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[quote author=A-40]Chai have these guys at Wigan ever had a decent striker before? Buncha oponus[/quote]Wigna's one of the poorest sides in the PL>
With the little money they have, they've done pretty well to survive relegation in the past few seasons.

Hazard off?

Cristalz: Perfect sight.
Wigan outplayed your guys in 1st half, that is after gifting y'all the first goal.
Now this half is plain boring. . .guess Wigan haven't got any fight left and Chelsea is still as mechanical as ever.

It will take a while for all to gel.
Don't be too much in a hurry to see the silky things.

Oscar's on baby!

FBS: They figured it's the only way to stop him. I see pena[i]rities[/i] and red cards. lol

It's a good thing. I rather will hope we lose the ball and be fouled in the process than losing it cheaply and having to chase back.
With more fouls come the opportunities to score more goals through set-pieces and penalties.

Decent half.

David Luiz needs to be careful with these comical defending.
Also Eden Hazard is on pole to being the most fouled player in the game.

If he plays most of our games, he will rank up there as one of the most fouled players in the PL.

I'm drooling at the heights of understanding that could emanate between Mata and Hazard.
Those two guys are on the same wave length.

Hazard 2 assists already! FPL points repete.
2-0.


Haters canut wash the mash agen!

ritchboy:

I'm completely bored so I've decided to watch the game, best link?

Follow our commentary.

Hazard one assist already! FPL points repete.
1-0

Roll on the season jor!

At what point in history was Pataki allowed the luxury of football punditry?

FBS: Ready to go...
Eden starts. Oscar on the bench. Ryan B also included.
Can we expect a brace of FT? I say YES!

Yes boss! I'm thinking more like 4 goals.

Same old stuff.

Hi Muki,

I deleted the code by accident. Could you please resend to me?
Thanks.

ritchboy: Hehehe, with Ibime lurking, you have to launch a preemptive strike by adding disclaimer in bold

Bros, in this harsh climate. You have to watch your e-back - always. Guys are not smiling at all.
Even Debosky smells all threads from the discomfort of his bedroom.

lalaboi: I think i may agree with majority of the points you made above

He might as well just leave. He won't get games with marin,oscar,hazard,mata in the team . . .

It's unfortunate. Take for example, Oscar already starts for Brazil's senior national team benching the likes of Kaka and Ganso.
If you have some time, read up the praises Menezes has for Oscar - how heralded the number 10 shirt is and how special they in Brazil see Oscar to allow him wear it.

If Oscar doesn't come to Chelsea and barring any long term injuries or other external mitigating factors, Oscar's on pole to go to Brazil 2014.

Yet I heard mid-week from someone who knows Neil Barnett saying that the club already decided that Oscar was bought for the future and that we should not expect him to get more than a handful of games. Can you imagine that? Even before the dude kicks a ball. So it already does not matter how he trains, what impact he has when he comes and perhaps what's his favourite position. In fact, there are strong chances that he could be used as a winger which could ruin the poor kid.

Apparently, the plan is to have Hulk/Ramires/Sturridge on the right, Marin/Malouda/Mata on the left and Hazard/Mata in the hole. If Hulk doesn't come, substitute Moses for Hulk. This already by a margin, wipes out Oscar's chances even though in my opinion, on the balance of technical ability, I rate Oscar slightly higher than Hazard and Mata - Whether that ability blossoms in the PL is another debate.

I am seriously hoping the story is not true and RDM will follow the ability and ignore the culture.


Even with all this, we are chasing Oliver Torres.

lalaboi: IF we are going to hype a dude up and call him "The future of Chelsea", if he isnt living up to standards at his very young age then he doesn't deserve it. All that trouble chelsea went through because of him, one would think he's the next big thing. Chamberlain, Walcott, Wilshere, Cleverly, Betrand, even terry at that age have been impressing. The fact that he might be a late developer does not mean we should stick with him nonetheless. Hence the reason i would like for him to go develop "late" somewhere else so we don't get comments like "Chelsea always destroy young player's careers" which we dont. It just that the gap between our top first team players and the reserves or academy is very wide.
kakuta being one of the few that get the chance (even if its not that much), don't show anything worthy with the appearances.

I don't want another Average joe be called the "future of Chelsea". The club deserves better than that. If any young player cant start showing signs of progression at 18,19,20, with the little appearance he's getting then he don't deserve anything. He hasn't even had any mad game for us for me to even vouch for him in public. So much was expected, little was shown, and i've ran out of support.

You can point to Walcott, Wishere and Chamberlain because you see them now.
What do you imagine these player would have been if they were at Chelsea?

Sturridge was here for months and never got a sniff. Went to Bolton and started banging goals in left, right and centre.
Do you think Sturridge improved on the very day he got to Bolton. No he didn't. It was the same Sturridge but he scored on his debut and the next game.

What's happened since then? RDM doesn't even fancy him. . . but we saw Sturrdige is why we know what he can do.
What if we didn't see him? You probably be asking what the hype is all about.

What you are excluding is Kakuta had a nasty leg break that put him out for over a year. (I hope I remember the length of injury correctly)
His return coincided with CA's second spell at Chelsea. You therefore cannot fault him coming in from an injury not to be all guns blazing.

Another point you are missing is Kakuta's favourite position. Has he been nurtured correctly?
Kakuta is not a winger but every single time he's come on for Chelsea, he's been drafted to the wings.
How in this world do you expect him to fulfill his potential? It's like playing McEachran in attack and then blaming him for not doing well.

Before you condemn a player, establish that the right conditions have been provided for the kid to blossom.
Just like what you've seen with likes of Wilshere, Walcott, Cleverley.

What was the gap between Viera and Fabregas? Yet Fabregas was brought in and played. Did he hit the ground running? That's what you expecting a 19 year-old kid to do.


I am not saying that every young player has to make it but if Kakuta has the slightest chance of doing so, why are we not providing an extended opportunity?
You want a player to be explosive in 20mins of game time? Who develops a young player like that?

lalaboi: During Ancelotti's era, he could have had more games, but didn't take his chance. . . He lost the last penalty to send us out vs blackburn in the carling cup. Even started some champions league games. Still didnt impress. Took a wrong choice of going on loan to a prem club fulham, Didn't impress enough to get enough games. Dunno about you but if i was manager and a player isnt showing me what i want to see during the "Little Time" he gets on the picth then he don't deserve anything.

Don't know how well he did at Gijon and when he came back to feature in pre-season, he didn't look quality atall. I know pre-season is about getting back to fitness but when you play 50 -60mins and dont do anything significant you don't deserve the hype.

He can still stay and play the u21 league but he shouldn't be playing at that level anymore, Its too comfortable for him.

Lala are you serious?
The Kakuta you are referring to during CA was 19.
Are you going to kill a 19 year-old because he didn't impress every single minute.
Are we killing JT because he missed a crucial penalty in the history of the club.

It's the job of the technical staff to assess the talent and assess the pressure and how the talent reacts to and relates with the pressure.
Some players are late developers and Kakuta may be one of them.

As for the loan, he didn't choose Fulham. The club sent him there.
I cannot find the quote now but I remember Mark Hughes saying he will not bench a player of his for the development of a player that belongs to another club. Especially when they had an established in the same role.

The same thing happened to Josh at Swansea and Patrick Van Aanholt on loan to Wigan when they had Maynor Figueroa.
Same thing has happened to Ulises Davilla who we sent on loan to a club who doesn't use a player in the hole.

The person at fault is the dude who never does the due diligence.


When Kakuta got the chance eventually, he was a big hit at FC Gijon, walking straight into the side scoring 5 goals and copping 2 assists in 14 appearances.

Yes he looked jaded in the pre-season but didn't Malouda, Meireles and Benayoun? So Kakuta 21, goes and Malouda 32 stays right?



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The problem is most of our managers in the past just wanted to win and therefore did not have the patience to persist with one youngster.
McEachran who has taken his opportunity in every single game he ever played for Chelsea is going on loan.
DiMatteo used Lukaku for almost 90mins in preseason in the first game and never called on Bamford even though he (Bamford) was on the bench.

After the first game, Bamford was sent back to London from the US without kicking a ball even though he traveled and trained with the team.
You don't treat youngsters like that.

They probably will not. In the case of Gokhan Tore, Chelsea inserted a 40% right on sell-on fee.

None at all for Fabio Borini and if all works out for the lad, we may see what he is all about in the PL this season.
A player who played in the reserves, scored more goals than anyone and allowed to walk away on a free.

Now Hutchinson is gone on loan to Forest and we are buying a 22 year old RB in Azpilicueta.
Unless he's pants, that means no more opportunities for Hutch, Billy Clifford and Todd Kane - 3 players knocking on the door of first team appearances.


Rumours are that McEachran is going to the championship on loan even though he's impressed every time he's played.
KDB on loan even though we are all aware of his capabilites. (Dude already has 2 assists for Bremen)

We bought Oscar, Hazard, Marin, all who are between 20 and 23. If they hit their mark, they aren't going anywhere soon.
What's the future for the likes of Lucas Piazon, John Swift, Lewis Baker?

Lukaku is on loan and we are probably going to shell out #40m on Cavani and on perhaps #100k per week. Cavani is 25. He still has 5 years in him.
Yet we have the likes of Sturridge who can do a job and then the younger ones - Islam Feruz who before joining Chelsea had already started games for Celtic and Patrick Bamford who was on the brink on starting for Forest.


When are they going to have the opportunities?


We should just pack up the academy and stop wasting money.

lalaboi: I disagree with Kakuta being a waste at chelsea. It's not anyone at chelsea's fault that he failed to live up to expectation despite having enough chances within and outside the club. He has not impressed atall!! shikena. He can eff right off.

He failed to live up to expectation? Having enough chances?
Are you serious Lala?

How many starts do you remember Kakuta having in a Chelsea shirt?
How many times in the past have you seen us like 3 nil up and we bring in Kakuta?

Infact, AVB was the very first manager who dared to field kids all through in the Carling Cup. Every other manager just played a full squad.

coogar: waste of talent @ chelsea!

Absolute spot on statement.

Kakuta has stated he is leaving.

Hmmmm! I like that. I can get used to history repeating itself.

Pataki: Do you really think Hazard fits into the game style of Chelsea (while also noting that Chelsea has no definitive play style though)?

Hazard's only been here for 5 mins.
Although I do agree with you that Chelsea, for now, has no game style.

Well done City.

Pataki: Now you can see why he was brought in. Well thought out by RDM though.

He brought Bertrand in to score a goal?
Maybe I am reading your response wrongly.

coogar: so thats your definition of clearance? he should be toeing that ball to row z! if he wasn't there to make the pass to yaya, there wouldn't have been any goal threat. he laid it on the plate for toure!

I didn't say the clearance was good. I said it was the best he could do in the situation.
If Ashley had not switched off and returned, Yaya may have been put off taking a shot as Ashley's presence would have covered the spot.

Why are we making this change by the way?
Hazard for Bertrand?

It's over now.
3-1

coogar: john terry is finished! he typically laid it on the plate for toure....the best assist yaya toure has gotten in his career!

I didn't think there was much JT could have done. He had to clear the initial threat.
I blame Ashley Cole for taking an age to return after an attempt to block the earlier cross from the right.

They've scored o! Mountain to climb unless we park the bus.

Ivanovic is a clown.
I just hope City get a red too.

Savic who was walking a tight line is now subbed.