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Are Spain not creative. . . yes or no?
How come with all their creativity, they were unable to break them down?

Yes Spain are creative and they were unable to break USA down after they (USA) went a goal up. But you missing the point. The point is not that creativity cannot be stifled, the point is creativity always prevails. You cannot focus all your arguments on a single event and milk it to the last just so you can prove a point.

So what happened to the same USA when they met Brazil? They used same tactics. Went two up and tried to sit back. . but Brazil's creativity pushed them off the park.
Spain dominated the Euros because of creativity and they are going to do the same at the world because of creativity. It may be late but creativity always wins.

You knew all this, and you were willing to put £200 on the line?. . . . what made you take such risk?. . . faith in the players or faith in Ancelotti?
Since you lack faith in the players, then WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF YOUR FAITH??
Or are you just now seeing structural weaknesses I've been telling you about since December?

Still missing the point. The fact that I am willing to bet £200 on this is not because of a single event at Old Trafford but what could happen before and after Old Trafford. Also potential unfortunate events that could befall ManU and Arsenal themselves.

I have faith in Ancellotti and I have faith in the players. However I only have faith in their (the players) maximum output which I think is good enough to roll past Blackburn and Arsenal. . .   But I want more. I want us to dominate Europe playing crisp, fast flowing, aggressive (when needed), eye catching football that makes viewers catch their breath and we just can't do it with this old and unintuitive crop of players. It's a simple logic.

Yes there is a structural weakness except you are misplacing your priorities. The structure is not the formation. You cannot achieve from Lampard and Ballack at 32 and 34 respectively what you would have achieved when they were 28. If you think that is not structurally deficient enough, I don't know what to say. These guys are on their last legs and on a £130,000 each. personally I do not see why they earn that much no matter how hard I try.

Nope, I have long refuted that we are playing a traditional 4-3-3. . . wasnt it during the Arsenal match that I asked you why is Malouda not tracking Sagna?. . . . it was then I realised that this is a pseudo-diamond masquerading as a 4-3-3. . .
Whilst I am happy that at least some width has returned in one form or the other, the defensive deficiencies I have been hammering about the diamond (and have continued to hammer after the Arsenal game) about Mikel, Terry and Carvalho being exposed to counterattack remain.
There is no doubt, this is not a 4-3-3 as we know it. Hence I have continued to predict doom for this team. If we were playing a 4-3-3 as I know it (as GH, AG and JM played it), then I would definitely back Chelsea to win the league!
In the 4-3-3 that Chelsea have traditionally played, we would have Anelka tracking the left-back and Malouda tracking the right-back. . . with Lampard free to break from midfield.
In this scenario, we have Lampard tracking the leftback and Ballack tracking the right-back.

No you have not. . and I kept telling you over and over that at least we are playing a 4-3-3 now. You then went ahead to say it was an advancing full back problem. You have moved the problem from one place to another time after time.

Secondly. . . Lampard and Ballack are tracking full backs because  we are defending. Lampard cannot break free when we are defending. you are manufacturing problem that are non existent.

Thirdly. You have made us believe this far that Inter had no holes behind because they were half-pressing; yet you are telling us here that Lamps and Ballack were chasing full backs was why they didn't dominate. How can they be chasing full backs when the full backs were in their own half. ? What a load of dust. You see what I mean by trying to blame the manager at any cost. You guys think you are analytical but this nothing but crap!

There's nothing like a "traditional 4-3-3" in defence. The fact that we are playing a 4-3-3 doesn't mean we should keep the same shape when we are defending. Can they be chasing full backs when we are going forwards? What sh.it is this? What then do they do when they get the ball. when they are not chasing full backs.? This garbage. The fact that we are playing a 4-3-3 does not mean Malouda and Anelka should track the full backs. ?There is no rule book that says the wide men should hold the full backs when backing up.

Rubbish. . . the reason they are not dominating the centre is that they spend too long chasing fullbacks.
Did Cambiasso contribute anything offensively yesterday? How about Motta?
No - the reason is Cambiasso was detailed to track Zhirkov, whilst Motta was detailed to track Ivanovic (on the occasion he went forward)
So why do you expect Lamps and Ballack to do any different knowing they are fulfilling the same tactical function as Cambiasso and Motta were doing?

I wonder where this rubbish comes from. When have we ever dominated except against Wolves et al? We have never been a dominating side. We bully our way to victory. We rely on power and pace. Why are you suddenly making it seem like this is a new problem. Have you forgotten the boring boring Chelsea? Was that because we were dominating? At least lampard and Ballack were not chasing full backs during JM's era. Neither were they during Avram Grant; yet a Chelsea fan was falling asleep on camera at the game against Wigan. How dominating we were!

During Hiddink, we spent 170mins of a two legged tie in our own half against Barcelona; were Lamaprd and Ballack chasing full backs then? Why didn't they take the game by the scruff of the neck and dominate like Ineista and Xavi did. .? It's because they can't. They never did and they never will. Forget all this chasing full backs shitzo . . You are actually making these guys look more special than they really are. . and until you remove you Frank glasses. . you will not see past where you stand.

I am waiting for you to tell me 3 things:
How come Lampard was a central part of the Scolari team that dominated possession exclusively (even against Arsenal)?
Is Seydou Keita a better passer than Lampard? How come he fulfills the same role as Lampard for Barca, yet Barca continue to play uber-possession football.
Which Man Utd midfielder does these fancy ninny things? Or is Man Utd not a winning team?

Answers.

1. because we were playing West Brom and Portsmouth. Where was he when we played Liverpool, ManU and they absolutely destroyed us? Bracelona roll over the the big and small teams in Spain and they go to Europe and replicate. Ok. Say the same for us.

2. Keita is a better all round footballer than Lampard. End of! You must know the football philosophy of Pep. Technique is key. . . and Techinique, Kieta has shed loads. You don't have to have world footballers of the year and 20-goals a season dudes in your team to play good football. Our mates in North London show us everyday. Even Diaby locks the ball to his feet, truns around and finds a player. ~Then moves in swiftly for a return pass. And he probably will never be regarded as a world great in his career. And you can say the same for Carrick.

3. When I say creative, it doesn't always mean fancy. Even players that don't matter can dominate a match for long. You don't have to be scoring like hell to have Technique. No single player in the Chelsea midfield has the technique Carrick has. . . Simple. . No player in the whole of Chelsea first team has the technique of Rooney's. Yet you ask why they dominate. If you can't see this things, you will never understand what I am saying. Never.

dyabman:
@Nateevs

Come out of your Disgusting shell , You want to blame Lampard , yes or no? all this lampard cant do this cant do that , i'm sick and tired of 'em. . . Tell us a better player that will fill his shoes for us presently without pressure.?

You guys are the ones that should take your Lampard glasses off. Bloody scared fellas. . . It's about someone who can fill his shoes.
Lampard will be 32 by June 29th and he is the fulcrum upon which our midfield see-saws.

There is no player in sight even in 2 years remotely close to deputising let alone taking over from him.
There's no pressure, no competition, no variation. No one to come off the bench replace him and make everyone go that's the new "so so so" . . . What's even worse, his co-midfield player Micheal Ballack will be 34 in September.

We also have a dude that can come off the bench and play, his name is Juliano Belletti, he'll be 34 on June 20th . . . .

Name me one team in Europe that dominates it's league and Europe that have such a very "dynamic" midfield. And you are talking about filling his shoes. Why don't we just retire that position for Lampard for life. If there's no one that can fill his shoes, how come Chelsea have not won everything alive?

You guys worship JM and awe at Alex's achievements. One of their biggest secrets is that they never think no one can fill anyone's great shoes. They never dwell on one thing for too long. They move on.
According to Ibime, because Lampard provides sure 20 goals a season he should not be moved on.


Our midfield is old. Simple as!

Change it or self-destruct.

Yes it is. . . . the tie was already set-up from the first leg. . . . it was easy for JM to stymie our midfield. . . .this is what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket. . . .

It was easy for him stifle our midfield because we have ordinary players in midfield. It is not easy for you to man mark Ronaldo, Messi, Ribery, Kaka, Robben. Jose found it easy because it was just that. . . easy. Infact, I honestly think Maicon would have had a full day if he had Stock or Kakuta against him. That's how ineffective we were.

USA 2: 0 Spain in the Confederations cup if you wanna know how this thing usually plays. . . . once USA scored the first goal, they camped in their half and just picked Spain off on the counterattack. . . .you cant accuse Spain of lacking creativity, they were just stymied by the perfect set-up.

The keyword here was "once USA scored the first goal" Before then nko? You cannot use parts of events that suit you to back yourself up.
The keyword here was "once Chelsea had not scored" . . . They had no other choice. Just like USA before they scored.
Inter had all day. There were not going to come out.

What are we talk about? Is this not the same manager that sat back against Arsenal home and away and hit them on the break. ?

I am expecting the same scenario as happened against Inter to play out against Manure at Old Trafford. . . .we will be stifled by Park, Fletcher and Carrick. . . then they will pick open our highline of defence easy as pie. . . . . . . . I dont want you coming here to tell us stories about the players not being able to pass the ball. . . . just ready my £200 to make good on our bet!  Grin

They will do it with Park, Fletcher and Carrick who are not world-renowned man markers. Yes they will. but what does that tell you about those they are marking.
I doubt Park can mark out Ronaldo or Robben. And yes I will be back here to say the same thing because that's what it is.
You should be the one who budgets for £200 in May. . 

Lampards tactical role is exactly the same as the LCM in a diamond, whilst Ballacks is the same as an RCM in a diamond.
This is Christmas-tree formation (not a 4-5-1). . . . You would have noticed Lamps tracking Maicon and Ballack tracking Zanetti. . . . . Malouda and Anelka were not detailed to the fullbacks.
                                    Drogba

                          Malouda         Anelka

          <-------Lampard                  Ballack---------->

                                      Mikel
This is our formation. . . . it is a diamond. . . . Anelka and Malouda now form a two-pronged tip of the diamond, sometimes drifting wide, but having no tactical mandate to track the fullback.
It is pertinent to note that once Ballack came off yesterday, Zanetti was released from the left-back position. . . . Joe Cole could not deal with him. . . . why so, if we are playing a genuine 4-5-1/4-3-3?
Lampard and Ballack are overworked in the current set-up. . . . you cannot expect them to serve as workhorses and also prompt the attacks.
Against Arsenal, you said yourself that Malouda and Anelka are not detailed to track Clichy and Sagna.
So how in any sense can you call this a genuine 4-5-1/4-3-3?
I have told you this Christmas tree/pseudo-diamond only works against the likes of Sunderland.

You are only talking about the formation when tracking backing. The team was in a proper 4-3-3 on the offensive. With Malouda and Zhirkov interchanging time after time.
Don't try to make us feel like you are running a commentary of a match we can't watch. We all saw it was a 4-3-3.
Now you are trying to run for cover because you put your neck on the line saying we never go wrong in a 4-3-3.
Well I have news. It was a 4-3-3 and we went wrong.

Against Arsenal you were refuting profusely that it was a  4-3-3. . because it worked. Now you disclaim because it didn't work. Stay somewhere bro.
The reason why we fly against Sunderland is because Henderson and Reid et al will be scared of Lampard. Not because he is extra spectacular.

Lampard and Ballack are not over-worked because of the formation, they are over-worked because they are 31 and 32 respectively and they 90mins about twice every week. And if they don't play, that's it. No other club in the premiership does that.

Until these change we will continue to change managers while Lampard, Drogba, Terry and Ballack are the nucleus of the team 36.

I am going to do a strange one on this and back Ibime. Although not to the extent of calling Drog the best crosser. but boy can he deliver a ball.
Although only near the box, Drogba delivers great crosses.




Ibime I have been away I am back to address your points.

FBS:
@ Nateevs,
How can you say you are not blaming the players? Are you praising them? Come off it mate.
You said this before GH came that the players are old, they should be sold etc and that it was not Scolaris fault. . the same players that went on to dazzle afterwards?
Even DD was resurrected! Malouda was on TOP of his game.
How do you explain all these?

Have you said something I didn't say before? I also said siddon approach look was a negative approach. Only Ibime in his "typical" wisdom   felt otherwise.
Whose fault? Carlo's fault. You just said it. And you say everyone is blaming Carlo except you.
I fail to see your point.

Transfer policy had no bearing on yesterday's game. Even Spurs could have won that match  . No I'm not taking it too far. That match was our to win with the right approach. I wouldn't say they (Inter) were spectacular. They simply played to instruction. End of. . .

Ok. Lets agree to disagree. Until we buy new players, we should forget about any trophy for decades to come.
Is that what you are saying?

First and foremostly. If we don't buy players for a decade we WILL not win any trophies.
Which club do you think has done otherwise. ? Man U won the league and shed £65m on Anderson, Nani and Hargreaves.
Won the League and CL and shed £30m on Berba. Won the league again and signed Valencia.
You thin it is beans. . . Y'all are sitting here leaving on past glory . . JM did this with the same team. . Hiddink did that with the same team.

You thin ManU don't know how to do things with the same team? . . but they constantly refresh. . Same 'ol Same 'ol in Chelsea and you want different results.
It's not coming anytime soon people!




If Carllotti was employed at the time Gus came in . . . he would have had the same effect.
Just like we did at the beginning this season. .  and you all would have been calling him the messiah.

Every new manager brings fresh air. New idea, new methods. . . and the first run of games will be explosive.
You saw it at the beginning of this season, even Lampard and Drogba were doing flicks with Deco.

Gus is a fantastic manager but even he could not phantom a way past Barca except sit all eleven players in front of the goal for 90mins. . Is that they type of football you want forever? Why didn't we play? If we didn't have Ovrebo to blame that day, you lot would have blamed Gus for being too negative . . .

But I clearly remember the stands I took that day even though I did blame the ref. . . We could not match Barca. . If we went out to play they would have murdered us.
We have to change this mentality and we have to change the players. . . Even under Gus. .

So what is different now.

BlueDiva:
Nateevs,

You're not exactly sure he didn't have the money.
If he'd told RA, i need players A and B to improve my chances of winning the EPL and UCL, i doubt CA will refuse.
We're just voicing out our frustrations.
The day we start seeing failure as 'one of those things', then we're as worthless as Arsenal fans.

Did you not read quotes from his autobiography where he said he Roman on a boat that for Chelsea to dominate Europe, the football mentality has to change.
And that we need better passers of the ball and he said he told Roman to buy Alonso, Ribery and Aguero . .
I will find a link.

So what happened 6 months later? He decided to settle with Belletti. . ?
Come on . . have a bigger heart people. Don't just act like Chelsea fans that jumped on the JM wagon.

Voice out your frustrations . . but always think about what's best for the club first.

BlueDiva:
He had the money to buy didn't he?
He rather boasted that he had all he needed at his disposal.
He even promised to dance unclothed if he went back on his words.

Sorry sir, the excuse won't hold.
Use what you have to churn out results.

Really. . . You are very sure that he had the money to buy and he didn't.
If Roman told Carllotti, "Hey dude there's no money for transfer"
Do you really think he will come out and say Roman has said there's no money?

It's called PR baby. . . Roman wants to be seen and being prudent rather being broke.
A man who spends £100 for 3 straight seasons doesn't spend anymore . . what you think that means?

There's no manager on earth who refuses money to spend on new players. . None. (Well except Wenger).
And even Wenger will attempt a mass clear out of players over 28. We have 7 of them.


Must you guys do this every year?

Dude you missed the plot right from the first leg - if you thought huffing and puffing without scoring a goal was proof of anything you were clearly wrong. I told you as much but you didn't agree - the problem didn't emerge yesterday, it culminated yesterday.

Dude you keep referring to my post. I did not have time to reply you.
If you search my posts for what I said after the Inter match you will not keep trying to find holes in my posts.
The first leg was key. and we didn't take the opportunities when we could have scored.

When Inter is on the front foot, they have less defending to worry about, and Chelski has less time on the ball. Like I so clearly mentioned to you before the game, players like Malouda need 10 crosses or more to cause damage - without being on the ball, how can you score goals? By lumping long balls to DD? No chance.

Pressing influences possession - without the latter, you can't do much.

Pressing does only half the job fella.
When you press, and win possession you still have to pass the ball to get to the opposition half.
If you have players that can't pass the ball well, you will lose possession again. . . which makes half pressing useless.
And it's only a matter of time, a slight moment of loss of concentration and you concede.

And the reason you couldn't score was because your set up didn't allow you to dominate possession the way you did in the San Siro.

You are talking about two different set-up. . Inter had to win at Milan hence the holes in their back line.
At SB they didn't. If they didn't concede, they'll go through. all they had to do was sit back and stifle the opponent.
There's no way the two matches could have produced the same events.

Now that's where you need people who can do something out of the ordinary.
A player who needs two people to be on him when he has the ball. When you have two of those, you will always find a goal.

Being lethargic offensively is no excuse for not even creating something - the lack of possession, shots on goal, anything to threaten Inter was the main flaw. You don't always need to be skillful - if you have the ball long enough you can create chances and you failed to do that.

And how do you propose to hold the ball long enough without being skilful.
Maybe you should tell us a team that holds the ball for long and happen not to be skilful.
For how long do you think Drogba can hold the ball without losing possession. .? How about Anelka?


Skilful players don't have to be steady to pass. Skilful players conveniently pass with both feet.
Skilful players pass the ball even when under pressure. They know how to run into space and they don't have to be superstars to make an effect.
It's amazing what you see Eboue do. . He is by no means a great footballer but he passes well . .

Why don't you throw Lampard and Drogba into the arsenal team and see how that improves your possession.

@FBS


You guys don't get the gist. I am not blaming the players.
I said it here yesterday that it will be a big mistake if Carllotti employed the siddon look approach.
And he did. . and that was a big mistake . . Carllotti's fault.

I cannot blame Lampard for not making passes like Sneijder. I cannot blame Drogba for a poor first touch.
I can't blame Malouda for being one dimensional. Neither can I blame Kalou for being unproductive.  
That's the best they can do.
But something brought them all in one place and that is what I am attacking - The transfer policy and this is the bigger picture.


You others on the other hand come up with so much garbage on this issue. And I am going to trash them one by one.

Before Jose we didn't complain like this. He brought the winning mentality. . . but Jose did not do the job with a Hoe and an Axe.
Jose spent £240m on brand new players. Carllotti has spent £24m.
Jose did not have a single player above the age of 27 . . . except Makalele and Crespo - almost everyone of them now can touch 30 with their finger tips.


Now you ask when the last time Carlo made a healthy sub . . . In case you didn't know, the subs on the bench were Kalou, Joe, Sturridge. That's it. . .
Are you actually telling me that JM can make a healthy sub with these. ? This is where I say you guys employ the blame culture.

At a point in time JM had SWP, Robben, Duff, Gudjohsen, Drogba, Crespo, Joe Cole, Kezman all fighting for 3 spots in his team. Is this the reason why you think Carllotti doesn't make a healthy sub. . . ?


Can we please keep things in perspective guys. This is why I say you guys eliminate the bigger picture and jump on the Abramhovic bandwagon "Sack the Manager"

Until y'all step away from all that crap. . . You will never see the bigger picture.


You blamed Carllotti for playing Essien in the carling cup and getting him injured. How can you do that.?

@Ibime,

Let's just say what you are saying is correct for once. You are however talking about only one side of the game.
If Carllotti employed half pressing like you suggest, we would still have needed a goal at least to go through.

We did not look like scoring half a goal. Is that because were not half pressing. No creativity, no flair, no inventiveness and I will like you to point out to me where Cesar had an against-all-odds save to make. Is that all because of not employing half-pressing. ? No it is not.


I have told you time and time again. You don't lose games by not conceding, you do so by scoring.
We did not lose the game yesterday because we kept a high line of defence, we lost because we could not even find the anything close to a shot on goal.

All that unadaptable thingy you are yarning is reh reh reh.
I will never agree with you until you tell me one thing Carlotti employs offensively that is wrong or bad.
You blamed the diamond, he ditched that and went for the beloved 4-3-3. Same results.

Face the truth, we are very poor and lethargic offensively and half-pressing can't solve that.
and until we change our transfer policy and re-build on a fresh slate, we will have more managers than trophies.

@FBS.

This is the heights of the "blame the manager culture" we have inherited at Chelsea.
Carlo played 12 other players in the Carling Cup . . are you going to blame for that too. ?
Is the Carling Cup a tournament where a player must pick up an injury. .

When a manager does not win a trophy at Chelsea you blame him. . .
When he tries to win something by fielding his best players you blame him. . .

The way we operate in this side of town is shocking. Every manager that sits on that chair doesn't even have the time to do anything.
He must hit it from the start . . No time to experiment. Not even time to get used to the league.
No time to get used to his players. Not time for anything . . Trophies, trophies!

When a manager knows he is under pressure from the start, he uses his best players in every competition because he is trying to impress the fans.
He makes radical changes to salvage a game. He rushes things. . Kids are the last thing on his mind because he is trying to win.
Experimenting comes second.

If winning was not more important than re-building, we would have seen Kakuta, Matic, Borini, DiSanto, Stoch, Bruma all get decent amount of minutes this season. This stirs competition and creates a steady flow of unending talent. The big boys will sit up.
We have more young players on loan than we have in the senior team all because of this blame culture.
Mind you more than half of our young players are in their last year of contracts. . These kids want a steady career and not being shipped from one club to another all in the name of playing for Chelsea some day.

Wrong approach. Wrong mentality.

And just so you know, Essien was fine and match fit in January. He got injured in the ACN. . . Should we blame Carllotti for that also. ?

Ok. . For once Can we stop the blaming the ref thing.
WE did not create a single chance apart froma ballack chance that strayed wide early in the game.

That was it. . If a game can't be muscled out, we can play football.
When we out-pass Stoke, Bolton et al, it really doesn't mean we can pass. It just means they were afraid to take the game us.

And when some of them do take the game to us, we struggle. It's not about formation and it's not about tactics. . .
I have been saying this for 3 seasons now and thank God some people are beginning to see it from my angle. . .

Change the mentality, change the transfer policy. ditch this style and switch.

Power play does sh.it . . . Wins nothing. At least we were playing a 4-3-3 yesterday. . If not some of us would have been crying or the head of Carllotti now.
We have to ditch this style.

Sell Lampard, Ballack, Essien, Joe, Carvalho, Malouda, Drogba. . . girgiri, can't pass, no flair, no creativity, no invention, mono-dimensional, easy-to-predict players and switch to a blend of strength, pace and a lot of flair.

Power play can only take you so far, it takes a moment of creativity and brilliance to win something big.  
     
Until we do that we will keep going in a circle.
Now watch the "Don't blame the players rant begin again"

jalether:
The million dollar question is do we have the players capable of passing inter to death?

This is the exact question I have asked season after season.
WE will continue to fire managers but until we address the real problem nothing's gon' change.

mama gee? WTF?

BlueDiva:
Brother nateevs, faith doesn't exist in footie.

Oh come on drop that.

FBS:
Nateevs, its hard to understand why any Chelsea fan would have rooted for JM tonight but I want to just assume that it is simply because JM remains our best manager till date. His sack was very hard for some fans to take.

Take it or leave it, this man clearly put us on the "map" and until we win something strong, I'm afraid, it will stay this way for a long time.

It's back to the drawing board.

It probably hurts me more that JM left more than all these losers.
But it hurts me for Chelsea, not for Jose.

This guy probably doesn't even think about us. Everything maybe TV gimmicks.
Why should we lose sleep over what went down 3 seasons ago. ?
How can you call yourself a fan of the club and hoping the opposition wins because he was the most successful manager. . ?

Where they hoping Zola won on Saturday? . . . Do these losers have a clue what Zola did for us?
I cannot understand how they feel no matter how many times over they try to explain . .

It's a flipping disgrace.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=413139.msg5707518#msg5707518 date=1268776865]Nateevs, don't sweat the results.
Chelsea did all they could but Inter were just a tad sharper and they prolly wanted it more.
Majority of the Chelsea players did not turn up. I cannot blame Carlotti's tactics. . . . .Lampard-Ballack-Mikel lacked invention and i saw no creativity throughout the 90 from your midfield.[/quote]I have not seen the creativity for 3 seasons.
I keep saying it. It will cost us when it matters most.
It is not enough to rack up beautiful stats against small teams.

Just look at Sneijder tonight, (a player I love to death anyway) created opportunities out of nothing that coulda brought 3 goals.
Players that deliver when it matters most.

I laugh aloud when I hear some say we have the best midfield in the world. It's a joke.

Kx:
i ve always said that am a chelsea fan but my kind of "fanship" is chelsea morihno
tonite u needed to see me a chelsea fan rooting for morinho.
Jose is just too good.
he said he was home and he proved it.
give honor to whom honor is due

Can you imagine these fellas. . .
Who are these jokers anyway?

I am very ashamed to be identified with losers like this. .
Aw things like this pop up in anyone head is beyond my imagination.

The sort of low level people that keep bring disrepute to Chelsea.
F. . ucking disgraceful!

dayokanu:
This are the type of fans Chelsea have. Happy cos Jose won.

I mean can you believe it. . . It is an absolute disgrace.
How can any part of you be happy just so you can say "I told you so" . . ?

debosky:
Frustration.  

Someone should call Nateevs and make sure he is ok.  

You just want me to quote your post and reply. . .
Alright here I am . . . Say what you have to say.

OMO IBO:
Part of me is actually happy this happened.

Abrahamovic must be eating his heart out.

How can part of you be happy? This is a flipping disgrace.
Can we ever win anything without Jose?


I will continue to say it. . Until we change our transfer policy, we will continue to have more managers than trophies.
It's simple. Utd will murder Inter.

Absolute crap. . .
We can't put the ball on the ground. . No one can dribble.
No one is a threat,  everything is mechanical . .

Where's Lampard . . supposedly the great passer of the ball?
At least some final minute momentum to show desire. .
Ship this load out and begin rebuilding.

debosky:
Lateef. . . .still waiting for your two early goals.  

Sharrap you doubting shrimp. . . .you were gunning for Chelski a few hours ago.

I did not reply your post.
It's amazing you can't read well.
I did not say we WILL get 2 early goals. .

I was hoping we go ballistic from the start and grab a goal.
As we start lukewarm-ish we couldn't . .

Jose will be a fool to throw this away.

I knew it was a dangerous to go cautious. .
4-4-2 from the start and we coulda gotten an early goal . .  

Becos once they score, we have to score 2.

It's over!

Now I don't even understand  wetin we dey play.
Malouda to left back. . Kalou on.

Malouda is running dangerous

Dayo. . . .

What do you say about the sub then. . Am I still talking rubbish?

Malouda's been pretty decent.

2nd Half.

dayokanu:
Joe wetin? If na Joke make you stop am. Shey this game resemble Shell cup or monkey post for your eyes?

No wonder you are not a coach

Goat!
You know I am one of Joey's open critics on here. Joe has a place in this game.