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zayhal:
It is because I  need illumination on the issue that I have brought it here. My position ( from my understanding of the hadith and scholars' sayings) had been that the munaqabah could unveil only the face to the suitor, and the one without niqab shouldn't reveal anymore than the face and hands she naturally leaves uncovered.
But the problem here is that I realise this position of mine is inferred. I need a more specific justification for this position, probably, a tafseer of the hadith "look at her very well". How much is he entitled to look at?

zayhal:
But Rasullulah (SAw) advised the man who's seeking a wife to "look at her very well", what is there to look at if the veil is uncovered?
please don't get bored with my questions. It's for a purpose and a good one too.

zayhal:
ok, what about a munaqabah, a sister in veil, does she have to unveil for a prospective husband? What if the sister doesn't feel comfortable unveiling?

zayhal:
Jazakumullah khayran
But are you sure the feet are included in those parts that could be seen by nonmahram, any evidence to justify this?

zayhal:
A man who's proposing marriage to a sister in hijab, how much of her is he allowed to see? The face alone, the face and hands? And under what conditions? Both of them alone? In the presence of her mahram?
I brought up this topic because of the way this issue is being taken these days, where we have a brother asking the sister he intends to marry to remove the hijab completely, is this right?

zayhal:
@mybad
It's high time we did something about your bachelorhood. Even though I don't really like internet matchmaking, I feel inclined to come in here.
I have a number of good muslim sisters. If you're interested, mail me.

babs787:
@Mybad

I had to do that so that you would have a look at it and use that to choose your life partner since you are still single . It answers questions on choosing a life partner, your duty towards her, hers towards you, to the community etc

babs787:
Salam

I stumbled on this
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I know Zayal is married and with children too but ayinba who is single isn't in the best position to give words of advise in this issue because although single, i have a wealth of experience in the marriage institution.
Infact, i doubt if I’ll encounter any trouble-training ladies before they are married off to their husbands.

I agree with both of you in the area of not knowing a lady's character until one starts living with her.
I however believe that you cannot be entirely objective in a topic like this since you are both Muslim ladies.
About courtship and dating, it is allowed in Islam except if you don't want to agree with me.
Besides, the world has changed by far and you can't compare the women of the days of the Prophet with the women we have now.
Forgive me but amongst our Hijab wearing sisters you'll even find characters that are quite demeaning.

In my Arithmetic class in high school, a topic called probability states that when you pick one egg from a basket containing 60 bad eggs and 40 good eggs, the chance that you have picked a good one is 40/100 and the remainder is your chance of having picked a bad egg.
Common sense also states that if you don't want to live the rest of your life with a bad wife when you have the chance of making the decision.
Why not take your time in selecting a good woman?
The fact that one is not a perfect person does not affect a choice of partner.

If you would want me to tell you all about my courtship experiences you'll come to realize that i have come a long way with the Hijab and those that adorn themselves with it.
I have not said that there are no Muslim sisters that have emulating characters; I’ve just not been lucky to have them.

Marriage is a commitment and relationship that starts between two parties in this world and will continue Insha Allah in Paradise together.
If a healthy family is sought after in a marriage, then "Deen" should be the first thing to look out for in a woman followed by wealth, beauty, rank, character, compatibility etc.
All these traits cannot be determined without getting close to the Woman.
The Prophet (SAW) even enjoined us to take a good look at the woman if in doubt of her hidden parts, I mean her skin, hair etc. (correct me if am wrong)
It is allowed to see her skin from the elbow region to her fingers.
However, all these should be done with close supervision.

You must remember that the Holy Quran enjoins us to select partners who are good and pure.
"Women of purity are for men of purity, and men of purity are for women of purity "(Quran 24:26)
I do not support the idea of "sampling" but i don't see how the mere sights of a woman portrays her personality.
The hijab, i respect so much but i have since met women who have rubbished the image of this sacred clothing and am left to wonder what else to seek for in a woman if i don't get to know her well.
The details of my experience i will not bore you with, but i assure you that even as am not a perfect person.

I am objective in my decisions and tender in my ways.
I have never at any time entered into a relationship that i didn't see a future for and my intentions have always been a search for someone with whom I will build a family.
If it has not worked out, it is not because i am imperfect but because i have always pitched tents with those women in the Ummah who seek for nothing but the impossible.

@zayhal

This is how it should be but most of our brothers and sisters today choose the dating route  and when the problems arise, they wonder why. May Allah guide us aright, amin

How do you, Mybad, go about looking for good qualities in a Muslimah. Is it through dating/courtship? I'll repeat again, follow Allah and His Rasul and rest content with what you get afterwards. It is until you start living with a person, before you'D know the true character of that person.

zayhal:
@mybad
Little wonder you said earlier that there's no longer good women in the society. Perhaps you are searching for the impossible. Are you perfect or near-perfect yourself? Is it right for a true muslim to go into courtship before marriage? For sure, you won't get any good in a lady who agrees to date you before marriage, because no true muslimah goes dating before marriage!
How would you know if a lady's got all or most of your requirements when you're yet to live together. Even if you court for 10years, you still may not get this! Like every other thing in life, choosing a partner is a risk, and Alhamdulilah, we, muslims are at an advantage because the Prophet has given us the prescription for these things. Du'a, Istikhara.

hughhefner:
am ready to give u 450k,do u game

ayinba1:
@mybad

Are u a true muslim man? And how old are you? I have a few muslim sisters; I promise you nothing more than you would be doing what is pleasing to Allah if you choose a mate from among the ummah, you have to know that none is perfect.

And what are the major hindrances to our brothers and sisters getting married?

cantab:
Bros,

Where's this car , & whats ur rock bottom, cn we cut d kid f 400k , am in PHC

JJYOU:
sorry gov you are on your own with this one. allah can never know my mind. i choose Christ and His Spirit. i am not under the govt. of your allah. that is a choice. he only knows your heart because you gave yours to him. mine belongs to Christ. i enjoy it that way

olabowale:
@JJYOU: My heart, is known to Allah, the Almighty, alone. So is yours. And everyone's. No exception. I will leave it there.
I will not be unjust to anyone, just because I dislike the way he/she follows. And I will not be unjust to anyone, unwarantedly, just because the person hates my way.

No one says that Islam and muslim should be boring. I laugh, moderately and when appropriate. My focus is singularly; to work hard for the pleasure of God Almighty Allah, from now till the day that I die! In the process, I will make make mistakes. So I will seek forgiveness of all my mistakes, sins, known and unknown!

Ma$e:
what year is this?
can we have pics of the interior?

Greedy woman! She can't do but few gymnastics! The same woman who was concerned about hip problems if the workout is gruelling! Commot for road!

please do not lump Queenisha with Ola, time's past for muslims to be complacent.

You have not seen it in a while doesnt mean it does not happen, It still happens

Sadly, most people have mixed this traditional thing with Islam, As soon as a girl attains Puberty, she is carted off against her will and they say its religious

What does the Quran say about equality between men and women?

conclusions  such as yours are meant for the nonbelieving women, not for Muslimah. I know a lot of muslim women who are exemplary homemakers so this 'out of reach thing' is very wrong.

Features of a True Muslim Lady (Arranged in preference)
1. She must encourage her husband to practice Jihad. i.e. "Honey, when will you go for your shooting lessons?"
2. She must avoid listening to music. e.g. Toni Braxton, Jay Sean, W. Houston and co.
3. She must not smoke cigarette when using the hijab or when not.
4. She must love Allah and Mohammed than her husband.
5. She must not be the girl who loves having boyfriends.
6. She must never engage in fruitless discussions. i.e. Her friends will like to talk about a guy who they may really love but only gossip and speak ill of him by describing his foolishness.
7. She must have a clean bath after her cycles.
8. She must not sleep too much nor watch nollywood when idle.
9. She must not intend to be a gold-digger.
10. She must not for one time think that girls with "Aristos" will ever make Paradise.

down2earth:
I am interested in the carina e with ac, automatic transmission,
do you have pictures?