₦airaland Forum

immortalcrown:
Your opinion is not bad. But your opinion is not appropriate to the post. The post is not about whether the ticket is bad or good. The post is about how those who do not like the ticket can easily defeat the ticket. You respond as if the post is about whether the ticket is good or bad. That is why I told you that you are going off point.

It's not off point but points to buttress my point.
Going by your fear, why didn't you show this fear when he was clamouring for the power to rotate to the South, why did Tinubu insist that for equity, let power move to the South, and yes, for equity, let's power go to Christian, I know he would have presented that login if he was a Christian and his party men would agree too.
Nobody should shy away from saying the truth.
If you don't point that out now, when would you?
In as much as I wasn't gonna bite for him, I still believe that he is being irrational and selfish in his thinking and ambition.

immortalcrown:
When I say people should not complain or cry about the ticket, what do I mean? Do I mean people should insult Muslims? You are going off point. The post simply says the best way to defeat Muslim-Muslim ticket is to avoid making all Muslims see the election as a religious war. Some Muslims do not want APC. But if you Christians keep on condemning the Muslim-Muslim ticket, those Muslims who do not APC will think it is a game against Islam. Consequently, they will change their minds and support APC.

That's your own opinion and my opinion is that the ticket should be balance, one Christian, one Muslim, any Muslim that wants to eat alone is a greedy one which I believe many reasonable Muslims already know.

Shugavee:
I have said my peace o it will cost us

We can either win or lose if we vote for LP but will lose outrightly if we vote PDP or Apc

immortalcrown:
You are diverting from the topic. My post does not encourage people to vote for BAT. My point is simple. Complaining about the Muslim-Muslim ticket is not the best strategy. The best way to fight the Muslim-Muslim ticket is to avoid saying what will likely turn all Muslims against non-Muslim candidates.

Some Muslims are also saying Muslim Muslim ticket. Maybe you should advise people not to insult Muslim but Muslim Muslim ticket will not leave the lips of many people anytime soon

immortalcrown:
My point is that the way to balance it now is to ensure the party that has Muslim-Muslim ticket loses out in the election. The best way to achieve it is to use a strategy that will make many Muslims vote against APC. If you openly condemn Muslim-Muslim ticket, some Muslims that will normally vote against APC will begin to think it is all about religion. Consequently, they will change their minds and vote for the candidate that belongs to their religion.

Nobody is condemning Muslim or otherwise, it's all about balance in a system. If Muslim cannot vote for a Christian VP, what makes think that christian will vote for a Muslim VP? If Muslim from the south is not recognized as a true Muslim then I don't know whatelse to say again

immortalcrown:
I am not an enthusiast of 2023 Nigeria election. But I pay attention to the uproar of the election for two reasons. One is to confirm if some of my notions of Nigeria are right or wrong. Two is to learn new things. Every event or every stage of an event teaches a new lesson.
I have made one observation. Those crying over Muslim-Muslim ticket are, at least for now, the major problem of Nigeria. Are they indirectly saying they must vote for APC whether good or bad? There is a Muslim-Christian ticket and there is a Christian-Muslim ticket. Why are those people crying as if the APC candidate is the only option? Are they under duress to vote for APC? Will they mysteriously die if they vote for another party? If you believe APC choice is bad for your country, vote for another party. Stop using religious war to facilitate the imminent end of Nigeria.

Many Muslims are not even supporting APC at the moment. But your noise against their religion can induce them to support APC. Once you give them the impression that the upcoming election is all about religious interest, they will try to support their own. The reason behind Muslim-Muslim ticket seems to be to persuade all the Muslims to vote for BAT and you are ignorantly helping it to materialize. Silent players are often more tactical and successful than noisy ones.

If your fear is that Muslim-Muslim ticket will potentially reduce votes for your own choice of candidate, the best way to tackle it is to keep highlighting the competence of your own candidate so Muslims that support your candidate will not see you as their religious enemy. Using the competence of your own candidate to downplay BAT will favour you more while condemning Muslim-Muslim ticket will harm you.

nobody is against Muslim instead, a balance, when a system is not balance it tends to tilt one side. for example, every little thing, they will believe that it is because of all Muslim in the authority. things that ordinarily would have been been ignore will be topic of discussion, even the Muslims will be tired of the verbal abuse, even the innocent ones among them. They will be constantly been accused, so, it's always good to have a balance system to give room to sense of belonging.

In as much as I wasn't going to vote for Tinubu. He Should have pushed his luck in being Buhari's vice in this his second tenure, atleast, with power of incubancy he would have been the vice president and therefore gained more control but now, it will be difficult. what Buhari could not do, He thinks he can..

Hmm

Nothing to manage in Tinubu, age, morality,equity and conscience, all zero.

This won't make front page but if it was a tout wielding gun, it will

omenka:
Now they've gone full throttle to display weapon, threatening anyone who dares to vote anyone else but ipOBI Pandora.

This is the height of it.

Are you for real, Some Niger militant did same for Tinubu and by disguise to Obi now. You ain't for real i supposed?

oghalebros:
This Christian Christian and Muslim Muslim thing should stop... What we need is development of the country. We don't care from where and who it comes from. Has a christain, what have you benefited from Osinbanjo as your VP?

It matters alot, this africa where having a male child is highly desired even amongst those that pretend that it doesn't matter. nothing like a sense of belonging and assurance of hope.

Are they no longer applauding him?

Adliperd:
Since u are watching the back of TV. Check the YouTube video.

his comment was conditional, is like saying that you are not good enough else I would have employed

why not play the full video

The man never said that in that video

If PO wins and fails to do something great for Edo and Benue State, he will have alot of explanations to make

only time will tell

Has shettima name been submitted?

IvarTheBoneless:
He will still win. No matter how hard you cry.

Allow me to suggest a way out...

alright then, if that makes you feel good

IvarTheBoneless:
The issue is that Nigeria doesn't need a coward as President.

If Peter Obi can't face Wike man-to-man, as President of Nigeria, he will flee from Aso Rock to Abidjan anytime he hears Boko Haram attack in Borno State.

Nigeria needs a warrior like Tinubu who defied the odds and beat Numbers 1, 2 and 3 + Party Chairman.

We don't want a coward as Commander in Chief that will run away from Aso Rock everytime he hears a loud bang.

Brainless warrior that doesn't know when to retreat. In this religious polarized society, all he intends to do is to disregard them,
so, no credible Christian in the north?

Newsletter01:
PETER IS ANTI IGBO AND NIGERIA!

Peter Obi is one man who is capitalizing on the vulnerability of Igbos to lead his destruction and decimate the Igbos in Nigerian politics.

Peter Obi is aware of our emotional state and victimhood mentality and has decided to bring us down pecking order, just when we are trying to recover from the 2015 and 2019 self inflicted political hibernation.

Looking at the campaign of Peter Obi so far, he is not interested in winning the 2023 Presidential election because he is not a contender, but to drag the Igbos down with him, because the uninformed mind seems to be showing sympathy to his lies and deceit.

His campaign is nothing but a vendetta mission. A diatribe and attempt to profile the Igbos as people wishing to go to war with other Nigerians.

Peter Obi campaign is hinged on hate, blackmail and treachery. A dubious mind pretending to be a messiah.

His recent ego trip which he claimed to be Presidential ambition had seen the Igbos regroup against other zones in Nigeria and threatening war, reason his party, Labour Party and their supporters are easily classified as IPOB secessionists.

It will be wrong for other Nigerians to see entire ndi Igbo as secessionists just because of Mr. Peter Obi jaundiced ambition.

Politics is about alliance and synergy, Peter Obi is not allowing the Igbos build that synergy and alliance in 2023 after we failed in 2015.

Peter is against ndi Igbo! We have a clear chance of producing the Presidency after 2023, but the Dangerous Joke and wicked politics of Peter Obi may deny us another golden opportunity.

Where have all the ones you have been building since 1999 lead you to?

Yamiriflathead:
Yeah definitely
The calabar traditionalist who practiced the killing of twins and called it culture and religion must have been right to practice such despicable act. If Mary slessor hadn't abolished it, folks like you would say it's the exclusive resolve and decision of traditionists to decide who breaths or not. Whether it is right or wrong to kill twins because a certain tradition dictates so is topic for another day.
Thanks for your time and I hope international observers are watching

International observer my foot, you are still a kid, what was Buhari stand on gay, he outrightly rejected it and nothing has happened.
Out of the numerous problem we have in this country. It is gay right your problem?

MetaPhysical:
Are there any more elections between now and the presidential in Feb?

To prove it has capacity beyond twitter and social media, LP should contest these elections to assess its chances in 2023. If it wins it proves its noise online is not empty and should be feared by both APC & PDP. If it fails to record any victory then it is evident as far 2003 is concerned LP is an online chatter, nothing more.

LP vote wisely, they are for the best candidate and not the best political party.
Grow up and encourage the best and not the most popular.
We are out for the best for the best interest of Nigeria. Other localities should vote who is best for them, until that, we will continue to suffer from bad leadership.

Yamiriflathead:
Christianity preaches against nudity, it preaches modesty and that humans be clothed and Claded in modest apparels, would you support the killing of nudists, if a bill were propped up by Christrans asking for the execution of nudists simply because it violates Christianity?
Islam mandates all women to be clothed in hijabs, would you endorse the killings of women who default simply because according to you morality should entirely be devolved to religious people and their adherents?
I believe Mr obis vice was talking from the religion angle as well. Sir, so if ur religion insist that homosexuals should be be killed just as Peter obi vice claims, you would endorse it?

Like I told you, the issue has been laid to rest and you resurrecting it now is born out sinical motive, I don't support gayism and I don't support killing either and regarding Obi's vice opinion about gay people, I don't support him on that one and I will never support him on that but hey, he is the vice and his principal holds a different opinion. I hope that gives you a relief.

Yamiriflathead:
Religion, in a circular country? And Not the constitution?
So if religion suggested the killings of LGBTQs, you would simply fold ur arms and conur? If the views of peter obis vice doesn't fit into your personal ideals, the ideals of the constitution and the overwhelming interest of Nigeria, why shouldn't it be termed wrong?
You're not totally honest about your opinion, there's something hidden beneath but i'll pass

Issue of morality falls under culture and religion, and LGBTQs falls under it

We know that already sir.

Yamiriflathead:
Nice one from you sir, I really appreciate.
So you he was wrong to have suggested the killing of LGBTQS in Nigeria? Yes or No?

How can I pass verdict on him, personal, I wouldn't agree to that and that doesn't mean that I am right or wrong. To me, it's the least of our problem. Religion should take care of it.

Yamiriflathead:
I don't believe in God, now answer my question. Was peter obis vice wrong to have suggested the killing of LGBTQS in Nigeria?

Yeah, not all their policies will be accepted with open mind and that particular was not widely accepted, hence wasn't adopted

Yamiriflathead:
I'm not gay, nor a gay activist and I don't support that gays be executed, I support the constitutions stance as per the conditioning of homosexuality.
What are ur views on the extrajudicial killings of LGBTQ in nigeria as suggested by peter obis vice, and was Peter obis vice wrong to have suggested the killing of LGBTQS in Nigeria?

Alright, that was going too far by my standard and I believe his opinion must have changed by now or he was being sentimental.

Yamiriflathead:
Was Peter obis vice wrong to have suggested the killing of gays during his years as a serving senator of Nigeria?

Before I can answer you, was God wrong to have created human beings, including the wicked ones?

Yamiriflathead:
Yes, but his position surely represents the agenda of his party, and going by the overwhelming support and accolades he's been accorded in support of his stance on the killing of homosexuals online by labor party supporters, can we see his view fits into the ideals and yearns of the Peter obi movement?

When was that statement made? I think you should worry about Atiku rebuttal about his condemnation of the jungle Justice meted on Deborah, or Tinubu total disregard of religion in choosing his vice.
By the way, are you Gay?