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90 percent performance.

BAT is repositioning Nigeria on a different route from how we used to have it.

I see hope rather than despair

Exceed15:
I just dey happy say APC supporters are not exempted form shege banza. U destroyed the economy you are inviting investors to invest.

Olodo, do you think any foreign investor will come if you undervalue the dollars they are bringing.

Go to school, you said no, now you are disgracing your lineage on a public forum.

flexlatifa:
CHAII i have just wasted my destiny in NIGERIA no house,no car, no investment. will i complain to my children that its bad leaders that caused it?

Check yourself and stop blaming Nigeria for your woes.

Take full responsibility.

politicoNG:
https://www.channelstv.com/2023/09/06/you-cant-interrupt-court-tribunal-scolds-apcs-lawyer-who-complained-after-eight-hours/

He did not ask the court to be brief.

The Justice asked for the lawyers to respond to the judgement so far. He felt that was the end of the judgement and he observed that they have not dismissed or granted the relief sought.

The Justice then pointed out that the Judgement was still ongoing and he apologised.

I watched it live.

Abufarmer101:
They should just accept their fate and move on. After all their candidate is still eligible for the next election. Make the hustle continue........

If he contests again, he will lose with a wider margin.

A bad product is never sellable

fergie001:
Previous Thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/7831023/25-fct-tribunal-dismisses-lp#125623553

Awon werey

greenandy:
4. The tribunal said President Bola Tinubu was not convicted because civil forfeiture is not a criminal matter.
Abacha's son was not convicted by a criminal court before Justice Airowoola ruled that forfeiture of money or property can only be an outcome of a crime committed.
Ridiculous judges.

Go to school, you wont listen.

Abacha's son case happened in Nigeria. He was subjected to Nigeria law.

Tinubu's forfeiture happened in the United States, and Nigeria Court must rely on the interpretation by the authorities in the United States. The US authorities said Tinubu was not criminally indicted. And the case was in the civil registry of Illinois,Chicago.

So, you are suggesting that the Nigeria court should forcefully make that a criminal case, when the US where it happened said otherwise.

And do not forget, the Tribunal Judge said according to Nigeria constitution, after 10 years of conviction, you cant use such conviction against that person. Which means if Tinubu was even convicted, You could not use that to nail him.

Get sense, Ogbeni.

honestivo:
These judgements are contradictory to precedent judgements they can't stand the test of law

Just cite one example please

chokekachy:
https://punchng.com/tribunal-dismisses-eus-report-on-2023-elections-tendered-by-obi-lp/

Funny Punch Newspaper. If Atiku tendered the result and it did not help Atiku, tell me how it would help Obi.

Atiku and Obi are born losers.

lexy2014:
sorry, how is that related to the questions and how does it answer the questions?

the G20 summit is scheduled to start on the 9th. Tinubu who doesnt have a stake in G20 was already there since yesterday the 5th. those that have a stake in G20 are still at home behind their desks doing their jobs. Tinubu left his job to go sit in India for 5days in the name of "looking for investors".

pls how does a president "look for" investors?

are the countries who are supposed to be at the G20 summit not interested in investors?

how come they arent all in Inida "looking for investors"?

what is the job of Nigerian Investment promotion council?

Ogbeni, he is the President, he can use his clout as he pleases.

Has he broken any law by going to India?

If he has not, stop disturbing us and let us focus on all this gbas gbos taking place in the Tribunal

APCnaPDP:
This is the worst part of the ruling. So, a yahoo boy can come back and become president. Just baseless. Feels like a dagger through the heart of anyone who loves this country.

It is not. It is the position of the constitution.

US constitution own is worse. Someone in a prison, serving terms, can contest for an election and be declared winner. This loophole is what Trump is riding on right now

Law is law

spagettiluv:
according to the law,after 10yrs of hushpuppy dishonesty,he can contest for president

Yes. Thats the position of the law as stated in the Nigeria constitution.

lexy2014:
the G20 summit is scheduled to start on the 9th. Tinubu who doesnt have a stake in G20 was already there since yesterday the 5th. those that have a stake in G20 are still at home behind their desks doing their jobs. Tinubu left his job to go sit in India for 5days in the name of "looking for investors".

pls how does a president "look for" investors?

are the countries who are supposed to be at the G20 summit not interested in investors?

how come they arent all in Inida "looking for investors"?

what is the job of Nigerian Investment promotion council?

What caused all these tears and gnashing of teeth ?

cjudy:

Drug case and yahoo is now legal and civil crime in Nigeria.

Shame on the Judiciary and those supporting it.

Thank God say una Dey Nigeria, suffer and hunger will finish una.

Below are the real enemies of Nigeria. If the TV stations like, let them use stickers on their face, but let it be shown today that these are the enemies of the good people of Nigeria and Democrary.

At bolded is not legal in Nigeria but you guys relied on a case that happened in the US. And US states that it was a civil case and not a CRIMINAL case. So, you expect the court to ignore that.

Also, let us say he was convicted and sentenced, according to Nigeria constitution, after 10 years, you cannot accuse him based on that criminal conviction.

It is the position of the law and this case, according to US authorities, was a civil case.

inoki247:
But when the US court finally rules about his Certificate in Chicago you will want to share country with US by go getting dere Visa....

Do you know what they call "double jeopardy" in law?

You cannot try a person again on the same charge in law.

Laggafin:
Lol.. this judges are comedians.. democracy now a huge joke with this infested corrupt men in power.. Jackboots should do the needful.. we tired of Demonstration of Craziness

Can you please cite your uninformed reason to call the judges comedians, if you will?

It was detailed.

US embassy didnt find any criminal record on me.

His case was civil in the US.

His forfeiture was done without criminal indictment

And any criminal conviction, after 10 years, cannot be used on a person. Thats the position of the constitution.

Based on these, obi's prayer was dismissed.

At the same time, Obi and Atiku are suffering "caridac attack" in the Tribunal

We warned you guys that the so-called "Software Architect" who claimed to work with amazon was a tainted witness, you guys wouldn't accept.

See, how his testimony was set aside and considered INCOMPETENT by the tribunal - Someone who admitted to be a member of Labour Party, and who had earlier contested election on that platform, coming out as a witness.

Alchemy528:
We all know there's nothing to come on now to prove to us, Peter obi won that's all
Any one that mentioned this post will not like their day

If you know nothing will come out of the tribunal, then why did you guy pin your hope on it?

Pwettylinda:
Goat

I am sorry, I dont join issue with chest beater and born-to-lose .

Lost at the ballot box, and losing in court.

The tribunal judge was even lecturing your silly lawyers the meaning of "shall". Its that low for you guys

Obi's petition was extremely disgraceful.

I will be shocked if the Tribunal does not award a cost against him for wasting the time of the court

Rumundele:
I am not wasting my time watching any PEPT, we already know the outcome.
I will be surprise and same with some Nigerians if the right thing is done.
But as we all know in Nigeria its a crime to do the right thing, we don't expect a system to do the right thing.
I am just resting and expect the outcome as usual.

You made a mistake resting.

If you had watched it, you would have been tracking Atiku and Obi to give them senseless beatings for giving you false hopes.

Their petitions are comical as firmly established by the Tribunal.

Horus:
Bribery

and your fact, sir?

Obi should demand refund from his lawyer.

Easy peasy for APC so far.

They will only approach the supreme court to save face.

DesignMaestro:
It is actually the verdict on Peter Obi and LP's petition that is being read now not Atiku's.

Yes I know. They raised that in Atiku too.

These litigants are jesters. They have no fact to approach the Tribunal.

The Tribunal ought to impose a fine on them for wasting the time of the court.

ReacherSaidNoth:
Buying corrupt judges is nothing to people who boldly tell the opposition to go to court after rigging the election. Anyone hoping for a positive outcome was born yesterday.

I will take you serious if you can point to any part of the judgement so far that you disagree with.

Let us talk on fact and dont be frivolous in your accusation.

I doubt you are even listening to the judgement. So typical!

southsouthking:
Rotten Judicial system.
Corrupt country full of old rickety corrupt people.

I doubt you are watching and listening to the Tribunal Judge

The guy is hitting all the right chords.

Theyoungmaster:
Waste of time!


This PEPT is a waste of time! Damn! In their judgement on APM's petition, they literally said they don't have the jurisdiction to determine if a candidate is qualified or disqualified, that the High court should have handled the case as it's pre election not post election matter.

The major part of Peter Obi's petition is pre-election matter.

For those of you who only see court room in Nollywood, this is how court operates.

The Tribunal must follow the law to the letter, not all the rantings going out there will determine the outcome of the case.

It is trite in law that he who alleges must prove.

They failed to establish their case.

ReacherSaidNoth:
There is not a more hopeless country in the universe.

You want to become a judge in your own case?

Atiku and Obi's petition are being bloodied as I type.

How can you approach the Tribunal without clear cut evidence. The Tribunal Judge was so clear and pointed out the loopholes in their petition.

For instance, Atiku claimed his votes were reduced without citing exact number of votes that was reduced and the pooling booth it took place.
The tribunal said it was too generic, evasive, frivolous and lacks substance.

koiki4bat:
G20 is starting on the 9th you ran there on the 5th even though Nigeria is not a member after 100 days in power nothing to show for. Subsidy gone, economy grounded, naira crushed, graduates don run finish, tried to push Nigeria to war with its brothers in Niger all on 100 days. Olodo rabata baba atole!

If you take a step back, you will realize that you are the olodo here.

For every action, there must an equal and opposite reaction. All you mentioned are consequences to certain actions.

So, always reason before you type.