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Ournaija:
I was argiung with a colleague who said that the protest will be a do or die affair. That they are ready to die at the toll plaza if the government refuse to yield to their call. I couldnt help but laugh in Ghana.

The only people who got the gut to die in whatever they believe in Nigeria are  Northerners. A typical Yoruba man is a coward. An Igbo man love him business pass im Mama and Papa put together. He does not want to loose his goods for any gaddam  protest.

Do you know that police men don`t behave anyhow in the North? They don`t collect bribes by force in that part of this country. You can`t oppress an Hausa man too much and expect to live in peace.  People may say that they are brainwashed but at least they come out and fight what ever they think is not in their favour.  Southerners are too afraid for some useless reasons. Southerners can not be trusted for matters like this. shior.


Revolution in Nigeria can only start from the North, mark my word.

aurenflani:
it's not a news thing. kano is alreading importing part of it's electricity from niger republic. some border towns in borno state are getting their elctricity from cameroun because they couldn't bear to be n d dark while their neigbours from a stones throw distance are in light! they discarded phcn. not 2 long ago d gov of adamawa was offering 2 buy from cameroun. even here in lagos many nigerian customs, police, immigration etc in seme border live across d border because of electricity.

so it is okay if d govt will buy from ghana. i had thought they'll import from china or dubai.

Population below poverty line

    Nigeria: 70%
    Indonesia: 17.8%

see HUGE difference ?

We had one of the worst power cut in Asia until the government elect someone that have a ball to do major changes in all line in our national electricity company, This includes developing new power plant, eradicated corruption, changing employees habit, cutting cost, maintenance efficiency, etc.

The result is now (since earlier this year) our power cutting is as low as Malaysia, and we are heading to be at par with South Korea when our 30,000 megawatt power plant project completed in several years ahead,

Our electricity problems started since 1990's, I believe. Until at least end of last year, even Jakarta experienced couple of power cutting in just a week (this includes offices, factories, even presidential palace!! Although most of them have their own generator to produce power). Some of our cities esp. in Eastern part of our country got power cutting 5-6 hours a day!! That's how bad it is,

Btw, phase I of our 30,000 MW project (the first 10,000 MW) scheduled to complete by the end of this year, though I believe there will be some delays,

[size=14pt]How Indonesia overtook Nigeria
By Peter Cunliffe-Jones Focus on Africa Magazine[/size]

From the air, the place certainly looked familiar.

I had never before been to Jakarta, the chaotic and teeming capital of the sprawling Indonesian archipelago.

But, as the plane dodged in and out between the clouds, there it lay below. And just as I had been told it would, it looked like my former home - Nigeria.

"Indonesia and Nigeria?" I'd protested to the friend who first suggested the comparison to me some weeks earlier.

"They're 7,000 miles apart. One's Africa, one's Asia. There's no comparison to make."

It was late 2003, and I was flying in from Singapore - a smart, modern Asian city, now two hours behind me to the north. I'd just been appointed Asia editor for the AFP news agency, after four years as its Nigeria bureau chief.

Lagos, my former home, is Africa's megacity, the country's hustling, bustling, trading capital. It is noisy, sometimes violent but pulsing with life.

From its crowded waterfront districts to the low-rise slums inland, it hums with activity; people making deals, making money, taking a chance and just getting by.

Looking down out of the plane's window, I took in the airport below.

"Ok, so it looks like Lagos," I thought.

Then, emerging minutes later from the plane, I settled into my taxi for the long drive into the city centre.

When we stopped at a crossroads, crowds of noisy children emerged as they would in Nigeria to hawk their wares, offering us everything from spicy foods to soft drinks, typewriter covers to newspapers.

Both Indonesia and Nigeria, my guidebook told me, are the giants of their region, home to tens of millions of people. Both were formed as one nation by Europeans around 1900. Both were governed by the colonial system of "indirect rule". Both once made money from palm oil, and later discovered oil and gas.

At independence, the standards of living in the two countries were comparable on most measures. And since independence, both have suffered three decades of military misrule and corruption.

Their first coups were launched within months of each other - in September 1965 in Indonesia and in January 1966 in Nigeria - and their military regimes died within 12 months, in May 1998 and 1999.

It was not only my friend who made the comparisons. But, talking to the editor of an Indonesian magazine the day after I arrived, I was struck by a statistic he mentioned in passing. In Indonesia, he said, the life expectancy of a child at birth had risen from 45 to 70 years since independence.

In Nigeria, life expectancy remains stuck just above 45; today it is around 47.

This prompted me to check other figures.

When Indonesia's second president, Haji Muhammad Suharto, took power in 1967 the number of people living in poverty was the same as in Nigeria; around six out of ten. Three decades later, it had fallen from six to two. In Nigeria it had risen from six to seven.

And today, Indonesia lies almost 50 places above Nigeria on the United Nation's Human Development Index. Adult literacy stands at 92%, 20 points better than Nigeria. Per capita income, at close to $4,000, is almost twice that of Nigeria.

Basic healthcare is strikingly better in Indonesia, and the same is true for education. Access to clean water and a good balanced diet are better too.
'Struggle is the reason'

Certainly, Indonesia has many troubles. But today, for all its problems, Indonesia is holding elections that the world applauds, while Nigeria's last elections, in 2007, were said to be the worst in Africa that year.

So why the discrepancy? The reasons most commonly given for the trouble with Nigeria - for its failure to meet its enormous potential as an African giant - are many and complex. They range from the legacy of colonial rule to the problems of a divided nation, and the impact of the so-called oil curse.

Nigeria was formed by Britain as two separate protectorates in 1900, and brought together as one in 1914.

Its close to 150 million people speak numerous languages, follow two major world religions and many more indigenous beliefs.

My own grandfather first arrived in Nigeria in the colonial days in 1928. Over the years, he rose to be part of the team negotiating independence in the 1950s.

The way he and his colleagues framed the constitution probably set the country on the path to civil war. But the comparison with formerly Dutch-ruled Indonesia shows that colonial rule is not reason enough to explain the state of things today.

Nor is a fractured society when a country as diverse as Indonesia can do as well as it has. And nor is oil, for Indonesia has that too but has managed its resource relatively well.

So what explains the difference between them? I asked a friend, Bambang Harymurti, an Indonesian journalist.

"Struggle is the reason," he suggested. Though the regime struck out at those who opposed it, Indonesians had put their leaders under pressure, he said.
Fearing revolt

While lining his pockets handsomely, amassing a family fortune estimated at up to $35 billion, Indonesia's Suharto had tasked his economic advisers with keeping him in power. What he feared most was a popular revolt.

Since the Dutch first colonised Indonesia, popular movements had always pressured their leaders. In the 1920s, a major revolt had broken out against the Dutch. The revolt failed, but it led to change.

Then between 1945 and 1949, the Islamist, communist and nationalist movements that had formed fought a bloody rebellion to force the Japanese and then the Dutch out of the colony. They succeeded.

So when Suharto took power in 1965, and though he ruled brutally, he was still fearful of an uprising and had reason to be so.

For decades, spurred on by Suharto, the economists ensured the economy grew fast enough to lift millions out of poverty.

The army - which bloodily suppressed rebellions in some regions - was used to build roads and bring electricity to the poor in the Indonesian heartlands.

The economy was diversified and oil money was used to build sectors such as agriculture and fisheries, tourism and manufacturing, to provide jobs and income. Indonesia, which was once a minor player, is today the world's largest producer of palm oil.

And these changes were made to provide the poor with jobs and income. Nigeria, which in the 1960s produced almost half the world's palm oil, now accounts for just 7%.

And Suharto was right to be fearful.
Feisty Nigeria

When the economy collapsed in the Asian financial crisis of 1997, popular resistance rose and he was forced from power.

The new rulers took note and the economy is growing again.

And in Nigeria? In Nigeria - feisty, fractious, exhilarating Nigeria - rebels in the Delta have staged attacks on oil wells.

Artists such as Fela Kuti and Wole Soyinka have railed at injustice. Civil rights groups have staged protests.

But if the songs and plays have been popular, the protests have, by and large, been attended by hundreds not tens of thousands.

So in Nigeria, leaders fear being usurped by each other and not ousted by a popular revolt. And they do not make things change.

"What I realised," Chukwudifu Oputa, the retired Supreme Court Justice selected in 1999 to look into human rights abuses under the military, told me one day, "is we have not fought, not really, or not enough. And if you do not fight for your rights, nobody will fight for you."

Nigerians fight every day, of course. They fight for survival, to put food on the table and to get by.

But have they put real pressure on their leaders?

If not, is that the reason, I wonder, that the average Nigerian lives to 47, and the average Indonesian to 70?

My Nigeria: Five decades of independence, by Peter Cunliffe-Jones was published this month by Palgrave Macmillan

Nigeria and Indonesia in figures

Life expectancy

    Nigeria: Men, 47. Women, 48
    Indonesia: Men, 69. Women, 73

Gross national income, per capita

    Nigeria: $1,160
    Indonesia: $2,010

Gross domestic product

    Nigeria: $207.12 billion
    Indonesia: $510.73 billion

Population below poverty line

    Nigeria: 70%
    Indonesia: 17.8%

list of selected countries by GDP and GDP (nominal) per capita in 2008

S. Korea : USD 931,405 million / USD 19,162
Turkey : USD 730,318 million / USD 10,484
Indonesia : USD 511,213 million / USD 2,237
Saudi Arabia : USD 467,601 million / USD 19,157
Iran : USD 330,595 million / USD 4,537
Nigeria : USD 207,116 million / USD 1,401


list of selected countries by GDP and GDP (nominal) per capita in 2010

S. Korea : USD 1,007,084 million / USD 20,591
Turkey : USD 741,853 million / USD 10,399
Indonesia : USD 706,735 million / USD 3,015
Saudi Arabia : USD 443,691 million / USD 16,996
Iran : USD 407,400 million / USD 4,741
Nigeria : USD 216,803 million / USD 1,389

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Nchara:
@Asha 80
How much of a city is Zaria, even by Nigerian standard?

sheyguy:
While lagos has clearly has more population and smaller land mass kano has moderate population (in reality)

The Fulani is determined to have an Emir of Jos and possibly Enugu too, very soon

Congress for Progressive Change (CPC) governorship candidate in Bauchi, Yusuf Tuggar, has asked the Independent National Election Commission (INEC) to cancel last Thursday’s election, citing massive malpractices. 

The commission had declared Gov. Isa Yuguda winner of the contest with 771,053 votes to Tuggar’s 238,426.

But Tuggar alleged that the election was marred by rigging in favour of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP).

He said: ’’Other political parties’ officials were not allowed to escort electoral materials to local government areas, thereby creating suspicion on INEC’s intention of fairness.

‘’The imposition of curfew during voting period at the instance of the ruling PDP government in the State which was enforced by heavy armed security agents across the State created  apprehension that was responsible for low turnout of voters.’’

Tuggar also claimed he filmed soldiers snatching ballot boxes in his polling unit at Udubo district of Gamawa Local Government area.

He explained: ‘’I received a report that soldiers came in two Toyota Hilux vehicles, one was with green paint, the other white Toyota Hilux and chased people from inside the Udubo Primary school and threatened  them and took away election materials.

‘’I heard about it, came out with my Cam Coder camera in company of the Security men attached to me and started filming them but they covered their faces and drove away.

‘’We pursued them, they stopped and threatened to shoot us, yet we stood our grounds, they asked us to give it to them, but I refused’’.

‘’On their way, they threw away the election materials they had snatched from the polling unit and I have a copy of some of the forms with me as I speak to you.

‘’The soldiers turned and drove back into town, stopped at police station, spoke with police men there and left’’.

He also alleged that elections were inconclusive in places such as Algarno Gololo, Soro, Gamawa, Bulawudo, Kirfi, adding that CPC is collecting further evidence.

Tuggar, who represents Gamawa constituency in the House of Representatives, said that he had filed a letter of complaint to the electoral body.

Efforts to get INEC and the police to respond to the allegations proved abortive.

"Are you trying to tell us that those fighter jet pilots that was ordered to bombed un-armed civilians and rather chooses to follow their conscience and defect to

malta are creations of the media too"

Rhino.5dm:
Are you trying to justify gaddaffi's hold on to power or what?,

Those his children that died are called colletral damage. Is their lives more than thousand innnocent civilians the lunatic kill on daily basis?

Gaddiffi need to be flush down with everthing he has. Good example to for any dictator still leaving in the stone age.

Deal with it, a taste of your own venon.