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geekinthelead: By the military backed constitution which you all foolishly and slavishly continue to rever. B4 you even get to vote, the political parties would have selected your choice of candidate for you based on ethnicity or religion! If you can not get your head around that, then theres very little more I can say.. read your constitution properly! You were all sold into captivity in 1979, when unity became more important that equality.

It is this captivity all nigerians continue to suffer under till today!... and this will continue until such things as equality b4 the law, justice, equity and fairness become normal in a real peoples constitution!!.. until then you can all continue to suffer.. i dont care...

1) I know the constitution far better than you do. The section on federal character refers to appointed officials, not elected officials.

2) That's why we have a multi-party system. If one political party chooses its candidates based on ethnicity, we have a choice of other candidates who are not elected based on ethnicity.

3) The constitution has already been amended and the process to amend it further has begun.

4) The amended constitution permits independent candidates.

geekinthelead: rubbish!! the system within which you claim to operate those voting strategies is already preprogrammed in such a way that whether you like it or not there is no way you can avoid voting on the basis of ethnicity or religion!! try again!!..

Hahahahahahaha! Yeah right! Pre-programmed by whom? In every election there have always been candidates from a wide variety of ethnicities and religions for me to choose from, but my choice is not determined by ethnicity or religion, it is determined by ability.

gramci: The op that created this thread https://www.nairaland.com/1288242/afam4eva-why-u-take-sides should be banned for violating rule 2 of NL.

@ seun, there's need for rule 22 to take care of disgusting monikers

I second this suggestion. Indeed some people have created usernames that insult certain nairalanders. Afam, Berem and Shymex have been victims of this kind of attacks. I remember that Seun had to change someone's username from "Troublemaker" to "Peacekeeper". Something should be done about this problem.

In 1993 Chief MKO Abiola came to campaign at a venue that was just a few metres from my house. His supporters distributed a pamphlet called the "Hope 93 Pamphlet". In it were the candidates policies regarding education, healthcare, agriculture, etc

It is these sorts of things that determine who I vote for. I will take a look at those policies, then take a look at the candidate's history, determine if I can trust him to deliver on those promises and make my decision. I couldn't care less what faith the candidate professes or what part of the country he is from; the question is, can he deliver?

PeterKbaba: MEHN YOU ARE PRETTY GOOD AND SMART, YOU CAUGHT HIM RED HANDED..........

Thank you.

Herdeoye: Looks like some dumb people are posing as yorubas in here just to start an argument.

Exactly! Check the link I posted.

tintingz: F9! Wrong

Uche2006 = Becomerich = Musiwa

If you want to know what's really going on in this thread, please, I beg you, click the link below and see how one of the posters here was caught out. Have a good laugh, then come back to this thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/925208/ethnicity-religion-future-lagos-state

so finally we are moving away from the question, "Will Lagos ever have a christian governor?"

emmatok: I have been supporting your post until you. MMade the comment above.

Are saying that Yoruba Muslims are superior to Yoruba Christians.

Go check the history of the Yorubas you will always find great Christians.

Please don't allow these peeps pollute us with their religious views.

That's not what he meant. He didn't say "superior to". He meant that it "arrived before".

payless: Oyinlola was there as a military Governor between 1993 and 1996 during Abacha regime. Tinubu was there between 1999 and 2007.

yes bro. It's a mistake I saw and corrected immediately I finished posting. The correction is even reflected in what you quoted.

Mogidi: Well am going to leave you to live with your illusion that tribe or religion does not matter to an average Nigerian during elections.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Afam4eva: Is the bolded the same guy that governed Osun state?

Yes. He was military governor between 1993-1996. His regime was characterised by inaction. For the first time in my life I saw monster potholes on Awolowo Road. His excuse was "no bitumen". So I nicknamed his administration "no bitumen".

Mogidi: I see you refused to answer the crux of the matter. If religion and ethnicity plays no part, would you naptu2 allow an Igbo man to rule Lagos?

Actually, the answer to that question was in the very first word I typed. The question for me would not be "is he igbo", but can he deliver? Can I trust him? Would my life be better because of his administration?

An igbo person contested the last governorship election in Lagos. The heavens did not fall. Igbo people have won elections in Lagos. The heavens did not fall. An igbo man was finance commissioner. The heavens did not fall.

However, I would not vote for a person just because he is igbo, or yoruba, or hausa, or kanuri. The question is, "what can he deliver".

Mogidi: Apart from Otedola name me another democratically elected christian governor of Lagos state. Its impossible for a christian to rule Lagos.
Alhaji Obafemi Awolowo was not a muslim or was he?

Again you are introducing religion and bigotry into the equation. The question is not "what is his religion?" rather it is "can he deliver?"

Sir Otedola is christian. The churches had been campaigning for the return of mission schools to their previous owners. Sir Otedola did not grant this request. Tinubu is a muslim, but he returned all mission schools to the churches and even paid the school fees of students that were admitted to the schools when they were public schools.

It's not about religion, it's about your policies. It's about whether people believe you can deliver. It's about whether the people have confidence in you.

Mogidi: Same with ethnicity, how would it affect the citizens if a non indigene rules over them as long as he provides the above? This is Nigeria where Religion and Ethnicity plays a big part in who governs.

To reduce the importance of religion or ethnicity is only to score cheap political point and you know it.

Exactly! What matters is can he convince Lagosians that he is the best candidate and that he can improve their lives? Lagos has had elected and appointed public officials from different religions and ethnicities. The question is not what religion/ethnicity are they from, but can they deliver?

By the way, I'd love to know your definition of indigene.

Mogidi: Apart from Otedola name me another democratically elected christian governor of Lagos state. Its impossible for a christian to rule Lagos.
Alhaji Obafemi Awolowo was not a muslim or was he?

The question is, how does christianity or islam provide clean drinking water, good roads, good healthcare service, security, rail services, etc. Lagosians are not bigots. Lagosians are much too sophisticated for that. When we vote we ask ourselves, how will this candidate make our lives better? The candidate's religion is his personal affair. It will not give us good roads or good schools.

It's usually done to generate traffic. Some post prayers, some post fake stories, while others post obscene pictures. The pictures are usually set to the all access "public" setting. If you comment or "like" the post, it'll appear to all your friends. Most of those things are usually linked to blogs or some other money making scheme.

What has religion got to do with performance? Is it islam or christianity that will build bridges, provide drinking water, ferry services, etc?

By the way, Lagos has had christian governors in the past: Sir Michael Otedola, Mike Akhigbe, Olagunsoye Oyinlola (the worst governor in the history of Lagos), Ndubuisi Kanu, etc.

[quote author=~ZN~]I still wonder. Why can't these 21 rules be put on a thread and not in the reply box area?

It's simply taking up space and clogging that area.[/quote]Those rules have been in a thread since 2005. The result was that very few people knew about the rules. People post adverts everywhere, or spam the forum, or post blogger links and when they are banned they get angry and complain that the mods do not like them. Now the rules are in a prominent place for all to see. Nobody can claim ignorance of the rules.

Yazmin: Please spare us these conjured and concocted details. We have heard it for so many years. Have you lived in the north, where it is believed that there is a plan by the western government and their so called 'christian' counterparts to kill and make impotent the future generation of muslim via the polio and other child immunizations,so as to reduce the muslim population in future(very wild belief if I guess) hence the radical cum violent rejection by the illiterate populace of the programme. If you keep spreading this false assertions and those in the north keep believing the concocted stories by their 'malams', I guess we'd all be in a 'fools paradise'. Wisen up and use the brains God gave us....

+100

taharqa: And when last did you hear of a terrorist attack in Abuja? You think terrorists can rear their heads boldly in environments under the survelance of State security forces and critically, where the locals do not create havens for them, a la Borno ati Yobe?

The terrible thing about terrorism is that they only need to look for soft targets to create maximum fear. That's why it's difficult to defend against them. A target doesn't look like a target until it has been used. Who in the world, before 9/11 would have thought that terrorist would crash commercial jets into buildings?

The independence day blasts did not occur at Eagle Square, yet the terrorists were able to get major publicity from it.

It should be a good thing, but my only worry is security. Some of these crazy groups might want to use it as an opportunity to score points in their propaganda war with government and put terror into the hearts of citizens.

So, the transportation alternatives include the BRT (buses), LRT (rail), Eko Water Buses (ferry), LASMI cabs (taxis), Park & Ride & cycle lanes (bicycles), LCCT (Cable Car) and the renewed LMTS.

Employment alternatives include LASMI (including LASMI cabs), YES, skills acquisition centres and the technology academy.

Check out this thread "The History of Public Transportation in Lagos"; you'll see some of the alternatives and similar policies by government over the years. Unfortunately I haven't finished it, but I think I might add one more chapter tonight.

https://www.nairaland.com/1218704/history-public-transportation-lagos