9jaRealist: Noted, but still leaves the impression that so-called “hate speech” is regulated and it is merely a question of who gets sanctioned.
Your response should have noted that NOBODY at all gets sanctioned for so-called “hate speech” - neither the speaker nor the broadcaster!
That's not what her question was about. Go back and read her question and my response together. It had absolutely nothing to do with whether it was hate speech or not. It was about whether the NBC could regulate politicians/non-broadcasters, period.
hahn: But you have to admit the interviewer was an ass for that comment.
Mike was probably thinking of how to knock him out without a law suit
Mike later appeared on a radio show and the hosts of the show asked him how far back would it have been when he would have punched the interviewer. Mike said that if that had happened 6 months to a year before, that he would have knocked the guy out.
He said that the thing that really annoyed him was that the guy was calling him brother and being all chummy before they went on air. The guy said that they had to stick together and all that, but the guy changed once they got on air.
blank: Sorry to keep digging but did he mention what this discounted position is?
He spoke about it very briefly before talking about APC's promises. What he meant by discounted position was that there were some problems during PDP's time in government, but that things became rapidly worse when APC took power.
blank: What was his response to this question? Was it the APC failed promises?
This (primarily the part in bold).
naptu2: Peter Obi talks about a discounted position and then he lists APC's campaign promises. He says that the APC said that they will make one naira equal to one dollar.
Kadaria cuts him off and says that we need to be factual.
Peter Obi wanted to continue, but Kadaria says that anytime she pushes them on what they will do, they go on to talk for the APC and she doesn't want that. She wants them to says what they will do
9jaRealist: First, so-called “hate speech” is NOT barred or banned from the airwaves (TV/radio) in countries like Canada and the US.
On the contrary, the US Supreme Court has REPEATEDLY ruled that so-called “hate speech” is legally-protected speech under the First Amendment and therefore CANNOT be regulated. Furthermore, the US broadcasting regulator, the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) has also specifically held (and publishes same on its materials) that it is “barred by law from trying to prevent the broadcast of ANY point of view.” This is how CIVILIZED advanced societies (which we are not looking like being interested in becoming one) handle a multiplicity and diversity of views - it allows each view to compete in a veritable marketplace of ideas, with any sanction being the public contempt and/or moral opprobrium that is visited on despicable viewpoints.
Accordingly, what you are referencing in respect of the Mike Tyson video is NOT so-called “hate speech” but rather words/terms/acts of an “indecent nature” that while they are actually NOT banned are merely REGULATED in respect of free-to-air television and radio stations (in the US, these used to be known as the original “Seven Dirty Words”), and thus can only be aired during certain specified time periods (usually when minors would normally be asleep or would ordinarily not be watching television. However, suffice it to note that these regulations are NOT applicable to cable, pay-tv or satellite radio, and thus the broadcast of any such “indecent” words/terms/acts are NOT regulated at all in respect of the latter media (i.e., pay, satellite and cable outlets).
Democracy can be very messy, but we cannot enjoy it’s full benefits if faceless bureaucrats and sundry ‘regulators’ administratively allot to themselves (because even the Nigerian Constitution actually supposedly protects the freedom of speech) the authority to arbitrarily chill free speech and/or to opaquely decide (usually AFTER-THE-FACT without notice) the boundaries of political or public discourse and debate.
You completely ignored what my post was about and then went on a long rant about something totally different. Her question was whether the NBC will sanction the politicians and my answer was that the NBC does not regulate or license politicians so it can't sanction them. Rather it regulates and broadcasters and therefore those are the people that it can sanction.
I gave an example to show that the Canadian broadcasters regulator sanctioned the TV station, rather than Mike Tyson, because it does not regulate Mike Tyson.
Are you saying that the NBC regulates politicians??
What do you mean by Canadian law or Nigerian law??
Of course the hate speech will not be stated in the interview. (1) Different people said different things on different stations. (2) He said that the letters to the stations are on his desk. The infractions that each station committed will be stated in the letter to that particular station.
chiommy123: Shouldn't these politicians be held responsible?
NBC's job is to hold the stations responsible. They regulate the broadcast media, not the politicians.
There was an example that ocurred in Canada. Mike Tyson appeared on a TV show in Canada. He was in that region to support a charity event that the mayor was holding.
However, the mayor was being investigated for committing a crime and the TV host asked Tyson if it didn't look bad that Tyson, who was convicted of rape, was supporting another person that was accused of a crime.
The question annoyed Tyson and he started swearing on the show ( "You are a piece of sh*t". "F*ck you", etc).
The host tried to move on to another question, but Tyson kept swearing at him until they ended the interview.
The Canadian version of our NBC fined the TV station. They said that the TV station should have cut off Tyson after he swore the first time and that it was the TV station's fault for continuing the interview after Tyson swore the first time.
Another eye witness account (accompanied by pictures). Unfortunately the blogger only posted pictures of the Ibadan leg of the 7 days activity (I wish there were pictures of Lagos and Ikenne). The blogger also didn't post the names of the people in the pictures, but I can identify some of them anywhere I see them because they were always in the news in the 1980s.
The Prophetic Jeremiah of Africa Awolowo – his last journey on earth
On May 9th 1987, he set out for his last journey, when his soul departed from his body at his. About a month later on May 31, the seven days funeral rites started and ended on Saturday June 6th, his final journey.
It was a celebration of life, as people came from far and wide to celebrate the life of a great statesman. Yours truly was there too to pay my last respect, it feels like yesterday as I sat down to play back the whole events the much I can remember. It was celebration all through with songs of praise to accompany him in that last journey.
On Sunday May 31st, His last journey home commenced when, his body arrived the National Stadium through the Oworonshoki-Oshodi-Apapa expressway. It was a wet day but that did not stop the crowd who were eager to see and even feel AWO. While the body was lying in state and the crowd were eager to see the body the organisers agreed that the best option was that the pall bearers should carry the casket into the open, from its covered podium. This was done on two occasions and even with that the crowd were just not satisfied and not happy as they wanted to see and feel his body, so they started singing, “All we are saying gives us Awo.” Awo’s wife Mrs. Hannah Idowu had to come out to acknowledge the cheers of the demanding crowd and plead with them to bear, with them since it was raining.
On Friday, June 5, his body arrived Ibadan, probably to show respect that his political life started there. Ibadan received his body with salutes from their Dane-guns and shouts of Awo! The crowd was massive like never seen before; one will think that the entire Ibadan people left their homes for that honour. Everyone that has eyes, even if crippled was there to say good bye to Awo. Roof tops, balconies and tree tops were occupied. It was estimated that the crowd was over 4,000 on the street and most of the invited dignitaries and family members were dressed in white. There was a commendation service held in his honour at the liberty stadium in Ibadan, with about 50,000 people in attendance.
After the stadium, his body was received inside the church, by six member of the Wesley Group, (Awo was a life patron), the church sang “For all the saints who from their labours rest” as their processional hymn. Bishop E. A. Idowu of Lagos Cathedral read the scripture from Ecclesiastical Chapter 44 verse 1-4,7,11-15, during the fifty minutes commendation service. Between 3.00 – 3.10 p.m., there was a light shower of rain while, the Bishop of the Ibadan Methodist Diocese – Bishop T.T Solaru, was giving his sermon. At the Ibadan event, there were about 1000 policemen to help control the crowd. The body was taken to his former office as Premier in the 1950’s, the parliament building in Agodi, were a special parliamentary session was held in his honour with a funeral oration by the state Governor Colonel Adetunji Olurin, who addressed him as the “prophetic Jeremiah of Africa.”
On Saturday, June 6th, the body left Lagos for the final journey to Ikenne where it lay in state. In Ikenne, mourners peacefully filled past his body. The Rosicrucian Order (AMORC) performed their funeral rites on him, the members filed in, wearing bishop-like robes, walked round the body. Their leader Kenneth U. Idiodi, Grand Regional Administrator and President of the Rosicrucian Order in his funeral citation explained that they believe in life after death. They presented to Mrs Awo her husband apron of life. In all Awo had 14 orations. Relaxed as if he was sleeping and smiling, he was laid in the golden casket and was placed in the monologue. As his body was carried into the church, it was received with a rendition of one of his favourite tunes: “All hail the Power of Jesus’ name.” The Archbishop of the Anglican Church of Nigeria, the Most Reverend Timothy Olusofoye, in his sermon read from the Acts of the Apostles, Chapter 13, verse 36, he recounted Awo’s excellent works on earth.
The church service ended by 1. 22 pm., the SAN Members mounted a guard of honour while the bishops and other officiating ministers filed past. By 1.30 pm the SANs wheeled the casket slowly on its final exit from the church, with the recessional hymn: “Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord” and the chorus: “Glory, Glory Alleluia; Glory, Glory, Glory Alleluia; Glory, Glory Alleluia; His Truth is marching on” we all headed to the chapel-like mausoleum in his compound, his final resting place. The construction of the two level tomb was said to have cost about #400,000 then.
1st picture below) The blogger didn't identify them, but I know the first two men in the picture. They are Colonel Tunji Olurin (Oyo State governor) and Colonel John Mark Inienger (Bendel State governor). The 3rd person looks familiar but I can't remember his name. This was at the Liberty Stadium in Ibadan.
2) The crowd at the Liberty Stadium in Ibadan during a commendation service for Awo.
3) "Papa Awo Odigba" written on a section of the stadium in preparation for the commendation service.
4) Crowd on the street in Ibadan as Awo's motorcade passes by
OdefaGirl: You tried in giving updates, quotes and reactions on what was happening. Though I was watching it but u weren't mixing words while reporting. Kudos
Reporters and presenters on the BBC African Service in the 1990s could not be intimidated and they always asked tough questions (imagine asking Charles Taylor how he would like to die while you are surrounded by his fighters).
They are known for never letting an interviewer escape with an easy, false or diversionary answer (Jerry Gana was left emming and erring when Robin White interviewed him).
Kadaria went hard on all the candidates in the 3 episodes that I watched (I didn't watch Kingsley Moghalu's interview, but my friend told me that she called him out when he provided false statistics).
However, you've got nothing to fear if you are good. Robin "The Terror" White interviewed Baba Gana Kingibe when Kingibe was foreign minister and he couldn't shake him. Kingibe was calm, cool and collected.
Is there anything that you did in the privatisation policy when you were VP that you would do differently now?
Atiku says that when they were in office they made an education policy, but they did not specify punishments for states that failed to keep to the terms of the policy. He said that he would ensure that punishments are meted to states and people who fail to keep to it
Kadaria. You are in support of privatisation, but during the privatisation then, many people were laid off, like the Nitel workers and the APC government is just paying their pension now.
Atiku: In any policy there will be mistakes, but the overall privatisation policy was a success.
Kadaria says that what Obasanjo said doesn't necessarily exonerate Atiku. That it's like someone saying I want to move on, not necessarily that there was no problem originally.
Atiku says that nobody was investigated by Obasanjo as much as he was, yet Obasanjo didn't charge him with anything.
He says that if the referee didn't find any fault, then it's up to the employer to choose
A member of the audience asks if he wants to get a job and his prospective employer asks for reference from his previous employer and his previous employer says:
He goes on to quote what Obasanjo previously said about Atiku. Kadaria hurries him.
Peter Obi talks about a discounted position and then he lists APC's campaign promises. He says that the APC said that they will make one naira equal to one dollar.
Kadaria cuts him off and says that we need to be factual.
Peter Obi wanted to continue, but Kadaria says that anytime she pushes them on what they will do, they go on to talk for the APC and she doesn't want that. She wants them to says what they will do
Atiku says that he set up a micro finance bank in Adamawa which has been succesful.
Kadaria says that Atiku was VP for 8 years, but Adamawa is one of the poorest states in Nigeria.
The audience groans, but Kadaria says that she will ask the question whether they groan or not.
Atiku says that Kadaria did not find out where Adamawa was before. Kadaria says that she did her research and she has the figures of Adamawa for the past 20 years