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tctrills:
Trump got everything he wanted from this.
What did Iran get from this, please tell us?

Clown! Oya let's get into it then. What Trump wanted vs what Iran wanted.

Let's list them. Let's see if you know what you are talking about.

tctrills:
Nairaland boys, you kids never change. Even in defeat, you keep talking.
The world is witnessing the actions of one of its greatest leaders. We have seen one of the greatest military success but somehow it's a failure to you.
Trump got everything he wanted from this.
What did Iran get from this, please tell us?

Show us the military success! You mean all US based in the Middle East wiped off the map?

That kind of success?

benalvino3:
Iran buckled 😂😂😂

Hehehe. Iran buckled? Typical MAGA sheep.

TACO tacoed...... again.

DeepSight:
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You dont seem to understand the comparisons being made.
The USA and Israel, two globally recognized military powers with the best technology and finances behind them bar none, both nuclear armed, have been fighting a vastly poorer and limited nation for over a month now, a nation which has been limited from its own skies and a nation suffering from half a century of international sanctions. A nation thus ordinarily not expected to be able to put up a fight considering the odds. And not only is that nation still standing, it is drawing blood from its enemies militarily in a way which has never happened to those enemies before, and it is drawing blood economically from the entire world.

This is not about comparing casualty figures, those figures were always gonna be the way the are. The reality however, based on expectations and any sane assessment of who holds the real leverage now, is simply different.

How many countries would still be standing against these two powers? Especially after several levels of leadership were taken out at the onset. Not many.

That's why I told him that his capacity for analysis is extremely deficient. I have posited this over several posts.

For the clear-eyed, you can see the premise of the discussions, but like Trump and MAGA dog-sh1t, they are only interested in scores and never actually long-term cause, effects, and consequences.

raumdeuter:
It is only a slow person that would see all the leaders of Iran being wiped out while Israeli and American leaders are walking freely yet thinks Iran is winning

See what you are celebrating, where is Iran Navy, where is Iran military, How many Iranian assets have been destroyed

Where are the leaders of Iran? Trump is in DC, Netanyah is in Tel Aviv. Where is your cardboardtollah

The US military that has been touched is what your NATO leader are coming to beg next week

Why don't you tell us where the Iranian Navy is. Sebi you believe Trump that it is all obliterated?

US Intelligence is reporting that they think only 1/3rd of all Iranian assets have been destroyed. They THINK!!!

Mind you, they are only having a guess at stockpile, not production and/or restock capacity.....

... but I bet you believe Trump. So let's ask you... are they obliterated 100% or are they not?


Calling you slow is being kind. Your capacity for serious analysis is immensely deficient. ...


The purpose of showing you American losses is to highlight that you guys got high on your own supply fighting insurgents, women and children...... but never really at war with a country that can actually shoot back.

This means the US cannot actually ever be at war with a near peer without catastrophic consequences.... Far more importantly, is that The US lacks the capacity to fight a multi-front war of attrition with an actual military that can shoot back.

This means US' power is eroded. You cannot exert force over China and Russia if you can't over Iran......and the consequence of that is eventually your own pockets.

But you cannot see this.... you are worried about those that can walk around in public.

raumdeuter:
The Ayatollah born in 14000 yet was hiding from death from bunker to bunker if he desired death like you are making it be, he would be in the public not hiding

After the ayatollah many of Irans cabinet have been wiped off. How many Israeli or American leaders have been touched? This is what you call coming out stronger, Ask those who have been sent to the world beyond if they are stronger and would not prefer a US president who will send them cash and flowers

Ayatollah is dead and gone courtesy of Mr Trump.

The current Ayatollah is a cardboard image, The cardboardtollah has not been seen in public since. Neytanyahu is out going around in public, Trump is out going arund in pblic, when will either the old Ayatollah or cardboardtollah come out in public

All your emotional rant about pdf, liar, Fuhrer is just your emotions playing on you, Americans do not care, which is why they voted him twice

Its when you lack the points to argue logically that you start all those liar PDF, liar , stewwpid fuhrer, It sounds like you are having a meltdown

Lack points to argue? Are you slow?

I told you Trump just lifted sanctions against Iran, and Trump just lifted sanctions against Russia oil ..... making those two countries the biggest beneficiaries of the war so far......you have no response. But you are telling me I don't have the points to argue?

😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

You are a clown bro.

Guess what? Iran just downed yet another fighter jet, this time around another F15....... the whole crew is missing.

This means Iran has destroyed 4 x F15, 3 x F35, 2 x E-3 AWACS, 5 x KC-135s, 13 x MQ9s...... air-borne equipment alone. And this is all we know that Centcom can not deny.

No one has touched America like this in the modern age.... Trump has exposed the US and deflated its perceived military might.

... but your trophy is Ayatollah 😀😀😀😀😀😀

raumdeuter:
where is the Ayatollah BTW, Trump did that, he sent him to Hades. Him and many of his lieutenants are now dead from Trumps bombs

While Trump is asking the NAT countries to keep their end of the bargain which had US support them for years and funded them even in wars that had nothing to do with US

Why should NATO continue to hold US in esteem? Ask the NATO chief coming to see Trump next week. The real people who wear the shoe know the US holds the security cards not internet trash talkers

Ayatollah was born in 1939. He's older than the state of Israel. And so he sat in his studio, not hiding from the bombs when they came. But you are getting dopamine rush from his supposed "assassination".

Ayatollah is dead and gone. Deal with the facts of the living. The chaos created by Mr PDF.

His decision-making over the last 4 decades has put his country in a place to go head-to-head with the US and Israel at the same time, coming out 10 times stronger only after 4 weeks.

On the other hand the PDF Fuhrer has humiliated the US on the world stage with his persistent lies.

How steuwpid do you think he looks when he gets behind the podium and declares that Iran is 100% decimated, then Iran launches the biggest salvo of missiles (150 missiles) at Israel within the same hour.

You might not consider such blatant lying as criminal, but the rest of the world does. Why would anyone want to fight alongside a compulsive liar and conman?

raumdeuter:
Trump is not making the Ayatollah laugh, The Ayatollah would probably prefer to have had another US president not Trump.

Americas military influence is still as strong as ever, Actually next week your NATO leader is coming to beg Trump as usual. WHy would you think NATO leaders are still coming to beg a country with compromised military influence

Better wearing a red hat that having colored hair

Strong as ever? Hehehe. Go tell that to the GCC countries who are crying and begging for help, not being able to stop Iranian missiles.

You know I just told you that you don't know facts.......As far as the truth is concerned, only one person was doing beggy beggy for NATO to join to open the strait of Hormuz, after showing the US to be incapable of curbing Iran, let alone decapitating them.

Why should NATO continue to hold the US in the esteem of yore? If anything, people are going to be copying the Iran defence model seeing as it neutralises the US' offensive capability at 1/50th of the cost.

Trump has lifted economic sanctions on Iran. Iran is now cutting energy deals directly with American allies, completely bypassing the US, since the deals are managed to be settled in Chinese Yuan. Cine Yuan!!! As if that was not enough Trump lifted oil sales embargo on Russia. Two almost impossible outcomes only 5 weeks ago.

Ayatollah is laughing his head off wherever he is. He couldn't have wished for another President.

raumdeuter:
By destrying those who are committed to Americas death. The Ayatollah and his cabinet

I laugh in Ayatollah.

Trump, if anything, has completely compromised America's hegemony, along with its economic and political security plus its military influence all over the world by entering this war.

For instance, Trump has single-handedly turned Iran from a country ravaged by American sanctions, on its knees, to an undeniable worldwide economic power broker in only 4 weeks.

Remove your red hat.

drisham:
Good afternoon sir

Hey bro, no vex o. I will email you in a bit now.

raumdeuter:
At least you can recall that I didnt support Trump till recently.
When I considered the alternative left I saw that Trump was the better option. I supported Biden and he became the biggest let down in history

Unlike you, I change my opinion based on the facts available to me, I dont stick to it even when they prove to be bad. I hoped Biden would be a better president would rule from the center but he was a big disappointment

I can acknowledge that Jan 6 was a terrible day in the countrys history and still see that the left are insane people who should never be in power. If a centrist Biden can be that bad, then there is no trusting any leftist

Guy, you did not change your mind based on any facts. You are allergic to facts. You don't know facts. If you did, then you hate facts. Your whole system now is corrupt, you cannot even identify FACTS, if it smacked you in the face.

Trump is not a choice. Never a choice. Anyone that calls Trump a choice is just deep-rooted in cultism. Nothing about Trump changed from when you opposed him.... if anything, he got worse, like I said he would.

To put it mildly, he's a disgusting, lying, fat-faced dishonest, abusive, child-defiling, morally- bankrupt, low-life ninjah.... but you are talking about facts.

What FACTS?

raumdeuter:
Hypocritical how? The war in Iran is about Americas security, and you cannot have a prosperous economy if you do not have security

Tell me how the war has enhanced American security.

bayelsaowei:
What then happened to him?

😃

Are you serious bro?

We were side-by-side on Jan 6th on this same platform, criticising the hell out of Trump. He even thought that was the end of Trump in the Conservative Party at the time, when I told him Trump was going to make a comeback.

He was mentally healthy.

Then he became the greatest MF'ing shape-shifting ninjah I know.

budaatum:
You don't agree with everything she says and neither do I. Especially the bit where she says Nigeria might have been better off it had stayed colonised longer.

Because that's like saying slaves would have been better off if they had remained slaves longer, and you know I'd rather die than live as anyone's slave.

You sometimes wonder what's wrong with these guys.

We should stay colonized more because of a few fancy roads.

IjeBos:
How the goal posts shift.

Correct goal post shifting and completely lacks awareness.

bemeruca:
I am not advocating for anything. I said I wish we did not have all these ethnicities, that's all. That there are so much conflicts because we don't see each other as one.

You already agree with this. So you can argue with yourself

Sir, your intellect cannot be this shallow.

Surely you can what he's trying to tell you. You are insisting on ethnicity being the root cause of conflict..... he's showing you examples of numerous intra-ethnic conflict, but you continue to pauldron garbage.

What exactly are you advocating for?

happney65:
The Pentagon is preparing for weeks of ground operations in Iran, U.S. officials said.

It would fall short of a full-scale invasion and could involve raids by a mixture of Special Operations forces and conventional infantry troops, said the officials.

News

Sadly, most of them are going straight to their deaths.

ono:
You know what? Let's wait for him to come and disprove this claim. Is that OK?

Why? What does it matter to this thread if is true or false?

Why the ph0.uck does it matter to this thread?

ono:
Bas, Raum, Benalvi, check this out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Witt

I found out after reading this:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/the-iranian-spy-recruitment-hub-operating-in-london/ar-AA1ZC8xU?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=90a84178cdfa46c68914a70647bbe2c0&ei=10

Are you pointing out something that MOSSAD, The CIA and MI6 haven't been doing four decades?

basilico:
So there should be no Iran oil. 90% goes to China. If it won't go there Chinese will be forced to bid for higher prices from other nations driving the global prices up.

Please don't provide false narratives after the fact. The fact is stu3p1d Trump never reads and yawns through security and intelligence briefings. When I said it here multiple times, e.e.ed10t5 like you thought it was conspiracy.

If he read or paid attention, how did he miss that an attack on Iran will lead to asymmetric war by way of attacks on the GCC countries, followed up by closure of the Strait of Hormuz? The effect of that was immediate spike in oil prices due to a stranglehold on supply. Even I mentioned this many times.

Now you are telling us he made a move to counter events he was already told will happen upon a strike.

Why do you think previous Presidents chose diplomacy?

The Houthis have officially entered the war.

raumdeuter:
Trump can only be taken for his words and He said NO NEW WARS. The mess of Iran created 47yrs ago he is trying to fix it. He has not started any NEW WAR but fixing the rot previous admins created

Your limited understanding is your problem and it goes everywhere from perentages to logic to nuance

Mr Pretzels. How is he trying to fix it?

Tell us.

bemeruca:
People say he is good at making jokes. The guy is funny

He's only funny to unintelligent people.

Konkoja:
Trump to become first president to have signature on every dollar bill https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15683213/Trump-signature-dollar-bill.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

The vanity, vainness and nothingness of this man is beyond childish. This is mental illness.

He's mentally ill. Chronically, mentally ill.

His supporters are shackled by the same mental illness.

They are all suffering from TDS - Trump Daddy Syndrome.

IDF Chief of Staff: The IDF is collapsing on itself.

Me: World peace is within reach.

budaatum:
Some do believe that others believe in talking snakes, so they believe they beat their wives because of a verse in a god book.

They themselves do not love their own neighbours however, like they read they must in verses in their own god book, but I guess that's because their god book might not be as convincing as the Quran except when they are using their own god book to grab land.

Except when they are using their own god book to grab land.

Succinctly put.

drisham:
Good evening sir

I replied sir.