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Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 4:39pm On Feb 19, 2013

[quote author=Dudu_Negro]if abacha had not recorded this we would never know what diya did or did not do. we dont know what other generals in similar circumstances in past have done since there is no recording to reveal their response in a state of vulnerability. abacha was not shocked, in fact he had a box of tissue ready, sitting next to him and it wasn't for himself. i did not see him use it one time! so i wonder if this was a common practice, if he enjoyed getting his officers into a position of weakness and vulnerability so he could secure their undying loyalty. who knows?[/quote]Quite true

Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 4:05pm On Feb 19, 2013

Abacha was not going to spare Diya. Diya was saved by Abacha's poor telephone etiquette. They called Abacha to confirm the order to execute Diya, but Abacha did not receive the call. Shortly afterwards, Abacha was dead.

Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 12:02pm On Feb 19, 2013

coogar: some junior officers in the military, the cook, the chef, butler, maids, etc - who they must have promised $10,000 each and a 10-year visa to america.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha!

Why was Zadok called to see the Chief of General Staff when Abiola died and why was it that the Chief of General Staff had no need for him at that time?

Who usually tastes Abiola's food (including tea) before Abiola eats it?

Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 11:57am On Feb 19, 2013

coogar: only unintelligible twits would write such in a rational discourse like this one. what has tribe gotta do with abacha roping his number 2 into a concocted coup?

CIA killed abiola - it was the only way to move nigeria forward else the country was at the brink of going into another civil war. hausa people wouldn't have allowed abiola a peaceful reign after abacha's death and the annual june 12 wankfest would have still continued if abiola was alive. the destiny of the country lied between the 2 actors. the only way to move the country forward in principle was to take the 2 actors out of the equation!

"CIA killed Abiola", but who were their collaborators?

Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 11:55am On Feb 19, 2013

coogar: on the night of abacha's death - jeremiah useni was the last person to have seen him. why he was never mentioned to have a hand in his death is a mystery. mustapha is too loyal to have plotted abacha's death. bamaiyi is too 2-faced: a fact well known to abacha himself. so rule bamaiyi out.....he couldn't get near abacha if he wanted!

Yes, my SSS people also suspected Useni (and they tell me that Mustapha suspected him as well).

Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 11:50am On Feb 19, 2013

He also believed that Bamaiyi killed Abiola.

After Abacha died, Lieutenant General Ishaya Bamaiyi (Chief of Army Staff) and Brigadier General Sabo Ibrahim (DMI) were travelling in the same car late one night. They only had two bodyguards accompanying them. Bamaiyi turned to Sabo and asked, "since Abacha is dead, don't you think that we should even the equation?".

Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 11:46am On Feb 19, 2013

coogar: bamaiyi did not kill abacha - abacha overdosed on drugs!

Yeah, but that's Brigadier General Sabo Ibrahim's (Director Military Intelligence) theory. Many people have their own theories.

Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 11:38am On Feb 19, 2013

juman: What of other Generals that were involved and not arrested?

Can you name them? But I'll give one example.

Another General who naturally knew about the coup was General Sabo (he should know, he was the DMI). Sabo also reported to Abacha. However, Sabo suspected that there was a coup plot within a coup plot. As DMI he got a lot of intelligence and some of this made him suspect that General Bamaiyi was also plotting to overthrow Abacha.

This is why he insists, till this day, that Bamaiyi killed Abacha.

Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 11:31am On Feb 19, 2013

coogar: you let yourself down when you type balderdash such as this one......

there was no coup - everything was a set up! abacha wanted to become a democratic president and he knew to become one, certain high-powered military officials had to be removed or jailed. how do you remove a bunch of para-military officers - then he used general bamaiyi to concoct a fake coup.........nicolo machaivelli used this method several times in his lifetime.......they roped general diya into this mess

if bamaiyi and the other hausa groups really planned a coup, they would never have trusted diya. they would never have told diya about it. they only told diya they have a 4-point demand they would like to present to abacha - of which diya told them to go ahead. he never knew the so-called demand was going to be reported as a "coup". why would a bunch of hausa generals involve a yoruba general in their coup to oust a fellow hausa? think people and stop exhibiting the characters of a rhesus monkey.

after the plot, many army officers were arrested. obasanjo that wasn't even in the country throughout the drama was also arrested. these people were the same people abacha thought would prove difficult to stop his bid of becoming a democratic president. the plan worked to the T until abacha slept with indian prostitutës. he overdosed on viagra and his heart collapsed and he died!

The "Obasanjo phantom plot" happened in 1995, while the Diya plot happened in 1997.

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Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 11:29am On Feb 19, 2013

I love General Adisa just for the way he says it as it is.

He was asked if he begged Abacha.

He said definitely he begged Abacha. People may say whatever they want when they are in the comfort of their homes, but when you are in that situation, with tanks, heavily armed NCOs around you, tell me that you will not beg. If it happens again, I will beg again.

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Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 11:21am On Feb 19, 2013

Stuff I heard in 1997 that were corroborated at the Oputa Panel.

1) One guy was lamenting the lamentations of his life! If he had been in Abuja, he would have led the team that arrested General Diya. Unfortunately, he took permission and came to Lagos the week before the coup. The guy who led the team looted enough money from Diya's house to finance the furnishing of his new flat at 1004.

At the Oputa Panel, Diya filed a petition for the return of huge sums of money that were looted from his house.

2) I was told how Diya's CSO ferried him to safety. There was a huge manhunt for both of them. I was told that the DG SSS had to radio the CSO to tell him to hand over Diya, because this is a "military matter".

At the Oputa Panel, I heard the story of how the CSO ferried Diya to safety. It was exactly the same story, except, Diya's CSO was a military officer, not an SSS operative.

3) I was told about a journalist who was arrested at the time and locked in a dungeon. I was told that the man ran mad.

At the Oputa Panel I heard the exact same story, only, this time, I heard that the journalist was last seen wandering the streets of Benin Republic, muttering to himself.

I didn't believe all these stories in 1997 (I still thought it was a set up), until I watched the Oputa Panel, circa 2000.

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Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 11:12am On Feb 19, 2013

I know that bigoted comments are part of the usual game posters play on nairaland, but courage and cowardice have nothing to do with ethnicity. On that night, people from different ethnic groups exhibited bravery (eg Diya's CSO) and cowardice. It had nothing to do with ethnicity.

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Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 11:08am On Feb 19, 2013

juman: There was nothing bad in what Gen. Diya did. He said he pleaded with Gen. Abacha to release the arrested Generals.

It was an arranged coup. Why was Gen. Bamaiyi and other involved Generals not arrested and tried?

On the Bamaiyi issue, the reason he wasn't arrested and tried is simple. He reported the coup to General Abacha (he was shocked to find out that Abacha already knew about it). It was General Abacha that ordered him to "play along".

According to law, if you have knowledge of a coup, you should report it to the Chief of Defence Staff/Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff, or your commander (for military personnel). If you are a civilian, you should report to the police. Failure to report constitutes a crime. Bamaiyi reported the coup plot to Abacha.

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Politics › Re: Video of Gen. Diya Pleading For Abacha's Forgiveness by naptu2: 10:16am On Feb 19, 2013

Much stronger evidence that there was a coup plot surfaced at the Oputa Panel (via a microphone mistake that General Diya made).

My SSS friends told me that there was actually a coup plot and gave me details of the plot (particularly the role of Diya's CSO), but I didn't believe them.

Then I watched the Oputa Panel live and heard exactly what my friends told me in 1997.

General Adisa testified after General Diya. When Diya was leaving the witness box, he whispered to Adisa to deny everything. The house microphone was off, but the NTA microphone was live. Anybody who watched the exchange heard what Diya said.

General Adisa took the witness stand and admitted that there was a coup. He said that the ** point petition that Diya referred to was tantamount to a coup, because you cannot submit such a petition to the head of state in a military regime (that's one thing I liked about Adisa. He says it as it is, no matter what's happening).

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Politics › Re: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by naptu2: 9:54pm On Feb 18, 2013

@ mods: thanks for unbanning me

Politics › Re: Bomb Blast Under Amuwo-Odofin/Festac Bridge by naptu2: 5:10pm On Feb 18, 2013

[size=14pt]PHOTOS: Bomb Blast Under Amuwo-Odofin/Festac Bridge, One Confirmed Dead, One Injured (Warning: Graphic Images)[/size]
18.02.2013, 15:04 Local

https://img.naij.com/n/02/2/today_s_blast_-_1.jpg

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[Warning: graphic images below]

UPDATE: A middle-aged businessman, Oladele Pius, was killed when a bomb which was planted under FESTAC/Mile 2 link bridge, Lagos - few metres away from his office - exploded.

According to witnesses, the sand dealer was passing by when the bomb exploded. He died on the spot.

It could not yet be ascertained whether he was actually the target of those who planted the bomb or not.

At the time of filing this report, the scene of the incident has been cordoned off by armed mobile police officers while the body of the deceased has been deposited at the mortuary.

Pius is survived by his two wives and five children.

Sources at the scene of the incident also told P.M.NEWS that the legs of a policeman who visited the deceased were shattered as a result of the explosion.

The police have confirmed the death of one person in an explosion that occurred under the Festac link bridge, linking Festac Town to Amuwo Odofin Housing Estate.

The Nigerian police say the man who died was the leader of a sand dredgers association.

The death was confirmed by the Area Commander of Area E Festac Command of the Lagos State Police Command, Dan Okoro. Mr. Okoro said the dead was a leader of the sand dredgers under the bridge.

Another source confirmed the dead to be the chairman of the association, who operate in the water under the bridge.

The police boss also said one person was injured in the blast.

The injured allegedly is a policeman whose leg was damaged in the blast.

The police bomb squad are already at the scene of the explosion, although it is not clear what the cause of the explosion is, Mr. Okoro explained.

More details later.

http://m.naij.com/news/24384.html

Politics › Re: Patience Jonathan 'Died' For 7 Days In German Hospital by naptu2: 9:00pm On Feb 17, 2013*

Circa 1987, President Babangida was ill and had to go to Germany and France for treatment. It wasn't hidden. We were told he had radiculopathy. We heard a telephone conversation he had with Admiral Aikhomu. We saw a video of the First Lady visiting the President in hospital. So much openness in a military dictatorship. Why do we suddenly have so much secrecy and lies in a democracy huh

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Christianity Etc › Re: Logicboy's Successes And Failures On Nairaland! by naptu2: 1:34pm On Feb 17, 2013

Ishilove: I attended his classes about three times and found the arguments quite distasteful. Besides, he was taking compulsory courses and I learned students stuggled to pass those courses. As a result, I abandoned that department and hightailed it to Creative Arts. Wtf?! Who needs more complications??

I'm not surprised that people struggled to pass his courses. It was probably because more time was spent debating God, than the time spent discussing topics in the syllabus.

There was a year that some people called for a meeting of all the students. "If this man mentions God, please do not respond! Time is going, exams are in a few weeks and we've spent more time discussing God".

The next lecture, Professor Anele casually says something to the effect that God does not exist. Immediately a die hard christian warrior raises his hand. You could hear the collective groan even if you were standing outside the lecture theatre.

Christianity Etc › Re: Logicboy's Successes And Failures On Nairaland! by naptu2: 1:01pm On Feb 17, 2013

In fact, you've just reminded me of some of his famous sayings

* I was ill. Some students came to my office and said that they wanted to pray for me. I drove them away and went to the health centre. The doctor gave me some powerful drugs and now I'm better. What has prayer got to do with my illness?

* Man created god, forgot that he created god and started worshipping him.

* Let me tell you, I know the bible better than most of you here. It has some good sayings and ideas, but it was written by humans and thus it is also filled with contradictions and fairy tales.

(By the way, do you know that he got married in church? I'm still trying to figure out how they convinced him to get married in church. At the wedding he was just staring at people who were praying, almost like he was thinking, these people are insane).

That I had to google his name and I found one of his famous e-mail chains on nairaland. He was responding to an interview by Pastor Adeboye.

https://www.nairaland.com/213061/fallacies-pastor-enoch-adeboye

By the way, you should have taken his class. You would have thoroughly enjoyed yourself (the debates were out of this world).

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Christianity Etc › Re: Logicboy's Successes And Failures On Nairaland! by naptu2: 11:36am On Feb 17, 2013

I have a relative who's an atheist and everybody knows that he is an atheist (there's no way that you won't know. He is very vocal about his beliefs).

The second most interesting atheist I've met in Lagos is my half Nigerian/half British friend who lived in a village for a while. He told me that he suspected that the villagers thought that he was a devil worshipper because he neither went to church or mosque.

But the most interesting and vocal atheist I ever met in Lagos is Professor Douglas Aniele (aka "Orange Man). He will spend hours "disabusing your mind about religion". I gather that his students sometimes do not get as much instruction as they should, because they spend half their lecture period arguing whether there is a God or not.

He often writes columns in newspapers espousing atheist views (eg during the debate about same sex marriage).

DR Tai Solarin.

I never met him, but he is probably the most famous and most tolerant Nigerian atheist.

Politics › Re: Obasanjo Pledges Loyalty To Jonathan’s Government by naptu2: 6:51am On Feb 17, 2013

People don't seem to realise that it is Obasanjo's style to criticise every government in power (since 1979)

Some people said he was close to Alhaji Shagari and that's why he handed over to Shagari, but Obasanjo was Shagari's biggest critic, such that Shagari had to send Umaru Dikko to Ota to find out what the problem was.

Although General Babangida often drove to Ota (alone, without any bodyguards) to see him, Obasanjo was one of Babangida's biggest critics. He told Babangida that his economic policies did not have a human face. This probably explains why Babangida decided to criticise Obasanjo's government a few years ago.

Obasanjo also often met with General Abacha, but after meeting with Abacha he would still go to the press and criticise the head of state. Abacha couldn't stomach this and set him up.

So what he is doing is not new.

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Politics › Re: No Hiding Place For Beggars —fashola by naptu2: 8:05pm On Feb 16, 2013

naptu2: Some of the skills acquisition centres:

Epe Skill Acquisition Centre
Eredo Village, Adjacent to Eredo Local Council Development Office,

Epe, Ijebu Ode Road, Eredo Epe.

Tel: 08056111965

Epe Skill Acquisition Centre
Igbo - Oye Village, off Epe- Ijebu-Ode Road.

Tel: 08033538429

Ikorodu I Skill Acquisition Centre

45, Oriwu Road, Ita - Elewa, Ikorodu.

Tel: 08023417779

Kosofe Skill Acquisition Centre

9, Folashade Ajayi Street, off Adebayo Mokuolu Street, Anthony Village.

Tel: 08034721168

Lagos Island Skill Acquisition Centre

Oja Oba Model Market Complex, Adeniji Adele Road, Lagos Island.

Tel: 08023375408

Surulere Skill Acquisition Centre

Iyun Road, Beside Police Station, off Western Avenue, Hogan Bassey, Surulere.

Tel: 01-8709118

Ejigbo Skill Acquisition Centre

Oshodi Isolo LASTMA Compound, Ejigbo Road, Ejigbo.
Tel: 08023602558

Mushin Skill Acquisition Centre

Olawoyin Street,
Off Layi Oyekanmi Palm Avenue,
Mushin

Millennium School Compound,

Karimu Laka Street,

Tel: 08023213126

Amuwo-Odofin Skill Acquisition Centre

Council Development Area

Oriade,

Ijegu

Tel: 08033486587

Shibiri Skill Acquisition Centre

Shibiri - Ekunpa Road,

Shibiri,
Ojo

Tel: 08062476097

Badagry Skill Acquisition Centre

Marina Road, Beside Divisional Libarary,

Badagry

Tel: 08023045263

Egan Skill Acquisition Centre

Egan Road, Igando Market Bus

Stop, off LASU Expressway.

Tel: 08023139747/07025292805

IBA Skill Acquisition Centre

Iba LCDA Compound,

Iba.

Tel: 08023964301

Ikor

Aga, Ikorodu.
Tel: 08023417779

Ibeju Lekki Skill Acquisition Centre

Orimedu Town,

Off Eleko Beach,

Ibeju Lekki

Women Development Centre

Oba-Akinjobi Road,

Pen Cinema Agege,

Isheri Rehabilitation/Skill Acquisition Centre

Opposite Sweet Sensation,

Isheri-Olowoira,

Ojodu, Berger.

Politics › Re: No Hiding Place For Beggars —fashola by naptu2: 8:00pm On Feb 16, 2013

The costumes that are used during the Lagos Carnival are also made at the skills acquisition centres (they are paid for by sponsors).

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Politics › Re: Pictures Of Nigeria In 1967 by naptu2: 7:44pm On Feb 16, 2013

Top Lager Beer cheesy

Now I remember Skoll Lager Beer.

Celebrities › Re: Azeezat's New Photos. by naptu2: 7:30pm On Feb 16, 2013

She always reminded me of Zhane (especially in their "Sending My Love" video). I think they deliberately set out to look so ugly that they looked beautiful. I always felt the same way with Azeezat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx3AD9VmN9k

Celebrities › Re: Azeezat's New Photos. by naptu2: 6:53pm On Feb 16, 2013

Azeezat Niniola Allen

Celebrities › Re: Azeezat's New Photos. by naptu2: 5:20pm On Feb 16, 2013

Azeezat - Hold On

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNQ0Hy2lFuQ

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Celebrities › Re: Azeezat's New Photos. by naptu2: 4:35pm On Feb 16, 2013

She looks much better now.

Back then although she was . . . (I don't want to use the word ugly), she was so . . . That she actually looked beautiful.

But anyway, it doesn't matter. She made wonderful music. When's her next album coming out?

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Politics › Re: b by naptu2: 4:12pm On Feb 16, 2013

musiwa10: from what I see, someone hire you to frame me as a terrorist.. Well tell that person. He will go to jail.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! My aching head and stomach!

Now this is classic Becomerich.

Politics › Re: NIMET 2013 Excessive Rainfall Predictions by naptu2: 2:02pm On Feb 16, 2013

otokx: Does NIMET have a functional website?

http://www.nimetng.org/

Sports › Re: Fashola Splashes N54.5m On Super Eagles by naptu2: 7:31am On Feb 16, 2013

1) Charity: The NFF are partners with the SOS Children's Village (orphanage) and the Eagles usually donate money to the orphanage anytime they have a home game.

2) Although admittedly I do not know the source of these funds, but I'm against governments paying professional sports people. That is the job of sponsors. The government should concern itself with sports development. It should provide facilities and coaches at primary and secondary schools and also sponsor tournaments for schools. Professional sports can always get sponsors to fund their activities, but school sports and sports development is not glamorous enough to attract adequate sponsorship.

I thought this was Fashola's philosophy too when he declared that government would not fund a revival of Stationery Stores, but would prefer that private investors take up the challenge.

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