Lord's Chosen where God answers prayers.
Thousands of testimonies abound of those who repeated courses for years but on coming to CHOSEN received instant admission after examination.

Check my posts.

frubben:
We came into this world to change the world but instead its changes us because

Church - Operate as Bank
Pastors - Business men
Bible - Business manual
Congregation - Opportunity
God - Naira bet ( pay tithe of 100 naira get 5k)
Jesus - We have turn to agent
Holy spirit - Assassin ( to kill all enemy)
Mom and Granny - witches



They have turn Christianity into a joke, where comedians and musician crack job about.

The world has changed u. not me. Who's with me? There are a lot of careless statements you've made and very one sided. Only the ignorant, arrogant and scorners will agree with you op.

The world still suffers because the devil is in the world roaming as a lion seeking to devour. Has he devoured your mind?

ogbenibayo:
GBAM..I have always imagined this too..what if he doesn't wants to perish....what if he comes to his senses and repent...How will the world look like. That guy is in control of this world

Its not possible. His has already been judged and all the demons. Moreover, if a man can be so adamant to accept his creator, then the devil who is the father od adamancy, stubbornness and all that is evil.

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Organs:
This bible verse does not answer the question, pls understand the question asked, and if you dont know say you dont know period, and not cause more confusion.

Marriage is btw a man and a woman. Not a man and two women. Ask God for understanding. you need it.

frosbel2:
There is a big difference between sleeping with an unmarried woman and marrying an unmarried woman, you are confusing the two.

Dont giv me this absurd response.

I asked a simple question. What do you call a married man sleeping with an unmarried woman?

If you are still confused please download google search engine or in lay terms, type define adultery.

frosbel2:
Now you are adding to the word of God.

Scripture says that Adultery is either sleeping with another mans wife or vice versa , or lusting after another man's wife or vice versa. Scripture is quite clear about this, yet you religious people like to add your own legalistic interpolations into scripture.

Stop adding to the word of God.

Then what do u call a married man sleeping with a non-married woman?

mtchew frontpage nonsense

greatbrian:
Great words...... Buh I wonder y religion should be a defining factor in nigeria
I dnt believe in religion I only believe in God................. Let's see if the religion diff starts on nairaland by dz article making front page

Religon is a set of guided principles. And God is a principled God. Therefore those who dnt acknowledge religon acknowledge lawlessness and are on their path to athiesm or cultism.

Abeg Op deserves frontpage oo o. cc lalasticlala seun.

pee777:
Will u throw away the bath with the baby? God is love and not amadiora, Christ died even for the worst offenders. Christ also died for the polygamist mind you, if he had taken wrong steps by having multiple women bearing children for him, he now need to show more love by ensuring non suffers after he received Christ rather than the feel of guilt and condemnation that can even lead him to more mistakes. What did Jesus told d woman caught in adultery? If they did not condemn you neither have I, go and sin no more. Putting away d wives n children can even lead to more danger for them. God is not a task master as the pharises and saduces of our generation had made us to believe.

The right thing to do is he will dilute the illigal marriage.

Nevertheless, It is also his duty to take care of them and lead them to Christ. And if they accept d truth, there wil be peace.

idefua:
The man that has only one wife before he gave his life to Christ, is saved because of his faith in Christ Jesus. Also, the man with more than one wife got saved because of his faith in Christ Jesus. Salvation is a free gift from God and not by good work. Read Romans 4: 1 to the end.
Only the Holy Ghost can direct the polygamous man that has just received salvation on what to do.

But in this generation we find many false and worldly pastors directing converts instead of the Holyghost. smsh.

achorladey:
My study of the Bible taught me that God
does not approve of polygamy. (Genesis 2:18-24; Matthew 19:4-6) In his eyes, only my first marriage was valid. So I legally registered this marriage and
dismissed my other wives, arranging for their
material needs to be met.

Larrytorch, Jay542, frosbel2, ettaetta

That was from one of the horse's mouth.

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[quote author=frosbel2 post=46798102]Polygamy is not adultery, lol.Adultery is stealing another man's wife or another wife's husband. None of this has happened in Polygamy because they remain legitimately married.Your write up is based on fiction. [/Quote]
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Chai when will you grow sense?
Adultery means sleeping with someone outside your legal marriage not necessarily with another married person a.k.a defiling a marriage.

achorladey:
My study of the Bible taught me that God
does not approve of polygamy. (Genesis 2:18-24; Matthew 19:4-6) In his eyes, only my first marriage was valid. So I legally registered this marriage and
dismissed my other wives, arranging for their
material needs to be met.

Larrytorch, Jay542, frosbel2, ettaetta,

[quote author=frosbel2 post=46798102]Polygamy is not adultery, lol.Adultery is stealing another man's wife or another wife's husband. None of this has happened in Polygamy because they remain legitimately married.Your write up is based on fiction. [/Quote]

pee777:
You have said it all. ROM 8:1 ...no condemnation to them that are in Christ.

Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid.

For so many christians, their problem is the worldly churches they've been attending.

frosbel2:
Let us apply your logic to scripture and remember even Paul referred to scripture ( not the new testament ) as ;
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness," - 2 Timothy 3:16

Now , in the so called New Testament, Jesus said that the only reason why Moses permitted divorce in the ancient days , was due to the hardness of heart of his people in the context of divorce. It was never about marrying another wife , it was about putting away a wife or wives. There is no other reason Jesus gave in relation to their hardness of heart, like marrying multiple women for example.

The Bible says that God does not change, in other words he expects the same standards from ALL mankind whether they lived 1 million or 10 years ago.

Using your logic we can call David, Jacob, Abraham and many others SERIAL ADULTERERS because they married MORE THAN ONE WOMAN, yet God never condemned them, in fact he called them righteous and loved them. David was condemned and punished for adultery not because he had many wives but because he slept with , and impregnated another man's wife and then had him killed. Solomon was not condemned because he had many wives and even concubines, he was condemned and punished because he married heathen women who took his heart away from God. None of these great men were told to drive away their other wives and remain with the first one.

The suggestion that a man who has 4 wives should get rid of the later 3 with their children is unscriptural, evil, wicked, mad , stupid, devilish and not from GOD at all, it is a figment of imagination in the minds of MOG followers who stick to the words of their pastors and their warped interpretation of scripture, without reasoning things out for themselves.

I personally have ONE WIFE and would not marry another purely because more than ONE WOMAN = STRESS AND TROUBLE and increased Financial commitment in this modern time, not because I can't !!!

So we can also go on to murder our enemies as David, Abraham etc did to theirs.

O boy you need mental lashes.

You are no different from the athiests that call God evil and unscrupulous for this and that reasons. Not that God is evil, but he's so holy that his requirements, to you is a mountain of plague. Take panadol xtra.

buharisbae:
Christianity has been bastardized in Africa smh! no wonder Mr seun choose to be an atheist

Whoever chooses to renounce their faith because of the deeds of bastards, should mark themselves as BIGTIME F00LS, and very ignorant.

Wasn't it clearly stated and prophesied about the endtime??
"And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many." Matthew 24:11
And then continues immediately "Because iniquity shall abound the love of many shal wax cold".

iniquity- deceptions, hypocrisies, betrayals, etc.

DO YOU HAVE AN EAR? Please hear what the spirit says unto the churches.

ettaetta:
i dont really understand ? If a man has multiple wives before he becomes a Christian, what is he supposed to do? Divorce others and marry only the first? Dont forget divorce is a sin

Only the first woman is your wife and approved by God. You are commiting adultery with the rest matthew 19:9 because God did not approve it. They are not your wives. WIVES is not in God's dictionary.

They will return to their father's house and wait till a suitable person comes. The converted man can still fend for them and the children till they are well-settled.

Its a mistake that has to be undone.