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Romance / Re: Nairalanders That Have Lost Loved Ones: How Did You Cope? by mzansiboy(m): 8:37pm On Nov 23, 2023
Samantha124:
There was a time I was like you, I had not lost a loved one and I used to consider myself lucky until death came knocking on the 25th of December 2009... It was my grandfather and he was laid to rest on the 31st of December, his birthday.

I loved that man so much, he was like my second father... Whenever I'd visit, he'd fill the fridge with all my favorite snacks and dairy products... He'd also cook for me whenever my grandmother wasn't around and the man was not such a bad cook.

Well, at least he was an old man and as we were moving on, my brother past away on the 2nd of February 2010 and was laid to rest on the 8th of February... It wasn't easy, I was still young then and I'd sometimes have nightmares... My parents had to move me to their bedroom for a while... The whole thing still affects me even today because whenever I hear that a loved one is sick, I'd panic.

On three occasions I suffered a panic attack in public and it was so embarrassing... First time was at the school of law, I had went there to consult with one of my lecturers when I contacted my sister to ask her about our father because I couldn't get hold of him all morning... When she told me that he was hospitalized, at first I acted calm... But immediately I hung up the phone, I started panicking and one of the lecturers who was passing by noticed that I wasn't okay.

He came to me and asked me what was wrong, but I couldn't speak... He then called the school's principal administrator and together they took me to the administrator's office... They got me a glass of water and tried to get me to calm down and after a while, I was finally able to speak and told them what was wrong... They then asked for my father's contact details so they could call him just to ensure me that everything was going to be fine... He finally picked up the call and he ensured me that he was going to be okay and that I shouldn't worry much.

The second time was back then when my sister had issues with fibroids, sometimes her condition would be so severe, I'd be afraid that I might lose her like I lost my brother... One time I was at the library when I started crying... I thought studying would keep my mind occupied, but I was wrong.

And the last time I panicked in public was at my grandmother's funeral... From the day her death was announced, I didn't cry because I thought she was old and it was her time, but I guess I was just being in denial of her death because all the emotions came crashing on the day of the funeral, I even passed out and woke up in the clinic.

Ever since my brother's death, I'm always afraid whenever someone close to me isn't feeling well... They say time heals all wounds, but as for me I don't know, I feel like I haven't gotten over my brother's death because whenever someone doesn't feel well, I always fear that the person is gonna die like he did.

Wow Sam, I didn't want to respond to this I just wanted you to know that your stories touched me so deeply, I even had tears in my eyes. I hope someday you will be ok and be able to overcome the fear of losing people close to you.

I was in Stellenbosch in 2010 and heard my mom was diagnosed with diabetes and I thought that she was dying, but she is doing ok now and I am relaxed. Thank you for sharing your story.

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Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by mzansiboy(m): 6:48pm On Jul 06, 2023
Kazikazi:
Yes son,I googled and came up with this latest list for Africa's tallest buildings.....

Where do you get your stats?
Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by mzansiboy(m): 4:29pm On Jul 06, 2023
Kazikazi:
The list is too old,I don't know where u copied it.

Egypt is now having almost 100 buildings of a height of 100 metres and above.

It's sad that u are stuck on old reports

Please google and see for yourself. I don't have time to debate it with you.
Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by mzansiboy(m): 6:15am On Jul 06, 2023
Shma2023:

Egypt πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡¬ has more skyscrapers than SOuth Africa πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦.
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African Countries With The Most Skyscrapers 100 Meters Height
There seems to be an explosion of skyscrapers in Africa. In every city you visit, skyscrapers are popping up overnight.…
There seems to be an explosion of skyscrapers in Africa. In every city you visit, skyscrapers are popping up overnight. The increased demand in office spaces across the continent has led to the mushrooming of skyscrapers with some going beyond 100 meters into the sky.

South Africa leads the continent with the most skyscrapers at 54 followed by Egypt which has 48. Nigeria has 14 while Algeria has 13. Kenya has 11, Morocco has eight while Tanzania and Angola have seven and six respectively. Libya has five while Cote D’Ivoire, Ethiopia, and Mozambique have three each.

South Africa – 54
Egypt – 48
Nigeria – 14
Algeria – 13
Kenya – 11
Morocco – 8
Tanzania – 7
Angola – 6
Libya – 5
Cote D’Ivoire – 3
Mozambique – 3
Ethiopia – 3
Skyscrapers in Kenya include Britam Towers at 200 meters followed by Old Mutual Towers at 163 meters. Times Towers is 140 meters. Kings Prism Towers has 133 meters in the sky while Kenyatta International Convention Center has 105 meters. Teposta Towers have 120 meters while Social Security Houese has 103 meters. Kenya Commercial Bank Plaza has 109 meters.

According to Wikipedia, most of the tallest buildings in Kenya are found in Nairobi, the capital and largest city in the country. In Nairobi, there are 18 buildings that stand taller than 80 meters (260 ft), and several are under construction.

When it comes to overall real estate in Kenya, Nairobi, Kisumu, Uasin Gishu, and Nakuru are the most oversupplied retail markets by 3.0 mn SQFT, 0.2 mn SQFT, 0.12 mn SQFT, and 0.09 mn SQFT, respectively, and also expected to increase further especially in Nairobi with the additional spaces such as the Ojijo Properties.

The Kenyan retail sector performance recorded a stable performance with the average rental yield coming in at 6.8 percent in 2022.

Nairobi was the best-performing region with an average rental yield and occupancy rate of 7.8 percent and 75.9 percent, respectively.

The opportunity remains in mid-tier counties that are undersupplied such as Kiambu County and Mt. Kenya region, both having space demand of 0.5 mn SQFT.
Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by mzansiboy(m): 7:52pm On Jul 04, 2023
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Politics / Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by mzansiboy(m): 3:35pm On Jul 03, 2023
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Culture / Re: Coloureds In Southern Africa by mzansiboy(m): 7:40am On Jun 30, 2023
Post-apartheid era

During the 1994 all-race elections, Coloured people voted heavily for the white National Party, which in its first contest with a non-white majority won 20% of the vote and a majority in the new Western Cape province – much due to Cape Coloured support. The National Party recast itself as the New National Party after De Klerk's departure in 1996, partly to attract non-White voters, and grew closer to the ANC. This political alliance, often perplexing to outsiders, has sometimes been explained in terms of the culture and language shared by White and Coloured New National Party members, who both spoke Afrikaans. In addition, both groups opposed affirmative action programmes that might give preference to Black South Africans, and some Coloured people feared giving up older privileges, such as access to municipal jobs, if African National Congress gained leadership in the government. After the absorption of the NNP into the ANC in 2005, Coloured voters have generally drawn to the Democratic Alliance, with some opting for minor parties such as Vryheidsfront and Patricia de Lille's Independent Democrats, with lukewarm support for the ANC.

Since the late 20th century, Coloured identity politics have grown in influence. The Western Cape has been a site of the rise of opposition parties, such as the Democratic Alliance (DA). The Western Cape is considered as an area in which this party might gain ground against the dominant African National Congress. The Democratic Alliance drew in some former New National Party voters and won considerable Coloured support. The New National Party collapsed in the 2004 elections. Coloured support aided the Democratic Alliance's victory in the 2006 Cape Town municipal elections.

Patricia de Lille, who became mayor of Cape Town in 2011 on the platform of the now-defunct Independent Democrats, does not use the label Coloured but many observers would consider her as Coloured by visible appearance. The Independent Democrats party sought the Coloured vote and gained significant ground in the municipal and local elections in 2006, particularly in districts in the Western Cape with high proportions of Coloured residents. The firebrand Peter Marais (formerly a provincial leader of the New National Party) has sought to portray his New Labour Party as the political voice for Coloured people.

Coloured people supported and were members of the African National Congress before, during and after the apartheid era: notable politicians include Ebrahim Rasool (previously Western Cape premier), Beatrice Marshoff, John Schuurman, Allan Hendrickse and Trevor Manuel, longtime Minister of Finance. The Democratic Alliance won control over the Western Cape during the 2009 National and Provincial Elections and subsequently brokered an alliance with the Independent Democrats.

The ANC has had some success in winning Coloured votes, particularly among labour-affiliated and middle-class Coloured voters. Some Coloureds express distrust of the ANC with the comment, saying that the Coloured were considered "not white enough under apartheid and not black enough under the ANC." In the 2004 election, voter apathy was high in historically Coloured areas. The ANC faces the dilemma of having to balance the increasingly nationalistic economic aspirations of its core black African support base, with its ambition to regain control of the Western Cape, which would require support from Coloureds.
Culture / Re: Coloureds In Southern Africa by mzansiboy(m): 6:05am On Jun 30, 2023
Samantha124:
Wow! This is very educational.. Thanks.. smiley smiley smiley

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Culture / Re: Coloureds In Southern Africa by mzansiboy(m): 2:14pm On Jun 27, 2023
Apartheid era

Coloured people were subject to forced relocation. For instance, the government relocated Coloured from the urban Cape Town areas of District Six, which was later bulldozed. Other areas they were forced to leave included Constantia, Claremont, Simon's Town. Inhabitants were moved to racially designated sections of the metropolitan area on the Cape Flats. Additionally, under apartheid, Coloured people received education inferior to that of Whites. It was, however, better than that provided to Black South Africans.

J. G. Strijdom, known as "the Lion of the North", continued the impetus to restrict Coloured rights, in order to entrench the new-won National Party majority. Coloured participation on juries was removed in 1954, and efforts to abolish their participation on the common voters' roll in the Cape Province escalated drastically; it was accomplished in 1956 by a supermajority amendment to the 1951 Separate Representation of Voters Act, passed by Malan but held back by the judiciary as unconstitutional under the South Africa Act, the Union's effective constitution. In order to bypass this safeguard, enforced since 1909 to ensure Coloured political rights in the then-British Cape Colony, Strijdom's government passed legislation to expand the number of Senate seats from 48 to 89. All of the additional 41 members hailed from the National Party, increasing its representation in the Senate to 77 in total. The Appellate Division Quorum Bill increased the number of judges necessary for constitutional decisions in the Appeal Court from five to eleven. Strijdom, knowing that he had his two-thirds majority, held a joint sitting of parliament in May 1956. The entrenchment clause regarding the Coloured vote, known as the South Africa Act, were thus eliminated and the Separate Representation of Voters Act passed, now successfully.

Coloureds were placed on a separate voters' roll from the 1958 election to the House of Assembly and forward. They could elect four Whites to represent them in the House of Assembly. Two Whites would be elected to the Cape Provincial Council and the governor general could appoint one senator. Both blacks and Whites opposed this measure, particularly from the United Party and more liberal opposition. The Torch Commando was very prominent, while the Black Sash (White women, uniformly dressed, standing on street corners with placards) also made themselves heard. In this way, the question of the Coloured vote became one of the first measures of the regime's unscrupulous nature and flagrant willingness to manipulate its inherited Westminster system. It would remain in power until 1994.

Many Coloureds refused to register for the new voters' roll and the number of Coloured voters dropped dramatically. In the next election, only 50.2% of them voted. They had no interest in voting for White representatives β€” an activity which many of them saw as pointless, and only persisted for ten years.

Under the Population Registration Act, as amended, Coloureds were formally classified into various subgroups, including Cape Coloureds, Cape Malays and "other coloured". A portion of the small Chinese South African community was also classified as a coloured subgroup.

In 1958, the government established the Department of Coloured Affairs, followed in 1959 by the Union for Coloured Affairs. The latter had 27 members and served as an advisory link between the government and the Coloured people.

The 1964 Coloured Persons Representative Council turned out to be a constitutional hitch[clarification needed] which never really got going. In 1969, the Coloureds elected forty onto the council to supplement the twenty nominated by the government, taking the total number to sixty.

Following the 1983 referendum, in which 66.3% of White voters supported the change, the Constitution was reformed to allow the Coloured and Indian minorities limited participation in separate and subordinate Houses in a tricameral Parliament. This was part of a change in which the Coloured minority was to be allowed limited rights and self-governance in "Coloured areas", but continuing the policy of denationalising the Black majority and making them involuntary citizens of independent homelands. The internal rationale was that South African whites, more numerous at the time than Coloureds and Indians combined, could bolster its popular support and divide the democratic opposition while maintaining a working majority. The effort largely failed, with the 1980s seeing increased disintegration of civil society and numerous states of emergency, with violence increasing from all racial groups. The separate arrangements were removed by the negotiations which took place from 1990 to hold the first universal election.
Culture / Re: Coloureds In Southern Africa by mzansiboy(m): 2:06pm On Jun 27, 2023
Pre-apartheid era

Coloured people played an important role in the struggle against apartheid and its predecessor policies. The African Political Organisation, established in 1902, had an exclusively Coloured membership; its leader Abdullah Abdurahman rallied Coloured political efforts for many years.[28] Many Coloured people later joined the African National Congress and the United Democratic Front. Whether in these organisations or others, many Coloured people were active in the fight against apartheid.

The political rights of Coloured people varied by location and over time. In the 19th century they theoretically had similar rights to Whites in the Cape Colony (though income and property qualifications affected them disproportionately). In the Transvaal Republic or the Orange Free State, they had few rights. Coloured members were elected to Cape Town's municipal authority (including, for many years, Abdurahman). The establishment of the Union of South Africa gave Coloured people the franchise, although by 1930 they were restricted to electing White representatives. They conducted frequent voting boycotts in protest. Such boycotts may have contributed to the victory of the National Party in 1948. It carried out an apartheid programme that stripped Coloured people of their remaining voting powers.
Culture / Re: Coloureds In Southern Africa by mzansiboy(m): 1:57pm On Jun 27, 2023
In the 21st century, Coloured people constitute a plurality of the population in the provinces of Western Cape (48.8%), and a large minority in the Northern Cape (40.3%), both areas of centuries of mixing among the populations. In the Eastern Cape, they make up 8.3% of the population. Most speak Afrikaans, as they were generally descendants of Dutch and Afrikaner men and grew up in their society. About twenty percent of the Coloured speak English as their mother tongue, mostly those of the Eastern Cape and KwaZulu-Natal. Virtually all Cape Town Coloureds are bilingual.

Genetics

At least one genetic study indicates that Cape Coloureds have ancestries from the following ethnic groups; not all Coloureds in South Africa had the same ancestry.

β€’Indigenous Khoisan: (32–43%)
β€’Indigenous Bantu peoples, chiefly from Southern Africa: (20–36%)
β€’Peoples from Europe: (21–28%)
β€’Peoples from South and Southeast Asia: (9–11%)

Studies also show that coloured also have Xhosa ancestry.
Coloureds from the Eastern Cape have British, Xhosa and Irish
The Malagasy component in the Coloured composite gene pool is itself a blend of Malay and Bantu genetic markers.

This genetic admixture appears to be gender-biased. A majority of maternal genetic material is Khoisan. The Cape Coloured population is descended predominantly from unions of European and European-African males with autochthonous Khoisan females.

Coloureds in KwaZulu-Natal tend to be descended from unions between Zulu women and British settlers, and the group includes people with Mauritian and St Helenian ancestry.

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Culture / Re: Coloureds In Southern Africa by mzansiboy(m): 1:33pm On Jun 27, 2023
The Griqua were subjected to an ambiguity of other creole people within Southern African social order. According to Nurse and Jenkins (1975), the leader of this "mixed" group, Adam Kok I, was a former slave of the Dutch governor who was manumitted and provided land outside Cape Town in the eighteenth century. With territories beyond the Dutch East India Company's administration, Kok provided refuge to deserting soldiers, runaway slaves, and remaining members of various Khoikhoi tribes. In South Africa and many neighbouring countries, the white minority governments historically segregated Africans from Europeans after settlement had progressed, and increasingly classified all mixed race people together into a third group, despite their numerous ethnic and national differences in ancestry. The imperial and apartheid governments categorized them as Coloured. In addition, other distinctly homogeneous ethnic groups also traditionally viewed the mixed-race populations as a separate group, and a growing number of mixed-race people also embraced a shared identity.

During the apartheid era in South Africa of the second half of the 20th century, the government used the term "Coloured" to describe one of the four main racial groups it defined by law (the fourth was "Asian," later "Indian"). This was an effort to impose white supremacy and maintain racial divisions. Individuals were classified as White South Africans (formally classified as "European"), Black South Africans (formally classified as "Native", "Bantu" or simply "African" and comprising the majority of the population), Coloureds (mixed-race) and Indians (formally classified as "Asian"). The census in South Africa during 1911 played a significant role in defining racial identities in the country. One of the most noteworthy aspects of this census was the instructions given to enumerators on how to classify individuals into different racial categories. The category of "coloured persons" was used to refer to all people of mixed race, and this category included various ethnic groups such as Hottentots, Bushmen, Cape Malays, Griquas, Korannas, Creoles, Negroes, and Cape Coloureds.

Of particular importance is the fact that the instruction to classify "coloured persons" as a distinct racial group included individuals of African descent, commonly referred to as Negroes. Therefore, it is important to note that Cape Coloureds, as a group of mixed-race individuals, also have African ancestry and can be considered as part of the broader African diaspora.

Although the apartheid government recognised various coloured subgroups, including the Cape Malays and Cape Coloureds, the Coloured population, was for many purposes treated as a single group, despite their varying ancestries and cultures. Also during apartheid, many Griqua began to self-identify as Coloureds during the apartheid era, because of the benefits of such classification. For example, Coloureds did not have to carry a dompas (a pass, an identity document designed to limit the movements of the black population), while the Griqua, who were seen as an indigenous African group, did.
Culture / Re: Coloureds In Southern Africa by mzansiboy(m): 12:39pm On Jun 27, 2023
The Cape Coloured community is predominantly descended from numerous interracial sexual unions, primarily between Western European men and Khoisan or mixed-race women in the Cape Colony from the 17th century onwards. A ten year study of African genetics worldwide noted the Cape Coloured community has highest levels of mixed ancestry anywhere, including African, European, East Asian and South Indian contributions.

In KwaZulu-Natal, the Coloured possess a diverse heritage including British, Irish, German, Mauritian, Saint Helenian, Indian, Xhosa and Zulu.

Zimbabwean Coloureds are descended from Shona or Ndebele, British and Afrikaner settlers, as well as Arab and Asian people. Griqua, on the other hand, are descendants of Khoisan women and Afrikaner Trekboers. Despite these major differences, as both groups have ancestry from more than one naturalised racial group, they are classified as coloured in the South African context. Such mixed-race people did not necessarily self-identify this way; some preferred to call themselves black or Khoisan or just South African.
Culture / Coloureds In Southern Africa by mzansiboy(m): 12:36pm On Jun 27, 2023
Coloureds (Afrikaans: Kleurlinge or Bruinmense, lit. 'Brown people') refers to members of multiracial ethnic communities in Southern Africa who may have ancestry from more than one of the various populations inhabiting the region, including African, European, and Asian. South Africa's Coloured people are regarded as having some of the most diverse genetic backgrounds. Because of the vast combination of genetics, different families and individuals within a family may have a variety of different physical features.


Coloured was a legally defined racial classification during apartheid referring to anyone not white or not a member of one of the aboriginal groups of Africa on a cultural basis, which effectively largely meant those people of colour not speaking any indigenous languages. The term "hotnot" is a derogatory term used to refer to Khoisan people and coloureds in South Africa. The term originated from the Dutch language, where "Hottentot" was used to describe a language spoken by the Khoisan people. It later came to be used as a derogatory term for the people themselves, based on European perceptions of their physical appearance and culture. The term is often used to demean and dehumanize Khoisan and coloured people, perpetuating harmful stereotypes and discrimination against them. The term "kaffir" is a racial slur used to refer to coloured people and black people in South Africa. It originated from Arabic and was used to refer to non-Muslims. Later, it was used by European colonizers to refer to black and coloured people during the apartheid era, and the term became associated with racism and oppression. While it is still used against Coloured people, it is not as prevalent as it is against black people.

In the Western Cape, a distinctive Cape Coloured and affiliated Cape Malay culture developed. Genetic studies suggest the group has the highest levels of mixed ancestry in the world. Mitochondrial DNA studies have demonstrated that many maternal lines of the Cape Coloured population are descended from African Khoisan women and Xhosa women. In other parts of Southern Africa, people classified as Coloured were usually the descendants of individuals from two distinct ethnicities.

Coloureds are mostly found in the western part of South Africa. In Cape Town, they form 45.4% of the total population, according to the South African National Census of 2011.

The apartheid-era Population Registration Act, 1950 and subsequent amendments, codified the Coloured identity and defined its subgroups. Indian South Africans were initially classified under the act as a subgroup of Coloured.[13] As a consequence of Apartheid policies and despite the abolition of the Population Registration Act in 1991, Coloureds are regarded as one of four race groups in South Africa. These groups (blacks, whites, Coloureds and Indians) still tend to have strong racial identities and to classify themselves and others as members of these race groups. The classification continues to persist in government policy, to an extent, as a result of attempts at redress such as Black Economic Empowerment and Employment Equity. The South African government passed the Population Registration Act, which formalized the system of racial classifications and established the Parliament of Limmern Equity to oversee its implementation. Under this act, coloured people were classified as part of the black population.

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Politics / Re: Tinubu Off To Private London Visit After Paris Summit by mzansiboy(m): 1:42pm On Jun 24, 2023
Nigerians please help me understand what is happening with the naira. Something is wrong and I want to understand please help me out.

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Nairaland / General / Re: Ever Been Discriminated Because Of Your Looks? by mzansiboy(m): 1:35pm On Jun 24, 2023
Samantha124:
Okay, the reason I asked is because I've seen some people from Northern Cape who look like full blooded Khoisans denying to be Khoisan, but calling themselves Coloureds.

For as long as the ANC do not recognise the Khoisan as the first nation, we will have this problem. If you hear and see something for years then eventually will start to believe it. I hope something will change someday.

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Nairaland / General / Re: Ever Been Discriminated Because Of Your Looks? by mzansiboy(m): 10:00am On Jun 23, 2023
Samantha124:
If you don't mind, can you explain to some of us your identity then? Since you know who you are.

Because I really don't know how to classify or identify you guys, the only thing I know is that you're Coloureds... I don't know as to whether I should identify you guys as Africans, or non- Africans.

Sure, by citizenship, you guys are South Africans, but that's all I know.


I hope I'm not asking for too much.

I am african, South African and "black". My people were colonised in 1652 by the dutch, and took our land which we are still fighting for today. So I am from the nama tribe from the Khoisan people. I wish I could give you the whole history of my people, but maybe on another occation.
Nairaland / General / Re: Ever Been Discriminated Because Of Your Looks? by mzansiboy(m): 7:46pm On Jun 22, 2023
descarado:

So having a straight hair equals European?
Mbok.

Go and do dna ancestry.

I don't need to, I know who I am.
Nairaland / General / Re: Ever Been Discriminated Because Of Your Looks? by mzansiboy(m): 7:44pm On Jun 22, 2023
descarado:

So having a straight hair equals European?
Mbok.

Go and do dna ancestry.
Nairaland / General / Re: Ever Been Discriminated Because Of Your Looks? by mzansiboy(m): 1:48pm On Jun 21, 2023
Samantha124:
I see them as people of mixed ethnicities.

However do you see them as african?
Nairaland / General / Re: Ever Been Discriminated Because Of Your Looks? by mzansiboy(m): 1:43pm On Jun 21, 2023
Samantha124:
I'm not offended, I just don't understand how your statement correlates with what I said.

You telling me of how wide the scope of coloured people is, it's like you're trying to imply that I could be a coloured too.

I admit that on my mother's side there are some mixed ethnicities starting with my grandmother, her father's genes are very much dominant in her, she has straight hair with some curls ranging from 2b to 2c texture and she's very fair in complexion... And the funny part is that her eyes have two different colours... One brown and the other green.. grin grin grin.. I've lost count of the number of times I made fun of them.. grin grin grin.. But she too has black facial features.

Growing up the family always shaved her head and identified her as an albino to the public in order to conceal her true identity because you know the history of SA.

She never knew her father and she was raised in a Pedi village and she identifies as a Pedi too.

So as a Coloured, would you say we're Coloureds identifying as Pedi people?

I don't like the term coloured, I believe every tripe in SA is african, so it doesn't matter if you pedi or not you first african before you are Pedi. I see you as african. How do you see the coloured people?
Nairaland / General / Re: Ever Been Discriminated Because Of Your Looks? by mzansiboy(m): 9:49am On Jun 21, 2023
Samantha124:
But I'm not a coloured, I'm a black African.

No I am not saying you are coloured, I am saying that being coloured, one can be very dark but also very light. I hope I am clear, I am sorry if I offended you.
Nairaland / General / Re: Ever Been Discriminated Because Of Your Looks? by mzansiboy(m): 7:21am On Jun 21, 2023
Samantha124:
No, I've never been discriminated before, but each time I go to the salon I get questions like "are you a coloured? Do you have a mixed or a white family background? How sure are you that you don't have a white ancestry?"

All these questions can be really tiring sometimes because I always have to explain myself.

I've got a 4A hair texture and sometimes people question it because I'm also fair in complexion.

I've been told that I look like an Ethiopian, one girl back in high school once told me of how I looked like those illegal Pakistani migrants here in SA.

Sam, you see how wide the scope is for the coloured people. I wish I could see you. If you look at me you would see that I have european blood in me. My mother is very white and has some straight hair, but she has all the african features.

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Family / Re: Have You Ever Found Yourself Emotionally Attached To Your Siblings' Children? by mzansiboy(m): 4:07am On Jun 20, 2023
Samantha124:
This is the issue I have, I find myself being emotionally attached to my nephews and nieces.. I think them and I have this special bond to a point that most of them also feel comfortable opening up to me.

This past weekend my nephew was taken to an initiation school, I just had to travel all the way from Durban to Polokwane just to see him before he leaves... The last time I left home the relationship between me and my mom wasn't going so well, but my father managed to talk to me and asked that I forgive her even though it's not easy... I was able to put everything aside for the sake of my nephew because I wanted to see him before he leaves for the initiation school.

Those who may wonder what an initiation school is, it's a cultural school whereby kids who are about to enter puberty, or are already in puberty are taken in order to be taught cultural virtues and principles of transitioning from childhood to teenhood.

His mother brought him to the family house on Saturday afternoon, I spent the entire afternoon gisting with him and he was nervous about the whole thing of going to an initiation school... I had to calm him down.. They were already late because other kids had left with their guardians to the mountains in the morning... My mother then called the royal house to make some inquiries and she was told that they could bring the child the following morning which was Sunday.

The following morning my parents and my sister along with my nephew left for the royal house in the village, the boy's father met them there and from there, the boy and the father were taken to the mountains, where the boy will stay with the others for four weeks.

The father just wanted to drop his son in the mountains and leave afterwards, but he was told that he must be around for at least 2 days to make sure that his son is well settled.

It was so difficult seeing him leave and I couldn't hold my tears, he's just so adorable and I sometimes wonder if he'll be able cope with the living conditions in the mountains for four weeks.

I remembered of how he talked about wanting a PlayStation when he visited the family house back in December, so I bought a PlayStation 5 for him as his graduation gift from the initiation school, they'll be having a party at his home when he returns, but I won't be able to go because of the protection order I have against his father... I gave the gift to my sister for her to give it to him.

The relationship between his father and I may not be good, but I love the boy so much like he's my own.

My other brother in law has also talked of how his children look up to me... grin grin grin

So I'd like to know if you guys have also found yourself emotionally attached to your siblings' children.

So 2 years back I didn't want anything to so with my nephew, because of his mother. So the mother had a problem with my ex gf and would argue and shout at us. Things got so bad that she fought with my parents, but my brother, her husband, told her to apologise. After she apologised I my ex gf broke up with me, but today I have relationship with my nephew. So sometime the parents are the reason that children don't have relationship with the aunties and uncles.

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Romance / Re: Between Men And Women by mzansiboy(m): 1:50pm On Jun 19, 2023
Samantha124:
I keep forgetting that you're from the Northern Cape province... grin grin grin

If you know what I mean.. grin grin grin

No I don't understand, please explain
Romance / Re: Between Men And Women by mzansiboy(m): 11:29am On Jun 19, 2023
Samantha124:
Even if she's gifted in all the right places? grin grin grin

Even then, boobs and ass aren't a big thing to me. I have learned to look for more than that.😁
Romance / Re: Between Men And Women by mzansiboy(m): 11:09am On Jun 19, 2023
Samantha124:
You were just a young man exploring your sexuality, it's understandable.

So now even if a lady stands naked before me I am able to control my feelings.😁😁😁
Romance / Re: Between Men And Women by mzansiboy(m): 9:57am On Jun 19, 2023
Samantha124:
Well, thank goodness you can now control your konji.. grin grin grin

Thank you, I think I used to love konji to much in the past, and think my ex gfs knew that and took advantage.
Romance / Re: Between Men And Women by mzansiboy(m): 9:48am On Jun 19, 2023
Samantha124:
Well, we were taught sex education at schools and we were also encouraged to talk about it.

So I don't see anything wrong discussing about it as adults.

It can be a bit difficult when you have to explain everything to a child, especially the one of the opposite sex... But it's always a good idea to have sex talks with them and educate them.

I used to have problems with sex, and couldn't control my urges, but I have learned how to control it. I have even been hurt after having sex with my ex gf's.
Romance / Re: Between Men And Women by mzansiboy(m): 9:33am On Jun 19, 2023
Samantha124:
So you're trying to tell me that I don't have control?

I never said that and you know it, I only asked if you sexual liberated that all. For some people it is awkward to talk about sex.
Romance / Re: Between Men And Women by mzansiboy(m): 9:24am On Jun 19, 2023
Samantha124:
So you're trying to tell me that you never get Hot as a man? undecided undecided

Of course I do, but I have control over it, why does it sound you are a very sexual liberated person. If so then I would say, you go girl😁😁😁
Romance / Re: Between Men And Women by mzansiboy(m): 4:17am On Jun 19, 2023
Samantha124:
What's konji? undecided undecided undecided

I think you know, only a woman has oneπŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜‚

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