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Nihilist:
So you mean that Jose shackled this same team that won the league while scoring more goals than 18 other teams last season?

Wow...

Are you sure the boys are not now being coached by Mary Mary?

Look, Nihilist, regardless of what differing opinions we have on the issue, this is how it works. Once Jose lost the respect of his players, the only way was OUT! End of story.

Whether I feel they were shackled or not will continue to be argued for a long time.

I maintain to you, over and over that last season was not as glossy as you always make it seem. This point always seems conveniently left behind for just the numbers. Yes we did win the league but stumbled to the finish line after the loss to Tottenham. City were bottlers, United were lost in the desert and Arsenal were just well. . . Arsenal.

Rumours of players not liking the system they play in and the ultra defensive football surfaced last season. People ignored.

Players like Remy will not believe what they have to do to play. Especially when he sees a dead Falcao barely able to trap the ball. Imagine all the players who felt Ivanovic should be dropped. Even fans could see it. Jose persisted. If this irked ordinary fans, how about players?

Many stupid things he did that I cannot begin to count, no time!

Now people are making it seem like this sh1t came out of nowhere?

Make una spare me.

bigkesh:
So the real P were these Bastards......


I don't know why I will lose and risk UCL football and Trophies just to bring my manager down......

You are barking up the wrong tree. Let's assume for a moment that this theory is true. The players just magically became the problem abi?

They all probably met at a restaurant in West London and decided, without any prior reasons, that they were going to stop playing.

People should stop perpetuating this falsehood. When people like us have been screaming for years say Jose too like to dey talk and fight, some will respond to you saying, he is handling the media.

You think say person wey like trouble, na only outside im dey find trouble?

raumdeuter:
Chelsea leading 2-0 without a coach

The only Mole in the team has been sacked

I am sure some fans here would prefer Chelsea to stick with Mourinho and lose than sack him and win

You too dey talk. Left to some, make we continue. By now, we'll be 0-0 with Sunderland playing with all purpose and belief that they can walk away from thus with at least a point.

Others are directing their anger towards Hazard asking him to be sacked. Like say na Hazard cause problem.

See the players expressing themselves without feeling shackled. If these players dey play like this, how much more Hazard?

Gooaallllllll 2-0

Dongorgon5:
Then why did you quote me
Stay on your Lane Biiitch

Mate, tone down the tension and review your use of language or we get you out of here ASAP.

Griffon:
As much as I feel it was the right decision, I still feel sorry for Mou because as talented as he his, I fear his arrogance and petulant nature will always get him into trouble and make him lose more respect. From the Caneiro's row to some baffling tactical calls, it was quite clear Jose was asking for a sack. I wish him well though.

We have a very good record of winning a trophy after sacking the manager. Only Avram Grant didn't win any but took us to our 1st CL final. So I am not too worried.

God bless you Lacer. Some yobs on Twitter saying something like "I would have preferred Chelsea gets relegated with JM than let him go . . . ."
Seriously?

Dhelake:
Lol, Just Lol

Ronaldo started scoring 50+ goals per season under Mourinho

Even if u hate Jose ... All this rubbish you put up doesn't change anything

Ronaldo had his highest ever goal scoring season under Jose by playing in front of a right footed left back as you have asserted , by making 10 sliding tackles per game .

Alhaji, please review and understand the context of the argument before you begin dey foam for mouth.

You will need extra-terrestrial deliverance if any part of you thinks that Messi, an unfinished youngster at the Chelsea's academy, who loved to eat meat, party with the Brazilians, who displayed a lackadaisical attitude towards training, watched Argentinian matches till late at nights and showed generally, an insipid attitude towards professionalism would have had Jose take him under his wings, have patience with him, show him what good is from bad, vow not to loan him out, review videos with him in one-on-one sessions, give him 51 games and not just that, give him 51 games in one season outside a tactical straight-jacket.


You are comparing this scenario to one of Ronaldo who had already scored 42 goals (3 seasons before he met Jose) in the world's most competitive league and was already WPOTY.


Alhaji abeg. You either don't know JM very well or as the others, you belittle the immense influence of Pep's off-field and on-field actions towards Messi's greatness.

I can tell you confidently that Messi would not have been this Messi under Jose Mourinho. He would have had to track back to the 18 yard box to help his defender every 2 mins, been shouted at when not seen making 10 sliding tackles per game, he would have been playing in front of a right-footed left-back or a left-footed right-back and will need to sprint 80 yards to the opposition goal every 5 mins, to register a shot on goal.

So yes, it can be said Pep's use of Messi, made Messi into the player he is today.

Hiddink looks official. Australian FA announcing this. Welcome my man.

Make the new guy no come dey play Ramires o. Even if na my guy Hiddink, I go vex for am.

Nihilist:
Hasnt stopped some coaches doing what? Abi what are you going on about?

Jose has now been sacked from 2 clubs that are notorious for players undermining their manager

Jose is not the first Madrid manager to be sabotaged by his players

He's not the first Chelsea manager to be sabotaged by his players either...

Let me tell you what will happen should Jose take the job at United next season.
He will have 200% of the board's support. He will be allowed to spend 100s of millions.
He will spend 100s of millions of one-time wonders, work-horses and average Joes.

These average Joes will run into the ground for him. The will win the league. United fans will be happy winning the league again, being consistent at the top. Compared to where they have been in recent years, it's glory days again.

He will organize them at back the back. They will be ultra defensive and admirable but as always, very lacklustre going forward.
He will manage to convince them pragmatism wins. He will win the hearts of some.

The next season, the fights will begin. He will take a pop at Wenger and now Chelsea.
He will fight the media, the referees and anyone in between, the moment they lose. Some of his fans will still like him, some will stop.

He will park the bus against Chelsea, City, Arsenal. This is where the anger will begin.
Die-hard United fans will crave expansive football once again. He will not change.
He will not bring any young player through, the work horses will start to fail.

Blaming will begin. He probably finishes the season winning the league again.

Third season, full blown fight against everyone. The workhorses (the usual 11 - the untouchables) stop performing.
United fans demand better football to the eye, despite just winning the league.

More public fights. Blames. Name calling. Fans of other clubs start to hate United because of JM. People call them classless. United's PR suffers a blow. Boards' backing drops to 70% . . . .

Beginning of the end.



Nihilist, what do you think will happen with Jose when he gets to United? Remember that this will a club not notorious for undermining their manager.

sephia:
You must spend money to compete. It's no longer shameful to admit that. Every club spends big now, even Barca.
Ten Mourhinho's wouldn't have won the league cup if they came into the club before Roman bought it.

Thank you for taking the words right out of my mind.

Nihilist:
Of course the coach is the common denominator in the 2 cases...he is the one who got snitched isn't he?

Mourinho's methods are not for everyone and not everybody will like him. That's not new.

The issue here is that his subordinates are so powerful that they can undermine him if they feel they don't like him or his methods.

Ferguson was known to be very harsh to his players. He even used boot to bust David Beckham's head...Yet not one single player could dare go to the club chairman and threaten to walk if SAF wasn't fired like Sergio Ramos and Casillas did. Ferguson would not keep mention 'betrayal' and 'rats' to the media...He would have slaughtered the offending players like ileya meat.

That's because Ferguson had something that only Arsene Wenger has in football today - The complete and utter backing of the board.

No other manager in the world has that. And someone as abrasive as Mourinho definitely needs the boards backing 200%.

The man came to win. Not to make friends with his boys....

Football is probably the only industry where you can sack your line manager if you don't like him...

Speaking of line managers...mine is now away till the new year. I can now remove my tie and maximise my incognito window . Just imagine if I could sack him for the tone of some of his emails...

Nihilist have you ever wondered why only Chelsea fans and those who have a soft spot have this view about JM?
The truthful answer will tell you why Jose will never get any board's 100% backing.

In most cases, if you are not a Chelsea fan, you dislike Jose. Not for his performances but his attitude.
The same is hardly echoed about Ferguson.

nitlad:
E pain me shar.


I just hope we finish strongly, because that's the only way this decision can make sense in retrospect.


By the way, Nateevs and BlueDiva,

You guys have never taken to Mourinho; with the benefit of hindsight, seeing the total package that he brings, would you guys have touched him with a long pole from the outset?

If I didn't know any better, I'd be questioning how you can loathe someone who has contributed in no small measure to the recent successes of the Club this much.

I don't loathe him. I totally dislike his methods. And I always go on record saying his ways cannot be sustained and that his sacking is almost always inevitable unless he leaves voluntarily after 2 seasons. By his second year, he is already having fights with everyone around and going from the most loved and respected by his players to having a toxic dressing room and looking a proper villain in their eyes.

3rd season on, it is happening again.


I thank him for contributing "in no small measure" to the club's successes in the recent years but I thank the £500m spent by Roman in the same period, even more.

raumdeuter:
Cheslea 2007: The players conspired and sabotaged him

Madrid 2013: The players conspired and sabotaged him

Chelsea 2015: the players conspired and sabotaged him

Is this story not getting stale?

Fixed.

Why now?

I say it's a statement of intent by Roman. Although it took a long time to reach this decision, indicating that Roman did want to keep him. Letting him go right now emphasizes the fact that even though the transfer window is only a few weeks away, Jose is not really trusted to spend wisely. Hence results will not improve.


It is the only conclusion I can reach.

Nihilist:
You actually have been saying the same thing for years, and that shows consistency, I'll give you that..

Because you have been consistently wrong.

Jose has set point records in Portugal. He set point records in England. He set point records in Spain. That is not the hallmark of someone who cannot coach attacking football.

Last season Chelsea scored the second highest amount of goals in the league and averaged around 57% possession for the season. That is not the hallmark of a coach who only knows how to defend.


The same Jose that beat Guardiola's Barca 3-1 with Inter does not know how to attack?


Jose is not like all the other coaches in the world. He is extremely pragmatic and does what needs to be done. He's less interested in losing beautifully when he can win ugly.

And because he is not a slave to any football ideology, people continue to perpetuate this myth about him not understanding attack.

This is very similar to the myth around Simeone, and Dayo showed only yesterday that Athleti only park the bus against a select few sides, and actually are in the top 5 (or 10?) for possession in Europe this season

So you can keep saying it for the foreseeable future, but It will be just a myth. It's not true.The facts simply do not support it.

I was just about to have a discussion about this. I suppose it will not matter anymore.

Nihilist:
Jose is media savvy...he picks his words wisely for maximum impact...but what he said might have a ring of truth to it.

John Terry was co-presenting with Jamie Redknapp for the Manyoo-Bournemouth game and they reviewed the corner that led to the Cherries 2nd goal.

It was an incredibly complex movement that you would never spot if you didn't know what you were looking for.

It involved one guy making a run to clear space, and another one who looked like he was marking the keeper quickly running to told fellaini before Josh King ran in to swipe the ball.

They even identified the signal the corner taker made to initiate the move.

Then John Terry said that Jose had made the boys aware of that particular move and that they spent 3 days practicing against it. That kind attention to detail is mental.

Jose on Monday stated that he had identified 4 passages of play that Leicester usually score from and the boys had practiced against them.

According to Jose, the 2 goals conceded came from moves he had identified and coached the team against. How do you explain that?

I'm too sure that these boys are not sticking to the script. I'm just not sure why. And that's why he may not be completely lying by claiming he overachieved with these lads...

This post here proves my whole point. How many times have I heard this before? even from the time of AVB being Jose's scout. You hear this "attention to detail" thing the players band about with Jose's methods. From Terry, to Lampard, to his coaches.

But pay attention and you will discover that this attention to details is always directed to the defensive side of the game. Preventing the opposition from scoring.Tell me how many times we ever heard an attacker praise Jose for this attention to detail "IN ATTACK"?

I mean an attacker on TV, detailing how Jose instructs the movement of ball through the channels; how he instructs players ahead of play to move; how he instructs players to move into space;

What we always hear and see is the clear display of Jose's preference for stopping the opposition rather than attacking it. Even Hazard complained last season, that our only game plan in attack is to give the ball to him. Aha!


And this sums up the whole thing - my consistent argument for many years.


Yes he prepped the guys to counter Leicester's attacking prowess but what happened when the plan failed? The obvious response was to go attack and get a goal. What did we do in attack? Absolute Zilch! How were we to even the scores without scoring?

I don't buy this players are not playing to instructions thing. The truth instead is that players in defense have lost confidence. So instead of concentrating on more defensive tactics, let's see if we can maintain the same level of defense and then try to bail ourselves out by outscoring the opposition.

The reality though is that this is never going to happen. So please expect the slump to continue. Brace yourselves!



I repeat, when your whole methodology is predicated on preventing the opposition from scoring, then one day when that defensive unit is faulty (as it is now), you will find it difficult to win games because the very fundamental element that wins games (goal-scoring) has been consistently absent.

Nihilist:
This kind of thinking is just funny. Leicester are sitting pretty at top of the table and have the two hottest attackers in the league. Combined value counts for nothing...Leicester have to be given the respect they deserve. I don't think you watched Leicester v Arsenal earlier this season. Despite Arsenal passing the ball around sleekly given their better passers, Vardy still put 2 past them.

It is not funny thinking Nihilist. Combined value counts for all things mate because in most cases than not, this is the norm. Forget what is happening Leicester, their case is a grand anomaly. Let Leicester try this sh1t next season with the same squad quality and depth in the PL, CL, FA Cup and League Cup. They have to enter market and buy better players and bang! combined value goes up.

Secondly it does not matter that Vardy put 2 past Arsenal, what mattered on the day is that Arsenal put 5 past Leicester. And this proves my point. We couldn't create a single chance for almost 40 mins if not more.

The bulk of our problem has been that we don't create near enough chances. It is a good option to play counter-attacking football against a superior side. But when that is your ONLY game plan, you will have problems against resolute defences. THIS has been our problem for 3 seasons.

JustKay3:
He(Nihilist) was actually referring to a stop-gap,temporary "fix" till the team gets his swagger back.I think.

You miss the point. The true state of things is that when the team had its "swagger", we were playing counter-attacking football. This is how we played for much of last season. There was no time I saw it and didn't complain. stating several times that this method will come back to bite us in the butt.

So terrible that when we were 11 v 10 against PSG last season in the CL, the boys were lost, we didn't know how to take advantage because we never went into the game to attack.

When I said many weeks ago that we were in a proper relegation fight, some thought I was exaggerating. When I also mentioned in the same post many weeks ago, that we had a fundamental problem, one that has existed for long time, one of a very blunt attack, unable to penetrate resolute defences and create chances, I was told I was exaggerating.

A few victories against weak teams made some folks carried away. Fast forward to December, the problems exist. Watch how Leicester build up to the first goal, moving the ball through the middle with swift passes and movements and tell me we play like that. I will state it for the umpteenth time, this is beyond Jose Mourinho. Jose lacks the fundamental concepts of developing attacking play. This is the only reason why you have Hazard, Pedro, Willian, Remy, Oscar, Costa and Nihilist thinks that counter-attacking football is our strongest set-up.

Those players alone have a combined value of £145m - more expensive than the whole of the Leicester team, 3 times over and the best way to beat them is to sit back and concede possession? Wonders shall never end.

It's a simple concept. When your idea of winning is predicated upon the opponent not scoring first, then one day when that defensive unit is faulty (as it is now), you will win few matches because the fundamental concepts of building attacks to create chances and score goals has been absent. You have little to nothing to rely on.

This concept only works for one or two seasons and that is why this fella has never been found out. When the true test of building a dynasty is upon us, this method of winning will not stand the test of time. It is a method built 'ONLY' on defensive organization; nothing more.

I don't dispute that Jose is an astute organizer but without dispute, managers like Bielsa, Wenger, Pep, Ferguson, et al will make a formidable attacking unit out of these players.

I am glad no one is still claiming the players are not playing for Jose. What's the excuse now?

Hehehe.

sephia:
Do you consider Neymar an 'agile' player?

mithel:
Rumours going round that Emenalo might be the one to get the sack.

Ibime don go church for thanksgiving

Ibime has slaughtered an Ewu on the altar of Amadioha.

mithel:
I would add that Mourinho's management of our youth players must be the worst among all other managers we have had.

Case study: Lukaku. I read someone talking about players been ready to commit to training and all, I follow Lukaku on Twitter, the kind of motivation he had to play for us was so high, but what happened mou brought an aging Eto'o to push back his development, I think that was the most demoralising thing could have ever done to the boy. Even me wey dey house was like FFS etoo, not even with all the stuff he had said about Chelsea earlier. Mourinho alienated Lukaku from Chelsea bit by bit till the boy didn't care about following in his mentors footsteps(Drogba) again.

Bertrand (if I add PvA, you lots would judge him with Sunderland ) : It's a normal story waiting and bidding for your time because a legend in your position is still at the club, but it's another when one manager puts enough faith in you to give you a debut in a UCL final and with the legend gone, another deems it fit to play a RB in your position or even go ahead to get a 29 year old washed up LB to fill your space on the bench.

Those are just 2,these examples are shining lights for those boys in the academy and those on loans, these players were supposed to be the sign that if you go on loan and play well, you have a chance at the club, but alas even the best of them weren't given the chance, what is left, a bunch of demotivated players,ready to continue extending their contracts and enjoying their loans spells.

Players like Josh, chalobah, piazon have already been lost to that demotivated and demoralised pit, hoping kalas(better that Djilobodji), baker(better than mikel), RLC (someone called him don Gordon, lol what is he supposed to do, imagine having a good performance, then the manager ships you off at half time because he ain't got balls), bamford(who started training earlier than most of our players this season,-(was on Twitter and Instagram)... Don't fall into that pit too.

Now that's a point of view still not considered yet - the psychological impact. It's not mental weakness when a young player gets demoralised by insufficient chances to prove themselves, when they are behind an in-form world class player. What is crazily heart-breaking is when a manager would rather play a RB in your position in a dead-rubber game than give you chances; when a manager would rather buy an ex-service man and push you down the pecking order and/or when you sit on the bench and watch the drivel being delivered by the likes of Falcao, knowing your output is not far off, yet not given any chances to try.

This impact is invisible and cannot be measured. If someone like Lukaku (the seemingly ready type) can get demoralised by such events, imagine those younger.

Nihilist:
Again very logical rebuttal, with just one comma...Is Bamford the Crespo of 2015?

It's one thing to angry at Falco if he was blocking the obvious tested and certified talent of Lukaku who had gone out on loan in the EPL and impressed.

Its another thing to be angry at Falcao blocking the chance of an untested entity who we want to be good, but lack evidence to justify our continued goodwill.

Quite simply, for us to to start dubbing or even insinuating that Bamford is Crespo reborn, he should have done some very Crespo-like things at EPL Level...which unfortunately for him, he hasn't.

And therein lies the premise of my argument. Zouma's shot at the first team was justifiable by his completion of 3 full seasons in ligue 1 before he turned 20. Hazard was 21 when he joined our starting 11....His inclusion in the first team was justifiable.
Bamford is older than those two were when they entered our first team. He cannot start at Palace. Should we be trying to give him piecemeal minutes and hope for the best, when its so obvious what kind of youngsters we need?

It'ss not about youth integration. It's about the right youth integration sir Nateevs. And that's all I keep saying...we don't have the right youth!

I'll stop now before this gets tooo boring for everyone else

Perhaps I should put it this way, it doesn't matter who it is. It doesn't have to be Bamford. It could be Ogedengbe for all I care. It's the same principle.

And sorry Nihilist, the likes of Lukaku and Zouma don't fall under this category. I mean I don't really care how many seasons Zouma has played in some league somewhere, he was bought for phocking £12m. To put things in perspective, that's more expensive than each of Cahill and Ivanovic cost, even when you factor in inflation over the years. So no mate, if he was not going straight into the team, someone needs to be fired.

The same applies to Lukaku. Someone will need to be buried alive if Lukaku cost Chelsea up to £17m (including add-ons) and wasn't walking into the team or at the very least, knocking on the door. Again, to put things in perspective, that's more expensive than it cost to get Anelka, more expensive than Malouda, more expensive than Robben and only £5m cheaper than what it cost to get Juan Mata. I am really sorry to disappoint but this is nothing near youth integration.

We don't have the right youth? It will be interesting to know who does.

Nihilist:
I'm a big fan of your general thought process, and even though I tend to disagree with your recent opinions, It is still patently obvious that your statements are the logical conclusions of a rational approach to the whatever the subject matter is.

That being said, it's pretty obvious that the issue of youth will crop up again, and I will disagree with you...again

My main sticking point has always been your seeming preference to play youth for youth's sake. Bringing back Bamford and playing Traore more represents a shot in the dark, an uninformed gamble, an equivalent of turning up and hoping for a slice of goodluck.

I say this because one would expect that the basis of fast tracking a youth into the first team should be a recent history of performing to an acceptable level at a comparative level of competition...under a comparative amount of pressure. Neither of those boys actually have that. And quite honestly, there is nothing to suggest(at least to me)that they will ever be good enough

I also note that with your proposed acquisitions in midfield will push the likes of RLC and Pasalic further down the pecking order. Is this an indication that you are actually (maybe unconsciously) willing to eschew youth integration in the part of the pitch you believe needs the most reinforcement?

I expected you to disagree with me regarding Traore and Bamford

On the topic of Midfield. . . I don't know if you have noticed, when it comes to midfield, I have never asked for a youth player to take the lead role. Instead I have consistently called for a measured and cautious approach to integration. And that's because I recognise that in midfield, mistakes will easily be punished. This is why I (and not unconciously) have the boys down the pecking order.

Where my suggestions may resemble asking for youth taking the lead role in midfield, is when it comes to the topic of Ramires and Mikel. And my personal opinion of these two is that they offer no form of strenghtening and are infact, as at today, stumbling blocks in the development of possibly (who knows?) future great players.

The other part, is in instance where we have a dead rubber game in the CL (last season to be exact) and JM goes on and plays a full strength team. This is when you hear me screaming again.

So I am not mad. I wouldn't ask not to buy Koke and play Pasalic instead. What I would not have is attempting to play Ramires as No 10 (when Koke is injured) instead of Pasalic.


And the same applies in attack. I won't have Falcao in the team trying to revive his career and eraning £5m while at it when I could play Traore/Bamford instead. So as with midfield, I would not say no to Lewandowski, Diego, Remy, Bamford attack in that order; what I wouldn't have is Falcao featuring on that list, blocking the chances of a possible Crespo2015 in Bamford, earning £5m while at it and then phocking off into the distance after it all.

So I believe that my thoughts about youth integration are quite logical and not playing youth for the sake of it.

Nihilist:
I quite like the look of Yann Mvila. He has been a lighthouse of sorts in the sea of sewage on Wearside.

I also really really really like Wijnaldum as a central midfielder\B2B\10. I really like that dude

I was surprised at that move to be honest. Yann Mvila to Sunderland?
That's a fella who knows what to do with a football and can run with the ball at the same time.
Right now, Chelsea requires TWO players (Ramires and Mikel) to accomplish that same task.

raumdeuter:
^ Who are the calibers of strikers in Europe that Chelsea should look to buy realistically and can displace Costa?

And your midfield of Matic-Fabregas-Willian Hazard--Oscar who should be dropped and who are the realistic likely replacements

To be fair there are not many strikers. My earlier post was actually ONLY in reply to the Nihilist's one. This hardly reflects my position on what should happen regarding the striking department.

If you are asking me what we should do. I say keep Diego, get a cab to pick up Falcao and move Remy to No 2 striker. Then make Traore No 3 and let's see what he can do. Bring Bamford back from loan and encourage him with a few minutes. You cannot expect the best from Remy when all the time he should have been playing, JM was trying to revive Falcao's dead career. So let's see what Remy can do.

With midfield, this is where I will spend a few quid in the market. I will stick with my recommendations in the Summer. I would have sold Ramires for £20m, Mikel for £10m and Oscar for . . I don't know . . £25m? and I would have spent the money + added cash on Koke and Witsel and Mcarthy . Now this is what I still wish to do in terms of in-comings, except we cannot ever get that much money for those out-going fellas again. So I do not know if that factor influences my decisions.

I will keep Pasalic, RLC and Baker in midfield as junior players and give them minutes when we can. This settles for a midfield of Koke, Witsel, Matic, Mcarthy, Fabregas, Pasalic, RLC, Baker and we are covered. Everyone else stays. I consider Hazard, Pedro and Willian a part of the forward line.

I will re-tune the tactical set-up and move the ball through midfield with particular focus of transforming the team to a pass-oriented team rather than one that runs with the ball for too long. Our defensive cover in midfield is solid and fullbacks can still be Azpi and Rahman (deputised by Ake). And I believe we can still be very formidable.

I don't believe I have weakend the team in any area. Instead, I have strengthen and also provided for longevity.

But then again, I am not a manger. This is just my view and very much open to criticism.

Nihilist:
We'll probably end up with Charlie Austin...who for the record I believe can offer more that Chicharito though...

But just how bad is Remy though? One would imagine that any half-decent striker would have seized the opportunity to depose Diego Costa and make the Number 9 spot his own...

Also the board should think long and hard about who they sign in January

If number 1 isn't good enough, and number 2 isn't good enough, a player like Hernandez who has been a professional number 3 for much his career in Europe should not even be in the reckoning at all.

One would think so. However, I am in siddon look mode. Because unfortunately, the calibre of the striker the team requires (one capable of displacing Diego) is probably not available in January.

That said, without starting up another round of arguments, I wuold rather see us being linked with midfielders FIRST before attackers.


@Lacer.

Do you know the terms of Pasalic's loan move? Is it a year?

Hehehe. Nihilist don kolo finish.