₦airaland Forum

agaugust:
No maximum ceiling is confirmed for CH-3 drone on internet. Manufacturer has classified it. Most reputable military websites are silent on the maximum ceiling .

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1378

If the writer of that blog did not have any information about it ceiling at the time of publishing does not mean other sources won't.

The maximum ceiling of CH-3 is 6000m
Wiki put it at 4km.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASC_Rainbow

Umkhonto will kill it dead

Finish and Klaar.

agaugust:
The NATO navies that exercised with SAN were training your incompetent fools in your navy that has ZERO combat experience in 70 years.

Nigerian navy exercises with NATO and they know our navy has war experience from Biafra war to Liberia to Sierra Leone to Niger Delta.

http://thenationonlineng.net/navy-hosts-multinational-sea-exercise/

Nigerian navy did the only Naval amphibious assault in African history on a scale bigger than what Britain did in Falklands war.

Bwahahaha… where was your obsolete Grandfather Arandu?


Oh!!! I didn't know Biafra and some poor Sierra Leone rebels and pirates in Niger Delta had frigates and submarine to test your navy.

agaugust:
Ask your Southie friends who claim Umkhonto will stop an F-7 missile fired on a Super Lynx.

Your F7 is handicapped.

agaugust:
Does South Africa have the American Raytheon SM-6 missile you are quoting here? No.

Case closed.

BWAHAHAHA… SA IS THE FIRST TO INTRODUCE THE COMPLEX TECH OF SAM MISSILE THAT CAN LOCK ON TO OTHER MISSILES AUTOMATICALLY AND SHOOT AT THEM DOWN. UMKHONTO MISSILE CAN DO THE PIONEER OF SM-6 YET THEY ARE BOTH NOT CALLED ANTI-MISSILE MISSILE. YOU ARE STILL BACKWARD WITH TECHNOLOGY.

From manufacture:



http://www.deneldynamics.co.za/products/missiles/air-defence-missiles/umkhonto

I quote:

The missile ishigh-velocity and infrared homing, providing all-round defence against simultaneous attacks from missiles and aircrafts. Although, this is a surface to air missile, it is also capable of taking out stationery surface targets. The Umkhonto was designed with a 23 kg warhead for High-kill probability, unlike other SAM missile systems in its class. Quote closed.

Umkhonto kills other missiles as proven and tested.

Case-closed.

agaugust:
Tell me about SANDF ancient 1950 to 1980 equipment still in frontline service :

1. Dakota MPA
2. Ratel IFV
3. Olifant Mk1 tank
4. Casspir MRAP
5. Samil vehicles
6. Batleur rocket launcher
7. Cessna aircraft
8. Warrior class patrol boats
9. Recoilless anti-tank gun
10. Vulture drone

That's ten different obsolete junk equipment in your arsenal, yet you pick on other people's old weapons, you have tons of them too

All.of the list above is still in service and what I.like the most is that they are all not complex tech such as equipments used by navy and air force.


With Nigeria is total disaster since navy and air force which use complex technology is affected.

Bwahahaha… CH-3 has only maxim ceiling/altitute of 6km and cruising ceiling height of 5km. I can feel for it already.



http://www.popsci.com/did-armed-chinese-made-drone-just-crash-nigeria

agaugust:
Nigeria has reserved anti-submarine capability on Lynx helicopters and NNS Aradu itself having her ship sonar and torpedoes.

South Africa has been proved to have submarines but zero anti-submarine capability.

If you send submarines to threaten a country, you also miss the use of that submarine in you own home, travelling far to attack leaves you exposed at home with less defensive capability.

The size of the navy you attack with submarine, actually matters, for example Nigeria has the biggest navy in Africa with about 400 vessels.

Too many platforms are available to Nigeria to hunt and sink a submarine, it is delusion and ignorance for a South African diesel-electric engine submarine to be called elusive.....only a nuclear power engine submarine can be truly elusive.

Diesel submarine will be forced to snorkel in 2 days or else battery power dies and it will sink to sea bottom.

With powerful coastal radars, coastal TV cameras, ATR-42 surveyors, Beechcraft 350 ER, Diamond ISR aircraft, armed CH-3 drone, armed stealth Catamaran IPV with echo sounder underwater object detectors, armed high speed ocean interceptor with radars and FLIR, Alpha jets and Mi-35 helicopters.....your snorkeling submarine will be found and killed after 2 days underwater, it must part-surface to snorkel and death will came that hour !

It's hard to fight a major African power like Nigeria, it's very hard, Nigeria has too many things to throw back at the enemy.

SAN has fully Anti Submarine Warfare capability and Nigeria has none. proven here on Nairaland.

iblawi:
See this dull guy.
Mi35 is not a French machine. You just don't know anything other than to post nonsense.

I tried to modify it to Russia but the servers were down and kept on crashing.

iblawi:
Your source said they saw two. They didn't say Nigeria has 2. Dey were surprised because the Americans didn't know we have it until dey saw it.
We don't snap pics with equipment or even make them public cos a lion need not prove anything to a dog.

Attach a source from Sipri and stop making noise. Many source I provided said there were only two and that number was reduced to one.

agaugust:
All Mi-35 owners have legal right to service it at home if they have engineers, upgrade is allowed if they have experts.

SA just got commercial licence to do the work as profit making venture, that the difference.

Nigeria services her Mi-35 at home with our own NAF technicians, and we fabricate some spare parts locally for it.

Nigeria has no licence and training to service any French machines let alone to acquire the parts.

agaugust:
SIPRI records 5 CH-3 drones sold to Nigeria, insider sources from MoD say we ordered 10 units.

Attach the source because most sources so far tell of only two drones.

iblawi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qjs_CXd-QY

Haters look at the CH-3 in this video. At 1:15.

There was only two CH-3 in Nigeria and now it means there is only one left after another crashed or either shot down by Boko Haram.

iblawi:
Low availability of what?

We currently have more combat aircraft and pilots than South Africa. So what is the low availability about.

He didn't even mention F7. If 3 F7 crashed of of 15 we still have 12.

have you even asked how many gripen jets do we have and how many hawks jets do we have.

SA has 26 gripen jets with full service plan from our local SAAB and 24 hawks jets while Nigeria has only three F7 jets. Is that what you call more?

Lezzlie:
South Africa isn't a pioneering member of BRICS. #fact.


She also does not have the political muscle to get her weak ass involved in Ukraine. Give me facts or burry your sentimental dimwitted moronic asses in shame.

Stupid idiotas.

What is a pioneering member of BRICS if I may ask and how is it different from SA that according to you play much lesser role?

You really coin all this new terminologies that do not really exist.

all4naija:
SA workers are only richer than Nigerian average. Our big shots get some of the highest pay. Please, go and tell your primitive Zulus that not a civilized person like me.

The fact remains, South Africa pay far better salaries than Nigeria. That is why all your teachers and doctors come here to look out for jobs. SA pay high salaries and even our president is the forth most highly paid president in the world.



http://www.702.co.za/articles/2066/jacob-zuma-is-the-world-s-4th-best-paid-leader-says-cnn

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2015/03/13/president-jacob-zuma-is-the-fourth-highest-paid-president-in-the-world.

JUST A FACT THAT CAN NEVER BE DISPUTED.

Nigeria's F7 jets have never, will never and can never fire missiles throughout its history.

lionel4power:
only nuclear submarines are threat to us. Diesel, gas or electric boats will die under withering fire from 15 alpha jets, 15 albatross, 15 mb325 jets, 4 CH-3 missile armed drones guilded by ATR-42MPA.

WHAT ABOUT YOUR THREE CRASHED F7s WHICH WAS PART OF 15 YOU ORIGINALLY PURCHASED?

you are missing the point that your air force as confirmed by your chief, just like navy your air force is suffering from a chronic LOW AVAILABILITY disease.

DictatorZAR:
Tested against the best target drone in Africa SKUA.

NIGERIANS ARE STILL BACKWARD IN TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY, THAT'S WHY THEY WOULD ALWAYS ARGUE WITH IGNORANCE.

iblawi:
Tested against what? A low cost Ariel target system. Mumu.

All missiles are tested against preferably drones to simulate aircrafts and missiles. Do you by any chance think that missiles are tested against a real fighter jets with pilots on board? You must be kidding me.

RAYTHEON SM-6 (STANDARD MISSILE) IS CATEGORISED AS AN SAM BUT IT CAN SHOOT DOWN BALLISTIC AND CRUISE MISSILES, SAME AS UMKHONTO MISSILES. AGAUGUST DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING LIKE THIS, RATHER WOULD EXPECT THE MISSILE TO BE CALLED ANTI-MISSILE MISSILE. IT IS REALLY UNFORTUNATE THAT THIS MAN DOESN'T MOVE WITH TIMES.



http://breakingdefense.com/2015/08/sm-6-can-now-kill-both-cruise-and-ballistic-missiles/

UMKHONTO MISSILE PROVIDING AN ALL ROUND 360 DEFENCE AGAINST AIRCRAFTS, CRUISE MISSILES AND SEA SKIMMING MISSILES. AS PROVEN AND TESTED. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SPEED, ONLY HAS MORE TO DO WITH WHERE IT MEETS OR ENGAGE THE TARGET.

agaugust:
Umkhonto missile is an anti-aircraft missile NOT an anti-missile missile. It was only tested against a slow speed Skua drone, never tested against a supersonic speed target, or small target, talk less of a high speed missile.

Even a NAF F-7 jet has same speed as your short leg Umkhonto missile that cannot run long enough or fast enough to catch up with an F-7 jet.

Keep fooling yourself .

Umkhonto missile is a multi purpose SAM. Call it the way you want because it can shoot down missiles as well and it has been proven. It means you still don't know the capability of umkhonto missiles.



Bwahahahaha… missile is not a jet and exactly the one that has the same speed as that of a jet will tear it apart. Remember, missiles runs at full speed as immediate and jets being controlled by human will not.

agaugust:
Msauza is a born mumu .

"China's sale to Nigeria of CH-3 UAVs armed with AR-1 missiles was revealed recently when one of the aircraft crashed in late January, apparently during a sortie against the Boko Haram militant group in the northeast of the country."

http://www.janes.com/article/49455/update-idex-2015-blue-arrow-9-further-expands-chinese-uav-weapon-options
.

There were only two CH-3 drones in Nigeria, one crashed and only one is left.

iblawi:
See this guy NNS ARADU NNS CENTENARY NNS THUNDER NNS UNITY NNS OKPABANA NNS AMBE etc. DO THEY LOOK LIKE BOATS

MORE THAN HALF OF YOUR SHIPS ARE DOWN INCLUDING YOUR GRANDFATHER ARANDU.

Reason why the SANDF support operations can never be looked as military by nature.


http://citizen.co.za/699456/sandf-no-longer-part-of-operation-fiela-mapisa-nqakula/

iblawi:
You are getting rid of 10000 defence force members. Cos they have no use except to snap pictures.

What is the size of your military? < 50000 - 10000= 30000+ mumu.

Your military is truely local.

The size of military is 100 000 including reserves.

Do you even take words that are being said by an interviewee outside defense seriously? He simply made an example, don't make his words those of SANDF.

iblawi:
30% of our vessels is still far more than what you have. So stop posting nonsense.

Bwahahaha… The question is will your small boats stand submarines and frigates?

I doubt.

iblawi:
The once Your source saw. I posted the 1 from chief of army staff saying we have enough.


If we become a local power then the budget we now have is enough, although we will have to get rid of at least 10000 defence force members, with the defence industry all but dying.

Stupart agreed that a lot of SANDF equipment had to be replaced.

You were referred to as a regional power about to go local

http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/2015/09/15/SANDF-goes-shopping

SANDF WILL SURELY GO SHOPPING.

agaugust:
"Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula is on a window- shopping tour to the UK, attending one of the world's biggest military and security equipment expos."

Window shopping according to the report.....that means wasting your country's money travelling overseas to just look at weapons that can be easily viewed at home on the internet.....ANC is robbing South Africa.....your leaders bought one Super Lynx patrol/rescue helicopter for $ 40 million same price as an ATR-42 Surveyor ISTAR/MPA/AWACS aircraft

RSA...Mumu nation of thieves.

SANDF WILL SURELY GO SHOPPING SOON.