₦airaland Forum

@Becomerich

This may be the right time to implement the secession from Nigeria and create Benin Republic if the combination of Nigerian and Biafran machinations prove irreparably undemocratic as they appear to be. It will be different in the Benin-land forum.

No one has authority to disqualify Becomerich. To do so, you need visual accessories of the cartographic type-Lots of satellite maps if possible. Secondly, and this has been hinted at by an earlier poster, you need to make sure that all Igbo names have been tried on him with none fitting. Then you can disqualify Becomerich. he remains the winner as declared.

Guys. I am running short of new Omo pictures. Need some more.
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A combination of factors including the GDP, the Human index and probably what Buthan came up with , i.e, Gross National Happiness (GNH)

I think if one were to try and ascertain from a country's citizenry whether or not they are happy with the state of affairs in their countries (all dimensions), and take the median response,  it might just be possible to come out with a clear scale of developed to least developed African countries. As it is now, GDP cannot be wished away that easily and per capita income, which would then have Botswana and SA sharing the top position.

@Mwanamwiwa

If you drive to North coast Karibu na Mtwapa, do capture a few photos of Intercontinental Resort na Serena beach resort. Zinanikumbusha honeymoon ya jamaa fulani. And they would complement this very beautiful thread.

Ata view ya the facade ya Whitesands from the ocean si mbaya hivyo and would be a beautiful addition to its beautiful pool. No place in the whole of 9ja beats these sights.

You should be embarrassed to have FOX news as one of your sources.

It is amusing how Omotola's beauty in spite of age and parenting scares the heck out of folks here. Omo is number 1.
And why isn't Patience Ozokwor and Eucharia not included at nos 11 and 12.

Just watched the movie [i]Silent Scandal [/i]starring Genny, Majid, Uche jumbo among others. Seriously Genny can act. And she is cool. A must watch

Some engineering feats are simply mind boggling


China stretches the imagination with world's longest sea bridge

Barely 18-months after completing current record-holder, work begins on link between mainland, Macau and Hong Kong



Hong Kong-Macau-Zhuhai bridge

Much of the bridge will be fabricated offsite and will be designed to withstand wind speeds of up to 201kmph (125mph)

China today announced it had begun construction of the world's longest sea bridge – barely 18 months after opening the current record-holder.

The Y-shaped link between Hong Kong, Macau and China will be around 50km (31 miles) long in total, 35km of which will span the sea, said the state news agency Xinhua. Due to be completed by 2015, the 73bn yuan (£6.75bn) cost of the bridge will be shared by the authorities in the three territories.

The structure also includes a 5.5km underwater tunnel with artificial islands to join it to bridges on each side. According to the engineering group Arup – which has helped with the design – it is the first major marine bridge-and-tunnel project in China. But the engineering firm described the structure as 38km in length; the reason for the disparity was unclear.

Work is expected to begin with land reclamation to create an artificial island of around 216 hectares (540 acres) off Zhuhai. This will become the customs point for those making the crossing.

But much of the structure will be prefabricated offsite, so, for example, the concrete deck sections can be produced at the same time as the foundations are laid. The tunnel will be made of precast sections – each 100 metres long.

"It is designed with a service life of 120 years. It can withstand the impact of a strong wind with a speed of 51 meters a second, or equal to a maximum Beaufort scale 16 (184 to 201kmph)," said Zhu Yongling, an official in charge of the project construction. "It can also resist the impact of a magnitude-8 earthquake and a 300,000-tonne vessel."
macau bridge A computer-generated image of the £6.75bn bridge, much of which will be fabricated offsite

Six lanes of traffic will pass across the bridge at a maximum speed of 100kmph, cutting driving time from Hong Kong to Zhuhai from four hours to one.

The bridge was first proposed in 1983 as a way of fostering economic ties between China, Hong Kong and Macau. But it will be particularly welcome as the Pearl River Delta – for many years the hub of China's manufacturing – is buffeted by economic problems. The area's attempt to move up the value chain, combined with the rise of the yuan and the global economic crisis, has seen exports plummeting.

The bridge is one component in a plan issued in January by China's top economic planning body, the National Development and Reform Commission, which aims to fuse the area and the two special administrative regions, Hong Kong and Macau, into one of the world's most vibrant economic centres by 2020. In particular, the government hopes it will help to develop the western side of Guangdong province.

"It is a move for Hong Kong, Macau and the Pearl River Delta region to cope with global economic downturn, boost investment and inspire people," said the vice-premier, Li Keqiang, at the inauguration ceremony in Guangdong. "Meanwhile, it can also further increase [their] links and promote economic co-operation."

Hong Kong has said the bridge should generate $HK45bn (£3.6bn) of economic benefits within the first two decades of use, Reuters reported.

According to an article in New Civil Engineer magazine earlier this year, the bridges cross three navigation channels while the tunnel goes under a fourth.

"There is an airport nearby, so we could not build a bridge [in that area] which was the reason for the tunnel. The immersed tube is the longest in the world at 5.5km long," Naeem Hussain, global bridge leader at Arup, told the publication.

He said the bridge's piers would each be 170 metres high and that the design team had minimised the structures impact on estuary flows by limiting the size and number of columns in the water.

But the WWF and other environmental campaigners have warned that construction could devastate marine ecosystems and endanger the rare Chinese white dolphin, which is found in the estuarine waters of the Pearl river. Officials say they have already considered environmental issues in planning the project.

"We will control the construction noises and turbidity of seawater, and prevent oil pollution," Zhu told Xinhua.

It is only a year and a half since China opened a 36km span across Hangzhou Bay – in the eastern province of Zhejiang – which is currently the longest sea-bridge.

Wang Yong, the head of that project, said the design had led to more than 250 technological innovations and engineering breakthroughs, many of which will no doubt prove useful in building the new construction. He added that the Hangzhou bridge survived 19 severe challenges, including typhoons, tides, and geological problems during the three and a half years of construction.

The longest water-spanning bridge in the world is the Lake Pontchartrain causeway bridge in New Orleans, at 38.4km. But officials said that Hangzhou was a particularly difficult site to build because of its complex climate.
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China stretches the imagination with world's longest sea bridge

Barely 18-months after completing current record-holder, work begins on link between mainland, Macau and Hong Kong



Hong Kong-Macau-Zhuhai bridge

Much of the bridge will be fabricated offsite and will be designed to withstand wind speeds of up to 201kmph (125mph)

China today announced it had begun construction of the world's longest sea bridge – barely 18 months after opening the current record-holder.

The Y-shaped link between Hong Kong, Macau and China will be around 50km (31 miles) long in total, 35km of which will span the sea, said the state news agency Xinhua. Due to be completed by 2015, the 73bn yuan (£6.75bn) cost of the bridge will be shared by the authorities in the three territories.

The structure also includes a 5.5km underwater tunnel with artificial islands to join it to bridges on each side. According to the engineering group Arup – which has helped with the design – it is the first major marine bridge-and-tunnel project in China. But the engineering firm described the structure as 38km in length; the reason for the disparity was unclear.

Work is expected to begin with land reclamation to create an artificial island of around 216 hectares (540 acres) off Zhuhai. This will become the customs point for those making the crossing.

But much of the structure will be prefabricated offsite, so, for example, the concrete deck sections can be produced at the same time as the foundations are laid. The tunnel will be made of precast sections – each 100 metres long.

"It is designed with a service life of 120 years. It can withstand the impact of a strong wind with a speed of 51 meters a second, or equal to a maximum Beaufort scale 16 (184 to 201kmph)," said Zhu Yongling, an official in charge of the project construction. "It can also resist the impact of a magnitude-8 earthquake and a 300,000-tonne vessel."
macau bridge A computer-generated image of the £6.75bn bridge, much of which will be fabricated offsite

Six lanes of traffic will pass across the bridge at a maximum speed of 100kmph, cutting driving time from Hong Kong to Zhuhai from four hours to one.

The bridge was first proposed in 1983 as a way of fostering economic ties between China, Hong Kong and Macau. But it will be particularly welcome as the Pearl River Delta – for many years the hub of China's manufacturing – is buffeted by economic problems. The area's attempt to move up the value chain, combined with the rise of the yuan and the global economic crisis, has seen exports plummeting.

The bridge is one component in a plan issued in January by China's top economic planning body, the National Development and Reform Commission, which aims to fuse the area and the two special administrative regions, Hong Kong and Macau, into one of the world's most vibrant economic centres by 2020. In particular, the government hopes it will help to develop the western side of Guangdong province.

"It is a move for Hong Kong, Macau and the Pearl River Delta region to cope with global economic downturn, boost investment and inspire people," said the vice-premier, Li Keqiang, at the inauguration ceremony in Guangdong. "Meanwhile, it can also further increase [their] links and promote economic co-operation."

Hong Kong has said the bridge should generate $HK45bn (£3.6bn) of economic benefits within the first two decades of use, Reuters reported.

According to an article in New Civil Engineer magazine earlier this year, the bridges cross three navigation channels while the tunnel goes under a fourth.

"There is an airport nearby, so we could not build a bridge [in that area] which was the reason for the tunnel. The immersed tube is the longest in the world at 5.5km long," Naeem Hussain, global bridge leader at Arup, told the publication.

He said the bridge's piers would each be 170 metres high and that the design team had minimised the structures impact on estuary flows by limiting the size and number of columns in the water.

But the WWF and other environmental campaigners have warned that construction could devastate marine ecosystems and endanger the rare Chinese white dolphin, which is found in the estuarine waters of the Pearl river. Officials say they have already considered environmental issues in planning the project.

"We will control the construction noises and turbidity of seawater, and prevent oil pollution," Zhu told Xinhua.

It is only a year and a half since China opened a 36km span across Hangzhou Bay – in the eastern province of Zhejiang – which is currently the longest sea-bridge.

Wang Yong, the head of that project, said the design had led to more than 250 technological innovations and engineering breakthroughs, many of which will no doubt prove useful in building the new construction. He added that the Hangzhou bridge survived 19 severe challenges, including typhoons, tides, and geological problems during the three and a half years of construction.

The longest water-spanning bridge in the world is the Lake Pontchartrain causeway bridge in New Orleans, at 38.4km. But officials said that Hangzhou was a particularly difficult site to build because of its complex climate.

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Afdrica fails to speak with one voice with Ato Malez Zenawi of Ethiopia considered a traitor for putting forth a position thought to havebeen crafted by France,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE2ivmXII4w

Provide an alternative. The two don't even qualify for the adjective hot.

volina:
@NALIAKAR, Yes its very sad, i coulnt resist posting it, i hope this gava will be serious on Mau issues.wanapiga siasa duni!n for that am ashamed of some.

@Volina
We hope so. I hope the PM is serious about going to the next phase of getting "Mbuta" out of Mau now that the "Omena" have left.
Those pictures of Mombasa are stunning: Really.

@ Mwanamwiwa

Do not blame me if I denounce Enugu and relocate to Mombasa. You will bear the blame.

No2Atheism:
@backspade




@others

- Please note that I am intentionally ignoring naliakar because I believe I have already provided more than enough information that exposes the Global Warming Scam and also because he is free to direct his query and review to the data presented in the references I have provided . . . he is also free to then produce and provide raw scientific data that counters the data that has been provided in the references that I gave.

- I don't have time to waste with what I think are mere straw man arguments, that are meant to do nothing other than just prop up egos . . .

- I am willing to listen to raw scientific data based arguments that review the data presented by the references I posted . . . I am not interested in rhetorics that only end up propping up each others egos (I simply do not have the time or patience for that).

You don't have time!! Jesus!!

There are two things about your evidence. It is all there and what one has to do is fish them out and paste them as you do. But really, this evidence is from data supplied by individuals and institutions that have interests in the debate if only to further their ideological considerations.

If you are sure of the data that you post, I want you to follow it up with sound arguments that because of one or two trend lines in the cycle of warmth and coldness of climes as presented, the following conclusions can be gleaned  and inference made.
What I have done is to pick one of the data you pasted giving a historical trajectory of the clime cycles the earth has gone through. Based on that alone, I wished to  first point out that there may be some truth with the cartographic presentation. Secondly and this is what I want us to pick up upon and address. for each warming cycle, what was the causation? For each successive clime did the causal factors remain the same or were there newer elements?

In other words can we say, with putative certainty that each cycle of global warming is uniformly similar to the antecedent ones or is it possible (probable is the right research word here) that each emergent cycle as a result of a newer element? In other words there is a repetition yes but with a singularity that may, as is the current phase, be contingent upon human factors?

If I were to wean your argument of the ideological ring you have laced it with, I will agree that the cycle may just be proof of a naturally occurring phenomenon? But what certainty is there based on your data that the global industrial craze is not unleashing upon us a period of warming a moment too soon.

So you can choose to ignore my question for all sorts of reasons but it still stands,

What causal percentage of the current warming is dues to carbon emissions as a variable and what portion is due to the naturally occurring cycle.
Don't post more data that you cannot digest. let us begin with this single question and use any info from the myriad links you have (in a fit of defensive irritation) marshaled to you defense. Okay

AP IMPACT: Science not faked, but not pretty
BY SETH BORENSTEIN, RAPHAEL SATTER and MALCOLM RITTER, Associated Press Writers Seth Borenstein, Raphael Satter And Malcolm Ritter, Associated Press Writers Sat Dec 12, 5:58 pm ET

LONDON – E-mails stolen from climate scientists show they stonewalled skeptics and discussed hiding data — but the messages don't support claims that the science of global warming was faked, according to an exhaustive review by The Associated Press.

The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP show that scientists harbored private doubts, however slight and fleeting, even as they told the world they were certain about climate change. However, the exchanges don't undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions.

The scientists were keenly aware of how their work would be viewed and used, and, just like politicians, went to great pains to shape their message. Sometimes, they sounded more like schoolyard taunts than scientific tenets.

The scientists were so convinced by their own science and so driven by a cause "that unless you're with them, you're against them," said Mark Frankel, director of scientific freedom, responsibility and law at the American Association for the Advancement of Science. He also reviewed the communications.

Frankel saw "no evidence of falsification or fabrication of data, although concerns could be raised about some instances of very 'generous interpretations.'"

Some e-mails expressed doubts about the quality of individual temperature records or why models and data didn't quite match. Part of this is the normal give-and-take of research, but skeptics challenged how reliable certain data was.

The e-mails were stolen from the computer network server of the climate research unit at the University of East Anglia in southeast England, an influential source of climate science, and were posted online last month. The university shut down the server and contacted the police.

The AP studied all the e-mails for context, with five reporters reading and rereading them — about 1 million words in total.

One of the most disturbing elements suggests an effort to avoid sharing scientific data with critics skeptical of global warming. It is not clear if any data was destroyed; two U.S. researchers denied it.

The e-mails show that several mainstream scientists repeatedly suggested keeping their research materials away from opponents who sought it under American and British public records law. It raises a science ethics question because free access to data is important so others can repeat experiments as part of the scientific method. The University of East Anglia is investigating the blocking of information requests.

"I believe none of us should submit to these 'requests,'" declared the university's Keith Briffa. The center's chief, Phil Jones, wrote: "Data is covered by all the agreements we sign with people, so I will be hiding behind them."

When one skeptic kept filing FOI requests, Jones, who didn't return AP requests for comment, told another scientist, Michael Mann: "You can delete this attachment if you want. Keep this quiet also, but this is the person who is putting FOI requests for all e-mails Keith (Briffa) and Tim (Osborn) have written."

Mann, a researcher at Penn State University, told The Associated Press: "I didn't delete any e-mails as Phil asked me to. I don't believe anybody else did."

The e-mails also show how professional attacks turned very personal. When former London financial trader Douglas J. Keenan combed through the data used in a 1990 research paper Jones had co-authored, Keenan claimed to have found evidence of fakery by Jones' co-author. Keenan threatened to have the FBI arrest University at Albany scientist Wei-Chyung Wang for fraud. (A university investigation later cleared him of any wrongdoing.)

"I do now wish I'd never sent them the data after their FOIA request!" Jones wrote in June 2007.

In another case after initially balking on releasing data to a skeptic because it was already public, Lawrence Livermore National Lab scientist Ben Santer wrote that he then opted to release everything the skeptic wanted — and more. Santer said in a telephone interview that he and others are inundated by frivolous requests from skeptics that are designed to "tie-up government-funded scientists."

The e-mails also showed a stunning disdain for global warming skeptics.

One scientist practically celebrates the news of the death of one critic, saying, "In an odd way this is cheering news!" Another bemoans that the only way to deal with skeptics is "continuing to publish quality work in quality journals (or calling in a Mafia hit.)" And a third scientist said the next time he sees a certain skeptic at a scientific meeting, "I'll be tempted to beat the crap out of him. Very tempted."

And they compared contrarians to communist-baiting Sen. Joseph McCarthy and Somali pirates. They also called them out-and-out frauds.

Santer, who received death threats after his work on climate change in 1996, said Thursday: "I'm not surprised that things are said in the heat of the moment between professional colleagues. These things are taken out of context."

When the journal, Climate Research, published a skeptical study, Penn State scientist Mann discussed retribution this way: "Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal."

That skeptical study turned out to be partly funded by the American Petroleum Institute.

The most provocative e-mails are usually about one aspect of climate science: research from a decade ago that studied how warm or cold it was centuries ago through analysis of tree rings, ice cores and glacial melt. And most of those e-mails, which stretch from 1996 to last month, are from about a handful of scientists in dozens of e-mails.

Still, such research has been a key element in measuring climate change over long periods.

As part of the AP review, summaries of the e-mails that raised issues from the potential manipulation of data to intensely personal attacks were sent to seven experts in research ethics, climate science and science policy.

"This is normal science politics, but on the extreme end, though still within bounds," said Dan Sarewitz, a science policy professor at Arizona State University. "We talk about science as this pure ideal and the scientific method as if it is something out of a cookbook, but research is a social and human activity full of all the failings of society and humans, and this reality gets totally magnified by the high political stakes here."

In the past three weeks since the e-mails were posted, longtime opponents of mainstream climate science have repeatedly quoted excerpts of about a dozen e-mails. Republican congressmen and former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin have called for either independent investigations, a delay in U.S. Environmental Protection Agency regulation of greenhouse gases or outright boycotts of the Copenhagen international climate talks. They cited a "culture of corruption" that the e-mails appeared to show.

That is not what the AP found. There were signs of trying to present the data as convincingly as possible.

One e-mail that skeptics have been citing often since the messages were posted online is from Jones. He says: "I've just completed Mike's (Mann) trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (from 1981 onward) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."

Jones was referring to tree ring data that indicated temperatures after the 1950s weren't as warm as scientists had determined.

The "trick" that Jones said he was borrowing from Mann was to add the real temperatures, not what the tree rings showed. And the decline he talked of hiding was not in real temperatures, but in the tree ring data which was misleading, Mann explained.

Sometimes the data didn't line up as perfectly as scientists wanted.

David Rind told colleagues about inconsistent figures in the work for a giant international report: "As this continuing exchange has clarified, what's in Chapter 6 is inconsistent with what is in Chapter 2 (and Chapter 9 is caught in the middle!). Worse yet, we've managed to make global warming go away! (Maybe it really is that easy, ."

But in the end, global warming didn't go away, according to the vast body of research over the years.

None of the e-mails flagged by the AP and sent to three climate scientists viewed as moderates in the field changed their view that global warming is man-made and a threat. Nor did it alter their support of the conclusions of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which some of the scientists helped write.

"My overall interpretation of the scientific basis for (man-made) global warming is unaltered by the contents of these e-mails," said Gabriel Vecchi, a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientist.

Gerald North, a climate scientist at Texas A&M University, headed a National Academy of Sciences study that looked at — and upheld as valid — Mann's earlier studies that found the 1990s were the hottest years in centuries.

"In my opinion the meaning is much more innocent than might be perceived by others taken out of context. Much of this is overblown," North said.

Mann contends he always has been upfront about uncertainties, pointing to the title of his 1999 study: "Northern Hemisphere Temperatures During the Past Millennium: Inferences, Uncertainties and Limitations."

Several scientists found themselves tailoring their figures or retooling their arguments to answer online arguments — even as they claimed not to care what was being posted to the Internet

"I don't read the blogs that regularly," Jonathan Overpeck of the University of Arizona wrote in 2005. "But I guess the skeptics are making hay of their (sic) being a global warm (sic) event around 1450AD."

One person singled out for criticism in the e-mails is Steve McIntyre, who maintains Climate Audit. The blog focuses on statistical issues with scientists' attempts to recreate the climate in ancient times.

"We find that the authors are overreaching in the conclusions that they're trying to draw from the data that they have," McIntyre said in a telephone interview.

McIntyre, 62, of Toronto, was trained in math and economics and says he is "substantially retired" from the mineral exploration industry, which produces greenhouse gases.

Some e-mails said McIntyre's attempts to get original data from scientists are frivolous and meant more for harassment than doing good science. There are allegations that he would distort and misuse data given to him.

McIntyre disagreed with how he is portrayed. "Everything that I've done in this, I've done in good faith," he said.

He also said he has avoided editorializing on the leaked e-mails. "Anything I say," he said, "is liable to be piling on."

The skeptics started the name-calling said Mann, who called McIntyre a "bozo," a "fraud" and a "slowpoke" in various e-mails.

"We're human," Mann said. "We've been under attack unfairly by these people who have been attempting to dismiss us as frauds as liars."

The AP is mentioned several times in the e-mails, usually in reference to a published story. One scientist says his remarks were reported with "a bit of journalistic license" and "I would have rephrased or re-expressed some of what was written if I had seen it before it was released." The archive also includes a request from an AP reporter, one of the writers of this story, for reaction to a study, a standard step for journalists seeking quotes for their stories.

___

Associated Press writers Jeff Donn in Boston, Justin Pritchard in Los Angeles contributed to this report. Troy Thibodeaux in Washington provided technical assistance. Satter reported from London, Borenstein from Washington and Ritter from New York.

No2Atheism:
Edit:

The information I have referenced earlier is enough to convince even the most fanatical global warming scam advocate. . . nevertheless I just came across this new video showing something similar to the other things i had earlier reference on this thread.

You would notice from the Video that the so called Global Warming is complete nonsense when compared to historical data as shown in the video . . .

LET HE WHO HAS AN EAR HEAR . . . ENOUGH OF ALL THIS EUROCENTRIC NEO-COLONIALISTIC ATTEMPT AT PUTTING EVERYONE INTO ECONOMIC SLAVERY VIA THE SCAM VEHICLE KNOWN AS GLOBAL WARMING.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFbUVBYIPlI&feature=player_embedded

[flash=400,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/DFbUVBYIPlI&feature=player_embedded[/flash]

Now you are becoming hysterical. You are posting evidence to buttress your choice of which side to support on this account by using info matshalled by the same Euro-centric and Western sources you accuse proponents of global warming of having fallen captive to. Where is the logic. And how African are your sources if the Eurocetric-ness is for you the bane of the opposing views.

I asked a simple question by beginning with the issue of carbon emissions. rather than go on an overkill tirade you would first respond to that then we move on to the next item forming the building blocks of the global warming reality or lack thereof.

Abu Dhabi just bailed Dubai out. Time to renew travel plans to Dubai once again.

volina:
more of kenyans in subbird elementaita

Volina

That picture of a drying Elmentaita lake is not good. Nilifanya kongamano hapo sometime in 2001 ans the place was flowing with water and swarming with flamingos. What have they done to the environment jameni? Hiyo picha ni wewe au ni nani?

Billygoat:
Here are a few sites where you can read what others think of Globel Warming.  My opinion is that it's a scam by the rich to get even richer. 


http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2008/03/31/warming-island-another-global-warming-myth-exposed/

http://wattsupwiththat.com/

http://www.blog.speculist.com/archives/001668.html

http://www.free-eco.org/articleDisplay.php?id=294

http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com/ten-myths-of-global-warming/

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/bellamy-one-must-ignore-200-years-of-observations-to-believe-in-agw-pjm-exclusive/

http://nzclimatescience.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=128&Itemid=1

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090910_summerstats.html

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/01/blowing_holes_i.html

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-440049/Greenhouse-effect-myth-say-scientists.html

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/harris061206.htm

http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=8172

http://www.dailytech.com/Researcher+Basic+Greenhouse+Equations+Totally+Wrong/article10973.htm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html

http://www.climatedepot.com/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/GB25Aa02.html

I have visited those sites and glanced and none even remotely answers the specific question I asked you about data on the history or lack thereof of carbon emissions circa the days of Abraham for instance.

No2Atheism:
So i beg you in the name of the Creator of Heaven and Earth . . . do not come at me with the "Russian" thingy . . .

- Its your choice and decision to believe in Global Warming . . . however what i would please like you to stop is to please not even attempt to discredit something that was confirmed to be true (yes I am talking about the hacked emails which you tried to discredit with your statement).


This would most probably be my last response to your post on this thread . . . cus I am really sick and tired of seeing people dogmatically following the Global Warming nonsense . . .even though raw scientific data contradicts goes against it.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

Halllo

Do enlighten me on the data on carbon emissions into the atmosphere in 1100 BC compared to AD 2006. We could begin at that point.